Why Babasaheb Married a Brahmin

Many Dalit intellectuals have burnt a lot of midnight oil trying to analyze why our saviour Babasaheb Dr. Bhim Rao Ambedkar married Mai Savitha Ambedkar, a chitpavan brahmin from Maharashtra. Did Babasaheb fall a prey to the Brahmin conspiracy. Many of my dalit brothers and writers in Maharashtra hint that there is a conspiracy from the brahmins. Some of the upper caste people laugh at this. Some of their twice born intellectuals even claim that Babasaheb wanted a trophy Brahmin wife. How true are all these. Why have we dalits come to such a stage that we are even questioning our leader. Do these people think that they are more intelligent than Babasaheb, the most revolutionary leader since Gautama Buddha.

Babsaheb can never be wrong. There is a message in each and every action of his life. Babasaheb by Marrying the doctor brahmin Mai Ambedkar has shown us that even women in Brahmin community is oppressed and the only way they can be saved is to get them out of their jati. Brahmin women are also Dalits in a way. Brahmin women are the biggest victim of Brahmin conspiracy. Manu treats women like filth, even brahmin woman. Out dalit women are much more free than the brahmins. They dont become untouchable during menstruation. They work in the fields and they cook.

If you want to finish the brahmins then marry the Brahmin women. Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna. Then Brahmins the micro minority 3 percent population of india will have no women left to marry and breed. They will die a natural death and become extinct. Look at the genius of Ambedkar. Without understanding Ambedkar’s genius all these so called Dalit intellectuals are making all kinds of noise and falling prey to manuwadi agendas. Remmber manuwadis beleive what they want to believe and they make you believe what they want you to believe.

Educate, Organize and Agitate – Jai Bhim

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  1. everythingisok said

    Babasaheb married a brahmin because generally chitpavan brahmin girls are pretty and ambedkar was human too. What’s wrong in marrying a pretty girl that to when he is a well educated and a successful leader.

    Too much is made out of ambedkar’s life as if he is a role model for all things related to the life of dalits and the underprivileged. Ambedkar identified with the underprivileged only from an academic sense. He was more western in his outlook and habits and had hardly anything in common with a normal dispossessed dalit.

    • Ashish said

      I agree with you on most points here…he was western in his habits and more so with his ideology and way of thinking…his writings reflect that, but i do not agree with you that his identification with dalits was mere academic.
      The wearer knows where the shoe pinches, they say. He kind of commitment and passion he had in his fight for dalit is not justified if the reasons are academic.

      On his marriage with Savita Ambedkar, I think ppl are reading too much into it. Its a personal thing and doesnt have to have any social or public implication.

      • meera said

        There is ofcourse an element of conspiracy in this.

        1. brahmins always try to possess atleast by marriage highly talented people and eventually stop them from going higher.
        Eg. Bachans marrying aiswarya
        sachin tendulkar-Dr. Anjali U can add to the list.

        2 Brahmin women are highly oppressed in the name of religion and rituals
        Eg. They are made to work almost 20 hrs a day at home
        they are deprf sleep
        most of their brahmin husbands have secret wifes. outwardly thay are clean
        3. brahmin whores are arranged to demoralise other caste politicians

      • DEV said

        Hey Its not any kind of issue to discuss…. he proposed a constitution where equality , independence and fraternity is the core elements.
        So in India by constitution and legal law … you can marry anyone on your choice and willful desecration of both side….. So i feel Its a personal matter to marry or to decide to live with who… so for this you need love and like and willful thought … so there is no conspiracy and its very personal matter… not brahmin-dalit issue … so its very unworthy to make issue of his marriage.. rather than respecting like or love of their marriage.

      • tutunmatun said

        exactly. u r ryt… whatevr babasaheb did , he was ryt at his point… whtev the writer of this blog is thnking is wrng…..

      • SUNIL said

        NO PROBLEM U MARRY BRAHMIN GIRLS AND WE BRAHMNS WILL MARRY DALIT GIRLS AND CONVERT DALITS TO BRAHMINS

    • RKNAIDU said

      INDIAS MOST PROBLEMS ARE BECAUSE OF THESE BRHAMIN SNAKES, DEVIDED US, DESTROYED US WITH FALSE BELEIVES, WE ALL BOYCOT TEMPLES, EDUCATE OURS,
      SPEAK UP AGAINEST BRAHMIN OPPRESSION OF OUR STUPID INDIANS WITH ALL LIES ABOUT GODS.

      YES I AGREE WE SUDRAS SHOULD PROODUCE CHILDREN FOR BRHMIN WOMEN.

      aS LONG AS HUMANS LISTEN TO BRHMIN CULT, INDIA HAS NO FUTURE, THESE ARE CRIMINALS DESTROYED ,BUDDHISM, CREATED CAST, DEVISION, WAKE UP , OUR ENEMY IS BRAHMIJ.

      RKNAIDU, IAS.

      • H.N.Bindu Madhava said

        Mr.RKNAIDU,

        U are a quolified IAS officer, U know better the constitutional facts. For division of any caste Brahmins are not only responsible. Really it is Muslims and Christians are rueing us by converting Hindus to their religion. The existenace of Hinduism, is only because of Adi Shankaracharya. Pl.. look at the past history , the contribution to the nation by Brahmins are marvalous. Every caste has good and bad people in their rays.

        1. The muslims are dangerous by nature. You can find ONE Abdul Kalam but NINETy NINE KARAMS. The Proverb is ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS BUT TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS.
        2. These Cristians are slow poison people. They have entered the world market by helping poor people in the field of Education and Hospital. But they are slowly converting our Hindus. Do U find and Original Muslim or Christian in our Country ?.

        PL. look at the history and speak.

        thanks
        BM

      • hitler said

        Mr Naidu. I think you are the burden over the earth. It is the benovolancy of Brihmin that shudra are still alive in India. there is no black coloured shudra in Europe because all of them were eliminated . But only in India you are alive because we people of aryans have faith in single god. all human being is the part of god. you say that shudra should get children from brahmin woman then where will go your mothers sisters and daughters. would they offer their wovm to monkies or dogs. I think only you can give true answer because it seems you are the scion of the above mentioned animal creature.

      • PAVAN said

        being an IAS officer mr naidu how can u speak such an unparlementry language and i can see the jealous in your heart as u r not born brahmin.

        INDIA IS STILL ALIVE DUE TO BRAHMINS .
        THINK REFER HISTORY AND BE A BIT MORE RESPONSIBLE(NOT AS AN IAS BUT ATLEAST AS AN INDIAN CITIZEN).

      • Upadhyay said

        We the people of india quite religious & pure heart . We for centuries offers milk to snakes (without going in details that snakes actually do not drink milk). The venom of the snake can not be taken so lightly as been indicated by Mr. Naidu.

        He is an IAS ( why we all know) and why is he saying so ( thats too we know). I guess Mr. Naidu writing on Internet will not serve your purpose. Most of your good non-snakes (dont know what then) are not on Net.

        I am sad to see the name of this blog too. Did we ever hear of Brahmin nation , Kshatriya nation etc ( though it was like that only for centruies) . It is hoped that there is some better reason for such name except for frustation of ppl like Naidu and their inferiority complex .

        I am sad that most of actual Dalits ( I will say really poor and needy ) are happy if in evening they are having food to eat. I am not leaving such under priveledged people from UP which are being governed by Ms. Mayawati . They can not actually ever dream for having someone from their family as Civil servant.

        It is seen that most of these Dalit IAS are treating Civil services as their family right and wants that such benefits and priveleged post only for their kins and families. They actually want that least of ppl from oppressed class come out of their miserries and become their competitor.

        Mr. Naidu and likes are actually eating the right of entire oppressed class. And still what is their Intellect level can be seen by his comments. I can only pray that he and ppl like him would have been somewhat constructive and have positive output & vision at their workplace.

        God save the oppressed class from such Neo- Brahmins who are neither Brahmins and nor oppressed.

      • R.K. Naidu. IAS. Reservations. Enough said.

      • shrimantrao said

        There is a saying in Marathi viz. “Kolhyala Drakshe Ambat” . I think the dalits and the OBC’s and all the ‘bahujan samaj’ should initiate and facilitate the mission of ‘Roti and Beti Vyavahar’ only amongst themselves and completely avoid marrying any Brahmin and thus isolate Brahmins. That will also send a signal that the best species is found amongst dalits, OBC’s, BC’s and other bahujan samaj and not in the Brahmins, By marrying Brahmins the dalits OBC’s, BC’s and other bahujan samaj are in a way admitting and surrendering to the concept supremacy of Brahmins. This mission should be initiated vigorously by all the political leaders who are anti Brahmin and particularly those people especially from the Maratha Caste who call themselves to be non believers in casteism and who believe in the ideology of Secularism. By marrying their ons and daughters to Dalits, OBC’s, BC’s, SC’s and the down trodden castes, the Maratha Community in Maharashtra and people like MLA Mr. Mete, Purushottam Khedkar, Shrimant Kokate, Pawar, Mohite, Deshmukh who believe in uplifting the down trodden castes – bahujans can easily teach a lesson to the Brahmins.

      • From A person of new generation said

        Mr. Naidu, ur statements r very disgusting & rubbish…. i wonder how can an educated person like u say so….. r u really educated???? no u r not. u r a person of an unstable mind.. go an consult a psychiatrist bcoz u have a deep infiriority complex of being born in a dalit caste. u should be sacked from ur job in thrown in a mental assylum… u n people like u r destroying our society n putting a wrong picture for d new generations. u r a burden on this society… ur further generations should be ashamed of u n ur thoughts.

        .

      • aam admi said

        Brahmins plus Dalits = Power in Delhi

        Jai Mayavati

      • i j swamy said

        Don`t marry snakes .

      • kishor said

        I think RK NAIDU’s thoughts are like prostitutes who can never think holy.

      • Indian said

        There s nothing that differentiate lower caste and upper caste but the thinking,will power, bravery and intelligence. And this is proved by author of above article..

