Brahmin heads Citigroup

Vikram Pandit, a vedic brahmin has become the head of Citigroup the world’s largest financial services conglomerate. We the dalits have known how Jews and Brahmins are controlling the world economy. This incident confirms it once again. The wily Brahmins control the banking system along with their Jewish cousins so that they can squeeze the blood and toil of Dalits.  The Jews and Brahmins are in a big conspiracy to control the world. 90 % of america is controlled by them. The Christians in america should clearly take note of this and throw these evil people out. Take control of the Banking system first and thow these papans out. Otherwise the christian fate will also become like the fate of Dalits in India.

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  1. Anil sharma said

    It is very very nonsense. In India you people (dalits) and brahmins are living together keep that in mind. you( a section of dalit community endorsed by foreign money) wants to dismantle the indian intelligence.

    It is very very absurd that brahmins are against to the dalits. It is outdated and obselate comments.

    My uncle working as under Dalit business man and expanded the business from 10lakhs to a 3 crore.If this is the case how can you say stupid statements.

    Learn the knowledge and admire the knowledge.Do not admire the foreign church funds.

  2. V. Madhavan said

    This is the biggest piece of crap I’ve read. Vikram Pandit got the job through merit. I live in the US and nobody in this country cares or can even tell who is a Brahmin or not. In fact, most people think all Indians are closer to African Americans than Whites.

    Stop spreading stupid propaganda. It only makes us Indians look like idiots.

  3. Suprith Rao said

    hi its so funny to read the entire conversation which exalrates that Brahmins ruined Dalits.Well i being a brahmin i agree that you were ruined in the past.
    but what happend to you folks now.now you people are well educated than any Brahmin,you have reservations and fee concessions and you much more privilages than any brahmin in this world(not only india).but its now your time to prove yourselves that you stand high in education,IT etc as IT doesnt see you by your cast.it looks by ur tallent.

    Can you all please stop this nonsense by making these comments on brahmins.
    I would barely put you some questions if you think deeply.

    If you had a better level of understanding in upanishads and vedas,any body would not have commented on hinduism.It enproves that you are totally immatured.Try to challange the ppl around you (brahmins)in education and mannerism and in all facts of life,than cripping on hindus.

    I underwent a blog which quoted IT as “Stupid Industry”..Look at the level of understanding you have in your mind..Shame.!

    I am open in thoughts..and i would urge all dalits as you all crip brahmins..thats fine..try to overcome brahmins in IT sector,education sector,corporate sector..atleast by this competition let our country has good citizens.

    Thanks,
    Suprith Rao
    Houston,TX

  4. happyhindu said

    omg…can u guys not be sued for naming someone and writing something on the open domain like this….

  5. John said

    Wake up you dumb ass, Brahmin priests in my town are poor while your dalit friends are millioniares getting drunk of their ass.

  6. Dilip C said

    I believe that because of such nonsensical beliefs and hatred of the Brahmin community many have left India. We have to remember that such views are oudated and have no place in a modern democracy. Follow the principles laide down in Australia’s policy of multiculturalism.

  7. C,L.CHUMBER said

    BRAHMINS MUST LEAD INDIA TO DYNAMITE VARNA/CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!
    Dear Viewers,
    I wish to discuss some following points raised by gentlemen :-
    !.ANIL SHARMA said(December 16, 2007 @ 12:53 pm ),”It is very very absurd that brahmins are against to the dalits. It is outdated and obselate comments.”
    Are brahmins not against constitutional reservation for SCs/ STs/ OBCs ?. A brahmin PM MR.P.V.Narsimha Rao opened the gates of globelisation to benefit the brahmins.A brahmin PM AB Vajpayee tried his best to scrap the present constitution to scrap reservation but in vain.
    .2. V. MADHVAN said(December 22, 2007 @ 9:30 pm),” Stop spreading stupid propaganda. It only makes us Indians look like idiots.”
    The Brahmin scriptures spread stupid propaganda against non Brahmins especially SCs/STs/OBCs.The GITA says that women of all varnas,vaish and shudra varnas are inauspicious .The Rigveda says that the shudra varna ( SCs/STs/OBCs) are born out of Brahma`s feet.The Manu-simirty of brahmins instigates to rape women of all non brahmins.Madhav raped pious Varinda .Does it not make us Indians look like idiots ?
    3.SUPRITH RAO said (January 29, 2008 @ 1:07 pm ) ,”If you had a better level of understanding in upanishads and vedas,any body would not have commented on hinduism.It enproves that you are totally immatured .”
    The vedas and upnishads are the real root cause of Indian problems.That is why India is not word power.The vedas divided human beings in four graded and degraded varnas.
    4.HAPPY HINDU said (March 9, 2008 @ 5:48 pm) ,”can u guys not be sued for naming someone and writing something on the open domain like this….”
    First of all , we should sue the followers of rapists,racists and fascists so called Gods !
    5.JOHN said (April 13, 2008 @ 4:40 am) ,”Wake up you dumb ass, Brahmin priests in my town are poor while your dalit friends are millioniares getting drunk of their ass.”
    Adi-Guru Kabir who was deadly against the misdeeds of the Brahmin varna said in his Adi-Guruvani :-
    AN ASS` S BETTER THAN A BRAHMIN , A DOG IS BETTER THAN ALIEN GOD:
    AWAKENING A SLEEPING TOWN ,MUCH BETTER PROVES A CROWING COCK .
    (REF.KABIR BY DR.MOHAN SINGH KARKI,M/S MOTILAL BANARSIDASS,DELHI-7)
    6.DILIP C said (June 27, 2008 @ 1:37 am) ,”I believe that because of such nonsensical beliefs and hatred of the Brahmin community many have left
    India..”
    The dalits are also leaving the rural India to live in the slums of urban India ! The brahmins left India for better prospectus ! In ancient times,they migrated from central Asia to India for better prospectus.The tiny Brahmin community had Pt.J.L.Nehru ,Pandtani Indira Gandhi,Her son Rajiv Gandhi.Pt.P.V.Narsimha Rao,Pt.A.B. Vajpayee and now Pt.Nehru`s grand daughter-in-law Sonia Gandhi`s indirect rule over India as PMs.No other community had so many PMs in India.In India many communities have not even single MP !
    The liberal and rational Brahmins must dynamite the varna/caste system to make India word power.

  8. C,L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ ” WORLD POWER” INSTEAD OF ” WORD POWER” LAST LINE 5 JULY.

  9. Sridhar said

    Dear Indians,
    I now see my beloved people and my beloved motherland being eaten away by social strife. I, being a brahmin, myself feel the elevation of OBC’s and SC/ST castes to a higher-level in the society. The caste system was just a division of labour. But, the evil misinterpreters of the middle-ages and during the reign of the British have modified them to their own selfish purpose. Right now, there’s no meaning in brooding over spilt milk. Let the rich family man in India adopt a poor man’s family. Let him give the education to the kids. Then, our country will grow. Let peace be restored in my motherland. Let there be a nation of the Maurya period.

  10. C,L.CHUMBER said

    CASTE SYSTEM IS DIVISION OF HUMANITY NOT OF LABOUR !!!!!
    Dear Sridhar ,
    Your good self said ( July 13, 2008 @ 4:55 pm ) ,” The caste system was just a division of labour. But, the evil misinterpreters of the middle-ages and during the reign of the British have modified them to their own selfish purpose. Right now, there’s no meaning in brooding over split milk.”
    I just received a book ” How to win any argument -Don`t raise your voice , lose your cool or come to blows ” by Mr.Robert Mayer as gift from the Reader`s Digest on renewing subscription. I will argue with Pandit Sridhar .
    ( 1 ) Why are you calling himself a Brahmin ?
    ( 2 ) Is Brahmin varna low or high in Hindu society ?
    ( 3 ) Why is low or high by birth ?
    (4) Why Brahmin do treat non Brahmin as low grade ?
    ( 5) Why you Brahmins worship the rapists,racists and facists as Gods ?
    ( 6 ) Why do you not condemn the banishment of Sita by his king husband ?
    ( 7) Why do you not condemn Krishna on deserting his wife Rukmani ?
    ( 8) Why do you not marry with non-brahmins en mass ?
    ( 9) Why do you Brahmins create hurdels for implementation of Reservation ?
    ( !0 ) Why do you burn the effigies of Ravan,Kumbkaran and Meghnad every year ?
    ( !1) Why not you burn the effigies of Vishnu who raped Varinda,Ram who compelled Sita to suicide,Brahma who tried his best to rape his own daughter,Inder raped Ahallya ,Krishna who said in Gita that women of all varnas/castes,Vaish and Shudra are sub-human beings,Nathu Ram Godse who killed the Rashtarpita Mahatma Gandhi ,Parshuram who genocided and raped the kshattriya women 21 generations ?
    ( !2) Is varna /caste system division of labour or humanity ?
    (13)Why not Brahmins ever adopted toilet cleaning as profession ?
    (14) Why not they even cleaned their own toilets before the sewerage system ?
    (15) Why not Brahmins ever condemned Pandit Daronachrya for not admitting a shudra Eklavya in his gurukul ?
    ( 16 ) Why did Pandit Daronacharya cut off Eklavya`s thumb of right hand to made him handicap ?
    ( 17) Why King Ram killed innocent and pious shudar Saint Shambuk ? and many many more !
    ( 18 ) Who misinterpreted the caste/varna system in middle age ?
    ( 19) How Britishers modified them to their own interest ?
    (20) Why did Mr.Gandhi` Hindu lobby create hurdeles against untouchables ( SCs) at the Round Table Conferences at London( 1930-1932 AD ) as well as in India ?
    ( 21) Why did a brahmin Nathu Ram Godse Kill a vaish Rashtarpita Mahatma Gandhi ?.
    BRAHMINS WILL NEVER READY TO LOOSE THEIR STATUS .THEY WILL MAINTAIN IT BY HOOK AND CROOK !!!!!

  11. Sridhar. K said

    Dear Chumber,
    Hmm… You’ve made me to think… Well, the elevation of OBCs/SCSTs is a must.
    I don’t deny that. But you’ve developed a deep hatred towards the Brahmins. Ok,
    if that’s pleasing you go on with it. Your words won’t hurt us. What you can do is just talk? This is Information age. So IT people have a bright future. Try to develop your talent and stop wasting your energies in such wasteful craps.

  12. hh said

    1) Why are you calling himself a Brahmin ?

    Ans: Because one who is born into a brahmin family and is taught to follow a brahmanical lifestyle calls himself a brahmin.

    2) Is Brahmin varna low or high in Hindu society ?

    Ans: Brahmin varna is neither high nor low. It is an equal varna without which the social picture won’t be complete.

    3 ) Why is low or high by birth ?

    Ans: High or low is not by birth. It is only by circumstances created after birth.

    4) Why Brahmin do treat non Brahmin as low grade ?

    Ans: Brahmins do not treat anyone as low grade. No one has any right to grade what God has made.

    5) Why you Brahmins worship the rapists,racists and facists as Gods ?

    Ans: This answer has already been given. Gods are all within us. They represent our emotions and realities in the maya world; to guide us from the unreal to the real.

    6 ) Why do you not condemn the banishment of Sita by his king husband ?

    Ans: Who are we to decide and condemn anything? If your son decides to divorce his wife, will you hang him? Please understand vidhi before you judge.

    7) Why do you not condemn Krishna on deserting his wife Rukmani ?

    Ans: Krishna did not desert Rukmini. Read hindu literature again without any political angle.

    8 ) Why do you not marry with non-brahmins en mass ?

    Ans: Why should they? Marriage is a sacrament, a commitment between two individuals. It is not a political issue.

    9) Why do you Brahmins create hurdels for implementation of Reservation ?

    Ans: Non-Brahmins are also against reservation. Reservation is the opposite of meritocracy and should be condemed.

    10 ) Why do you burn the effigies of Ravan,Kumbkaran and Meghnad every year ?
    Ans: All 3 – Ravan, Kumbhkarn and Meghnad were brahmins by birth, but their tendencies were inclined towards destruction. They are burnt to show that in the end truth alone triumphs. Where is jati / varna in the picture here?

    11) Why not you burn the effigies of Vishnu who raped Varinda,Ram who compelled Sita to suicide,Brahma who tried his best to rape his own daughter,Inder raped Ahallya ,Krishna who said in Gita that women of all varnas/castes,Vaish and Shudra are sub-human beings,Nathu Ram Godse who killed the Rashtarpita Mahatma Gandhi ,Parshuram who genocided and raped the kshattriya women 21 generations ?

    Ans: Vishnu did not rape Vrinda. Ram did not compel Sita to suicide. Brahma did not rape his own daughter. Indra cheated Ahilya and suffered his curse – it shows that we must not fall prey to our own Indriyas (senses). Krishna did not say women, vaishyas and shudras are sub-humans. Gandhiji was not an avatara so Godse is condemed, not burnt. I suspect Parashuram was not a brahmin at all. This shows that gunas and karmas are inherited by birth but cannot be fixed into a ‘cast’ like a plaster-cast or caste model. The father’s varna may not apply to the son.

    12) Is varna /caste system division of labour or humanity ?

    Ans: Jati / caste system was division of labour. Varna is independent of Jati and is inclusive of all humanity.

    13) Why not Brahmins ever adopted toilet cleaning as profession ?

    Ans: Because toilet cleaning is unhygenic. Not only brahmins, nobody wants to do it (including non-brahmins).

    14) Why not they even cleaned their own toilets before the sewerage system ?

    Ans: Because you cannot apply the sensibilites of the last century to this century. Non-brahmins also did not clean their own toilets in the past.

    15) Why not Brahmins ever condemned Pandit Daronachrya for not admitting a shudra Eklavya in his gurukul ?

    Ans: Why should anyone condemn what is not in their capacity? Vidya praapti cannot be acquired without the guru’s permission.

    16 ) Why did Pandit Daronacharya cut off Eklavya`s thumb of right hand to made him handicap ?

    Ans: As above plus because Drona had a promise to keep to Arjuna (who was not a brahmin but a kshatriya).

    17) Why King Ram killed innocent and pious shudar Saint Shambuk ? and many many more !

    Ans: Ravana was Vishnu’s doorkeper or dwarapalaka in a previous birth and it was ‘blessing’ for him to receive moksha (or deathlessness) upon ‘death’ by Rama. We do not know about Shambuk or his pervious births. We do not judge. By the way, Ravana was a brahmin killed by the Kshatriya Rama. Not the other way round. So what are you harping about?

    18 ) Who misinterpreted the caste/varna system in middle age ?
    Ans: The purva mimansakas. The Vedantins or Uttara Mimansakas corrected it to a great degree; but the misinterpretations remain in small forms.

    19) How Britishers modified them to their own interest ?

    Ans: By dividing the hindu feudal people and the brahmins. Two monkeys fought and the British fox made hay, added fuel with their own interpretations – gave them to the monkeys who repeat the same things till date and reaped the benefits of the division. The Brits have gone but we are still struck with the same divisiveness.

    20) Why did Mr.Gandhi` Hindu lobby create hurdeles against untouchables ( SCs) at the Round Table Conferences at London( 1930-1932 AD ) as well as in India ?

    Ans: I do not know about this. I do not ever think that Gandhiji who included people into the hindu society as Harijans – children of Hari, will ever create hurdles against them.

    21) Why did a brahmin Nathu Ram Godse Kill a vaish Rashtarpita Mahatma Gandhi ?
    Ans: Go ask Godse. Are you not being silly in nailing the present day brahmin for each and everything that they are not responsible for.

  13. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WILL BRAHMINS NEVER READY TO LOOSE THEIR CASTEIST STATUS ? WILL THEY MAINTAIN IT BY HOOK AND CROOK ? ? ? ? ?
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Happy Hindu @ hh ( July 23, 2008 @ 3:46 am ) had replied one by one to my questions whether they are up to satisfaction or not .I will comment later . But he did not dared to answer my last question ( July 14, 2008 @ 3:31 pm) ,” BRAHMINS WILL NEVER READY TO LOOSE THEIR( CASTEIST ) STATUS .THEY WILL MAINTAIN IT BY HOOK AND CROOK !!!!!
    All viewers including myself are eagerly waiting for the answer .

  14. Karthikeyan said

    Good work hh! My heartfelt appreciations to you. Can you tell me in short what was Drona’s promise to Arjuna pls…

  15. Karthikeyan said

    Brahmins have already lost many job posts and seats in educational institutions they rightfully deserve in the name of reservation. And what is that “casteist status” ? I don’t understand. Nobody is earning money by having a title “Brahmin”. Being Brahmin isn’t a profitable industry anyway, especially where a few people are treated specially and given bonus. What is the point in committing “hook and crook” to maintain a non-profitable business.

  16. hh said

    Karthikeyan,

    Drona has promised to Arjuna that he wud make Arjuna the greatest Archer ever and that he would have no equal.

    Yes, he was unfair in a way to Ekalavya. It was because he was indebted to keep his promise to Arjuna – lets call it brahmin’s promise – the kind one keeps no matter what sins he himself has to accrue on the way to fulfill it.

    It is worthwhile to note that Drona did not think of making his own son the most excellent archer. So we cannot say Drona was selfish either.

  17. hh said

    ~~But he did not dared to answer my last question ( July 14, 2008 @ 3:31 pm) ,” BRAHMINS WILL NEVER READY TO LOOSE THEIR( CASTEIST ) STATUS .THEY WILL MAINTAIN IT BY HOOK AND CROOK !!!!!
    All viewers including myself are eagerly waiting for the answer .~~

    Chumber-ji,

    There is no need to dare to do anything.

    There was no answer because there was no question in it.

    There is no need to maintain anything by hook or crook; when there was no maintainence of any sort at any time.

  18. C,L.CHUMBER said

    UNLESS MR.KARTHIKEYEN DENOUNCE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ,
    AT LEAST I WILL NOT E-DIALOGUE WITH HIM !!!!!

  19. Karthikeyan said

    This is a public forum, so I have right to share my views here. And I’m not compelling anybody to read/reply to/accept my posts. I don’t have any right to do so either. When I say “my views”, it means the views which are originating in the original me. I don’t have to come into words of any influencial person and twist my views. Then they won’t be original.

    Now it it my turn to make a pledge. “I will not post any comment by getting provoked by senseless comments”.

    This is my way of life: “You can either love me or hate me, but you cannot ignore me”. World will not be the same without me. I’m making a difference in the world in my own unique way, possible only by me.

    Of course, you are reading this blog means you are interested in a social cause. I will not, hereafter, disturb you by posting such nonsense posts, similar to this one itself.

    Adhamas speak (ill) about other people.
    Madhyamas speak about wealth and themselves.
    Uthamas speak only of ideas, concepts and science.

    I will try to be Uthama hereafter.

  20. Karthikeyan said

    Thanks HH, that is so kind of you. Coming to Eklavya story, I’ve even learnt that Eklavya secretly watched the training session of Drona to the Pandavas and Kouravas and got the archery skill. This is equalent of stealing education. According to the law of those times, the punishment could have been even bigger than this. But Guru Drona was kind and so asked for his right thumb, so that the skills he learnt by act of deception doesn’t come to use for him.
    Similarly, Parashuram too cursed Karna that he will forget the all his Astra formulas when he most needs them, because Karna too took education from Parashurama by act of deception.

  21. Poornaprajna said

    Most people who read scriptures like Mahabharatha to score political points against Hindus are very immature and do not understand the nuances of literary classics. They peddle some stories and use some selected episodes from this scripture to denigrate the modern day Hindus.

    A mighty epic like Mahabharatha has highlighted all the aspects of Human emotions and social conditionings. It does not label people as Black and White. In the story of Ekalavya, it is Ekalavya who comes out as the hero. Read Vyasa Bharatha well before commenting. Ekalavya shines as a person who being self motivated learnt the art of archery by following the Guru on the sly. It is Drona who comes out as a villian. Even the pandavas had many vices and the fruits of their victory after the war was also not very sweet. Same with the story of Karna. Karna has many good qualities which are highlighted and even to this day Hindus mention Karna for genorosity. So it is with Duryodhana. That is what the sage Vyasa intended it to be. People are not black and white there are many shades of grey. Vidura the the great moralist is just that. Krishna in contrast was context sensitive and had more foresight as compared to Vidura who had fixated ideas on Dharma. Vidura himself acknowledges that.

    The story of Mahabharatha to a great extent is amoral neither Moral or Immoral. It is a mirror of Human conciouness. To understand and study a great scripture like Mahabharatha you need some maturity. These epics describe the archtype of Human conditionings and emotions. It can bring about a great deal of self knowledge and emotional maturity if you read it as it was intented to be read.

  22. hh said

    Poornaprajna and Kartikeyan,

    I agree with Poornaprajna 100%. The scriptures are meant not to be judged, but meant to provide basis for us to think and act with forethought; after having learnt from them.

    The last thing you want to divide people with is something that happened 2000 years ago.

    It is even easier to divide people using religious scriptures of other religions, but no one dares to.

    The point is why cannot hindusim be left alone and be accepted as it is – with its good and bad without being judged.

  23. C,L.CHUMBER said

    GOVT.AND SOCIETY MUST CURB THE EVILS IN THE BUDS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Happy Hindu@hh said (July 31, 2008 @ 10:50 am ) , ” The point is why cannot hindusim be left alone and be accepted as it is – with its good and bad without being judged.” Your Hinduism is not a religion that is why the Indian constitution banned your varna system .The Hinduism is a ism who recognize rapists,racists and fascists as their Gods . In the modern globalisation period ,you people do not denounce these rotten Gods .You justify the rapists , racists and fascists .Can we allow a mental person to roaming ? The Hinduism is a religion of mentals who recognises the social evils . The Govt. and the civilised society must curb these evils in the buds .The people of the world must judge what is good or bad in their surrounding .They must be aware of religious pollution and its remedies !!!!!

  24. krishn said

    We do not want useless politicians making a career using religious pollution and remedies as an excuse.

    We want politicians to be bothered about building infrastructure, removing slums, removing power cuts, creating employment opportunities, building roads, ensuring clean water and air, managing food shortage, petrol shortage, ensuring low crime rate, no rapists (ensure capital punishment or castration), no thefts (ensure speedy trial and long term punishment), no bribery (name them, shame them and debar them for life).

    If you do all this, then call yourself useful to the society.

  25. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WORSHIPING ,DEFENDING AND GLORIFYING THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AND VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM ARE THE BIGGEST EVER SLUMS IN OUR MINDS .WHAT IS THE USE OF MATERIAL DEVELOPMENTS IF YOU ARE NOT DEVELOPED ETHICALLY . YOU TALKED ABOUT CORRUPTION BUT YOU ALL NEVER TOOK NOTICE OF PIN POINTING THE EX CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA FOR HIS CORRUPTION OF RS. 100 CRORES . WHY NOT ? WHAT WILL BE THE USE OF CLEAN WATER AND AIR IF YOUR MINDS ARE SO MUCH POLLUTED THAT YOU NEVER ACCEPT REALITIES . YOU SAID ABOUT SPEEDY TRIALS , I HAD WROTE SO MANY TIMES THAT HOW SHAHID – E-AZAM SAHIB KANSHI RAM B.Sc. WAS FORCED TO PUT HIS THUMB ON HIS FICTITIOUS STATEMENT DATED 14-7-2004 AD IN DELHI HIGH COURT . MY STATEMENTS REGARDING THIS PUBLISHED IN MORE THAN TWO DOZEN NEWS PAPERS INCLUDING THE PUNJAB KESARI`S DELHI EDITION .YOUR SPEEDY TRIALS ARE GREEDY TRIALS .
    If you do all this, then call yourself useful to the society.

  26. Rama Iyer said

    Okay, I havent check how old these posts are. Let me just try to contribute whatever I can to the knowledge here. First of all, Chumber has deep hatred for Brahmins that he has allowd to ferment for sometime now. Most of his examples seem to be from the Puranas, not from the Vedas. He also quotes the Ramayana. The muscle power even as recent as 12 Century were the kings, the Kshatriyas – they were the law makers. Brahmins and so many varnas had to play along. During history, many Brahmin subgroups have been anhilated by Kings and their policies. If Chumber reads a little less selectively, he’ll come across tolerance for the Brahmins. Brahmins just seem to make soft targets these days. I believe that the political wheels behind reservation have put dalits in a caste system rather than saving them from it. I would not have cared who was a BC or OBC or BBC whatever if not for the reservation. These political wheels which seem to help them will crush them, if they dont get off in time. The reservation was suggested by a very intelligent and honourable man Dr. B.R. Ambedkar who actually intended on helping the downtrodden, but the politics blew his thoughts in a completely wrong direction. This direction, I believe will weaken the already downtrodden and reduce them to a plight, much more pitiful than what existed 100s of years ago. Like the Supreme Court and Andre Betille of ICSSR suggested, this is the only time in world history that a group of people fight to get backward status. I couldnt agree more. It is time we dissolved the differences, be it regional, caste, language or religion. These divisions only bring more agony to a society. Groups of people in India have their own cultures. Brhamins are entitled to the same. Shiyas marry among Shiyas, Sunnis marry among sunnis, Brahmins marry among Brahmins. I know christians also would prefer to marry among themselves. Parsis marry among themselves. Chumber seems to take offence, in his desperation, to the preference of one’s community in marriage. I really dont understand the context for this. Everyone, even Americans “prefer” their ancestry e.g. Irish catholics prefer Irish catholics, Italians prefer Italians. That has nothing to do with superiority. Its just that each group of people prefer their culture, their ancestry. As nietzsche said, ofcourse not in these same words “He who fights with demons should take care, lest he become a demon himself”. If chumber blames brahmins for being casteist, some of the “casteism” lies in the overimplementation of the reservation. He has been fighting the “casteism” so long that he’s turned into a reverse=casteist himself. Whether Brahmin or Kshatriya or a Dalit, hatred based on caste is still casteism.

  27. C,L.CHUMBER said

    IF THE KSHATTRIYAS WERE LAW MAKERS , WHY NOT BRAHMINS REVOLTED ?
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr.Rama Iyer said (August 10, 2008 @ 5:28 pm ),” Okay, I havent check how old these posts are. Let me just try to contribute whatever I can to the knowledge here. First of all, Chumber has deep hatred for Brahmins that he has allowd to ferment for sometime now.
    MY ANSWER IS : – YES , FIRST OF ALL YOUR GOOD SELF MUST READ THESE POSTS TO GIVE PROPER ANSWERS ! WHEN YOU HAVE NOT READ THEN HOW YOU CAN DECLARE THAT I AM DEEP HATRED FOR BRAHMINS. I HAVE ONLY PIN POINTED THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .YOU SHOULD FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR COMMENTS . ( 2 ) ( 2) Most of his examples seem to be from the Puranas, not from the Vedas. He also quotes the Ramayana. The muscle power even as recent as 12 Century were the kings, the Kshatriyas – they were the law makers. Brahmins and so many varnas had to play along. During history, many Brahmin subgroups have been anhilated by Kings and their policies.
    MY ANSWE IS :- IF THE KSHATTRIYAS WERE LAW MAKERS THEN WHY THE BRAHMINS ARE 1ST CLASS AND KSHATTRIYAS ARE 2ND CLASS HINDU ? THE KSHATTRIYA KINGS DID NOT ANIHILATE THE BRAHMINS , A BRAHMIN PARSHURAM AND HIS BRAHMINS FINISHED KSHATTRIYA MEN AND RAPED THEIRS WOMEN FOR 21 GENERATIONS !!!!! IS NOT TRUE ? ( 3 )If Chumber reads a little less selectively, he’ll come across tolerance for the Brahmins. Brahmins just seem to make soft targets these days.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I HAVE FULL TOLERANCE FOR EVERY ONE IN THE UNIVERSE . WHY ARE YOU BRAHMIN PEOPLE ARE SO MUCH TOLERANT FOR THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS WELL AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM ? WHY NOT YOU PEOPLE DENOUNCE THESE EVILS PUBLICALY ?
    ( 4 ) I believe that the political wheels behind reservation have put dalits in a caste system rather than saving them from it. I would not have cared who was a BC or OBC or BBC whatever if not for the reservation. These political wheels which seem to help them will crush them, if they dont get off in time.
    MY ANSWER IS : – THE RESERVATION SYSTEM IN CONSTITUTION IS TO ANIHILIATE THE CASTE SYSTEM .NOW ALL COMMUNITIES INCLUDING THE BRAHMINS DEMAND RESERVATION .
    ( 5 )The reservation was suggested by a very intelligent and honourable man Dr. B.R. Ambedkar who actually intended on helping the downtrodden, but the politics blew his thoughts in a completely wrong direction. This direction, I believe will weaken the already downtrodden and reduce them to a plight, much more pitiful than what existed 100s of years ago.
    MY ANSWER IS : – THE RESERVATION IS STILL HELPING THE RESERVE CATEGORIES TO RESERVE THEIRS SHARE IN JOBS BY LAW .THE RESERVATION STRENGTHENED OUR COUNTRY . WHAT IS THE ALTERNATE WITH YOU FOR THE RESERVE CATEGORIES ?
    ( 6 )Like the Supreme Court and Andre Betille of ICSSR suggested, this is the only time in world history that a group of people fight to get backward status.
    MY ANSWER IS :- THE SUPREME COURT IS FULL OF SUPREME CASTES / VARNAS HAVING NO RESERVATION FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVE CATEGORIES !!!!! WHY ? MR.CHARLES EVAN HUGHES SAID ,” WE ARE UNDER A CONSTITUTION , BUT THE CONSTITUTION IS WHAT THE JUDGES SAY IT IS .”
    ( 7) I couldnt agree more. It is time we dissolved the differences, be it regional, caste, language or religion. These divisions only bring more agony to a society. Groups of people in India have their own cultures. Brhamins are entitled to the same. Shiyas marry among Shiyas, Sunnis marry among sunnis, Brahmins marry among Brahmins. I know christians also would prefer to marry among themselves. Parsis marry among themselves. Chumber seems to take offence, in his desperation, to the preference of one’s community in marriage. I really dont understand the context for this. Everyone, even Americans “prefer” their ancestry e.g. Irish catholics prefer Irish catholics, Italians prefer Italians. That has nothing to do with superiority. Its just that each group of people prefer their culture, their ancestry. As nietzsche said, ofcourse not in these same words “He who fights with demons should take care, lest he become a demon himself”. If chumber blames brahmins for being casteist, some of the “casteism” lies in the overimplementation of the reservation. He has been fighting the “casteism” so long that he’s turned into a reverse=casteist himself. Whether Brahmin or Kshatriya or a Dalit, hatred based on caste is still casteism.
    MY ANSWER IS :-When Badshah Hamayun lost his kingdom to Sher Shah Suri , he ran away to his country .One day , he went to the forest for hunting with the king of that country .Hamanyu`s Indian soldiers killed a lion so quickly that the king asked Hamanyu how he lost India having so brave soldiers .The king advised Hamanyu to creat blood relations with Indians to be popular .The Hindi poet Ramdhari Singh Dinkar recorded this incident in his book ” Sanskriti Ke Chaar Adhiaye ” ( Four Chapters of Culture ) in which he wrote that when Hamanyu regained India ,he offered Hindu rulers for relationship. The Hindus refused to take Muslim princesses because theirs ( Muslim/Mughals )daughters will rule Hindu generations.Then Hamanyu accepted Hindu daughters . My point of view is that if Brahmins boasted of their superemacy ,they will be isolated and will be future`s untouchables .This is up to them .( C,L.CHUMBER said,August 6, 2008 @ 2:39 pm UNDER WHY BABA SAHIB MARRIED – – ” )
    I REQUESTED AND ADVISED THE BRAHMINS TO LEAD THE MOVEMENT AGAINST THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AS THE BRAHMINS OF JAPAN DID . THAT IS WHY THE JAPAN IS A WORLD POWER AND INDIA IS A DEVELOPING COUNTRY . MR. LEGAL MAXIM SAID , ” ANCIENT CUSTOM HAS THE FORCE OF LAW .” AND MR.VANBURGH SAID ,” CUSTOM IS THE LAW OF FOOLS .” NOW IT IS UP TO OUR COUNTRY MEN TO BE FOOLS OR TO BE WISE TO DENOUNCE THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS WELL AS THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM . THANKS.

  28. Karthikeyan said

    If Kshatriyas were lawmakers, why should Brahmins revolt? If only Vaishyas were running businesses of profit, why should Brahmins or Kshatriyas revolt? If Shudras were taking laboring work, why should Brahmins/Kshatriyas/Vaishyas revolt? All are doing their duties properly. Nothing to interfere in it.

  29. h said

    Kartikeyan,

    In this century, kshatriyas are not the lawmakers at all, businesses are not run by vaishyas alone, priests are not brahmins-by-birth alone and labourers are not shudras alone.

    Hindusim has already changed – for the better.

    Therefore it is better for us to stop talking about either varna tendencies or jati occupations by birth.

  30. C.L.CHUMBER said

    CAN NOT BRAHMINS DO THE DUTY OF LABOUR PROPERLY ? THEY MUST TRY TO REST THE SHUDRAS .THE SHUDRAS ALWAYS REVOLTED AGAINST THIS FILTHY RELIGION AND THE GODS OF HINDUS KILLED THEM BRUTTUELY e.g KING RAMA KILLED SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK AT SHAMBUK TEK ( NOW CALLED AS RAM TEK ) 64 KMS. AWAY FROM NAGPUR ( REF.VALMIKI RAMAYNA AND TEMPLES OF MAHARASHTRA ,MAHARASHTRA GOVT.) . BUDDHA ,MAHAVIR ,VISHVAMITTRA , TRISHANKU REVOLTED AGAINST THE BRAHMINS.MR.M.K.GANDHI A VAISH MADE HIS SENIORITY AMONG BRAHMINS BUT THE BRAHMINS FINISHED HIM !!!!
    THE PRESENT INDIAN CONSTITUTION IS A CLASSIC PRODUCT OF THE REVOLTS AGAINST BRAHMINS` CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! THE SIKHS` ADI-GURU GRANTH SAHIB IS A RECORD OF THE SHUDRAS AND VAISH SAINTS WHO REVOLTED AGAINST THE BRAHMINS IN THE MEDEAVAL PERIOD !!!!!