        Did you hear anything produced/discovered/invented by lower caste that helped India ?
        Is there any Army Unit by the name of Chamaar or SC that defends Indian borders from enemy ?

        And what else is expected from anyone living in India ?

        Now we must say why America is World Power?

        In America there no such Caste based Reservation system.
        And Barack Obama didn’t get any caste based reservation to become president of United States.He worked hard , struggled and fought for that.

        People do some productive work and make India Proud. Leave marriage and personal decision personal only.

        Everyone know India has over billion people and 50 million are SC[Source Wikipedia].They live on government mercy, like reservation,Govt. Help etc but never work for themselves and keeps imagining conspiracy theories against upper caste and are useless to Indian Economy.There was only one SC who qualified truly , BR Ambedkar and he too married a Brahmin girl because he knew SC girls are useless.Now Talking about remaining non Schedule caste only 50% are productive people and running country. Congress is busy pleasing SC and muslims because they are brainless and are easy to be controlled by Italian Mafianos.

        God Bless India.

      • rakesh katka said

        FRANKLY TO SAY THAT NAIDU WOMENS ARE QUITE PRETTY AND MY NEIGHBOUR IS LOWER CASTE AND HE LOVED THE KAPU GIRL AND ENJOYED ALOT

      • i j swamy said

        R K Naidu (kaapu caste) sab , We Brahmins decide ultimately how you must live . Worship us .

      • raj said

        idiots u dont have inborn sense and u prefer to marry brahmin women.once u learn everything from them u try to destroy the evidance.and more over NAIDU`s are such an idots that they dont have proper identy.tehy r corss of Iyengars,Muslims etc.They r the true bastards.like Vijaykanth of Tamilnadu…….

      • bhima shanker said

        Your comments merely reflect a very deep-rooted hatred for the brahmin community. You probably just inherited this attitude from the elders in your family and believed in it unthinkingly. Most of us grow up only to believe in the prejudices that are instilled in us during our childhood. It is true that at one time the Brahmin community dominated the society and when one section of society is placed on a pedestal there is bound to be some sort of exploitation of others. But so many generations have past now and today’s brahmin is so different from his ancestors. Such continued anger becomes unjustified and only perpetuates the very casteism that we need to oppose.

      • Brahmins rock said

        RK Naidu ….Randi ki aulad mkl …tum chutiyo ki kuch aukat hai nahi khudki toh Brahmins ko blame karte ho…..reservation ki wajah se tumhara khandan chal rha hia…..warna tum sabke sab abhi tak hum Brahmins ki tatti saaf karte rehte….mc ke pille teri maa chodunga agar dubara Brahmins ke khilaf kuch bola….

      • shivu said

        Never blame any community. I know INDIA is made of different flavours in terms of community, customs, traditions, food etc… That’s why India is different from any other country in the world. Mr. Naidu, I heard U as an IAS officer and serving a respectable, top most position in our country. These emotions will not fit for your job as you are suppose to treat people equally. Never blame on women of any community, since in india women is getting a lot of respect compared to any other country. Question yourself and consult with your family members that what made you to speak these words??? If we unite instead of blame game we will rule the world.
        I think in olden days the cast system was created based on the work. I think you know well than me as since you are an IAS officer and it is a part of your IAS entrance. GIVE RESPECT AND TAKE RESPECT…
        BHARAT MATA KI JAI…..

      • prasad rao said

        fuck u posing as ias,
        ur nothing but fake…

        Did only brahmins only discriminated you
        Every other upper cast discriminated u
        Even u ppl discriminate each other eg. sc st
        it was British propaganda that if india gets
        Independence only brahmins will rule the
        Country that propaganda was used to deny
        independence to india which was later cached
        up by fools like u and ambedkar

        fucker thats how i caught u that u were faking to be
        an IAS coz every IAS will have some knowledge in history
        even if he got through with just reservation with out merit

        dear SC/ST brothers don’t believe fakers like him
        just live ur life proudly and fight for ur own upliftment
        these fakers, fuckers , will continue British propaganda
        just judge our socity with ur own life experiences
        put ur hand on ur heart weather u ppl ever got discriminated
        grossly only coz of ur cast in this modern society in india

        Think brothers think….

      • cutie said

        well said you are right…..God doesn’t need Brahmin priest, god isn’t so narrow minded. god accept everyone. actually Brahmin priest needs god to make money.

      • jai said

        bhag madarchod

      • BuddhamSharnam said

        My dear brothers & sisters why you all are full of poison for Brahmans ?
        Had you ever thought why we dalits were not there where these brahamans were? Why the history depicts that how & why we got??
        No doubt Brahmans were superiors that times & we were fools who went busy in picking filth. Why we went stupid then?
        We are responsible for our present not anybody else should be blamed. We were granted for reservation for 10 yrs still we found ourselves crawling begging for the reservation. We dnt want to change..we want to live in the mercy given by others.
        Fools are those who believes that there stupid post will be accepted undoubtedly. Remember one thing we are Hindu & should feel proud in it! Vedas are our roots don’t raise finger towards it..If you still have doubts than go & study than revert speaking few words of english doesn’t shows your smartness. All facts & figure shared by this forum is suspected & colored with hate supported minds which could be supported by bastard politicians who want to keep us alive as once we were!
        My friends come..wake up! Time has come to break the chains & leave the hatred world behind. Its a time to stand up for our country despite of caste. Jai hind!

      • Vivek said

        MR. RK Naidu You seem to be worse than terrorists in terms of the hatred and venom you have for a particular community. Being an IAS office the kind of things you are saying are criminal. You talk of untouchability and all the historic wrongs but what you are doing is worse than that. Even budha or your beloved babasaheb never preached hatred. Learn to be human.

      • Brijendra said

        Mr Naidu how about asking pakistan for help to destroy brahmins.I have heard pakistani generals bragging that Dalits of India will support them in eliminating brahmins !!!

      • sriniranga said

        yes i agree we bramans should produce childrens for sudras women .. bramin

      • Prithvi said

        Mr RKNAIDU, wonder what sort of an IAS you are.. You can not frame a sentence or even spell.. The likes of you are responsible for the trash India is in.. Fathering brahmin kids?? Wonder which ape fathered you, you complex ridden a**hole..

      • BrahminsZindabad said

        Brahmin’s are the best and will be the best – We are the High Race.
        You fucking low-caste bastards want to eat, live and enjoy without working for it. We pay the fucking tax and you bastards enjoy – you know this is surviving in others SPIT.
        Fucking caste reservation survivors – if you low caste bastards really have balls try to compete in any field without taking reservation benefit. You people are stinky faggots ruining India as a whole

      • Gautam said

        A Big fuck u IAS

      • Alok said

        Instead of all dese concept just relax and think about the futher now no one is brahmin no one is dalit all are equal …

      • AK said

        Naidu….. You moron go get yourself fucked. And don’t claim yourself to be an IAS you retard

    • puloman said

      He married her because bhangi girls look ugly

      • Akshay said

        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha………………… bwwaaahahahahahahahahahahahaaa……………. thats all i can say.. Puloman you are the man………..

      • satish said

        Good one.

      • satish said

        Very good one

      • indus mission of culture said

        Mr. hitler,
        You have played your coin what u are! We the aboriginals have a humanistic tradition to welcome and offer sustenance to the guests come from anywhere. Still our people are continuing the same worship and feeding you sacrificing themselves. But you? the treacherous (NIMAK HARAM) parasite have been sucking our blood to destroy ourselves entering our house. The aboriginals gradually have been identifying you the main criminal of this country, who destroyed our beliefs, philosophy, education, architecture and dhamma.

        Your Arthasastra, Manusmriti and other criminalistic literature never identifyed a woman as Brahmin rather animal (PASU). In that view no woman in India is a Brahmin. On the other hand the the killer, barbar, rapist Aryans entered our country without any woman. Killing our simpliest people they captured our women and raped them drinking Sura. U the bastard the unwanted child claiming as Brahmin and still giving us threat!!! Dont cross the line of our tolerance. Wash your Brahmanical sin otherwise U will soon be put into the Man Musium for farther study as the bloodsucking species of homosapiance.

      • Balwant Mangat said

        Banias have money and their women love good food and sit comfortably in air conditioned rooms but most of them look like black or grey elephants or buffalows. I am a Sikh and my jamadarni looked more beautiful than us. How dare you can say this. My family became educated right after Puna Pact. They worked hard and became sucessful in the field of education, politics and financially. They educated their seven daughters , out of which four moved to U.S. and Canada and became docters nurses etc. There husbands are also doctors, engineers and specialists. I am the only one who married a so called high caste.
        My husband was always jealous of them. All he could do is get drunk and vent out his frustration by swearing at them on the phone.
        They got their phone unlisted. He was burning to control them. Even I got admitted into a foreign university. If we were in India a stigma would always be attached with that we came under reservation. In these countries reservation is given to all minorties under the name of affirmative action.
        My point is that Scheduled castes live under abject poverty and
        also they are subjected to hate and deprivation. How do you expect them to compete with people who have no financial and emotional problems due to casteism.
        Our cleaning lady was Brahmin. She did not know our caste. After few days I told not to leave clean dishes in the sink. She told me “we are Brahmans we are not Mazhabi Sikhs. Her son had married a Mazhabi who was working as a maid in a DSP’s house. She was very beautiful and her son stoped her from working as a maid. I told my Brahmin maid “If God considered you any higher than
        your daughter-in-law or me than he would throw a package of Rs 10,000 per month your house and you would’nt have to do cleaning
        work”. I also asked her how did yiu get to this position? You had no barrier or obstruction in your way from society? I also told her I don’t like your way of thinking and I don’t want you to work in our house anymore.

      • bikash upadhyay said

        here is the reason why b. ambedkar married brahmin girl……ambedkars mom was working in brahmins house as an house maid and ambedkar was born as a mercy of that brahmin which was not known to the society,,it was only known to the couple,, brahmin was teacher by profession but have the qualities of great ND Tiwari,and by knowing the facts he could not leave the ambedkar so he educated ambedkar on his own and helped him to marry in his own caste (the brahmins). so ambedkar has his blood as brahmin and shudra. so while writing the constitution he showed his brahmin excellence but by giving reservations to dalits he showed hi dalit part which is still shame for the society…and believe me its fact….