  31. h said

    Kartikeyan,

    I hope you see my above post as a humble request please.

    Thanks.

  32. C,L.CHUMBER said

    HINDUISM CAN NOT CHANGE FOR BETTERMENT OF NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN !!!! NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN CHANGED THIERSELVES !!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    THE HINDUISM NEVER CHANGED ITSELF FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE NON-BRAHMINS AS WELL AS WOMEN .THERE WAS NEVER ANY AMENDMENT IN ANY SCRIPTURE OF HINDUISM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN !!!! IT WAS A REVOLT OF BUDDHA AGAINST BRAHMINS/HINDUISM .THE BRAHMINS NEVER LAUNCHED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM .THE BRAHMINS ARE STILL NOT READY TO DENOUNCE THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! THEN HOW DID THE HINDUISM CHANGED ITSELF FOR THE BETTERMENT ? FOR WHOSE BETTERMENT ? GIVE US DOCUMENTARY PROOVES NOT NERELY BOASTING !!!!

  33. mesquiteice said

    Karthikeyan,

    I think the revolt referred to here is/was not a result of occupation but of politics. If you see history, there are two types of revolutionists. One is the types who revolt against fixed systems purely from an intellectual angle eg. Buddha, Subramanya Bharati, Aristotle etc who questioned systems which suppresses rational thinking.

    The other is the type who revolt for political puposes. These revolutionists will divide people and create instability under one pretext or the other and that of helping the people who do not understand that they are also a part of the system and would effectively destablilse themselves. The idea of behind this kind of revolt is simple, make a baby cry and give it milk. The moment the child finds some other source of milk, they will create a need for ice cream and so on. This is endless

    My point is that one way or the other a revolt is certain (not for any particular reason of occupation/oppression etc) because of the exponential growth/transfer of knowledge. This is compounded , given the fact that the stakes are high (both politically and intellectually). All we should do at this point is to give a direction to this revolt which would be helpful in building a stronger India which is a win-win situation, rather than a revolt where we have to fight within ourselves which is a lose-lose situation.

  34. mesquiteice said

    HH,

    I agree that birth does not affect the intellect/occupation of any person. and that it is purely occupational and anybody can choose his varna and practice it just like being a singer, painter, artist, sportsperson etc.

    However, it is my opinion that in reality there is nothing called varna and caste even going by your theory of occupation. This exists only in the minds of the casteists. I am intrigued by the words of annamayya where he says “the place of yagna and pooja(temple), where only ash is left back is no different from the burial ground, where again only ash is left back. both the temple and burial ground are the same”.

    similary there is no difference between the priest and the undertaker.

    the very idea that there exists caste and a misinterpretation that one caste is superior to the other is a political agenda.

    However, i am not implying that there does not exist discrimination which ChumberJi talks about comparing slums with cities etc, but my understanding is the discrimination that is practised today is based on money and power and not caste. People with money will always continue to oppress people who go to them for their money/power. The only way to liberate ourselves from this discrimination is not to run behind people who discriminate on their power. This requires a lot of conviction and discipline. As long as we strive for excellence in whatever occupation we do, we do not give any person the chance to discriminate, but the moment we look upon to someone to guide/give etc then comes oppression if the person is not willing to give.

  35. Karthikeyan said

    Yes h ji, I took it in the right sense you meant. And I said the above comment just to express that nobody needs to revolt or make angry remarks against anybody to prove any point.

  36. ?? said

    HINDUISM CAN NOT CHANGE FOR BETTERMENT OF NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN !!!! NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN CHANGED THIERSELVES !!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    THE HINDUISM NEVER CHANGED ITSELF FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE NON-BRAHMINS AS WELL AS WOMEN .THERE WAS NEVER ANY AMENDMENT IN ANY SCRIPTURE OF HINDUISM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF NON-BRAHMINS AND WOMEN !!!! IT WAS A REVOLT OF BUDDHA AGAINST BRAHMINS/HINDUISM .THE BRAHMINS NEVER LAUNCHED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM .THE BRAHMINS ARE STILL NOT READY TO DENOUNCE THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! THEN HOW DID THE HINDUISM CHANGED ITSELF FOR THE BETTERMENT ? FOR WHOSE BETTERMENT ? GIVE US DOCUMENTARY PROOVES NOT NERELY BOASTING !!!!

    We do not want a useless politician to tell us that. You do not need to tell us who we should denounce. Who are you to interfere in our faith? Since you do not want to be a hindu, you have no right to comment on it either.

  37. soham said

    some useless politicians want proof:

    watch this video: http://www.indiadivine.org/articles/450/1/Video-of-Naga-Baba-Initiation-Ceremony-at-Kumbha-Mela/Page1.html

    All these babas are considred brahmins. No brahmin-by-birth principle here.

    Read abt the Samadhi of Kapil Puri -ji (under Writings -Articles) here: http://www.rampuri.com/ – he was not a brahmin by birth.

    Casteless hindusim is alive and well.

    But there are some idiotic people who will not take any effort to know what is what and instead like to become the prime-minister based on causing hatered and division.

  38. soham said

    mesquiteice,

    am intriguied by what u wrote….missed that angle…

    truly yes, when we look around, its a wonder where on earth is this ‘caste’ that people talk abt.

    took to calling myself a dalit over the last few months and some ppl warned abt literally disowning me if i keep “talking utter nonsense due to lack of exposure”.

    on my own as well, i feel rather sick these days thinking abt this ‘caste’ talk most of the time and find myself totally irritating to me. have had enuf of this caste crap.

    in that sense i wonder how ppl like chumber-ji have that ability to go on fuming, hating endlessly…if only that level of persevarance were put to good use…

  39. h said

    i feel i have caused you a lot of hurt chumber-ji.

    i can give explanations that because you attacked me personally with threat of legal notice therefore i too attacked you personally, or
    because you go around with statements like “bloody fool brahmins” or “barbaric brahmin”, i too used the words idiotic, useless politicians, etc

    or i can say that its because as a common man, am fed up of politicians who think their job is religion instead of economically developing the country.

    whatever the given explanations are, i have belittled myself by belittling you.

    the hurt caused by me that you are carrying at this moment is preventing my peace of mind – as a further block. Am sorry. Please have no anger against me.

    please see this as a personal addressal.

    please do not in any way see it a sign of weakness or confuse it with other things.

    nope i will not denounce any gods or anything, nor do i stop needing a priest…

    yep, i will not indulge in bashing other religions – will remain in the preferance of picking the good parts of every form of faith.

    and yes i will use a better tone of language from now on irrespective of whatever language anyone uses.

  40. C,L.CHUMBER said

    IDIOTS ARE THOSE WHO WORSHIP RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWRS ,
    Mr./Mrs./Miss ? ? said ( August 19, 2008 @ 2:31 am ) ,” We do not want a useless politician to tell us that. You do not need to tell us who we should denounce. Who are you to interfere in our faith? Since you do not want to be a hindu, you have no right to comment on it either.”
    He / she did not replied me. He said me useless politicians .I am not a corrupt politician .I never collect funds . I had even pledged my sweet house for my children`s higher education .I am the Indian citizen to dynamite the all hurdles in the way of our constitution to establish equality,liberty,fratrnity and justice ! The Indian constitution do not recognze the rapists , racists and fascists as Gods . Who is Mr./Mrs./Miss ?? ( he/ she did not dared to write even his/her name ! ) to have faith in evil Gods and caste/varna system which made the lives of non-brahmins a hell ?
    Mr./Mrs./Miss Soham said ( August 19, 2008 @ 3:06 am),” some useless politicians want proof:- -But there are some idiotic people who will not take any effort to know what is what and instead like to become the prime-minister based on causing hatered and division.”
    This confirms that these two people are a person who said me useless politicians within an hour.These pepole do not dare to write theirs name . Why ? They said me idiot .I am thankful that the enemy had given me a certificate .The Idiots are those who worship the rapists ,racists and fascists
    as Gods .My TRUE GODS PREACHED EQUALITY,LIBERITY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO EACH PERSON !!!!!

  41. C,L.CHUMBER said

    DEAR HAPPY HINDU ! I HAD NEVER ANY GRUDGE WITH ANY PERSON IN MY LIFE .tAHT IS WHY , ALL RESPECT,LOVE AND ADMIRE ME . WHEN I WRITE AND SPEAK NO ONE CAN STOP ME EXPRESSING TRUTH. A MINISTER CANCELED MY ONE KANAL PLOT IN URBAN ESTATE. I EXPOSED HIM MORE AND MORE .HE SURRENDERED TO ME AND SENT A MESSAGE TO MET HIM SO THAT HE MAY REINSTATE MY PLOT.I SENT A MESSAGE , ” OUR ULTIMATE AIM IS TO STRENGTHEN THE MASSES TO RULE INDIA .WE DON`T BOTHER FOR A PLOT OF MERE ONE KANAL.THAT PLOT IS NOW OF RS. TWO CRORE VALUE.WHICH MADE ME A DETERMINED PERSON.
    I ALSO FEEL SORRY,IF I HAD SAID ANYTHING WRONG TO YOU OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL .THIS IS A DIALOGUE .THE DIALOGUE MUST CONTINUE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND UNDERSTAND EACH OTHERS .THANKS.

  42. shem said

    My TRUE GODS PREACHED EQUALITY,LIBERITY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO EACH PERSON !!!!!

    Who are your true Gods?

    Please enlighten us.

  43. C . L. CHUMBER said

    MY TRUE GODS ARE ADI-MAHABHAGWANS VALMIKI , SHAMBUK , ADI-MAHAGURUS NAMDEV,RAVIDAS,KABIR,CHOKHA MELA , TUKA RAM , DHANNA ,MIRAN BAI ,DADU DAYAL , NANDNAR , SEHJOBAI , GHAASI DAS AND MANY MORE . THEY ARE NOT RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST LIKE THE FALSE gODS !!!!!

  44. mesquiteice said

    DalitNation,

    In the intro you said “Take control of the Banking system first and thow these papans out”

    All you are trying to do is preach hatered and making racist remarks. Is this correct?

    What is the meaning of the word “papans”.

  45. shem said

    VALMIKI: Worshipped Ram. Wrote Ramayan. Hindu. Rishi.

    SHAMBUK: From now on we will accept him as God.

    NAMDEV: Worshipped Vishnu. Hindu. Rishi.

    RAVIDAS: Worshipped Ram. Hindu. Rishi.

    KABIR: Kundalini Sadhaka. Hindu. Siddhar.

    CHOKHA MELA: Worshipped Vishnu. Hindu. Sant.

    TUKA RAM: Worshipped Vishnu. Hindu. Sant.

    DHANNA: Kundalini sadhaka. Worshipped Vishnu. Hindu. Sant.

    MIRAN BAI: (Mirabai ?): Became one with Krishna. Hindu. Siddhar.

    DADU DAYAL: Kundalini sadhaka. Nath tradition. Hindu. Siddhar.

    NANDNAR: (Nandanar ?): Worshipped and became one with Shiva. Hindu. Siddhar.

    SEHJOBAI: Worshipped Ram. Hindu. Sant.

    GHAASI DAS: Vaishnavite. Hindu. Kundalini Sadhaka. Siddhar.

  46. mesquiteice said

    Chumberji,

    I suppose Adibhagawan VALMIKI wrote the Ramayana.

    How come he praised lord rama when you are bringing out so may allegations against rama

  47. C . L. CHUMBER said

    ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI STOOD IN SUPPORT OF SITA AND HIS PUPILS LAV, KUSH DEFEATED KING RAMA WHO BANISHED THEIRS PIOUS AND INNOCENT MOTHER SITA .THAT IS WHY BRAHMANS BRANDED VALMIKI AS DACOIT .BRAHMANS DO NOT WORSHIP HIS RAMAYNA !!!!! WHY ? DR. AMBAWDEKAR RESEARCHED THAT BRAHMANS EDITED VALMIKI RAMAYNA FIVE TIMES TO SUIT THEM .
    BHAGWAN VALMIKI DID NOT PRAISED KING RAMA , HE EXPOSED HIM .PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.

  48. C . L. CHUMBER said

    WILL MR.SHEM ACCEPT HIS FATHER`S MURDERER AS HIS GOD .KING RAMA MURDERED PIOUS AND INNOCENT SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK .IF MR.SHEM ACCEPTS SAINT SHAMBUK AS GOD THEN HE HAD TO DISCARD KING RAMA !!!!!

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  50. C . L. CHUMBER said

    ALL THE ADI-DHARAM SAINTS WERE ANTI HINDU GODS WHO INVENTED THE RACIAL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!.

  51. C . L. CHUMBER said

    GURU KABIR`S RELIGION IS ADI-DHARAM !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Sant Bishambar Dass Shastri of the Kabir Chaura Math , Maghar Distt. Sant Kabir Nagar ( U.P.) visited our home on 28th August , 2008 with Saint Ram Aadhar Dass and S. Jaswinder Singh Khambra , editor , the Sain Khoj Patrika ( Hindi and Punjabi monthly ) . He is very learned , rational and clear hearted saint . He is very simple in his thoughts and living .
    He said in writing to me that Adi-Guru Kabir was not Brahman , he was aboriginal Indian ! He ( Guru Kabir ) discarded the Hindu Gods . Sant Bishambar Dass wrote that Guru Kabir`s religion was Adi-Dharam !!!!!
    We honoured him , Sant Ram Aadhar and S. Jaswinder Singh Khambra with SIROPAS . They also honoured me with SIROPA .They also aplauded my views and advised to propogate the Adi-Gurvani in english world .I was so much delighted to see them at my home that I assumed as Adi-Gurus Namdev , Ravidas , Kabir and Sain had come . The Brahmanism declared that a person who died in Varanasi go to Hindu Heaven and a person who died in Maghar go to hell ! The daring revolutionary Adi-Guru Kabir chalenged this myth and left the varanasi to breath his last at Maghar . We are proud of our forefathers .I promised to my self to visit Maghar and Varanasi twice in a year to do research on Adi-Gurus Ravidas , Kabir and Sain .

  52. C . L. CHUMBER said

    HINDUS`GITA PRESS ,GORAKH PUR REFUSED TO PUBLISH HISTORY OF ADI-GURU KABIR`S MAGHAR B`CAUSE KABIR WAS NOT SNATAN HINDU !!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    As I had earlier wrote that Sant Bishambar Dass of The Kabir Chaura , Maghar ( U.P.) wrote a letter to me .He also exposed the Gita Press , Gorakh Pur ( U.P.) . He said that he wrote history of the Adi- Guru Kabir`s samadhi sthal , Kabir Chaura , Maghar and approached the Gita Press , Gorakh Pur to publish it . The Gita Press`s administrator refused to publish . He said that the Gita Press publish only literature of the Snatan Hindu Dharam and its saviours . As Kabir was not a Snatan Dharami Hindu , he is helpless to publish it .
    We do not condemn the Gita Press because they gave us a certificate that aboriginals and theirs Adi-Gurus are not Hindus . We appreciate Sant Bishamber Dass ji for writing the history of Adi-Guru Kabir Chaura, Maghar and exposing the Gita Press , Gorakh Pur !!!!!

  53. h said

    ~~~ALL THE ADI-DHARAM SAINTS WERE ANTI HINDU GODS WHO INVENTED THE RACIAL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!~~~

    Ishwara….save me from this heights of stupidity….Ram as always wrong again but this man Chumber actually reads the Valmiki Ramayan according to him…and Ad-dharm were anti-hindus ?…..Chumber-ji, excuse me, i am taking a small break again – really, i cannot suffer this level of ..what i dunno.

    Anyone, please if you can spare patience here, you are blessed indeed. Please help me answer this man’s insufferable crap. Mesquiteice, am depending on you. Help!!

  54. Sanjam said

    Chootiya Lal Chumber is a polygmaous nincampoop asshole, whose mission is to spread hatred, reinforce casteism, fragment our country and ensure that only those who have reservations get the jobs,,, not those who study hard, or work hard, or have brains… but only quotas should decide jobs, promotions, admissions.

  55. C . L. CHUMBER said

    BRAHMANS AND SCHEDULED CASTES HATE EACH OTHER !!!!!
    Adi-Bhagwan Valmiki stood against Ram`s decision of banishment of pious and innocent Sita which was the main cause of King Ram`s fall . He was so humiliated by Sita`s sons Lav and Kush that Ram had to suicide in frustration !!!!! ( read the Uttat Kand of Valmiki Ramayna ! ) .Mr. J.H.Hutton , 1931 Census Commissioner prescribed the careterias of scheduled caste list . One of the creterias was that the ex-untouchables ( SCs ) also hate the Brahmans ! ( ref. Mr. Vimal Chandra former commissioner for SCs and STs commission , New Delhi`s book ” The Definition of Scheduled Castes “.} .