      • lethaljet said

        To INDIAN,,
        for your kind information there is one MAHAR Regiment in Army belongs to SC. So please don’t puke if you don’t have any kind of knowledge and the population you are saying is full of Aboriginals including OBC, SC and ST..
        HA ha ha..
        I think somebody dictated you wrongly..

      • cutie said

        The brahmin community has been one of the dirty communities which has planned strategically to fool people in the name of god by generating the highest donations in the temple, doing business to fool and loot money in the name of puja, death, marriage, new home… For any occasion, there’s one puja. They charge very high prices and take away all the items after the puja. They have created prostitution in the name of devadasis. They suppress jobs and employment and welfare and equality are destroyed. they have destroyed the Indian medical system. They have killed Indian medical science like siddha vaidhyam and created ayurveda and carnatic music by destroying dravidian music. Even today they have the temples under their control. They say they don’t like untouchables, but they have always been sexually harassing low caste women.

      • apurv Rai said

        I know many brahmin girls who left home with her muslim boyfriend

    • utkarsh said

      nice man aisa kuch yeh andhe logo ko rah dikhate raho

      • Decision Maker said

        Well his tone may be rough bt he had some sence.
        pratically thinking at that time the sc girls must have been a nightmare for a well educated man, western thinking man.
        moreover his personal interest of taking a revenge 4m the brahmins did also got fulfilled.
        he was a smart man he hunted two birds of one arrow bt ate the fruit he critisied 4 his lifetime…………

    • Tamil dalit said

      Its a completely nonsensical argument. Its not a rocket science to infer that Ambedkar spoke for inter caste marriage ( and also an All India exam for the position for preists) , and he followed what he had preached. If you want to destroy caste system ,its not just the Brahmins’ caste that should be destroyed, but the caste of all those people who want the caste system to survive. So intercaste marriages should be promoted amongst the entire caste ridden Hindu fold.

      • i j swamy said

        Don`t destroy all castes . Keep Brahmins who are supreme .

      • Praful Rathod said

        It is possible that can we give our Daughters (Rajput ) to marry Dalit to help destroy caste system

    • ijswamy said

      We Brahmins are superior to all others.Ambedkar knew it very well . So to become great he married an uppermost caste Brahmin lady .

      • Lalita arora said

        o o o..aaj ke science n so calld modrn world mein rehkar bhi w people r fightng on such issues…..whtz wrng wid u people..WAKE UPP….em a grl belngng 2 jatt familie nd em proud 2 be a jatti….
        bt trust me guys em vry much amazd by Dr.B.R.Ambedkar……sm yearz ago , my views were d same….as urz….bt u must read hiz biography nd if u peopl have heart thn u wud surely going 2 realize whts d actual reasnn….behind d marriage nd his sacrifices…….

    • Sheetal Kamble said

      I am totally disappoint and disagree with the all bakwas point you have slotted above. Actually, if you go into real history of Babasaheb Ambedkar; he was imposed to get marry with Savita Kabir; as Babasaheb was suffering from diabeties and BP. Savita is just behaving like a nurse for Babasaheb and nothing else. Babasaheb had not given any rights to her of his wife (Mai Ramabai Ambedkar)

      Savita Kabir and his Superior boss Dr. Malvankar has imposed Babasaheb to marry with Savita. There is 13years gap between Babasaheb’s 1st marriage to 2nd Marriage.

      Savita Kabir had killed Babasaheb Ambedkar. She was the KILLER of Babasaheb.

      THIS IS THE TRUE STORY OF BRAHMINS….

      • i j swamy said

        Ambedkar was not a baba nor a saheb .Ambedkar used his wife for service but never gave her anything . What a wretched husband ?So the latest news is that your baba /saheb was murdered by a woman.
        Good fiction and bad hatred .

      • Swappy said

        @Sheetal Kamble: Kuch bhi fekti hai.
        ek kaam kar ye sab likhke ek book publish kar, bahot chappal milenge tujhe.
        i can understand ur condition.

      • ananya said

        You Are absolutely right Sheetal Kamble i do agre wit u guys plz stop dis argument v hv rgt to marry in any cast as v wnt because today’s life 86% of ppl mary to othr community and it is normal..
        for sheetal u r right coz my grandma had visited AMBEDKAR’JI’s home several times n unka unke ghar ana jana hota tha so she is knwn abut wat khichdi had cooked inside the room but at one point savita ji was not his nurse but his 2nd wife n at some wrk he had gone out of town aftr he return his home at delhi..
        his wife forced him to eat some sweet whch made by her..
        he ate dat and slep aftr dat he slep for a long time n nvr awake.. 😦

    • Sniper said

      Dude! get a life. Many ancient peple like bhaskaracharya , aryabhatta , pingala , susrutha , panini , charak , budhayana , Siddhacharya ,Bramahagupta , Chanakya , patanjali , varahaminhira…….and so many more were brahamins. They were the 1st people to bring modern science and mathematics to the world(for more info refer wikipedia) . without these people you would be typing on a keyboard because they brought out complicated arthematic processes which the europeans adopted. Now , tell me one acheivement of a Dalit which brought about a revolution in this world and which brought about a technological breakthrough . You people have done nothing productive to mankind and accuse brahamins who have given a lot to this world. From yoga(patanjali) to Surgery(Susrutha) to Trignometry,calculus(Aryabhatta)…… and more were done by brahamins. Many of susrutha’s techniqes are still used . You people have an inferiority complex and blame everything on brahamins . I am a secular person and respect every religion but accusations like this without proofs cannot be accepted. Sanskrit is the mother of all languages and it was perfected by a Brahamin(panini). Sanskrit is the only language which is error free. surf the net for more info on Brahamins . Even the book you refer for xxx tips (kamasutra) was written by a brahamin. Carnatic music , which is the toughest genre of music was invented by a brahamin. I find no difference between your attitude and Hitler’s , as both of you hate a particular community. Your community is no different from that of a nomad because you just adopt things done by others but you are not innovative at all. You people are low creatures who cannot decipher the knowledge of Vedas(it is too complex for you people) .
      Even the westerners know the value of Indian culture (don’t get too excited , you people had no culture-all credit goes to Brahmins) . I am an Brahmin and I am proud to be. You have nothing to be proud of. ) you people survive in India just because of RESERVATIONS otherwise you would’t stand a chance against us .Still we excel in all professions. Your community got OWNED

      • lethaljet said

        OH fuck you..all the shit is innovated by BRAHmins..ha ha..so why didn’t the world ever recognized their contribution.. VEDIc culture is the culture of bastards.. and the fucking music and astrology is an overrated nonsense..nobody believes it..and if all the innovations are done by fucking PANDITS then whats the need of NEWTON and EINSTEIN?? now don’t tell me that they too were brahmins..HOLY SHIT….go and get some life..you are the most outdated community …you just invented cast system thats it… you motherfuckers…….and I know your xxx Technics…and how did they invented… fucking morons and Pedophiles..VEDIC nomads…BRAHMANS were nomads not aboriginals…go and visit harrappa…you people always spread alien things…grow up..now everybody knows the history, geography and science..

      • raj said

        excellent yaar.its 100% true. To be frank, now only the BC and other backward class like Naidus,Nadars,Thevars oppose Dalits and not Brahmins.All those are diverted by those culprits andd dalits without knowing those belive them. As naidus dont have their own sense and its borrowed from Brahmins they twist everything on brahmins. theey r the most venamous bastards. and after learnign everything from the brahmins they try to destroy the proof. Even karunanidhi is born to a Nellore priest. As they dont have courage and they r cowards they try to show false bravery on brahmis.if they r true braves let them oppose the other religions who r destroying the whole hinduism by converting them. Bull shit cowards they are…………

    • Andy Martin said

      but babya ambedkar was married to mountbatten..

      • i j swamy said

        Dear Raj , You are right . Non brahmins became rich by wrong means, annexed polical power and insult dalits . Dalits are conditioned to blame Brahmins .

    • jayalatha said

      i think the brahmin women are starved of their basic rights. they are starved for sex in the name of religon and rituals. The other caste men especially dalits should take up the job of satisfying sex starved brahmin women and the brahmin women should be allowed to have sex with other caste men irrespective of their martial status. i hope many brahmin women will agree with me

      • i j swamy said

        Lower caste women used to work as manual labourers in Brahmins` Agraharams . Romantic Brahmin Pundits used to f*** non Brahmin women .Children thus produced are called dalits . That is why some dalits inherited intelligence . That is why God blesses dalit women for co operating with pious Brahmins

    • Kirti said

      All who Speak against Brahmins are “Namak Haram” (Betrayers) . B.R Ambedkar got his surname from Brahmin, got scholarship from High caste Maharaja and then stupids speak against Brahmins.

      It was the high caste people like Ram Mohan Roy, Dayanand sarawati who stood for dalit rights long before Ambedkar was born…. But a corrupt mind cannot be taught anything.

    • Atul Kumar Mandal said

      Why do you think beautiful women can only be found in Chitpawan Brahman community only ???

    • P santosh kumar said

      just checked the photos after reading your comment ..and found her no way to be pretty. He just wanted to prove a point mebbe.

    • I am Dr vishal Shinde l was asked by 4 brahmin females for getting married to them but I refused because they do lot of casteism and keep dalits away from progress

  2. dalitfreedom said

    Babasaheb was trapped by the upper caste into marrying a Brahmin. It was a clear conspiracy. Look at the way the upper castes have swallowed up Prakash Ambedkar.
    Dalit politicians have to be careful. This has been happening quite frequently the dwijas identify the promising Dalit leaders and set them up with Brahmin whores. Look at Ram Vilas paswan he has had a second marriage with a brahmin woman and he is almost politically finished now. Dalit politicians beware.

    • RKNAIDU said

      aLL REST OF SUDRAS JOIN, OUR WORST ENEMY IS BRHMIN .

      iNDIA REMAIN A THIRD WORLD FOR EVER UNLESS BRHMINS ARE REMOVED.

      THEY WANTED INDIANS LISTEN TO THEIR STUPID BELEIVES, OPPRESSORS.

      rKNAIDU,IAS

      • Mon said

        I can’t believe such rubbish has been written and printed for the outside world to see. THIS is why India has not progressed, not because of Dalits & Brahmins, but because people like you are so busy inciting hatred between Indians. Unless Indian people can start thinking of themselves as Indian and not as segregated parties, we are never going to achieve our potential. When will we ever learn, that by fighting between ourselves we only invite outsiders to come and exploit us.

      • hh said

        Lol 😀 now Chumber has a new name called RK Naidu.

        The same guy keeps barking the same things in caps.

        So now it Chumber @Anita Gupta @Ram Karisha Sharma @Dukhi India @RK Naidu

      • gagan said

        i dont think Naidu deserves to be an IAS. he is such a low grade person. He is saying all this beacuse his father is a brahmin who disowned . let him write whatever he writes it proves that IASs too could be intellectualy bakrupt

      • nero said

        well said bro.

      • Patil said

        R K Naidu ur the most edit person in the world u became IAS bcoz u get reservation otherwise people like u are not deserved it

      • I agree this Mr.Naidu. Its true Bhramins(Aryans) made this world worst by all means. Badly speaking they are filth. Only one aryanHitler killed many of his race is still here in INDIA

      • Pt. Ashwini Kumar Dubey said

        Mr. Naidu why you are so frustated under inferiority complex. Cool Up. Dog Dalits cannot destroy Lion Brahmins.
        Don’t see dreams in day. Remember people like you and other dalits are alive on brahmin’s mercy. Understood??????????

      • Tamil Deshastha said

        I’m not going to play this game of one-upmanship.

        I do not think one community (call it a caste, tribe, linguistic group or whatever you please) is inherently superior to another. It’s just unfortunate that we Indians do not realize that a human being should be judged by his own merits, not by the social group to which he belongs.

        Please do not taunt the Brahmins. It’s bad enough that we now feel like second-class citizens in our own country. It’s almost impossible for us to get into the top universities in the country or be appointed to positions in the government. We have to face impossibly high cut-offs and quotas set by an administration that is supposed to ensure social equality.

        I grant that my ancestors may have been guilty of discriminating against the so-called ‘lower castes’. Neither I, nor any right-thinking member of society, would support discrimination of any sort.

        However, two wrongs do not a right make.

        I respectfully ask you what your main agenda is – equality or vengeance? By limiting our opportunities to advance in society, you’re guilty of the very injustices of which you accuse my forefathers.

      • jai said

        madarchod naidu, your all women are fucked by several times by different people, you are not an IAS. if u were you knew the truth.bhaag madarchod

      • sriniranga said

        ok the same will happen to u also ,,,,bramins wipe out of india and some other religion will dominate ur next generation and never allow ur people to leave happy

    • ijswamy said

      Everyone wants to marry Brahmin girls because only Brahmins are broadminded. Others like choudaries rajputs never marry a dalit .Give me a single example where a dalit man married any girl from a nonbrahmin upper caste.

      • so many girls from non brahmins (upperrrr caste) married dalits..
        and many brahmin girls married to Dalit boys and Many brahmin married women have contact will dalit boy and they love to do this..
        It may be Hard to believe for a person like You.. what to do It all Fact.

      • bln89 said

        no god but truth see the truth atrocities committed on dalit are not done by brahmins but obcs which rape your daughter and wifes daily in haryana and up. and still you are hung up on brahmins. we are the people still having knowledge. you idiots are still the progeny of britishers.

  3. everythingisok said

    @dalitfreedom

    Do you also call Savitha Ambedkar as a Brahmin whore set up to destroy Ambedkar.

  4. dalitfreedom said

    Yes. She was set up the Maharstrian upper castes. Even the death of Babasaheb is suspect. That too just two months after the great conversion to Buddhism Babasaheb died. There is something fishy.

  5. Admit it, brahmin women on the majority are quite hot. They are fair, pretty and elegant. Ambedkar is a man like anyone, obvious he liked her and got married into her. Your theories about marrying brahmin women so that us brahmins dont have women to marry at all is actually fantastic. In fact i would love that to happen so that brahmins dont exist at all. That would mean that dalits dont exist either when there are no brahmins.

    I wonder whom you would have left to blame for all of your problems after all brahmins are dead. The Jews?

    • nero said

      lol..well said brother.

  6. dalitnation said

    Good you recognize the end of Brahminism. It is the world of equality and justice that we are aiming at and this will only happen after the death of the Brahminical Social Order.

    • Ganesh said

      Dont be idiotic dalitnation. You’ll have no purpose of life if brahmins are finished. No caste votes; nobody to blame; life will be boring for majority ofpeople in TN. And, who will marry the dalit girls if you all marry brahmin girls?? Anyway they’re liberated and free so they can live with anyone. hahahah. Stop the nonsense and get to do some constructive work for yourself, your family and the nation instead of spreading unfounded hatred.

    • yeah it should be done.. (This social order must be destroyed) we should put an end-card to this 3000 years Manu Barbarism

      you forget this kid Filthy. Ganesh.

      Stupid boy asking silly questions

      • bln89 said

        you idiot this 3000 year problem will be solved when all you mother fucker dalits are killed and your women raped. hhahahahaha

  7. “Death of the Brahmin Social Order”. You are smoking too much ganja dude. Please stop that. The Brahmin Culture has survived 6000+ years now since 3000 B.C.E.

    The concept of dalit or dalit word or terminology came up not later than 50 or 100 years back. You must be really retarded to kill the brahmin social order. What are you going to do about the brahmins in the US and UK and elswhere? How are you gonna trace and kill them? Please justify.

  8. Lots of Dalit leaders married to brahmin women. Why this stupid fascination for upper caste women.
    Udit Raj – Married to Seema Raj – Punjabi Khatri High caste
    Ram Vilas Paswan – Married to Reena Sharma – Punjabi Brahmin

    Once they come to power they run after Brahmin girls. Dalits should becomeaware of these people. Be careful.

    Even the non-dalit V.T.Rajashekar married a brahmin woman. His hatred from brahmin intensified when his in-laws ill-treated him. Atleast VTR is better because he understood brahmin people because he knew from his wife who was brahmin. But udit raj and paswan are completely swallowed up by brahmins.

  9. Peppi Mint said

    Punjabi kudis are the sexiest girls in India. Look guys all these politicians from ambedkar to this paswan all wants good sexy girls and they marry. When it comes to sex these people think from their dicks.

    • systemfaulty said

      listen u peppi mint arse do not just blabber n e thing on d internet if u dont knw a shit bout dis understand

  10. Ramesh said

    A hundred years ago, anti-social elements started a campaign against the tamil brahmins in TN. They started spreading this rumour that brahmins have majority of govt jobs, college seats etc. So they started the communal reservation system. Hundred years later, there is an illegal system of majority reservations. The brahmins have been wiped out in education, jobs etc. Most have left TN and will never return. Yet the same anti-social elements continue to say that 95% of TN population (enjoying majority reservtions) are weak, backward, marginalised and oppressed!

    Oppressed from what? from whom? 99% seats and marginalised? These people make Goebbles happy

  11. sunny bono said

    hey dalit,

    have you ever given a thought to the fact that you guys make india the only country where people “aspire” to be BC/MBC/SC/ST? when the world is moving ahead, you guys want to regress! you guys want everything for free.

    can’t you guys score just 60% to avail govt. scholarships? you cry / crib / whine / whinge for anything and everything. next you will expect pass mark to be lowered from 40%. infact i wouldn’t be surprised if you demand that its enough if you just sit for exams and you should be awarded degrees. and also be given job reservations on top of that.

    now you want to marry brahmin women…………..c’mon DUDe, wake up. brahmin women don’t flip for monkeys like you.

    • cutie said

      When anywhere we heard about any crime then some anti hindu says it’s did by lower caste people..then let me tell you the truth..The 2012 Delhi gang rape case involved a rape and fatal assault that occurred on 16 December 2012 in Munirka, a neighbourhood in South Delhi, when a 23-year-old female physiotherapy intern[2] was beaten and gang raped in a private bus in which she was travelling with a male friend. Criminal name are..Ram Singh,Pawan Gupta,Vinay Sharma,Mukesh Singh,Akshay Thakur……And how can you forgot about your previous history RAVAN, DURYODHAN,KANS…

    • cutie said

      Always remember one thing in ur life when u abuse lower caste by saying dalit n chamaar then u abusing yourself n ur own religion..bcoz if u accepted that hindu religion is one n these religion has four community like:brahmin,kshatriya,vaishya,shudra.shudra means pure (pure from soul n heart)..then let me remind u fourth community also come under hindu religion they are also hindu to whom u abuse as dalit n chamaar…so you are not abusing them but abusing yourself n your own religion too..

  12. OMkar said

    Its amazing that work of great people is interpreted to such a cheap level.. Wow…whoever wrote the first scrap…boss..people like you mae the world such a horrific place to live. You brought out a Murderer within Babasaheb Ambedkar…with what good thinking and a thinking of making an equal society he worked on the constitutions and brought up reservations only for the first 20 yrs of Free India..so that the society comes to a balance after a torrid time. But no people like u want it to go on foreveer….