  56. Karthikeyan said

    The name “Adi Dharam” was invented in 1931, and there was nothing like “Adi Dharam” before that. So there is no point claiming Kabirdas, Guru Nanak etc as teachers of/ followers of Adi Dharam because they lived long before 1931. They were Indian Saints, not “Adi Dharam” preachers. None of them used such words in their writings. But they have shown bhakti to “Hari”, “Ram” ect in their writings, so I can claim them to be Hindu Gurus :-D. But is this what they wanted? Not at all. All they wanted is that we should read their writings and follow them for our and our society’s betterment.

  57. mesquiteice said

    Chumbawer Ji,

    Dont lie.

    Valmiki was a dacoit who converted into a sage. you dont have to lie that hindus consider him a dacoit.

    you said “BHAGWAN VALMIKI DID NOT PRAISED KING RAMA , HE EXPOSED HIM .PLEASE READ CAREFULLY”

    ***Balmikis or Valmikis are known with different names in southern parts of India (South India). Usually the Valmiki/Balmiki community are identified as Talwar/Talvar, Nayaka,Bedar & Valmiki.

    Talwar/Talvar: means those persons who handle the sword. (community people were frontier in war or in military force)

    Nayaka:means once again leader of gang or troop in war.

    Bedar: basically that the people from this community were tribes and so are called Bedar.

    Valmiki: As this community follows the teachings of Bhagwan Valimiki Ji, they are just simply called Valmiki.

    Balmiki beliefs

    There is only one God, called Maharishi Valmiki.
    Rejection of the caste system.
    All human beings are equal, regardless of creed, colour or religion.
    The centrality of the Ramayana, which is not just a story but illustrates several ideals of human behaviour.
    The Ramayana is a scripture in its own right.
    Rama was the ideal King putting his duty to the people of his kingdom before his responsibility to his family.
    Sita was the ideal wife, remaining faithful to her husband.
    Lakshmana was the ideal brother, supporting his brother without question, even at great loss to himself.
    Hanuman was the ideal devotee.
    Evil, as illustrated in the form of Ravana, can have no power over those who are dutiful, faithful and obedient.
    Dharma – the path of duty or right action and is the fulfillment of one’s domestic responsibilities attached to one’s role in life; only if this is carried out mindfully and with dedication can it be effective.
    Karma – the theory that there are equal and opposite reactions for every action or that as you sow, so shall you reap.
    Respect for the animal kingdom is as important as respect for one’s fellow human-being. The Ramayana taught the importance of man’s kinship with the animal Kingdom as characterized by Hanuman a warrior from the monkey tribe.

    {reproduced from wikipedia}

  58. h said

    So nice Mesquiteice (what a name :giggle: )

    ~~Karma – the theory that there are equal and opposite reactions for every action or that as you sow, so shall you reap.~~

    Why am i not feeling any remorse, any anger, any hurt, any regret, anything negative by abusing Chumber like this? Despite never having spoken harshest words like this anywhere. I do not feel low either.

    Infact, i strangely feel relief….did this man owe me some karmarinam in the past? Did we owe each other hurt? And did mine come to pass and now it is his turn to feel hurt?

    Looks like am incarnating his nature…and reflecting the strongest side of him. And if that means, taking the man to the court – so be it. Have never believed in empty threats. Have never loved my life that much to be bothered abt anything…

  59. posting again said

    BRAHMANS AND SCHEDULED CASTES HATE EACH OTHER !!!!!
    Adi-Bhagwan Valmiki stood against Ram`s decision of banishment of pious and innocent Sita which was the main cause of King Ram`s fall . He was so humiliated by Sita`s sons Lav and Kush that Ram had to suicide in frustration !!!!! ( read the Uttat Kand of Valmiki Ramayna ! ) .Mr. J.H.Hutton , 1931 Census Commissioner prescribed the careterias of scheduled caste list . One of the creterias was that the ex-untouchables ( SCs ) also hate the Brahmans ! ( ref. Mr. Vimal Chandra former commissioner for SCs and STs commission , New Delhi`s book ” The Definition of Scheduled Castes “.} .
    ———————
    Mr.Idiot,

    Liar, Liar, no matter how much you lie, you cannot change the Valmiki Ramayan. Valmiki Ramayan is here for all to read: http://www.valmikiramayan.net/

    Do not expect people to fall prey to your cheap political agenda.

    Only idiot Chumber loves to hate….ofcourse he cannot be a politician otherwise, right Mr.Dumb-head?

    Mr.idiot, for your info – i have reason to believe that some of the nayaka southies are from an admixture of nearly 20 diff tribes at various levels, one of them being the Bedar tribe / Boyar / Valmiki tribe, the other being the Badaga tribe – both are ST tribes i think.

    Because many of these tribes were associated with Ram / Vishnu worship or because they were Krishna worshipping cowherds or cattle-herds, they seem to have easily taken to Vaishnavism later (they v.likely cud have been goddess worshippers, nature worshippers or linga worshippers prior to their admixture and many ofcourse remained so after their mixing as well).

    Maybe there is reason why typically one can see Nayaks of Andhra, Karnataka and Nairs of Kerala professing Vaishavism more. Similarly, Sinhalese nayakes are associated with Buddha, again considered a form of Vishnu. Oriya Patnaiks are associated with Vishnu worship as well.

    We do not know if faith was a reason for sympatric isolation of this post-tribal admixture called ‘castes’ but v.likely it must have been.

    Do not fool people by calling yourself SC / ST. I am also a ST.

    Practically all ‘castes’ are derived from ancient mixing of various ‘tribes’.

    Many ‘brahmins’ also come from a similar admixture, with just a few other additions.

    India is divided only by economic poverty – its people are not different from one another.

    I already told you – brahmins represent cultural continuity and are not different from other Indians.

    But you horrible man want to club all ‘brahmins’ from all over India as one single entity, label them as ‘outsider aryans’ and want everyone to hate them. Just for cheap sick politics?

    Now i think, after seeing all this nonsense and talking to a horrible liar like you who consistently misquotes or manipulates my words for your divisive political gain, I will not accept any non-brahmin as a priest.

    You horrible politicians can do whatever you want, without people support you can never succeed. And soon, you cheap tricksters will have to bow down to the wishes of us, the common people.

  60. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MR.SANJAM MAY BE ADMITTED TO THE MENTLE HOSPITAL IMMEDIATELY !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr.Sanjam ( Self-control ) has lost self control many a timeas in his writings This is his latest writing to judge his mentle level !Please read and react –
    Sanjam said,
    September 2, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

    Chootiya Lal Chumber is a polygmaous nincampoop asshole, whose mission is to spread hatred, reinforce casteism, fragment our country and ensure that only those who have reservations get the jobs,,, not those who study hard, or work hard, or have brains… but only quotas should decide jobs, promotions, admissions.”
    I ( C.L.CHUMBER ) THINK THAT THERE IS COMPETITION AMONG M/S SANJAM , HAPPY HINDU AND OTHERS TO ABUSE ME TO WIN ” MANUWADI GOLD MEDAL !”. I REQUEST THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF MR.SANJAM TO ADMIT IN A MENTLE HOSPITAL TO MEND HIS WAYS .

  61. C .L . CHUMBER said

    ADI-GURUS WANTED TO DYNAMITE THE VARNA/CASTE SYATEM WHICH WAS INVENTED BY BRAHMA AND BRAHMANS AND PROTECTED BY VISHANU AND HIS INCARNATIONS .ADI-GURUS ` DEDICATED EFFORTS SUCCEEDED IN BANNING THIS FILTHY SYSTEM CONSTITUTIONALLY !!!!! WE ARE PROUD OF THEM .

  62. C .L . CHUMBER said

    NEITHER ADI-MAHA-BHAGWAN VALMIKI WAS A DACOIT NOR RACIST AND FASCIST KING RAMA WAS A TRUE GOD !!!!!

  63. SanJam said

    C.L. CHUMBER HAS A SERIOUS FETISH FOR THE WORDS “RACIST, RAPIST AND FASCIST”
    HE THINKS HE CAN CONTINUE FOUL MOUTHING OTHER COMMUNITIES OR FAITHS WILL MAKE HIM A CHERISHED POLITICIAN!
    MR CHUMBER, WHEN YOU PLAY WITH FIRE, DONT EXPECT IT TO PRACTICE SELF-CONTROL.
    I WILL BURN THE FILTH OF THIS COUNTRY,,, AND THIS SEWAGE INCLUDES “YOU”. A PETTY POLITICIAN, WHOSE ONLY AIM IS TO PREACH HATRED, FOULMOUTHING OTHERS AND YOU THINK HINDUS OR BRAHMINS ARE AFFECTED BY YOUR BULLSHIT?
    NOBODY GIVES A SHIT TO WHO YOU ARE, AND WHAT YOU ARE, AND WHAT YOU DO?
    I DONT GIVE A SHIT!
    BUT IF YOU USE A PUBLIC FORUM LIKE BLOGS ON THE INTERNET TO SPEW YOUR VENOM,,, THEN ITS BETTER TO LOATH AND WEEP IN YOUR OWN DEN RATHER THAN GOING OUT AND SCREAMING YOUR LUNGS OUT.
    CHUMBER,,, RESERVATIONS AND QUOTA IS ONE MAJOR REASON WHY THE INTELLECTUALS OF THIS COUNTRY WILL MIGRATE.
    I’LL BE VERY HAPPY TO NEVER HEAR FROM THE LIKES OF CHUMBER LALS.
    It would be a total shame to bring up a family where scum like chumber lal exists.
    there are SCs, STs, BCs, OBCs residing in foreign countries,,, why dont they tell the world how brahmins kill dalits on streets of india?
    please slither down the hole that you have chumber,,, people like you are not needed by this country.
    WE DO NOT NEED YOU!
    You are a preacher of hate and conceit, with permanent blinders of jealousy covering your eyes.
    I wish there is 100% reservation for all the dalits in india. it will be total achievement of complete freedom from work, merit, and ethics.
    you would have eliminated every smart candidate from joining any function of this country.
    ALREADY, YOU PEOPLE HAVE TURNED “TOUCH-ME-NOTs” FROM BEING “UNTOUCHABLES”.
    LET THEIR BE YOUR RULE, YOUR WILL, YOUR EVERYTHING.
    PLEASE TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THIS COUNTRY,,, EVERYTHING!
    BUT
    JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  64. h said

    ADI-GURUS WANTED TO DYNAMITE THE VARNA/CASTE SYATEM WHICH WAS INVENTED BY BRAHMA AND BRAHMANS AND PROTECTED BY VISHANU AND HIS INCARNATIONS .ADI-GURUS ` DEDICATED EFFORTS SUCCEEDED IN BANNING THIS FILTHY SYSTEM CONSTITUTIONALLY !!!!! WE ARE PROUD OF THEM .

    NEITHER ADI-MAHA-BHAGWAN VALMIKI WAS A DACOIT NOR RACIST AND FASCIST KING RAMA WAS A TRUE GOD !!!!!
    ———————————

    Liar, Liar, Liar…….

    I gave you the link to your own Adi-Bhagvan Valmiki’s version of Ramayan.

    Bhagvan Valmiki NEVER spoke bad about Ram.

    Where is the proof that Adi-bhagavans wanted to remove Varna?

    There was no social varna in their times, you idiot – then how to ‘remove’ them?

    You lie and lie. Stupid fellow.

  65. mesquiteice said

    H,

    One person called chumber has hepled us to understand how to LINK UP

    It appears that you have surrendered your relationship with chumber to the higher consicousness. This is more so because you do not know who, where, this person Chumber is from. For all you know, this may not be a person itself !. Therefore you have been able to interact with chumber without giving any visualisation. Maybe If you see chumber and speak to him, you may not get the same feeling if you interact with him.

    Once you interact with an individuals consciousness without referance to his visualisation( young/old, rich/poor, ugly/beautiful etc) you no more are bound by karma. All that is done is being said is being said by GOD, so you dont feel bad about what you say. All that is being said to you is also said to god, so you dont have to worry about any abuse.

    We all try to replicate this at every aspect of our life. We try to blame things of god, but never give him the fruits of success. We are hugry for success that is why we want to say “I” did it, I won it, I am correct etc.

    Please let me know if you think otherwise.

    In this context, I completely disagree with Chumber, because he keeps bringing out new visualisations which do not even exist a the physical level. He want to classify people as either brahmins or dalits. which is itself a folly. because there are so many people who are neither brahmins nor dalits.

    He is assuming that he understands dalits problems more than anyone, which in fact he does not.

    To clarify, I am not telling that Chumber is bad/wrong etc. and we are not the one to make chumber good or bad. But am sure that people who get into his line will be led into assumptions which may not be true.

    The purpose of this post is not to target “chumber” the person. But there people like chumber who are still living in past history and are not able to look forward to good things in life.

    May the “HIGHER CONSIOUSNESS” lead us in the path to realisation

  66. C.L.CHUMBER said

    ADI-BHAGWAN STOOD AGAINST KING RAMA WHO BANISHED SITA . KING RAMA KILLED PIOUS AND INNOCENT SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK ? WHY ? BECAUSE THE BRAHMANS PLOTED TO KILL SAINT SHAMBUK BEING SHUDRA DOING BHAKATI !!!!! ADI-MAHA-BHAGWAN RECORDED THIS TO EXPOSE KING RAMA !!!!!

  67. h said

    Mequiteice,

    Thanks much for your kind words…

    but it will take to time wash off my sins, anyways…..

    i know it is not right to ask anyone for a public apology….but, that is meant to deter him from indulging further in caste-based politics…

    i do not think the people who claim to be following adi-dharam or buddhism are following either at all – or for that matter, they are not following any faith at all but are following a political version of everything.

    they have abused rationalism as espoused by periyar as well, periyar intension was to make a casteless and classless society (yup he truly did want that) ..but what these evangelists and mullahs have done is to take advantage of the situation……any non-brahmin hindu is automatically a shudra to them and an eligible soul to harvest….

  68. h said

    ADI-BHAGWAN STOOD AGAINST KING RAMA WHO BANISHED SITA . KING RAMA KILLED PIOUS AND INNOCENT SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK ? WHY ? BECAUSE THE BRAHMANS PLOTED TO KILL SAINT SHAMBUK BEING SHUDRA DOING BHAKATI !!!!! ADI-MAHA-BHAGWAN RECORDED THIS TO EXPOSE KING RAMA !!!!!
    —————————

    Adi-Bhagavan did not “record” this to “expose” Rama…

    Only you are “using” this to “judge” Rama..

    Adi-Bhagavan wrote the story without judging….He did not call anyone bad..

    Rama did not kill only Shambuk..but many others as well….

    Prove it:
    a) That Valmiki “stood against” Rama for banishing Sita.
    b) That brahmins plotted to kill Shambuk (note: Rama was khastriya, not a brahmin. Show your anger against khsatriyas then, why brahmins..)..

  69. SanJam said

    Wow, Mr Chumber, I saw ravana on way to my office today,,,
    you know, i saw that ravana had 10 heads, and was brandishing weapons. before i could do anything about it, i also noticed a huge army of ponytailed brahmins, they were shouting slogans against king ram and sita. they wanted to change the world by killing all the dalits, harijans etc etc.
    mr chumber, i’m really concerned that how these manuwadi mythological creatures are ruining our country. we need to strengthen security arrangements and must kill these mobs of brahmins and ravanas.
    you know, the other SHAHEED -E-AAZAM HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS SHREE SHREE KANSHI RAM JI MAHARAJ was also seen giving interview to a news channel in USA. His highness was very concerned about the exploitation of jews during the holocaust of world war 2. He prescribed circumsizing all the brahmins and christians to teach them a lesson in messing up with jews. since all of us know that adi-bhagwaan was the real bhagwaan, and SAINT SHAMBUK WAS THE ONLY MESSIAH THAT EVER CAME ON THIS EARTH, WE MUST ENSURE THAT ALL OTHER GODS BE CALLED RACIST, RAPIST, MEGALOMANIACS. AND LETS ALL STONE THE BRAHMINS TO DEATH.
    chumber ji, has benevolently ensured that all the wrong-doings and crimes of brahmins will be punished. ALL the brahmins (100%) of them, have committed countless crimes in the last 2 milleniums. we must bring them to justice and stone them all to death!
    how dare these brahmins worship false gods, when real gods are lying in the closet of mr chumber?
    lets teach these crooked brahmins a lesson. lets just kill them all.
    RIGHT? MR CHUMBER?
    DO YOU AGREE?

  70. mesquiteice said

    WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO PASS COMMENTS ABOUT VALMIKI AND HIS WORKS

    Chumber Ji,

    As far as I know Ramayana is a epic about “RAM”. If you take any story for eg”Robinhood” you will see that the author writes about the person both bad and good. All stories are like that.

    What is your connection to Valmiki? why are you trying to glorify valmiki. Think about whether what you are doing is correct or wrong rather than trying to interpret whether valmiki told good or bad about others.

    By talking like this you are trying to portray Valmiki as a politician who will write bad things about others. You are trying to imply that Valmiki wrote bad things about Rama.

    Dont talk bad about valmiki

    We have higest regards for valmiki. Dont demean his greatness by behaving as though you were present with valmiki when he wrote the ramayana and that valmiki told you that he was writing bad things about rama.

    Authors/writers write things as it is . Both good and bad. Only politicians take what is bad and leave what is good.

  71. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I WILL NOT DIALOGUE WITH THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST.RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS WHO HAD LOST IN DIALOGUE AND NOW IN FRUSTRATION USE FILTHY LANGUAGE REGULARLY !!!!

  72. h said

    I WILL NOT DIALOGUE WITH THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST.RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS WHO HAD LOST IN DIALOGUE AND NOW IN FRUSTRATION USE FILTHY LANGUAGE REGULARLY !!!!
    ———————-

    You will not dialogue or you have no answers?????

    anyways….i feel pity for you.

  73. Karthikeyan said

    Ok ok Chumber Ji, don’t talk to me or any of us.
    You have something to say right? Say it here in public 😀
    But I will keep on exposing to yourself your evil side and your cunning pointless hatred towards your fellow citizens. You have clearly started shivering. Surely you’ll either change your behaviour or will “run away” from here just as you said 😀

  74. SanJam said

    mr chumber must be really really lonesome….
    most of his rants have been put to rest,,, he must be searching new sort of bullshit before he starts hurling it at the this dalination blog….
    poor chumber.
    if you want to post anything,,, i’ll advise you to come up with hard evidence and proof for all your nonsense claims,,, esp about manusmriti, lord ram, or divine status of brahmins! all these things are bullshit!
    nobody measures a person by his caste… only chumber does..
    nobody berates god of any religion,,, but chumber has unlimited energy to abuse everything under the subject of hinduism. now, i can compile a book on his lies and then publish another blog called: bullshitbychumber.wordpress.com
    LMHO!

  75. C .L . CHUMBER said

    UNCULTURED PERSONS ABUSE IN DIALOGUE FREQUENTLY BY MAKING A GANG OF FICTITIOUS PERSONS / NAMES ! UNCULTURED PERSONS WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !! UNCULTURED PERSONS DO NOT DEFEND THEIRS GODDESSES FROM THE ATTROCITIES OF THEIRS UNCULTURED HUSBANDS / RAPIST, RACIST , FASCIST GODS !!! UNCULTURED PERSONS CALL MANU AS SAINT !!!! UNCULTURED PERSONS CALL DR.AMBEDKAR@ DR. AMBAWDEKAR AS ” DUMB-ED-KAR “.
    I USE PARLIAMENTRY LANGUAGE BUT YOU UN-PARLIAMENTARY PEOPLE USE UN-PARLIAMENTARY LANGUAGE WHICH CONFIRMS YOUR MANUWADI BENT OF MIND .

  76. happyhindu-hh said

    UNCULTURED PERSONS ABUSE IN DIALOGUE FREQUENTLY BY MAKING A GANG OF FICTITIOUS PERSONS / NAMES ! UNCULTURED PERSONS WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !! UNCULTURED PERSONS DO NOT DEFEND THEIRS GODDESSES FROM THE ATTROCITIES OF THEIRS UNCULTURED HUSBANDS / RAPIST, RACIST , FASCIST GODS !!! UNCULTURED PERSONS CALL MANU AS SAINT !!!! UNCULTURED PERSONS CALL DR.AMBEDKAR@ DR. AMBAWDEKAR AS ” DUMB-ED-KAR “.
    I USE PARLIAMENTRY LANGUAGE BUT YOU UN-PARLIAMENTARY PEOPLE USE UN-PARLIAMENTARY LANGUAGE WHICH CONFIRMS YOUR MANUWADI BENT OF MIND .
    ———————————-

    Chumber,

    Prove it that:

    1) You are not a dumbedkar. Only dumb people like you will suggest praying to a non-religious man like Ambedkar.

    2) You are not uncultured. Do you want reservations in law also? One rule for you and another rule for others? You want to use the words rapist, fascist and racist but others must behave decently with you?

    3) Ofcourse Manu was a saint compared to you politicians.

  77. C .L . CHUMBER said

    Mr.HAPPY HINDU ! HAVE YOUR FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS TOLD THAT I AM RAPIST ? PLEASE CLEAR THIS , THEN I WILL DIALOGUE WITH YOU !!!!!

  78. C .L . CHUMBER said

    WHY RAM`S FATHER ( ? ) DASARATHA MADE PREGNANT HIS WIVES BY HIS GRAND SON ( DOHTA-SON OF ONE`S DAUGHTER ) RISHI SHARINGI ?????
    Dear Viewers ,
    I am sorry that I could not dialogue because I was on tour of Maharashtra , Andhra Pardesh and Gujrat for two weeks .Today , I returned .
    In Pune ( Maharashtra ) , I visited the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute -411004 .It was founded on July 6, 1917 and is a public organisation registered under Act 21 of 1860 AD . It is partly supported by annual earmarked grants from the Maharashtra Government which nominates five representatives on the Regulating Council and two on the Executive Board .The institute has also received grants from the Government of India and the University Grants Commission for special research projects . This institute is known for its world famous” Critical Edition Of the Mahabharta ” which costs Rs.19,000/- !
    I purchased only two books on Mahabharta ( 1986 AD ) and Ramayna ( 1994 AD ) both written by Mr. M.R.Yardi .Some fanatic manuwadis lost in dialogue in protecting theirs rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods and abused me in writting frequently in the dalitnation . wordpress.com .This confirms that the manuwadis can not dialogue .They impose their views dictatorly and if they fail then they lost temper . They even called me rapist , racist and fascist without any evidence in frustration ! It is the biggest ever irony in the world`s history and mythology that the followers and defenders of rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods blamed others so bitterly !!!!!
    I am a member of a self-respectful family and a citizen of a India like country . I will answer him / them in a very cultured way with references so that no one in future can behave like this .
    I hereby reproduce Mr.M.R.Yardi`s book ” The Ramayna : Its Origin and growth ” as below with courtesy :-
    ” Rishi Shranga was the son of sage Vibhandka . He was brought up by his father in complete isolation from the rest of the world , so that he had not come into the contact with women .When the kingdom of Anga suffered from a severe famine , king Lomapaada was advised that if he could bring Rishi Saranga there , the rain would come and bring prosperity to his kingdom . The ascetic youth was enticed with the help of beautiful harlots and later given princess Shanta in marriage . In some Ramayna versions ( Buckle, para 343 ) , Shanta is said to be THE DAUGHTER OF DASARATHA ,GIVEN BY HIM in adoption to his friend Lomapaada . DASARATHA BROUGHT THE SAGE TO AYODHYA TO PRESIDE OVER HIS ASHAVMEDHA SACRIFICE IN ORDER TO GET SONS ( 1 . 8 . 10 . ) ”
    I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS UNETHICAL STEP OF DASARATHA IN DETAIL . BUT THIS IS A BEFITTING REPLY TO THOSE MANUWADIS WHO TRIED THEIR BEST TO ESTABLISH ADI-MAHAGURU KABIR AS HARAMZADA IN VAIN .THIS CONFIRMS THAT RAM AND HIS STEP BROTHERS ARE NOT SONS OF DASARATHA !!!!! ACTUALLY THEY WERE THE SONS OF THEIRS SISTER`S SON WHO MADE PREGNANT RAM`S MOTHER AND STEP-MOTHERS .THE SARITA FORTNIGHTLY , DELHI ALSO PUBLISHED BABU JAGJIVAN RAM`S ( DY PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA ) INTERVIEW IN 1980 AD IN WHICH HE HIGHLIGHTED THIS UNETHICAL BIRTHS OF RAM AND HIS STEP-BROTHERS !!!!! I WILL DISCUS IT LATER ON .

  79. C .L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ PAGE NO. 210-11 OF THE ABOVE CITED BOOK .THANKS .

  80. C .L . CHUMBER said

    EVERY BODY IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM except chumber !!!!!

    MR.HAPPY HINDU AND MANY MORE FICTITIOUS NAMED WORSHIPER , DEFENDER AND GLORIFIERER OF RAPIST VISHANU ( RAPED WITH MATA VARINDA W/O,BHAGWAN JALANDHAR ,READ HINDUS` PADAM PURAN , PUNJAB GOVT.`S DISTT. JALANDHAR GAZETEER AND WATCH MOVIE TULSI-VIVAH ! ) , RACIST -BRAHMA , VISHANU ,RAMA ,PARSHURAM ( BRAHMA INVENTED FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM , VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONED EVIL GODS MANTAINED THE FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM BY FORCE , AYODYA`S KING RAM MURDERED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK UNDER BRAHMANS`INSTRUCTIONS ,READ UTTAR KAND CHAPTER OF VALMIKI RAMAYNA ,PARSHURAM AND HIS BARBARIAN BRAHMANS KILLED KSHATTRIYAS 21 GENERATIONS AND RAPED THEIRS WIVES ,DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS DURING THIS PERIOD ) AND FASCIST BRAHMA , VISHANU AND HIS INCARNATED EVIL GODS ) .
    MR.HAPPY HINDU AND MANY MORE FICTITIOUS NAMED
    DECLARED THAT
    ” Everybody is against rapism, racism and fascism EXCEPT CHUMBER.”

    IS HE DOING E-DIALOGUE OR CREATING ENIMITY AMONG THE VIEWERS ? ACTUALLY I AM FIGHTING AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY BE LIBERATED MENTALLY FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND MR.HAPPY HINDUS ARE ABUSING ME NON STOP
    MAY TRUE GOD AND THE LAW INFORCING AGENCIES OF INDIA AND INTER- POL BLESS/INFORCE THEM TO DISCARD THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!!

  81. shem-happy-hindu-hh said

    IS HE DOING E-DIALOGUE OR CREATING ENIMITY AMONG THE VIEWERS ? ACTUALLY I AM FIGHTING AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY BE LIBERATED MENTALLY FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND MR.HAPPY HINDUS ARE ABUSING ME NON STOP
    MAY TRUE GOD AND THE LAW INFORCING AGENCIES OF INDIA AND INTER- POL BLESS/INFORCE THEM TO DISCARD THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!!
    —————————

    mad mullahs who are socially toxic and need to be discarded by petitioning do not require any response

  82. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MULLAH IS MUSLIM TERMINOLOGY ! WHY ARE YOU USING THIS FOR ME ? pLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OTHERWISE YOU WILL DEFINITELY FAIL IN YOUR E-DIALOGUE EXAMINATION !!!!!

  83. happihindu said

    MULLAH IS MUSLIM TERMINOLOGY ! WHY ARE YOU USING THIS FOR ME ? pLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OTHERWISE YOU WILL DEFINITELY FAIL IN YOUR E-DIALOGUE EXAMINATION !!!!!
    ———————————–

    Chumber,

    you really have a MASSIVE immaturity prob, don’t you?

    For the first time, after a long time visiting this website has made me laugh.

    What do you mean by exam and what is this e-dialogue exam?

    Let me know if you find everything in Islam perfect ? Then I will stop using “mad mullah” for you.

  84. Sanjam said

    chumber,,, you want to say that brahmins control mayawati?
    brahmins are in conspiracy to dethrone mayawait?
    by hook or crook,, by left or right,,, its the brahmins that inspired mayawati and indian judges, registrar and govt advocates to cause brain haemorrauge to kanshi ram.
    mr chumber, you wrote:
    “Mayawati did it under the instuctions of RSS`BJP government because Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram did not compromise with the Indo-Aryan imperialistic forces .”
    hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa
    and your shaheed-e-aazam,,, a petty, two penny asshole kanshi ram was to be prime minister of india?
    are you out of your fuckin mind?
    have you ever analyzed manmohan singh’s resume? do you know how many languages vajpayee knows? do you have a clue about the amount of responsibility and burden that an indian prime minister has to shoulder?
    fucked up twisted jokers like you or kanshi ram or mayawati,, will have to evolve for another couple of hundred years before the likes of you can even dream of becoming anything useful for the civilization.
    i dont know a single achievement of kanshi ram other than spreading ambedkar’s bullshit. WHILE YOU ADDRESS HIM WITH SO MUCH RESPECT AND WHY THE HELL YOU CALL HIM SHAHEED-E-AAZAM? A BLOODY LOW GRADE SELFISH POLITICIAN.
    and what in this universe takes you to stand by your words?
    every second comment of yours completely counters the last one!
    do you have any sanity or stability of mind? or,
    more important,
    do you have a mind of your own? or you keep spewing and vomiting whatever is fed to you?
    i read the book “riddles of hinduism” by dr bozo ambedkar,, and let me tell you,,, that joker had very little grey matter or brain cells in his head.
    WHAT HE COULDNT UNDERSTAND BECAME A RIDDLE FOR HIM AND REST OF HIS FOLLOWERS. SO, ITS GOOD THAT THE LIKES OF AMBEDKAR AND KANSHI RAM ETC ARE NEITHER TAKEN SERIOUSLY NOR WILL THEY EVER BE!
    while you can keep ranting and fabricating brahmin – jew conspiracies and dog-shit!
    chumber,,, you are pathetic loser!

  85. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    I believe it is none of you business to explain what you feel that Sanjam and HH will do.

    This is upto them. Why are you bothered.

    If you want to e-dialouge answer only the questions or respond to answers to your posts. Once you start understanding others, these things will go away on its own.

    You are now suffering because of your own deeds where you called others “Bloody Fool”, “Rapi*t”, “Raci*t” and “Faci*st”. You insulted freedom fighters and other people.

    Please dont forget that you abused karthikeyan and HH so much to start with. Now you are reaping the rewards.

    IF YOU SPREAD LOVE, YOU GET LOVE,
    IF YOU SPREAD HATERED, YOU WILL GET HATERED.

    Dont now cry like a baby. All you have to do is to stop abusing other religions and others gods. Talk logically.

    A CAT’s MEW will never become a LIONS ROAR. Dont think people are abusing you because you are great. Even criminals appear in headlines, that does not make them great. All generations of people will be taught not to behave like CHUMBER.

    EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS/COMMENTS; BUT NOT YOUR HATERED

  86. C .L . CHUMBER said

    RIDDLES OF HINDUISM WRITTEN BY BHARAT RATAN DR. AMBEDKARDR PUBLISHED BY THE MAHARASHTRA GOVERNMENT !!!! DR. AMBEDKAR CRUSHED THE BACKBONE OF HINDUISM BY BANNING THE VARNA SYSTEM !!!! SAHIB KANSHI RAM EXPOSED THE HINDUISM POLITICALLY !!!!!.

    Sanjam said,
    September 25, 2008 @ 9:29 am

    ” I read the book “riddles of hinduism” by dr bozo ambedkar,, and let me tell you,,, that joker had very little grey matter or brain cells in his head.
    WHAT HE COULDNT UNDERSTAND BECAME A RIDDLE FOR HIM AND REST OF HIS FOLLOWERS. SO, ITS GOOD THAT THE LIKES OF AMBEDKAR AND KANSHI RAM ETC ARE NEITHER TAKEN SERIOUSLY NOR WILL THEY EVER BE!

  87. c.l.chumber said

    MANUWADI MINDED ABUSERS MUST BE DISCARDED BY THE DALIT-NATION AS WELL AS BY THE http://DALITNATION.WORDPRESS.COM .

  88. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. SANJAM ! DR. AMBEDKAR WAS NEITHER BOZO NOR JOKER .HE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DRAFTING COMMITEE OF THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION AND FIRST EVER LAW MINISTER OF INDIA .HE WAS THE SON-IN-LAW OF A CHIPAVAN BRAHMIN FAMILY OF PUNE ( MAHARASHTRA ) .
    HE WAS AWARDED WITH THE HIGHEST CIVILIAN HONOUR ” THE BHRAT RATAN ” POSTHUMOUSLY ! MR. SANJAM ! HAVE YOU WRITTEN ANY BOOK OR EVEN A RESEARCH PAPER ?

  89. hindushemhappy said

    MR. SANJAM ! DR. AMBEDKAR WAS NEITHER BOZO NOR JOKER .HE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DRAFTING COMMITEE OF THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION AND FIRST EVER LAW MINISTER OF INDIA .HE WAS THE SON-IN-LAW OF A CHIPAVAN BRAHMIN FAMILY OF PUNE ( MAHARASHTRA )
    ———————–

    Sorry Chumber. Comment was to Sanjam….But i really cannot help laughing at this and intruding …..man, the way you keep repeating that Ambedkar was son-in-law of some brahmin family, its really funny — is that some sort of a big achievement or qualification?

    Who cares what he did in his personal life? Anyone can marry anyone, or not marry anyone and do whatever they want…what’s your business with their personal life?

  90. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMIN PEON OF A COLLEGE THREW FILES INSTEAD OF HAND OVER TO PRINCIPLE DR. AMBEDKAR . THE SAME BRAHMAN COMMUNITY CHOOSE HIM TO BE A SON-IN-LAW ! IS THAT NOT A BIG ACHIEVEMENT AT THAT TIME ?
    THIS WAS NOT DR. AMBEDKAR`S PERSONAL LIFE .IT WAS HIS SOCIAL LIFE . HE AS AN UNTOUCHABLE GAVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE MANUWADI INDO-ARYANS .