    Dude…do u like a girl?? For that girl “Mam, he finds a silent killer in Babasaheb, be aware of his findings..he might find something out of you too”

  13. Sachin Salave said

    I need to share an interesting information with all of you participating in this discussion.
    During the General Election in Bhandara, Babasaheb had gone to preside over a meeting. One activist confronted Babasaheb and angrily asked him that why did he marry a brahmin woman. Babasaheb calmly asked him to meet him after the meeting. After the meeting Babasaheb said to him,” Go and give this messsage to my followers that they should not do this mistake.(i.e of marrying a Brahmin woman)”
    Circumstances that lead to his marriage must be understood before coming to any hasty conclusions.
    Firstly, in the mahar caste and in the untouchables in general, there was no education at all in those times. And to find a nurse or a doctor to take care of him throughout the day was impossible. So he had to marry. But it was impossible to find a doctor woman among our people. And Babasaheb had a plethora of ailments like bloodpressure, diabetes, bodypain etc. There was no one to take care of him after Maisaheb’s death. Babasaheb did not marry many years after Maisahebs death. He chose to remain single. But untimely hours of eating and constant pressure of his social activities made him excessively ill. He was almost blind in his later years. So his doctor Mr.Malwankar introduced Miss Savita kabir to him and she used to take care of him. Eventually they married. But Dr.Ambedkar married a Brahmin doctor so that he could be healthy and contribute more of his energy for the social movement.
    But his second wife did not take care of him at all. Dr. Krishnamurthy wrote a letter to Dr.Ambedkar saying that he was being tortured by his wife and she did not allow him to see Dr.Ambedkar. He wrote that as Dr.Ambedkar was doing a great service to the downtrodden people of India, he wanted to treat him and cure him and restore his health. But His wife prevented all this from happening.
    Even Dr.Bastein, a woman, was not allowed to see Dr.Ambedkar. Dr.Bastein wanted to check his health and prescribe some medicines for him. But she was not at all allowed to see the doctor.
    After Babasaheb’s death, his followers demanded a post-mortem. The post-mortem was done by the Nehru Govt. But the report was not made public.Still it has not been made public. This clearly proves that some thing was wrong.
    Just hours after the death of Dr.Ambedkar, his wife demanded that she should be made the National President of Scheduled Castes Federation and The Buddhist Society of India and all this should be done before Dr.Ambedkars dead body was cremated.
    All this is documented.

    More afterwards……….

  14. John said

    Comparing a human to Buddha. Shows how stupid you really are.

    • idiot .. Buddha is also a human. You sick boy . Can you realize how stupid you are….. at least know

  15. C.L.CHUMBER said

    WHY did not DR.Ambedkar married a mahar/non-mahar sc lady ? Why did DR. Ambedkar married to a Brahmin lady when he had already written that the brahminism & capitalism are two enemies of the aboroginal Indians ! DR.Ambedkar delivered speeches in the Round Table Conferences in London that untouchables are a separate element in Indian society and he won by the communal award declared on 17th Aug.1932 but he lost by signing Gandhi-Ambedkar pact(Pune Pact).In March 1929,he wrote an editorial of his Bahishkrit Bharat weekly that untouchables must convert to Islam & there is no need to convert to Arya Samaj or Budhaism ! Before 53 days of his pre-nirvan, he embraced Budhaism.! In 1945 AD,he wrote a book`What congress & Gandhi have done to the untochables?` & in 1947 he took oath as minister in Nehru cabinet ! In 1945 he wrote a chapter`Are not untouchables a separate elements ?`in his master piece book `What congress &—-?` Next year he wrote a book to establish that untouchables are ex-Kashatary.!DR .Ambedkar denounced his pact with Mr.Gandhi By writting`Poona Pact-A mean deal` & resigned from the Nehru brahmin`s cabinet ! He bought law books to get divorce with his brahmin wife but he was finished by a conciperacy.Are untouchables should follow the Dr. Ambedkar`s path or not ?

  16. sharma said

    why reservations based on caste? please dont give reservations to dalits

    • asshole then allow as to become a priest in all temples in india at least this…

      • i j swamy said

        You dalits want to become ministers MPs MLAs etc . Shameless reservation mongers are not willing to take up ill paid priest jobs .

      • shivu said

        You have kept your title as No GOD, But Truth. Why you want priest, temples etc.. or change ur title…

      • cutie said

        Right…God doesn’t need Brahmin priest, god isn’t so narrow minded. god accept everyone. actually Brahmin priest needs god to make money.

  17. sharma said

    it is not the brahmins who oppressed dalits,there were only four castes in the vedas brahmin,vyshya,kshatriya.sudra.the sudras created dalits.

    • utkarsh said

      HELLO BROTHERS YOU ALL ARE MISGUIDED BY THE WRONG EDITION OF SCRIPTURES .MANU SMRITI IS A GREAT BOOK .IT IS A GUNPUJAK BOOK .NOT THE KARMA PUJAK ONE.
      THE FFOUR VARNAS HAVE EQUAL VALUES AS SAID IN GEETA.AS THEIR WORK IS DIFFERENT.AND IF YOU WHY WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE FOR THIS AND THAT OF YOUR RUBBISH DEMANDS I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
      IN A BUS THERE IS A DRIVER ,A CONDUCTOR ,A REPAIRMAN, AND A ANNOUNCER. WHICH ONE IS SMALL ACCORDING TO YOU.
      THAN WHY ARE YOU ALL FIGHTING FOR THIS KIND OF RUBBISH THING.
      IDIAN CULTURE SAY THAT WE ALL ARE DIVINE AND GOD LIVES IN US .
      SO HOW CAN BE ANY ONE SMALL OR BIG ACORDING TO BIRTH AND IF THERE IS ANY MISUNDERSTANDING THAN WE ALL HAVE TO COMBINE AND HAVE THE SOLUTION BUT NOT OPPOSING THIS GREAT CULTURE.
      JAI HIND
      PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR ANY DOUBT ABOUT INDIAN CULTURE AT utkarsh.patel143@gmail.com

      • true brother but sadly we will be termed as sanghi by this people

      • brother u hav given the exampl of bus and its staff who control it.as per geeta and manusmruti the announcerr can not allowed the job of driver or conductor and the driver would be driver by birth not lidns merrits and capabilities. Hinduism is a ilding of four floors which has no ladder to go up or down.Brother read and acknowledge the facts in true sence so that you can realize it.Bal Gangadhar Tilak has openly declared that I would follow the untouchability in my personal life as per chaturvarna system and he opposed the campain to rule out untochbility in1910.

        Read the history pages with both eyes without prejudice minded.

        Apka mangal ho

        VINAY DESHPANDE

    • cutie said

      Whenever someone’s ask you about your caste then your answer should be to them is:
      I am a Brahmin in knowledge
      I am kshatriya in valor
      I am vaishya in business
      I m shudra in service
      In the end I am just sanatam dharmi hindu and nothing else..Then say you proud to be a hindu..

  18. indian said

    Ambedkar married a brahmin lady, Paswan married a barhmin lady even though his first wife alive. Once a dalit come out from his circumstance then he act as brahmin. He never interested to marry from his cast. The real enemey of Dalit is Dalit not upper cast.

    • cutie said

      That’s your poor thinking…in our family there are four community people living together even sikh,christian n muslim too..we live like a true indian okh…we dont have any ego n just believe in true human being..

    • vijay said

      after reaching height a man tries to neglect his own poor family is truth so did he. how may dalits like to marry their own poors after beecoming IAS and allied , even mayawati have cheated dalits by amassing wealth by fefooling dalits on slogan on tilak, taraju, talwar inko maro jute char.
      no one can befool people for all times. youths have known all drama of reservation, casteism of devide and rule policy followed by leaders of all parties which have destroyed hindus and now they want to devide muslims on caste lines but they are not going to budge and are trying to get reservation on religion base and time will come there may be amendment in costitution to appease them like reservation policy is nothing but devide and rule which babasaheb rightly recommended for 10 years only and he rightly converted to budhidsm as he was not dalit after attaining intellect of highest level not thro reservations and concessions but thro his mind only. people are misusing dalits to suppliment their own agenda not for poorest of poor dalits trying to poss their leaders.

  19. C.L.CHUMBER said

    Mr. Sharma opposed caste base reservation for dalits/scs.Why ? The entire Indian society is varna/caste base. Who bloody fool created this non-sense varna system ? Mr.Sharma`s all fundamental rights may be snatched who is against the costitutional rights of scs. All devtas of sharmas are rapist,racist and fascist.The creater of hindu/vedic creations,Brahma tried his best to rape his daughter but the great Shiva chopped off his head ! Second devta Vishnu raped Varinda w/o Jalandhar ref. The Padam Puran/ Tulsi Vivah movie.Indra was also rapest.Rama killed pious Shambuk st. doing bhakati being shudra.All sharmas are active to rebuilt Ram mandir in Ayodya.Pl read uttara khand chapter of valmiki ramayna.He was neither an ideal king/husband ! What was Sita`s fault for her banishment.?Bhagwan Valmiki gave her shelter.but mentle hindus say Valmiki as dacoit.Reservation is a constitutional right.All sharmas should fight to annihiliate caste/varna system by doing inter-caste/inter-varna marriages otherwise these systems will annihilate their status in modern global society. Choice is theirs !

    • utkarsh said

      oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh greatest fool!
      havent you once think whom you are opposing ………………………..
      you dont know your fifth grand father name(5 generaion back).
      and due to his only great character he is remind 7000 years and more.
      and please contact me if you to question ram .
      he is avtar not a foolish like you
      your baba did second marraige and he has only opposed polygamy.
      but ram illustrated a good example of monogamy .
      tell your baba to learn something form ram .
      dont do this mistake again with out being adult to question

    • superb man well said to this Assole.Sharma…

  20. Bono said

    Chumber you are a low grade moron. You certainly need reservation.

    • Bono ass-ole If Chumber need resevation means its ok. But why you assole crying to lift the reservation. because you assole unable to competent with other caste. And Assole filth like You should remember that reservation not only favors Dalit it also favors BC/MBC it comprises of more than thousand castes.

  21. Bikash said

    religion is meant to unite people. Dalit or the downtrodden need to come to the main stream.
    Whatever has been done in past by Babasaheb is a herculean task indeed.
    It is his endeavor that has made people to think and talk like every other human beings in this free world.
    But this thinking and talking like every other people in this world has made people enemy of each other which any real patriot will not like.

    Dalit says: Give me as my forefathers were denied
    Dont give them because their fathers were given
    Non Dalit Says:Do not make partialities
    Dalit: Partiality had already been done with us .
    NonDalit: Forget past move on
    dalit: How can we when this gives us the oppertunity
    Nondalit: What have we done wrong
    politician: Non Dalits are bound to suffer as they are idiots
    Non Dalit: Why are we idiots?
    Politician: You people think of yourselves only, have you ever thought about your fellow Non dalits ? Whenever there is any anti reservation rally or protest you sit in front of TV watching and saying oh country is going down, merits are wasted.
    When antireservation protestors need fund non of you give it.
    Non dalit: Hey we have BJP our allied party atleast it has a soft corner for we upper outcasts.
    Politician: Oh do you think BJP to be your allie? Ha HA HA HA Ha
    When antiquota rally by youth for equality (lead medical students of India)was going on which party told anything in support of you ? NONE
    Non Dalit:Why
    Politician: It is because they too want Dalits vote
    Dalit: What BJP wants us , but how can that fascist party help us?
    Politician(in whisper): It is because dalits have no brain. They are a bunch of sheeps in need of a shepherd.
    Dalit: Why are you talking like this?
    Politician: Sorry Sorry, What I was telling that you people have a lot of fellow feeling and when any one of you gets the message he pesuades his whole village so we get votes. And (in whispers) money, women,liquor , give them anything they will come but these Non Dalits they will always analyse, idiots .It is very difficult to bias these Non Dalits and very easy to persuade Dalits.

    Dalit (thinking): Nobody has told us these things . Is this writer Bikash who certainly is a Non Dalit trying to make faction in us or is he trying to tell that there is nothing in hatred.
    Respect can not be gained by hatred it can only be gotten through love and peace.

  22. C.L.CHUMBER said

    Dear Bono ! You are really hIgh grade moron ! Please reply my views.Otherwise you should not enter in this debate/dialogue..You called the dalits idiots in reply to my views in this website.Please do not loose temper.Please remember the Newton`s third law of gravity .Thanx.

  23. bhattathiri said

    In the storm of life we struggle through myriads of stimuli of pressure, stress, and muti-problems that seek for a solution and answer. We are so suppressed by the routine of this every life style that most of us seem helpless. However, if we look closely to ancient techniques we shall discover the magnificent way to understand and realize the ones around us and mostly ourselves. If only we could stop for a moment and allow this to happen. May all beings be happy (Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu)

  24. ACTIVIST said

    @ EVERYONE …

    all your discussion is bull’s shit!
    I really dont care what brahmins think of dalits or what dalits think of brahmins.

    I really dont care who Babasaheb Ambedkar got married to, why he got married and what was the reason behind his death.

    Instead of fighting between who is who? and who should get married to who? why cant u people think of leaving this issues aside, start getting ur younger generation educated and work unitedly in development of India?

    Frankly speaking, dalits have a tendency to think at a very cheap level and perhaps that is sustaining their development. Think big and your future will certainly be bigger than u could have ever expected.

  25. lohit said

    babasaheb fell into prey of chitpawan girl…………chitpawan r cunning ppl who give off their sexy hot girls to their enemies to kill them…..it is true…………….

  26. lohit said

    or else dalits in maharastra shld marry chitpawan girls & take them out of varna………they have reservations they can easily get into iits than chitpawan brahmans………they have to fuck chitpawan chicks & to destroy the braminism ………….

    • Anand Hosmani said

      Very rightly said Lohith. Dalits and OBC’s should marry hot chitpawan girls and take them out of Varna then only fully equality can be bought in Hinduism. OBC’s and SC’s graduates from IIT’s and IIM’s should aim at chitpawan girls.

      • jaya said

        i cant understand why only graduates from OBCs and SCs should try for chitpawan girls… let even uneducated SC,ST and OBCs try and get these hot and sexy chitpawan girls into their beds. One neednot marry them..just enjoy them and let them realise the enjoyment in having non brahmin males. that will bring them out of their varna..

      • jaya said

        not only ambedkar but many dalit policiticians married brahmin girls.some of the policiticians have brahmin whores.it is not just coincidance that they do so. they r doing with a purpose.when a dalit man gets brahmin girl into bed her jatyahankara (pride of caste) will get a beating. when their bodies contact and dalit man penetrates brahmin woman the shackles of brahminism r broken . that is why it is important to do this act again and again.

    • chandrika said

      lohit i am a hot chitpawan girl and your opinion is very interesting to me. interestingly i lost my virginity to a dalit man, a classmate.he told me that he wanted to take me out of varna and i agreed and we felt the best way was that he could fuck me.after he broke my virginity there was a debate and most dalit men agreed that this was the best way to brake the shackles of brahminism. Some brahmin women agreed too.So basically i think we brahmin women like your idea of taking us out of 0ur varna by f**king us. we are ready for it and it is upto u dalit men to take advantage and make us your bedpartners and take us 9ut of brahmin varna

      • For dirty b…..s like you caste is no bar – cut across all castes and certainly u would enjoy any …k.

  27. Cool said

    Shame on you Lohit. Just shows how cheap-skate your thinking is. How would you feel if your sis is exploited for your caste. If you have a prob with something, why cannot you fight man to man. Why do you horrible men target women.

  28. katy said

    ambedkar braoght british constitution in india.. if it was a hindu brahmin then may be we have hindu country full of temples and kings and agriculture.

    these american people are brainwashing children with iphone and video games..

    they already destoroyued hinduism by creating the term “dalit” which one cannot find in hinduism..

    and they will destroyed dalit people too.. i guess then people will unite and do work according to their dharma.

  29. chetan said

    We need few brahmins in India as it would add to its cultural diversty.

  30. C. L . CHUMBER said

    BRAHMINS RAPED KSHATRIYA WOMEN 21 GENERATIONS !!!!!
    RESPECTED VIEWERS,
    Mr. Cool ( 7th instant ) wrote in response of Mr. Lohit ( 5th May ), ” Why do you horrible men target women .” The Hindu chauvinists writers of this blog never condemned theirs rapist , racist and fascist Gods Why ? They worship the rapists and also claim to be feminist.The rapist ( Pl read Padam Puran.movie TULSI-VIVAH,and distt,Jalandar gazeteer of Pb.govt.)Vishnu `s incarnation Hindu- bhagwan Parshuram ( Brahmin by birth ) killed his mother Renuka as his father rishi Jamdagni ordered him .He neither requested his father for his mother`s life nor he knew the fault .He may refuse to murder his sweet mother.Such were the cruel and senseless the Hindu-bhagwan and his father towards theirs mother and wife respectively .Can our fathers dictate us to do like this ? Can we obey our fathers like Parshuram ?
    Secondly,some kshatriyas murdered rishi Jamdagni.Parshuram took vow to finish the kshatriys men on earth.He finished the all kshatriyas men on the earth .THE Hindu-bhagwan made widows the all kshatriya women . Then Hindu-bhagwan (brahmin ) ordered the brahmin young men to made pregnent all kshatriya widows on the earth.Then he ordered to finish the all new born male babies.The kshatriya girls were raped .Theirs male children were finished .This process was repeated 21 times .This is a rare example .There is no second example like this in the world history and mythology.
    That is why Dr.Ambedkar wrote “The Riddles of Hinduism” in English published by the Maharashtra state govt.Please read the Vedas,Puranas ,Mahabharta ,Ramayna ,simirities to know the rapist,racist and fascist gods.Beware of them.Your coming generation will not recognize them as ideals .Thanks.

    • khsatriya said

      asshole motherfucker, wer u present at that time to witness all that?. u hopeless filthy creature are full of hatred.

    • u r right. all hindu puran and my mythology have corrupted the brain of 95% OBC they should be awaken for new era of science and free culture to think.

      vinay deshpande

  31. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WHY BRAHMINS HATE THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION ? ? ? ? ?

    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr./Mrs./Miss Katy wrote ( May 9,2008 @ 9.44 pm ) as below :-

    “ambedkar braoght british constitution in india.. if it was a hindu brahmin then may be we have hindu country full of temples and kings and agriculture.

    these american people are brainwashing children with iphone and video games..”
    What is wrong in this constitution ? The present judiciary,army,education,railway,communication and democracy systems are the product of britishers.The brahmin manuwadi system is filthy system in which the rapist ,racist and fascist are worshiped as Gods .Are temples a source of production ? Where was the brahmin architect of the constitution ? Why brahmins love the kings and hate democracy ?
    The brahmins mostly use iphones and video games and blame the Americans .Katy think about rapist,racist and fascist so called Gods.

  32. hh said

    Chumber,

    Please do not worry abt Parashurama stories.

    All these are very old stories. And we don’t know if they free from exagerration.

    In what way is this related to the current plight of the dalits?

  33. C,L.CHUMBER said

    BEWARE OF RACIST & FASCIST BRAHMIN PARSHU RAM INCARNATION OF
    RAPIST VISHNU WHO RAPED PIOUS ADI-MATA VRINDA @ TULSI !!!!!
    Dear Happy Hindu @ Lavnya ,
    Your good self wrote ( June 1,2008 @ 2.17 ) as under :-
    ” Chumber,Please do not worry abt Parashurama stories
    All these are very old stories. And we don’t know if they free from exagerration.In what way is this related to the current plight of the dalits? ”
    Dear Lavnya ji ! If a community at present worship Parshu Ram as their God who is an incarnation of a rapist Vishnu , the cultured people will afraid t of the followers of rapists , racists and fascists whether they are alive or not .How are you saying that these are OLD STORIES ? These Gods and their followers are/were deadly anti dalits.These Gods killed the DALIT-GODS.Their followers are anti-dalits .They struggle for RAM-RAJYA where pious saint Shambuka was killed and pious Sita mata was banished by RAMA.
    The writer of ramayna of Adi-Bhagwan VALMIKI is branded as dacoit .

    • Subodh said

      I think you need to read history again. I feel very sorry for your thoughts & assumptions.

    • Gay Boy said

      Shambuka was a paedophile and hence rama killed him.

  34. pavan said

    stupid articles stupid authors please write some useful articles why you people are trying to divide society.This is 21st century still u people mad about your castes.Please dont spoit indian society.