  91. hinduhappyshem said

    THE BRAHMIN PEON OF A COLLEGE THREW FILES INSTEAD OF HAND OVER TO PRINCIPLE DR. AMBEDKAR . THE SAME BRAHMAN COMMUNITY CHOOSE HIM TO BE A SON-IN-LAW ! IS THAT NOT A BIG ACHIEVEMENT AT THAT TIME ?
    THIS WAS NOT DR. AMBEDKAR`S PERSONAL LIFE .IT WAS HIS SOCIAL LIFE . HE AS AN UNTOUCHABLE GAVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE MANUWADI INDO-ARYANS .
    ———————

    i do not know if any marriage is any form of achievement.

    as a father, i only hope you do not spoil the happiness of your children by asking them to marry for caste, instead of allowing them to choose a girl / boy who makes them happy.

  92. hinduhappyshem said

    Mr.Dumbedkar Liar Mad Chumber,

    Try to listen to this and understand:

  93. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU HAS DISCARDED HIS RAPIST GODS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu @ happyhindushem @ lavnya @ shem said ( September 30, 2008 @ 2:39 am ),”My Gods did not rape. Why should I discard them .”
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/beware-of-meditation/#comment-1769
    My ANSWER IS ;- Mr. Happy Hindu was a staunch follower of Vishanu who raped Adi-mata Varinda w/o Adi-mahabhagwan Jalandhar as recoeded in the Padam Purana , the district Jalandhar`s gazeteer published by the Punjab government and the Hindi movie the ” Tulasi Vivah .”
    Now Mr.Happy Hindu was fed up of rapist Vishanu .He discarded him by writing that he had no rapist God ! i already said that vaidik people have to discard either the evil Gods or their scriptures . He pefered scriptures to the evil Gods . He already took stand against rapism , racism and fascism . He also took stand that every body had burnt the Manu-simrity !
    I congrtulate Mr. Happy Hindu for this development in the history of India . I wish him success in the war against the rapism , racism and fascism !!!!!

  94. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Mesquiteice said,( October 4, 2008 @ 7:36 am ) ,” Chumber,Our Constitution does not differentiante between any person. I am as much an indian as much as you are( if you are). whether vaidik, aborigianal or otherwise we are all indians. This is want constitution says.
    MY VIEWS :- Our constitution also recognizes intercaste / intervarna marriages but you are abusing me bitterly for my views in support of the constitutional marriages . Why ? If we are all Indian then why not we discard the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods ?
    ( 2 ) your way of differentiating itself is anti contituitonal. talk like an indian.
    What ever you are whoever you are whatever you do .truth is truth.
    MY VIEWS :- FIRST OF ALL YOU ACCEPT THAT OUR CONSTITUTION HAD BANNED RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AND YOUR GOOD SELF IS WORSHIPING , DEFENDIND AND GLORIFYING THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS . THE TRUTH IS TRUTH BUT YOU ABUSE ME .I AM DIFFERENTIATING FROM THE EVIL PEOPLE ONLY .
    ( 3 ) I feel bad when you are telling that narayana murty refused to give you some thing. Why should you ask him.If a person next door asks you for 10,000 Rs everry month? what will you do. Narayana murty did teh same thing. dont blame him.
    MY VIEWS : – I ALSO FEEL BAD THAT YOU ARE A LIAR . I NEVER CONTACTED MR. NARAYNA MURTHY IN PERSON OR IN WRITING .HAVE YOU PROOF ? YOU MUST FEEL SORRY .
    ( 4 ) create you own infosys only for dalits. become great.
    MY VIEWS : – THE CASTE SYSTEM IS MAIN HURDLE IN OUR BUSSINESS DEVELOPMENT .I LEFT THE TEHSIL WELFARE OFFICER POST 30 YEARS AGO TO DO A MARKETING BUSSINESS . I SUCCEEDED VERY WILL AND OUR TEAM STOOD FIRST IN NORTH INDIA AND THIRD IN INDIA .IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO CREATE THE INFOYSYSES WHEN WE WOULD HAVE CLEANED INDIA FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!WE NEED YOUR CO-OPERATION .
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-2073

  95. shhhapinendupy said

    MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?
    ————–

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    Post was to Mesquiteice. But i am writing in between. Want to tell you that you are a liar. Our gods were neither rapist, nor racist nor fascist. It is mullahs-commies-missionaries who are making up and propagating all lies about hindusim, to create divisions. And dumedkar politicians like you want to make a living out of it. For once, drop your politician stand, be with yourself for a few min and listen to this:

  96. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    1) I am not against intercaste marriages, not did I abuse you for supporting them. What I do not approve of is your theory that just because your forefathers were opressed, you should be given the exclusive right to marry brahmin ladies. what i wanted to tell is that brahmin ladies are also ladies. You cannot / must not tell them whom they should marry. They will marry whom they want.

    2) Please note that contitution only banned rapi*m, raci*m and faci*m. It does not state that you cannot worship any god. In fact it bans people like you from indulging in others beliefs. If you dont want dont do. Who are you to tell others what is right/wrong. MIND YOUR BUSINESS? The most shameful part is that you are giving these advice to people who dont want it nor respect you. you are degrading yourself and all of us here. That is why hh and karthikeyan apologised and felt bad for abusing you.

    3) I didnt mean you. I meant the people who are blaming narayana murthy for throwing their request in the dust bin. Please read the intro to this blog

    4)Losers give thousands of reasons. Winners dont. I appreciate your entreprenurial spirit. I would request you and your team to work had and become like “Microsoft” and “UNILEVER”. You cannot relax with being third in India because You have got a bigger work to do. I wish that you become first not only in India but the world. Employ only 100% dalits. Let us see who will stop your growth.

    The fact that you feel that you cannot come up because of “gods”,”caste”, “Varna”, “Stories”, etc are your own creations. Just forget these things because these were true you could never have come first in north india. Similarly there is nothing to stop you from becoming first in the world.

    please note that you can never clean India, because it is already clean. Your idea that adi dharm is good and hinduism is bad only shows your lack of understanding of the oneness that exists in the universe. This kind of abusig others faiths will never help you to liberate dalits. You will only end up fighting with others and make everbody hate dalits. Every person has and will have his own opinion. Dont try to stuff your ideas on others.

    Also whatever you need is within you. All support, energy etc is within you. You dont require any outside support to become No. 1. When you can become No. 1 in north india without any support, why should you ask for others support to be No. 1 in the world.

    Only injured people need support. You are hale and healthy. JUST DO IT!

    I will be the happiest person to see an indian company being no1 on the fortune 500 list. I am also sure each and every person with whom you are discussing here and the entire India will be proud to have a CHUMBER who worked for liberating dalits.

  97. SanJam said

    CHUMBER,,, YOU JUST PROVED THAT AMBEDKAR WAS A RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST,,,, TAKE THAT!

    AMBEDKAR MARRIED TO PROVE A POINT,,, NOT OUT OF LOVE,, NOR OUT OF COMMITMENT… THATS WHAT CHUMBER CLAIMED,,, SO IT MEANS,,,
    AMBEDKAR WAS A RAPIST,,, AS HE MARRIED WITH MALEFIDE INTENTIONS TO JUST PENETRATE SOMEONE FROM AN ALLEGED UPPER CASTE,, AS AMBEDKAR’S EGO WAS CRUSHED WHEN A FILE WAS THROWN AT HIM..

    THANK GOD,, A MONKEY DIDNT THROW A FILE AT HIM,,, THEN THE FATHER OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION WOULD HAVE MARRIED AN APE!
    UUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH….. WHAT A YUKKYY THOUGHT!

    AND ONE MORE THING,,,,
    DID YOUR BLOODY AMBEDKAR TELL YOU TO BEG FOR EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT YOUR GENERATIONS?
    THATS HOW HE WANTED TO MAKE YOU SELF-SUFFICIENT?
    BELIEVE ME,,, HE WAS AN APE!

  98. SanJam said

    “mesquiteice” :
    thats the most appropriate id for the persistence and the perseverance that you have displayed!
    hats off!

  99. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. MESQUITEICE ! I BEING A SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON WILL GIVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE VAIDIK ABUSERS THAT THE WORLD WILL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE WELL !!!!!

    mesquiteice said,
    October 10, 2008 @ 5:05 am

    Chumber,
    Also whatever you need is within you. All support, energy etc is within you. You dont require any outside support to become No. 1. When you can become No. 1 in north india without any support, why should you ask for others support to be No. 1 in the world.

  100. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I BEING A SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON WILL GIVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE VAIDIK ABUSERS THAT THE WORLD WILL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE WELL !!!!!

    mesquiteice said,
    October 10, 2008 @ 5:05 am

    Chumber,
    Also whatever you need is within you. All support, energy etc is within you. You dont require any outside support to become No. 1. When you can become No. 1 in north india without any support, why should you ask for others support to be No. 1 in the world.

  101. Karthikeyan said

    Mesquitice Ji,
    All were right from you, but I have to clarify you that I have not abused any one, be Chumber Ji or other, and I haven’t expressed any apology. I only requested the comment writers not to be overly unkind to him. Neither did HH express any apology. You may read again my comments for clarity.

  102. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE JUDGE THE BENT OF MIND OF AN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK ABUSER !!!!!

    SanJam said,
    October 11, 2008 @ 9:18 pm

    CHUMBER,,, YOU JUST PROVED THAT AMBEDKAR WAS A RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST,,,, TAKE THAT!

    AMBEDKAR MARRIED TO PROVE A POINT,,, NOT OUT OF LOVE,, NOR OUT OF COMMITMENT… THATS WHAT CHUMBER CLAIMED,,, SO IT MEANS,,,
    AMBEDKAR WAS A RAPIST,,, AS HE MARRIED WITH MALEFIDE INTENTIONS TO JUST PENETRATE SOMEONE FROM AN ALLEGED UPPER CASTE,, AS AMBEDKAR’S EGO WAS CRUSHED WHEN A FILE WAS THROWN AT HIM..

    THANK GOD,, A MONKEY DIDNT THROW A FILE AT HIM,,, THEN THE FATHER OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION WOULD HAVE MARRIED AN APE!
    UUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH….. WHAT A YUKKYY THOUGHT!

    AND ONE MORE THING,,,,
    DID YOUR BLOODY AMBEDKAR TELL YOU TO BEG FOR EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT YOUR GENERATIONS?
    THATS HOW HE WANTED TO MAKE YOU SELF-SUFFICIENT?
    BELIEVE ME,,, HE WAS AN APE!

  103. mesquiteice said

    Karthikeyan,

    Thanks for the clarification and sorry if my words have given you a diiferent impression.

    I said “Please dont forget that you abused karthikeyan and HH so much to start with. Now you are reaping the rewards”

    I did not say that you or HH abused Chumber.

    The reason for this comment was that Chumberji felt that vaidik people are abusing him and therefore that reply.

  104. hindushemhappy said

    Mesquiteice,

    This bozo Chumber claimed that since I apologized that is why he did not file a case on me (dumedbkar lies for politician image). He dug too deep asking for trouble. He is mad alright.

    Now the tables have turned. I already got 40+ signatures to petition. Am looking for a way to do an online petition for more signatures. There is monetary support from unexpected places. I certianly want to drag this man and this blog owner to court.

    Chumber apparently does not know the difference between personal abuse and abuse that insults sentiments. He will learn in court. He will understand things clearly when he broods over all this in jail.

  105. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    You said “MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?-C . L. CHUMBER

    My answer: Simple. 1) Nobody believes in stories of hatered and fault finding
    2) We respect others beliefs. We dont want disturb them
    3) We dont want to hate each other based on stories

    By the way the thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people.

    There are stories that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old!.

    Are you telling that we should talk bad about the prophet based on a false story like the above. You should be ashamed to talk bad about the prophet because all Muslims believe that Muhammad was sinless in the sense of transmitting the revelation.

    I would rather believe that he was a good person rather than a bad person, because there are so many people who believe he is good. One insane guy writing bad things cannot defeat the faith of all our muslim brothers and sisters.

  106. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I AM READY TO DARE CHALLENGE THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND INVENTORS OF THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! I AM READY TO DRINK A BOWL OF POISON LIKE SOCRATE BUT I WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE BARBARIAN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS !!!!! THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLWERS WILL BE FOUGHT IN THE COURTS ACCORDING TO THE DR. AMBAWDEKAR @ DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !!!! ALL HINDU SCRIPTURES ARE READY FOR REFERENCES .A PERSON WHO HAVE NOT ONE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS IS GOING TO FILE A CASE . HE HAS PUBLISHED MY TWO EMAILS ADDRESSES IN THIS BLOG . BUT HE DID NOT DARE TO PUBLISH HIS OWN EMAIL ADRESSES IN THIS BLOG .COME ON !!!!!

    hindushemhappy said,
    October 14, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    If you and the owner of this blog do not give your name and address within the next 3 days, then a FIR will be filed against you for sedition, anti-Indian government stand, hurting religious sentiments and inciting communal divide.
    If we cannot find this blog’s owner / writer, then you Chumber will face charges for both of you together.

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-2416

  107. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    Chumber Ji,
    Rama need not have to prove his purity because he was in the company of his brothers/friends/sages all the time in exile. But Sita was in the forcible possession of lustful wicked demon. She was in the midst of all stranger men for several years. So she was required to prove her purity. Clear?
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  108. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    congrats on your improvement.

    You have now started to see good things in a person who the whole world feels to be bad?

    You have now understood that nobody is bad and even bad people are good.

    I like this and is appreciated.

  109. hindushemhappy said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !
    —————–

    Chumber,

    You can do a talk marathon in court. Vent all your research in the Ramayana there. God save the poor judge 😉

    Just be a gooood boy. Give your address. Give this blog owner’s name and address.

  110. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji, I give you one assurance. Ask one question in one post in case the question is directed to me. I will answer it for sure in the same post. I cannot keep on posting same answers everywhere you ask because I wish to do some useful work. I have answered you in some other place. It is unfair to post same questions in different pages and giving the readers the impression that it was left unanswered. This is another example of Chumberwad.

  111. SanJam said

    hindushemhappy!
    you are the man!
    you ARE the MAN!
    chumber must be sobbing like a school girl!!
    hahahahawhahwahwawhhawhawhahaw

  112. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR.RAJIV ! WHAT WILL YOU DO ,IF SOMEONE KILL YOUR SON ? ? ? ? ?

    Rajiv said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:45 am

    You said – a Dalit gets 50 percent “considering all the oppression that has happened to the dalits ssince the last 5000 years” this is as good as 95 %.
    MY ANSWER IS ;- WHY NOT THE BRAHMINS SPEAK AGAINST THE ALMOST 100% SCs IN FOURTH CLASS , SWEEPER PROFESSION ? CAN BRAHMIN COMPETETE IN MANUAL WORK WITH ABORIGINAL iNDIANS ? THERE SHOULD BE GOVT. SCHOOL NO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND NO TUTION FOR EQUTY EDUCATION .
    ( 2 ) So you basically want to oppress the present general cast people’s poor children for another 5000 years (through discrimination by reservation) ??
    MY ANSWER IS ;- IS RESERVATION A DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ANY CASTE / VARNA GROUP ? ARE POOR OF GENERAL CATAGORIES ARE BANNED FOR GOVT. JOBS .WE MAY IMPLEMENT THE CREAMY LAYER CLASS ALSO IN THE GENERAL SEATS TO BENEFIT THE POOR OF GENERAL CATAGORIES !!!!!
    ( 3 )Historically what was happening with Dalits was definitely wrong if it’s true, but give me the honest answer of one simple question –

    Let’s say your father has murdered someone in past, would it be ok if somebody murders YOU in revenge of what your father did ??
    MY ANSWER IS ;- WE ARE OF THE OPINION THAT THE BAD PAST MUST BE BURIED WITH EVIL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS OF THE PAST !!!!! BUT THE WORSHIPERS OF EVIL GODS ABUSE US . WHY ? WE ARE NOT THREATENIG TO FINISH ANYBODY .give me the honest answer of one simple question –
    MR.RAJIV ! WHAT WILL YOU DO ,IF SOMEONE KILL YOUR SON ? ? ? ? ?

  113. C . L . CHUMBER said

    CHUMBER IS NOT SOBBING LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL ! CHUMBER IS FIGHTING AGAINST THE RAPIST EVIL GODS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS !!!!!M/S SANJAMS AND HAPPY HINDUS ARE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU ABUSERS !!!!!

    SanJam said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:47 pm

    hindushemhappy!
    you are the man!
    you ARE the MAN!
    chumber must be sobbing like a school girl!!
    hahahahawhahwahwawhhawhawhahaw

  114. C . L . CHUMBER said

    RESPECTED KARTHIKEYAN JI ! IT IS UNFAIR TO PROTECT THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS GIVING THE READERS IMPRESSION THAT I AM AGAINST ANY SPECIFIC RELIGION . YOUR GOOD SELF DID NOT APPLAUDED RAVNA FOR NOT RAPING MATA SITA IN HIS CUSTODY . THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MODERN MANUWAD !!!!!
    Karthikeyan said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

    Chumber Ji, I give you one assurance. Ask one question in one post in case the question is directed to me. I will answer it for sure in the same post. I cannot keep on posting same answers everywhere you ask because I wish to do some useful work. I have answered you in some other place. It is unfair to post same questions in different pages and giving the readers the impression that it was left unanswered. This is another example of Chumberwad.