  35. h said

    Valmiki was a Kirata and from the Bhil hunting tribe and a dacoit BEFORE he became a brahmin.

    Nobody needs to brand anybody.

    Branding and consumerism are non-asian concepts that creeped into religion.

  36. C,L.CHUMBER said

    STUPID PAVAN ,STUPID HIS PARENTS WHO DID NOT TRAINED
    HIM HOW TO BEHAVE / TALK IN SOCIETY !!!!!

    Dear viewers ,
    Your good selves had watched that the anti-dalit persons do not behave respectfully to dalits / rational people .I have recorded some persons in this blog.Now Mr.Pavan wrote (June 4, 2008 @ 5:58 am )as below: :-
    ” stupid articles stupid authors please write some useful articles why you people are trying to divide society.This is 21st century still u people mad about your castes.Please dont spoit indian society.”
    If these articles and writers are stupids ,then he/she should contribute as an intellectual so that the viewers may judge his/her brain.The society is already divided in four varnas and thousands castes .What is Pavan doing to unite this society ? Mr.Pavan is not livimg in 21st centuary where a national political party called BJP is struugling hard to rebuilt a RAMA temple on the remains of the Babari mosque at Ayodya.Rama killed an innocent shudra saint Shambukand banished his wife Sita.Pavan called the writers of this blog stupids.I hope he will comment on Rama`s both actions as stupidity or clemency ! We are creating a dialogue spirit in India.

  37. C,L.CHUMBER said

    ADI-BHAGWAN VALMIKI,ADI-GURUS RAVIDAAS,KABIR WERE NOT BRAHMINS ! BRAHMINS`GODS DOME RAPISTS,RACISTS AND FASCISTS SO CALLED GODS !

    Dear Happy Hindu @ Lavnya Ji
    Your good self wrote ( June 4, 2008 @ 9:42 am)as below :-
    ” Valmiki was a Kirata and from the Bhil hunting tribe and a dacoit BEFORE he became a brahmin.Nobody needs to brand anybody.Branding and consumerism are non-asian concepts that creeped into religion.”
    Once I Interviewed Dr.(Mrs.) Manjula SahdevPh.D.,Head & Chairperson
    of Bhagwan Valmiki Chair ,Punjabi University,Patiala for my magazine.This was a very detailed and open interview in which she concluded as below :-
    ( 1 ) Bhagwan Valmiki was not a dacoit.in the pre muslim period.
    ( 2 ) Every Sanskrit book was started with paying obeisance to Bhagwan Valmiki .
    ( 3 ) When the Muslims became the rulers of some parts of India in the 8th century,the Brahmin priest / intellectual class needed a warrior hero to project in the Hindu masses to make theirs warrior bent of mind .
    (4) The Brahmin priest class found Rama of Ayodya as a warrior hero.
    ( 5 ) The Brahmins felt uneasiness on Valmiki being all round hero in his Ramayna as compared to Rama.
    ( 6 ) Then Brahmins plotted to defame Valmiki as dacoit as well as the follower of Rama to eliminate Valmiki as a feminist and humanistic personality from the minds of Indian masses !
    During the same period ( June 1999),I wrote an article regarding Bhai Gurdaas`literature in which he wrote Valmiki as dacoit and wrote also filthy remarks regarding women of Chuhra/valmiki community.Due to my research article circulated in the Valmiki community widely , the Parkash Singh Badal`s govt. had to ban the book of Bhai Gurdaas contemporary and close relative of Guru Arjan Dev ji
    Dear Happy Hindu ! there is not a provision in the Brahmin/Hindu scriptures to convert a Bhil to a Brahmin. You Hindu people invented this theory to glorify brahminism and loose the confidence of aboriginals of India.The Brahmin is not a degree of excellence .You Hindu people wrote Adi-Guru Namdev also as DACOIT .( Please read a book on Adi-Guru Namdev published by the Punjab Language Department.,Patiala ).You Hindu people claim that Adi-Guru Kabir was born to a widow brahmin lady.The medical science do not know how to produce a child from an unmarried or widow lady .The lady can not be conception without the intercourse with opposite sex .How did a brahmin widow lady was pregnent.? Was that brahmin lady had ILLEGITIMATE relation with a male ? What was the name ,parentage and address of that brahmin lady ? The brahmin males have no respect for their brahmin ladies.If they have , they must had not written imaginary stories.They boast that the Vedas have science,Have/had the brahmins science in Vedas to born a Kabir like rational humanist from the womb of their widow brahmin lady without an intercourse with opposite sex ?
    Once the brahmins`lovely king Akbar asked his intellectuals to translate the Mahabharat from Sanskrit to Persian.One of his intellectuals said that there were maximum illigitimate persons in the Mahabharat..
    Dear Happy Hindu @ Lavnya ! you Hindu people also wrote and still write that Adi-Guru Ravidaas was a brahmin in his previous birth..
    Adi-Bhagwan Valmiki was neither Brahmin nor dacoit.Adi-Guru Namdev was also not dacoit.Adi-Gurus Ravidaas & Kabir were not brahmins in theirs present or previous births..Thanks.

  38. Karthikeyan said

    Oh goodness, this makes my head twirl! Ok accepted, Valmiki was not a dacoit. Ratnakar was surely a dacoit 🙂
    Or more precisely, a hunter, who later turned to a dacoit for meeting his family obligations.
    He was enlightened by Deva Rishi Narad. Then the enlightened Ratnakar sat meditating Rama nama. His concentration was so intense that he was unaware of ants building anthill on him! Then he later came out of the ant hill and became a Rishi. Ant hill is called ‘Valmikam’ in Sanskrit. So ‘Valmiki’ means ‘the one who came from ant hill’. All other things mentioned in contradiction with this comment are excellent work of fiction. Chumber Ji, I’m tired laughing.

  39. Martian said

    this great intellectual author is only trying to justify the lust of ambedkar for good looking women – how on earth did he become a great man???

  40. bharat said

    I think the people from the lower castes and the dalits are very much busy in mud throwing rather than thinking about the upliftment which Ambedkar thought.On the other hand brahmins continued to focus on their progress rather than retailiting to these bull shit things from other catses and thats why they hold all the top positions.
    Brahmins are inteligent people and will rule the world one day and these duffers will keep on thrwoing mud and fight for the credit.Useless…

  41. C.L.CHUMBER said

    VISHNU NOT AMBAWDEKAR HAD LUST FOR WOMEN !!!!!
    Dear Martin,
    I am now on tour of Mahableshwar(Maharashtra).Your good self wrote (June 18, 2008 @ 3:57 am) “this great intellectual author is only trying to justify the lust of ambedkar for good looking women – how on earth did he become a great man???”
    Dr.Ambawdekar had no lust for women.He married a brahmin lady .But your Vishnu raped Varinda and she cursed Vishnu.His brother Inder also raped Ahillya.Karishna deserted his wife and loved so many gopies incl.Radha !!!!!

    • Girish said

      But aren’t Vishnu, Indra, Ram, Krishna etc supposed to be Kshatriyas per Veda and Purana? Only violent and who think they are macho people kidnap and rape. Intellectuals rarely do.
      The question is if Brahmins are superior then why did they create Kshtriya heros? Why Brahmins served kings for eons? Why all puranic stories start with …once upon a time there was poor Brahmin…”.
      Some thing is not making sense …but then I think I am in company with fools here who are brain dead.

  42. sara said

    this is the most absurd site i have ever seen, what the hell is this aishwarya rai , that bitch doesnt care about caste system, she is a bunt/shetty and happily lives in a capitalist world. let her be on own to fight her emancipation, secondly brahmin women were no where like Dalits…. Dalit men who marry brahmin women out of bringing a change in caste can someone tell me what happens to Dalit girls, who would they marry? are these brahmin wives of dalit men ready to allow a two way of family exchange? grow up you cant be dalit voice…….fuuuuuu

  43. Karthikeyan said

    Ok Chumber Ji, haven’t you got anything else to say except abusing Gods? I expected that you would give meaningful counter argument to Bharat. But aren’t you just proving what he said? So sad..

  44. James said

    All dalit youths should marry Upper cast girls. And since upper cast are our supporter(hehehe) they shouls accept us their relatives.

  45. dwijill said

    Its time that Brahmins start throwing money around and have lower caste women as mistresses. Then they can create a new class of Dalits which will be proud of the Brahmin lineage and they will do the same. This will slowly engulf the hatred British created in Dalit minds against dalits. Brahmin girls and girls from Brahmin father should be encouraged to have higher caste brides. And Brahmin boys are fair , intelligent and smart. This will slowly take away reservations too as everybody will be proud, intelligent and self-confident not people who are scared , dull and who piss in their own pants at slightest of a difficulty.

  46. i love dalit pussies said

    VERY FUNNY WEB SITE. YOU ALSO MUST GIVE DETAIL AS TO HOW SAKPAL (AMBEDKAR IS A HIGH CASTE NAME) USED TO SUCK HIS OWN COCK BY DOING YOGA . HE USED TO PARTICIPATE IN NEGROES ORGY IN NEW YORK. YOU ARE DOING GREAT JOB KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

  47. C,L.CHUMBER said

    I NEITHER ABUSE NOR WORSHIP RAPISTS,RACISTS AND FASCISTS AS GODS !!!!!
    Dear Karthikeyan ji,
    You should be ashamed of defending the rapists,racists and fascists.You are blaming that I am abusing the Gods.Which Gods ? The rapists,racists and fascists are inhuman beings ! The followers of those must be put behind bars because our esteemed constitution do not permit it.I met some brahmins who felt sorry for it.A rational brahmin offered me to have relationship to annihilate the varna /caste system.I searched for ” Rapists,racists and fascists Gods” on Yahoo.You will be astonished to know that due to the daring spirit of the ADMINISTRATORS OF” DALITNATION .WORDPRESS” the YAHOO have also recorded our e-dialogue…Your good self and many others deserve thanks

  48. kureela said

    dalits and muslims should fuck hindu toilet papers who are propagating hinduism in India.Hindus are born barbaric and let them die or go to hell.Dalits and muslims should join together to fight hinduism not in India but at abroad also.All hindus and their hindu led government are born barbaric so they should ask for seprate country away from barbaric hindus.Brahmins and hindus are same .Dalits and muslims eats beef thats why brahmins means hindus girls want dalit cock beacuse grass eater hindus can not satiefied their women .from Aswaria Rai to paswan ,udit raj to VT rajshekhar got married to hindus means brahmins.