  115. C . L . CHUMBER said

    INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU ABUSER MR. SANJAM SAID –
    ” CHUMBER , LAKSHMAN DIDN`T GET HIS WIFE ALONG SO THAT HE COULD SCREW YOUR MUM OR SISTERS .”
    ACTUALLY VAIDIK CULTURE IS AGAINST WOMEN AND EVEN IT RECOGNIZES THE RAPISTS AS THEIR GODS !!!!!

    SanJam said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:39 pm

    chumber,
    lakshman didnt get his wife along so that he could screw your mum or sisters!
    got it?
    if you havent, you gotta do some serious questioning around ur den,,, or also check out some ripped clits///
    tada
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-2677

  116. Karthikeyan said

    Sita protected herself Chumber Ji, with grass and Agni. Ravana had captured so many women from various worlds. The greatness of Hindu scriptures is that it does not use uncultured words.

  117. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THEN SITA COULD PROTECT HERSELF FROM FOREST TO SRI LANKA AND AYODYA TO FOREST !!!!!

    Karthikeyan said,

    October 19, 2008 @ 2:19 pm

    Sita protected herself Chumber Ji, with grass and Agni.

  118. C . L . CHUMBER said

    M/S INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HAPPY HINDUS AND THEIR SUPPORTES !
    ( PLEASE DO NOT ERASE ! )
    I CONDEM EVERY RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST SINCE PRIMITIVE PERIOD TO TILL DATE . HAVE YOU DARING SPIRIT TO ADMIT AND CONDEMN THAT BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ?

    Lavanya said,
    October 19, 2008 @ 10:36 am

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !- C. L. CHUMBER
    ——–

    That is why i told you to read the Ramayan – original Valmiki version – before coming to court.

    ( 1 ) Ravana had raped a girl equal to his daughter-in-law. She comitted sucide. Before dying she cursed Ravan that if he raped anyone ever again, he wud loose all his heads (means, lose all buddhi, he had buddhi equal to 10 men) and become burned to ashes (become reduced to a pauper). So, Ravan did not rape anybody after that curse.
    MY VIEWS : – I CONDEM EVERY RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST SINCE PRIMITIVE PERIOD TO TILL DATE . HAVE YOU DARING SPIRIT TO ADMIT AND CONDEMN THAT BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ? YOU PEOPLE SAID THAT AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS .YOU PEOPLE SAID THAT CHUMBER IS RAPIST .WHAT IS YOUR BENT OF MIND ? YOU ARE NOT IDEAL CHILDREN OF YOUR PARENTS ! IS IT NOT TRUE ?
    (2) Ravan kept threatening and tempting Sita that he is more handsome and king of a bigger kingdom than Ram. When ever he felt like forcing himself on Sita, he felt headache and got reminded of the curse. Then he stopped. He was selfish for power. He could not rape.
    MY VIEWS : – WHY NOT RAMA FELT HEADACHE WHEN HE BANISHED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA ? WHY NOT LAKSHMAN FELT HEADACHE WHEN HE LEFT HER IN FOREST ALONE ?
    ( 3 ) Ravan threatend Sita just like you threatened people with your lies here. You said if people worshipped gods, they must spend time behind bars because govt has banned gods?
    MY VIEWS :- YOU ARE MISQUOTING AGAIN AND AGAIN TO WASTE OUR TIME AND ENERGY . I WROTE THAT RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM ARE ILLEGAL AND HENCE THE WORSHIPRES , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ARE ILLEGAL AND CAN BE PUT BEHIND BARS !!!!! IS IT NOT TRUE ?
    ( 4 )But lies, threats, temptations, etc never work. And you will have to find yourself without your kingdom, in an asylum.
    MY VIEWS : -WHICH LIES ? WHICH THREATS ? DO YOUR DUTY . BE GENTLE . BE RATIONAL . DO NOT BE ABUSER . BURN THE EFFIGIES OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FSCIST EVIL GODS IF YOU ARE REALLY AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS YOU CLAIMED EARLIER !!!!!
    ( 5 ) But anyway, It is good that you are seeing a ‘BRAHMIN’ as a good man. Thankyou. Ravan was a brahmin.
    MY VIEWS ARE : – RAVAN WAS NEITHER BRAHMIN NOR WORSHIPER OF EVIL GODS BRAHMA AND VISHANU !!!!!
    —————-

    M/S. HAPPY HINDUS !
    THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL THE BANNING OF WORSHIPING OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU EVIL GODS !!!!!
    LET US FIGHT AGAINST THESE EVILS !!!!!
    YOU ARE MY FAST FRIEND WHO IS GOING TO REGISTER FIR AGAINST ME OR SENDING A LEGAL NOTICE TO ME . THIS WILL RECORD YOUR NAME IN THE HISTORY OF WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    I MAY BE THE VICTIM OR WINNER OF THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU GODS BUT MY COUNTRY WILL DEVELOP MENTALLY DURING THIS AND AFTER WAR !!!!!
    MAY OUR WAR BE FRUITFUL FOR HUMANITY !!!!! – C.L.CHUMBER
    ————

    ( 1 ) Chumber, YOU are the evil. Not only me, YOU are the evil that EVERYONE if going to fight.
    MY ANSWER IS ; – I AM NOT THE EVIL .EVILS ARE THOSE WHO WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE EVIL GODS AND EVILS .
    ( 2 )YOU are the mullah (or prove it wrong). You have to answer this:
    Do you find Islam perfect? Do you support that a 54-year old man must consummate marriage with a 9-year old girl? That is not rape?
    MY ANSWER IS : – I FIND THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU RELIGION WORST HAVING RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND EVIL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! I HAVE NOT STUDIED ISLAM .YOU SAY THAT HAZRAT MOHAMMAD MARRIED AISHA .YOU MAY SEARCH THE GOOGLE AND YAHOO RESEARCHES FOR DETAIL ON ” THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ” . YOU MAY CONSULT THE IPC FOR RAPE . FIRST YOU CONDEMN THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS . WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING EVIL GODS AND ABUSE ME ? THE MORE AND MORE YOU PEOPLE ABUSE ME , THE MORE AND MORE YOU PEOPLE CREATE ENIMITY . BE RATIONAL . IN AN OBITURY GATHERING IN MEMORY OF MR. AJIT CHAND NIMTA ,A PROMINENT WRITER OF PUNJABI AT DR. AMBEDKAR BHAWAN , JALANDHAR CITY ON 19TH OCTOBER , 2008 , I REQUESTED THE PEOPLE TO VISIT THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com and http://www.ambedkartimes.com for knowledge sake .
    ( 3 ) Why are dumb mullahs like you hell bent on proving Hindu Gods as rapists? Answer: It is because Islam cannot prove that Muhammad did not Rape Ayesha. Or should I give more instances of your prophet’s acts and that of his men?
    MY VIEWS ARE :- I AM NEITHER MULLAH NOR PANDIT/BRAHMIN ! I AM PROVING INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS ON THE BASIS OF THEIR SCRIPTURES BECAUSE EVIL PERSONS CANNOT BE IDEALS FOR A COUNTRY AND THE WELL CULTURED SOCIETY .WE HAVE TO BURY THE EVIL PAST TO CREATE A NEW EGALITARIAN SOCIETY IN A MODERN WORLD!!!!!
    ( 4 ) Why are you not raising voice against Ashrafi muslims who do NOT treat dalit AshLafi muslims equally? Do Ashrafi muslims marry dalit muslims?
    MY VIEWS ARE : – WHY NOT YOU CO-OPERATE AND CO-ORDINATE TO MAKE ATLEAST INDIA FREE FROM INJUSTICE ? WHY ARE YOU ABUSING ME ?
    ( 5 ) Do rich people marry poor people only for ‘caste’ without love? Will any such marriage last?
    MY VIEWS : – FIRST YOU CONDEMN THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS , THEN YOU RASE NEXT QUESTIONS ? WHY ARE YOU AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AND WORSHIP RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ? DO ANY ONE HATE THE AIDS DESEASE AND READY TO HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH AN AIDS INFECTED PATIENT ?
    I HAVE SUPPORTED THE INTERCASTE MARRIAGES AND YOU OPPOSED AND ABUSED ME ! WHY ?
    ( 6 )Do you know how many Christians support Hindus against mullahs, Chumber? You will be amazed Chumber, just amazed. You asked for it.
    MY VIEWS ARE : – DID CHRISTIANS SUPPORTED INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS`RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AND CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ?
    ( 6 )CHUMBER,
    Just give me your address. Right here on this blog. Do not talk another single word without your address. First your address. Then this blog owner’s name and address. Then talk. Otherwise, just keep your lips sealed.
    lavanya said,
    MY ANSWER IS : -PLEASE READ FOR DETAIL ANSWER ALREADY GIVEN . PLEASE DON`T REPEAT .https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-2791″ C . L . CHUMBER said,(October 19, 2008 @ 7:33 pm ) I WILL NOT HIRE ANY ADVOCATE .I WILL DISCUSS PERSONALLY . YOU MAY HIRE ADVOCATES .COME ON ! “
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/brahmin-deception-through-dalai-lama-part-1/#comment-2796

  119. mesquiteice said

    DONT BE RAC*ST. Practice what you preach
    Chumber,
    Cant you ever call people by names. Is it that you address every body only based on caste and religion.

    Sanjam has already said that he is not a brahmin. What is your basis of calling him and Aryan/Vaidik etc. Shall I call you Mullah Chumber or muslim chumber. cant you not call him “SANJAM”. My point is that if you have a problem with sanjam, reply to him if you can. Dont blame Indo-Aryan, vaidik or hindu brothers and sisters.

    What should you abuse us for your problems with sanjam.

    Please allow people to come out of caste system. dont propogate caste system

    Why are you forcing people to believe in your false stories where all you want to do is talk things which will create pain for others and nonsensetical beliefs which have no reason whatsoever and all you do is keep repeating 3 words which outrage the sentiments of Hindus and talk bad things which outrage the modesty of women.

    Also please note that Sanjam only spoke about you but why are you talking about vaidik culture. You reply to sanjam.

    Just leave seetha out of your stories. Let her be happy. By talking things about seetha you are making her look more miserable. I had more respect for seeta before you i read you comments. Who are you to certify her chastity. Arent you ashamed to speak like this, when you also have mother and sisters.

    We respect women more than you do. You are the one who will marry women for caste.

  120. C . L. CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ THE E-ABUSIVE DIALOGUE OF THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERERS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU EVIL GODS .

    lavanya said,
    October 20, 2008 @ 2:05 pm

    M/S HAPPY HINDUS ! WILL LAKSHMAN RAPE MY MOTHER AND SISTERS? ? ? ? ?
    ————-

    Sanjam wrote that. You ask him. Do not ask me.

    MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYA ! WILL YOUR GOD LAKSHMAN WHO WAS HALF INCARNATION OF THE RAPIST VISHANU ( PLEASE READ PADAM PURAN , DISTT. JALANDHAR( PUNJAB ) GAZETEER AND MOVIE TULSI VIVAH FOR REFERENCE ) WILL INCARNATE TO RAPE C.L.CHUMBER`S MOTHER AND SISTERS TO PROOVE MY RESEARCH THAT YOUR INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK GODS ARE THE RAPISTS , RAPISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!! WILL YOU INVITE NEW LAKSHMAN IN YOUR FAMILY OR DISCARD HIM AND HAND OVER TO THE POLICE ? ? ? ? ?

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/aishwarya-rai-a-victim-of-brahmin-conspiracy/

    • Raju Iyer said

      Can somebody tell me where can i get this movie Tulsi Vivah……..I am fed up with this bastard mentioning this in every other post. I have decided to see that movie and test my patience………. Chootiya bastard this Chumber is……..

  121. SanJam said

    Here’s a list of Chumber’s standard answers:

    (its easy to note that he uses the old copy+paste technique).

    THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU RELIGION WORST HAVING RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND EVIL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM

    WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL THE BANNING OF WORSHIPING OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU EVIL GODS

    KING RAMA KILLED SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK AT SHAMBUK TEK

    ODYA`S KING RAM MURDERED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK UNDER BRAHMANS`INSTRUCTIONS ,READ UTTAR KAND CHAPTER OF VALMIKI RAMAYNA ,PARSHURAM AND HIS BARBARIAN BRAHMANS KILLED KSHATTRIYAS 21 GENERATION

    VALMIKI STOOD IN SUPPORT OF SITA AND HIS PUPILS LAV, KUSH DEFEATED KING RAMA WHO BANISHED THEIRS PIOUS AND INNOCENT MOTHER SITA .

    MORE FICTITIOUS NAMED WORSHIPER , DEFENDER AND GLORIFIERER OF RAPIST VISHANU ( RAPED WITH MATA VARINDA W/O,BHAGWAN JALANDHAR ,READ HINDUS` PADAM PURAN , PUNJAB GOVT.`S DISTT. JALANDHAR GAZETEER AND WATCH MOVIE TULSI-VIVAH ! )

  122. OK, so lets get back to the subject of the original post.

    The original posting reeks of what I call Duryodhana Complex. It portrays one who is unhappy with what he has and wants what is not his and is willing to go to any lengths to grab it. This is endemic in Hindustan.

    There is a joke about crabs being exported from Hindustan in containers without lids. When asked why, the peron says, these are Hindustani crabs, each one is busy bringing down the one above it and so you don’t need a lid.

    As Hindustani’s we should all be proud that desi men and women are doing so well in the US.

    And while on this subject…..

    In Hindustan the term – Tatas and Birlas were synonymous with big industry. And as you all are aware Tatas are Parsis and Birlas are Marwari’s. I can hardly name any traditional business that was started and headed by a Brahmin. Brahmins are not particularly known for their business accumen. The Brahmins pursued education and had a disdain for dandha and the businessman. The businessman pursued money. Often you would see a Brahmin “starve” rather than be a “Panwalla” or a “Dhobiwalla” or a “Dhabawalla” or any “walla” for that matter. Because of their education, their capability AND their loyalty, a number of “South Indian Brahmins” suceeded in Mumbai and rose to executive level positions. This if you remember earned them the ire of the Shiva Sena who many years ago mounted an “Anti-Southi” agitation. Now the Monkey Sena has found other scapegoats.

    A businessman once said to me that, “Money can buy the Best Brains”. And so they did. It just so hapened that the “supply” of brains happened to be Brahmins. There are many instances of educated Dalits doing extremenly well.

    Enter the Information Age, where it requires understanding of complex issues, excellent people and political skills to be successful in certain Industry Segments… Finance and IT sectors being two of them. It was easier for the “Brainy” to acquire Biz skills and so you have a number of educated people become successful.

    So rather than scream and shout about people who are successful, emulate what it takes to get there. Somebody said Hindustan is a Democracy not a Meritocracy. But for merit and intelligence, this country would not be anywhere it is today.

  123. hindushemhappy said

    Must watch Video for Chumber and Dalitnation:

    Who are you supporting?

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

  124. venksamuk said

    Sir Realist,

    Lovely post. Someone rich told me, it takes no brains to make money…sometime you just inherit it.

    Years ago, at an MBA interview (that i never joined), one prof asked me ‘are you a brahmin’. I was literally shocked at the direct question, that too in front of other people. A director of that management institute happened to be a reddy, related to someone known…i mentioned to him casually that one of his Profs asked me such a question – he broke into a smile of amusement and said ‘maybe u did very well, or he wud never ask like that’. I was shocked even more at his attitude..and during our argument, he went on to explain…said ‘our job is not to educate ourselves, it is to make money, a brahmin delights in education, but we delight in money, a brahmin’s ego gets satisfied with intellectual things, our ego gets satisfied with money because that is what we measure our self-worth with – just money, to make money you do not need to have brains…he quoted 3-4 gujrati names (with BComs or BAs) running IT or allied companies employing the typical tambram it (sometimes iit) graduates on the technical side and anothers for the numbers, accounts side….

    Sometime i feel, it may not be easy to emulate certain things……anyways, there are just too many indians of diverse kinds, that seem to have achieved too many things, in too many diff areas; to ever be seperated based on caste, esp when this whole caste thing has been so fluid…lets look forward to democracy based on meritocracy..cheers.

  125. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WHAT IS WRONG IN MY STANDARD ANSWERS ? ? ? ? ? PLEASE ELABORATE IT !

    SanJam said,
    October 22, 2008 @ 11:59 am

    Here’s a list of Chumber’s standard answers:

  126. mesquiteice said

    Only answering machines which have no brains will give standard answers.

    Or may be children who mug up what is given in the guide will also give standard answers.

    Nevertheless, The point is that when you THINK you will not give standard answers.

  127. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I AM C . L . CHuMBER NOT C . L . CHaMBER !!!!!.
    I DO NOT KNOW WHO IS C.L . CHaMBER .

    SlimKirby Plays Custom Stages: “DKC2: C. L. Chamber”
    http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=859HlfdAdfM&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=C.L+CHUMBER+&emb=1

    Hindushemhappy said,
    November 6, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
    Must watch Video for Chumber and Dalitnation:
    Who are you supporting?
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

  128. C.L .CHUMBER said

    ARE SANJAM AND MESQUEITCE TWO SIDES OF A MANUWADI COIN ? ? ? ? ?
    SANJAM IS PERFECT IN ABUSING AND MESQUEITCE BOASTS TO BE MODERATE AND RATIONAL !!!!!
    WHY NOT SANJAM ANSWERS ? WHY MESQUEITCE ANSWERS ?

    C.L .CHUMBER said,
    November 7, 2008 @ 7:27 am

    WHAT IS WRONG IN MY STANDARD ANSWERS ? ? ? ? ? PLEASE ELABORATE IT !

    SanJam said,
    October 22, 2008 @ 11:59 am

    Here’s a list of Chumber’s standard answers:

    – – –
    Mesquiteice said,
    November 8, 2008 @ 6:41 am

    Only answering machines which have no brains will give standard answers.
    Or may be children who mug up what is given in the guide will also give standard answers.
    Nevertheless, The point is that when you THINK you will not give standard answers.

  129. lavanyamura said

    ARE SANJAM AND MESQUEITCE TWO SIDES OF A MANUWADI COIN ? ? ? ? ?
    SANJAM IS PERFECT IN ABUSING AND MESQUEITCE BOASTS TO BE MODERATE AND RATIONAL !!!!!
    WHY NOT SANJAM ANSWERS ? WHY MESQUEITCE ANSWERS ?
    —————–

    Brainless idiots who label everyone as ‘M/s Happy Hindus’ need not be bothered about who answers and who does not.

    Anybody can answer for a brainless idiot like you who calls everyone here as happy hindus..

  130. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    You did not address your post to sanjam. You simply screamed (in bold letters) asking what is wrong with standard answers.

    I therefore explained what is wrong. Be happy that you now know what is wrong with standard anwers

  131. C.L .CHUMBER said

    IN A FEW DAYS , I WILL POST ” HOW VISHANU RAPED INNOCENT AND PIOUS ADI-MATA VARINDA W/O ADI-MAHABHAGWAN JALANDHAR ” WHOSE CAPITAL WAS AT JALANDHAR NOW A DISTRICT AND DIVISIONAL HEAD QUARTER IN PUNJAB STATE . ( FROM THE DISTRICT JALANDHAR GAZETEER , PUNJAB GOVT.)

  132. Dr. M.R.Satish Rao said

    Dear Friends,
    I have been following the conversations here for some time.
    As a clinical psychaitrist working as a registrar in Manchester NHS hospital, I can clearly pronounce that Mr C.L.Chumber has gone insane based on the evidence available through his posts. He needs help and compassion. I wish to ask the people here if they know the family members of Mr C.L.Chumber please tell them to admit him to a good psychatric ward. It is never too late. C.L. Chumber is in the middle stage of madness and his constant obsession with words like rape etc and continous repitition of the same themes in his posts clearly prove his insanity. Compunded to this Mr Chumber is also getting older and senile dementia has set in. If left untreated Mr Chumber can go into a permanent state of mental hallucination and madness. Mr Chumber also has lost most of his reasoning and cannot carry on intelligible conversations with people. Hence I request anyone here if you know the family members of Mr Chumber, please contact them and tell them about his sorry condition. He needs immediate treatment and confinement in a psychaitric ward. He also needs to stay away from computers and internet for some time as he is inclined to start his mental recording of rapism, fascism etc.

    The treatment
    Chumber should not be allowed to read books which talk of hatred and violence. he should instead be given to read romantic literature and poems of Shakesphere, Wordsworth, Kalidasa etc. No political books to Chumber. As a doctor I would have preferred him not to read at all but that is difficult as Chumber reads a lot of books and very habituated to reading. Reading is a good habit but in some cases like Mr Chumber it can lead to madness. He should stay away from books related to Hinduism, religion in general, Buddhism, Ramayana, Puranas, Ambedkar, Dalits etc. He can read murder mysteries and science fiction and watch movies on these subjects.
    He should also stop reading the many newspapers he reads everyday. He is unable to handle and digest the news and current affairs information.
    Chumber should practise watching cartoon movies like donald duck, tom and jerry etc. This will relax his stressed brain cells and CNS.
    Chumber should follow a strict regimen of exercises like walking, yoga, pranayama.
    Apart from ingesting the prescribed Benzodiapines like valium chumber should exercise caution in his dietary habits.
    Chumber should also try to learn some musical instrument like violin, piano, table. It can give him a lot of relief.
    Gardening for few hours a day is also a good activity for the patient.

    Mr C.L. Chumber has lead a responsible life and raised a good and healthy family. It would be unjust that at his old age he should fall prey to compulsive obsessive insanity. But with good treatment Chumber can spend his old age in a good quality lifestyle and peace.

    Thanks.
    Dr M.R.Satish Rao
    Senior Registrar
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K

  133. C.L .CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMAN COMMUNITY WHICH COULD NOT PRODUCED EVEN A SINGLE MERITORIOUS DOCTOR TO OPERATE A BRAHMAN MR. VAJPAYEE , NOW PRODUCED / HIRED A MERITORIOUS DOCTOR M.R.Satish Rao , Senior Registrar ,
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K WHO IS A ADDICTED FOLLOWER , DEFENDER OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    M/S HAPPY HINDUS LOST THE E-DIALOGUE AND THREATS TO LEGAL WAR INCLUDING ONE SIDE VAIDIK ABUSIVE WAR ! NOW THEY STARTED THE MEDICAL WAR .THEY ALSO WILL LOST THIS WAR !!!!! OUR ULTIMATE AIM IS TO BAN WORSHIPING THE FALSE GODS , LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE WORSHIPERS OF FALSE GODS AND CONVERT THE FALSE RELIGIOUS PLACES INTO THE HOSPITALS , SCHOOLS , OLD AGE CENTRES , VOCATIONAL EDUCATION CENTRES SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY BENEFIT .

  134. C.L .CHUMBER said

    M/S HAPPY HINDUS NEED NOT TO BOTHER FOR ME , I AM QUITE WELL !!!!!

    THEY SHOULD WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THEIR UNETHICAL GODS SO THAT THEIR DOCTORS MAY DECLARE THEM MENTALLY SOUND !!!!!

    Mesquiteice said,
    November 12, 2008 @ 9:35 am

    Dear Dr. Rao,

    I do feel pity for this man. Hopefully someone from Chumber’s family will see it.

    Thanks

  135. lavanyamura said

    Mr.Idiot,

    Can you please stop calling everyone as happy hindus.

    Because of you dumbhead, i have stopped using it, since you are referring to anyone who posts anything here as happy hindus.

    I do not think mesquiteice likes to be called happy hindu. Satish Rao is a medical doctor (did he say he is a hindu ?).

    Dilip is atheist. He cannot be called happy hindus. Sanjam is also atheist, not hindu.

    But you crank are calling everybody the same. Or maybe i should not be asking a madman any more questions.

    Chumber, do you know mad people NEVER accept they are mad. Only normal people will accept that they are changable, and will change for the better. Only mad people never change.

  136. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Good to hear that you are well

  137. C.L .CHUMBER said

    MESQUITEICE !
    SORRY TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL IN A SICK COMPANY AND DO NOT DISCARD THE EVIL GODS AND EVIL FOLLOWERS !!!!!

  138. C.L .CHUMBER said

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE TO DR. M.R.SATISH RAO,SENIOR REGISTRAR ,OLD CLAPHAM HOSPITAL,MANCHESTER,UK AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!

    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND DR.Dr M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K TO HIM WHETHER HE HAD WRITTEN ACTUALLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !

    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE TO DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

  139. C.L .CHUMBER said

    ALL ARE IN THE COMPANY WHICH FOLLOW, DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCISTS INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK GODS !!!!!
    YOU MAY ABUSE AS YOU LIKE FOR WHICH YOUR BARBARIAN COMMUNITY HAVE TO PAY FOR CENTURIES !!!!!

    YOUR COMMUNITY WILL BE AGAIN A NOMADIC COMMUNITY WHICH ABUSE THOSE WHO TELL YOUR WRONGS TO AMEND !!!!! BUT YOU ARE NOT CHANGEABLES !!!!!

    NOW I WILL TELL OUR PEOPLE MORE AND MORE ABOUT YOUR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .

    lavanyamura said,
    November 12, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

    Mr.Idiot,
    Can you please stop calling everyone as happy hindus.
    Because of you dumbhead, i have stopped using it, since you are referring to anyone who posts anything here as happy hindus.
    I do not think mesquiteice likes to be called happy hindu. Satish Rao is a medical doctor (did he say he is a hindu ?).

    Dilip is atheist. He cannot be called happy hindus. Sanjam is also atheist, not hindu.

    But you crank are calling everybody the same. Or maybe i should not be asking a madman any more questions.

    Chumber, do you know mad people NEVER accept they are mad. Only normal people will accept that they are changable, and will change for the better. Only mad people never change.

  140. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WILL THE FOLLOWERS OF RAVAN START TO CELEBRATE SITA-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ?

    WHY ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST GOD CELEBRATE TULSI-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ?

    IN HINDU TEXTS , THOSE WHO HAVE RAPED HAVE ONLY BEEN BURNED TO ASHES !!!!! -MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) .

    BUT THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK BRAHMAN HINDU LADIES CELEBRATED THE TULASI-VIVAH CELEBRATIONS EVERYWHERE !!!!! ( THE HINDU GOD VISHANU RAPED WITH TULASI @ VARINDA W/O ADI-MAHAGURU JALANDHAR . REF. THE PADAM PURAN , TULSI-VIVAH MOOVIE OF DARA ACTOR AND DISTT. JALANDHAR ( PUNJAB ) GAZETEER ! ) .

    WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE FOLLOWERS OF RAVNA START TO CELEBRATE SITA-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ? HINDU GOD RAM NEVER CONSIDERED SITA AS PURE EVEN SHE WAS ESTABLISHED PURE BY THE AGANI-PRIKSHA ! HE EVEN THEN BANISHED HER ON THIS CHARGE .HE EVEN ASKED SITA ABOUT HIS PURITY IN THE VALMIKI ASHRAM . THE INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA HAD TO COMMIT SUICIDE TO GET RID OF RAM`S BASELESS BLAMES

  141. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    You said” SORRY TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL IN A SICK COMPANY AND DO NOT DISCARD THE EVIL GODS AND EVIL FOLLOWERS”

    Please explain what according to you is evil. also you have to prove what you say because of the following:

    You said”PERIYAR EV RAMASAMI NAICKER WAS ALSO AN EX CONGRESS LEADER !!!!!”

    This itself shows that you have no regard for truth. Please read and verify the things before you say anything.

    EVR Periayar was not a politician nor was he member of any political party. He was a reformist/humanist. In fact he was against political parties because they were using caste as a wepon to fight each other.

    In fact you have yourself told me in one of your earlier posts that congress is a manuwadi party. Cant you even think as to how a person like periyar would support a manuwadi party.

    PLEASE STOP YOUR LIES. HEREAFTER WE WILL NOT BELIEVE YOU UNTIL YOU PROVE EACH OF YOUR WORDS.

    I believed you because i thought that you will not lie like this. Please dont lie

    According to me your indulgence in other faith is evil.

  142. C . L . CHUMBER said

    SAHIB KANSHI RAM USED TO SAY THAT THE MANUWADIS MAY UNITE TO COUNTER US POLITICALLY AND EVEN MIGHT MISUSE THE JUDICIARY AND ARMY !!!!!

    TODAY`S NEWS PAPERS PUBLISHED THE VIEWS OF MR. KULKARANI , A CONFIDENT OF MR. L . K . ADVANI AND RSS`S REPRESENTATIVE IN THE BJP . HE SAID THAT BJP IS READY TO CO-OPERATE THE CONGRESS TO FORM THE UNION GOVERNMENT !
    THERE IS ANOTHER NEWS IN SOME PAPERS INCLUDING THE DAINIK BHASKAR , JALANDHAR CITY THAT THE INDUSTRIALISTS ARE EAGER TO SEE THE CONGRESS OR BJP UNION GOVERNMENT ! WHY ?

    WE ALREADY PROCLAIMED THAT THERE WILL BE A NON-BJP OR OR-NON-CONGRESS GOVERNMENT OR CONGRESS-BJP COALITION GOVERNMENT !

    WE MANY TIMES WROTE THAT THE ALL MANUWADI PARTIES KILLED SAHIB KANSHI RAM WITH THE CONIEVANCE OF THE MANUWADI JUDICIARY TO STOP HIM TO BE A FIRST EVER DALIT PM OF INDIA !

    IN MAY , 1991 ,WHEN PEOPLE OF PUNJAB WENT TO POLING BOOTHS TO CAST VOTE FOR PUNJAB ASSEMBLY , THEY WERE REFUSED TO CAST THEIR VOTES AS THE MANUWADI RULERS CANCELED THE POLING WITHOUT ANY REASON !

    IN FEB., 1992 ,WHEN AGAIN POLING FOR THE PUNJAB ASSEMBLY HELD , THE CONGRESS SPONSORED TERRORISTS KILLED ABOUT TWO DOZEN WORKERS OF BSP . ONE OF THE INJURED IN THE NOORMAHAL MASSACRE IDENTIFIED A PERSON WHO HAPPENED TO BE LOCAL CONGRESS WORKER .

    I HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE WHICH WAS COVERED EVEN BY THE NATIONAL PRESS ON FRONT PAGES TO GIVE EVIDENCES . LATE MR. BEANT SINGH THEN CM OF PUNJAB REPLIED IN THE ASSEMBLY THAT THE ACCUSED PERSON IS NOT A CONGRESS WORKER . WE ISSUED THE PHOTOSTAT COPIES OF HIS IDENTITY CARD AS COUNTING AGENT OF CONGRESS PARTY . THE SAME BEANT SINGH WAS ALSO KILLED BY THE HUMAN BOMB .THIS IS THE MANUWADI DEMOCRACY !!!!!

    THESE MANUWADI PARTIES MISUSED THE JUDICIARY AND THEY MAY FURTHER MISUSE THE ARMY . THEY MAY IMPOSE EMERGENCY OR MARTIAL LAW !

    SAHIB KANSHI RAM USED TO SAY THAT THE MANUWADIS MAY UNITE TO COUNTER US POLITICALLY AND EVEN MIGHT MISUSE THE JUDICIARY AND ARMY !!!!!
    LET US WATCH THE LOK SABHA RESULTS ON 16TH MAY , 2009 AND ONWARDS !!!!!

  143. veni gopal said

    Mr chumber is suffering from dementia. Please let Dr rao take him to mental asylum. You are a fu*king idiot shit who deserves public flogging who knows no rationalism, who is stubbornly idiot, rigid not willing to change. May The Laws Of Nature condemn you to hell for defaming God

  144. Civan said

    Soms religious poeples are infected by the racist White beast Devil. The members of the White beast Devil are preparing to destroy planet Earth!. But they all will be destroyed, before the fifth earth Paradise comes. The bad religious Devils shall burn in Hell!

  145. KumarA said

    what a ridiculous & disgusting crap.
    Don’t write any thing bad about anybody’s religion & gods…no one has given you this right yo fool.

  146. vijay said

    Looks like i wasted my 10 min by reading this crap! People write in agony….wise and intelligent should not react…but say few lines and leave…

  147. Vinay said

    I WON’T WASTE MUCH TIME. In short as Lord Buddha pointed out to a “caste brahmin (a religious teacher)”, after attaining Buddhahood that ” A man is Brahmin not by birth but by his deeds(karma).”
    So, brahmin word has become a misnomer!! which was otherwise meant to be pure.
    Again, it is noteworthy that Buddha ‘Siddhartha Gautama’ himself meditated for increasing the level of Awareness & so could become “The Buddha” or the fully awakened one or the fully aware. The same meditation is known as Vipassana in Pali. Vipassana is not something arousing Conspiracy as the writer thinks.
    Dr. B.R. Ambedkar opposed this so called brahminism (casteism oriented), and not brahmins in general. He himself had brahmin friends. Dr. B.R. Ambedkar was a Economist, Lawyer and a historian as well.
    Know about his contribution to RBI before making vague comments on him.

  148. pruthvirajt said

    We are in the such era that we can’t afford thinking about cast-ism. I am Maratha by caste and I know how things actually work in our country. But we have to get over of all these otherwise we all will be sunk. There are many countries who are waiting at our borders to eat this country by organic or inorganic way. I am not giving lecture over integrity and all but I think whatever you read on internet just don’t trust it blindly. Use your senses ask your friends I am sure we all have friends from other castes (unless you are less than 6 months old), so consult with them. Think of these things deeply.

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