  49. margappa said

    Kureela I am a Dalit and we eat Pork. Muslims killed 8 of my family members in 1994. Now you ask me to join hands with these scumbags.

  50. C,L.CHUMBER said

    MR. M.K.NARAYNAN NATIONAL DEFENCE ADVISER OF INDIA OR POLITICAL DISASTER MANAGEMENT ADVISER ? ? ? ? ?
    Dear Viewers ,
    The United News of India news agency released a news from Sri Nagar ( J & K ) and New Delhi on 6th July 208 that Mr. M.K. Naraynan , national
    defence adviser threatened Prof.Bhim Singh of the Panthers Party to cast vote for
    Congress govt. in confidence motion .Mr.Narayanan threatened to finish physically if his party did not casted votes for govt.This shows the bent of mind of a person who is responsible for our safety.

  51. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WOMEN ARE OUR MOTHERS,SISTERS,WIVES AND DAUGHTERS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THE VIEWS OF DWIJJILL(June 30, 2008 @ 7:18 am )
    AND KUREELA (July 9, 2008 @ 6:51 pm ) .DWIJJILL CLAIMED,”Its time that Brahmins start throwing money around and have lower caste women as mistresses.And Brahmin boys are fair , intelligent and smart.” Are Brahmin girls not fair,intelligent and smart ? Then the men of rich countries will purchase the Brahmin girls by paying amount in sterling pounds and dollars.
    Kureela said ,”Dalits and Muslims eats beef thats why Brahmins means Hindus girls want Dalit cock because grass eater Hindus can not satisfied their women .from Aswaria Rai to Paswan ,Udit Raj to VT Rajshekhar got married to Hindus means Brahmins.” Mrs.Paswan is not Brahmin .Aswaria Rai is neither male nor Brahmin girl ! Women are not sex doles .They prefer sincerity than sex . Women are our mothers , sisters ,wives and daughters .Adi-bhagwan Valmiki wrote in his ramayna ,” The mother land and mother are superior than the heaven !” But king Ram humiliated his wife Sita by banishing him which ended in her suicide ! Ram also suicided ! Please protect the dignity of women and Shudras .

  52. Milind said

    Caste is a reality in India.But that does not mean all the Upper caste/brahmins are castist. Yes some of them are and some of them will be but not all. Many of them are ashamed of the past atrocities. And in this gobalised world caste identities will eventually die and we will live in amore egalitarian world.
    Erasing castes is primarily an upper caste responsibility. Our forefathers were the perpetrators so we should take a lead to help sooth the wounds. Please understand that this hatred stems from anger and understanding this pain and taking a more humane view is the need of the hour for all the upper castes.
    At the same time I hope that dalits will believe that not all Brahmins are as evil as you are portraying. Lot of them are above the caste now. We are brothers and we will unite again. Amen!!

  53. C,L.CHUMBER said

    NEITHER SAKPAL LOW CASTE NOR AMBEDKAR HIGH CASTE !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    A person having spurious name ” I LOVE DALIT PUSSIES ” said ( July 1, 2008 @ 5:11 pm ) ,” VERY FUNNY WEB SITE. YOU ALSO MUST GIVE DETAIL AS TO HOW SAKPAL (AMBEDKAR IS A HIGH CASTE NAME) USED TO SUCK HIS OWN COCK BY DOING YOGA . HE USED TO PARTICIPATE IN NEGROES ORGY IN NEW YORK. YOU ARE DOING GREAT JOB KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK . ” It is true that Dr.Ambawdekar`s sub-caste was Sakpal .The Maharashtrians often fix their village`s name + kar after their name .Dr.Ambawdekar`s native village was Ambawde. So their name in the school register was Bhim Rao Ram Ji Ambawdekar but his Brahmin teacher Pandit Ambedkar changed his title from Ambawdekar to Ambedkar .That is why I often write his name as Dr.Ambawdekar .
    Now there is no high or low caste .Now poor , illiterates are low status but they are not called low caste .Now the Brahmins and SCs of equal status are marrying .Dr.Ambawdekar `s second wife Dr.Savita Kabir M.B.B.S. belonged to the Brahmin community . A so called low caste /Varna ( Mahar )`s boy married to a so called upper caste/Varna `s M.B.B.S. girl . Then who is upper or lower ?

  54. John Selvaraj said

    Dear Friends,
    We r fighting among ourselves. We Indians must stick together. In a village dalits were suppressed by Nadars and not brahmins. So, how do u think a minority will suppress a majority? Won’t there be many Abedkars and Periyars in the past 5000 years. So, remember this is a plot done by the British and the Portuguese to divide my beloved people. I can see it now by reading the above craps. I’m a hindu dalit. I love Hindus(all o’ them) so also the Muslims and the Christians. You cannot overrule the majority. There would’ve been a revolt in the past 5000 years. But, there wasn’t. So, Mr. Chumber you will never win by just, shouting and by developing hatred in your heart. Come out of the shell, the world is very big. Let there be peace in our land.

    Amen,
    Jai Shree Ram,
    Wahe Guru Dev,


  55. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WE STRONGLY CONDEMN WHO KILLED MR.MARGAPPA`S 8 FAMILY MEMBERS .
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Margappa said (July 10, 2008 @ 8:59 am ) ,” Kureela I am a Dalit and we eat Pork. Muslims killed 8 of my family members in 1994. Now you ask me to join hands with these scumbags.” We all strongly condemn who killed Mr.Margappa`s 8 family members and who developed such situation . We also condemn the law and order enforcing agencies who could not save the innocent Indians .Mr.Margappa should write in detail this tragedy with his address .What can we do for Mr.Margappa ? We have full sympathy with him .
    I lost my father when I was just 10 years old .I still remember daily even after 4o years .Last year my wife lost her mother at the age of 75 years .My wife try to convince me that her loss is bigger than my loss because she enjoyed her mother`s company more than me .Whether young or old . male or female loss is irreparable .We again condole the deaths of Mr.Margappa`s family members . .

  56. C,L.CHUMBER said

    ERASING CASTES IS PRIMARILY SO CALLED UPPER CASTES RESPONSIBILITY ?
    Dear Milind ,
    You said (July 13, 2008 @ 9:41 pm ) ,” Erasing castes is primarily an upper caste responsibility. Our forefathers were the perpetrators so we should take a lead to help sooth the wounds. Please understand that this hatred stems from anger and understanding this pain and taking a more humane view is the need of the hour for all the upper castes.” Only the bearers knows where the shoe pinches ! The so called upper castes had created the Caste /Varna system to had their upper hand on the aboriginal Indians .They are still worshiping and highlighting the founders of this system .The 50% Indian govt.posts are reserved for these 15% foreigners and 85% aboriginal Indians got 49.5 % jobs.They misuse the army and judiciary to maintain the status quo .The Prime Minister S.Manmohan Singh had rightly said in his speech in the chief ministers` meeting on 22nd April,2008 at New Delhi that the Indian Judiciary is corrupt ! They have killed Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram by clearly wrong judgements.They even did not order to hand over the dead body to his family.They had killed the Indian democracy and the Indian judiciary had committed suicide ! We have no faith in our enemies .GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES !!!!!

  57. Milind said

    Mr.CHUMBER , I belong to the so called upper caste.I’m a chitpavan brahmin.
    Does that make me youe foe? Should I hate you or should you hate me just for the reason that I’m born in an upper caste family and you are not.
    We both are still human beings and we have the same blood flowing in our veins. I reject your theory of hatred as it won’t take us anywhere.

    At the same time I must admit that the corrective action needs to be taken and I’m all for affirmative action ( reservations and other benefits).

    You are trying to look for conspiracy theories in almost everything and that makes it absurd. The upper caste mind set needs to change but at the same time you also need to understand that even the upper castes understand and can take a humane view. We need to join the hands to fight the castism and build an egalitarian society. A society which will not have any Kharilangis.

  58. C,L.CHUMBER said

    YOU SAY BRAHMINS ARE HIGH,I SAY THEY ARE NOT HUMAN-BEINGS !!!!!
    Dear Milind ,
    You said (July 16, 2008 @ 3:45 pm ) ,” Mr.CHUMBER , I belong to the so called upper caste.I’m a chitpavan brahmin.Does that make me youe foe? Should I hate you or should you hate me just for the reason that I’m born in an upper caste family and you are not..We both are still human beings and we have the same blood flowing in our veins. I reject your theory of hatred as it won’t take us anywhere..”
    You are born to a woman and Hindu Bhagwan Krishna said in Gita ,’Women,vaish and shudra are sub-human beings ( paap zoni ).Then a man born to a paap zoni woman can not be a high caste/varna !

  59. Milind said

    Dear Mr.Chumber,
    I think you did not get the point. I can’t help if something is written in the texts.
    I haven’t even read those texts ( Manusmriti etc) and neither do I care about what is written there. These books were written thousands of years back and there could be a lot of stuff in it which may not make any sense.
    We need to break these artificial walls and join the hands. And I said I belong to so called upper castes.I used the phrase so called.Personally do we really care today about the castes?
    Babasaheb himself joined Buddhism to break these caste walls.

  60. Krishna said

    Chumber,

    Where in the Bhagwat Gita did Krishna say that women, vaishyas and shudras are sub-human beings?

    Who is teaching you Bhagawad Gita?

  61. Krishna said

    DN,

    Why are you deleting my posts?

    i am asking Chumber-ji to show me where in the Gita did Krishna say that women, vaishyas and shudras are sub-human beings?

    or are you writing your own Gita?

  62. Sridhar. K said

    Dear Chumberji,
    I accept your point. Let us level down the walls of caste system and let there be inter-caste marriages. I’m a brahmin and I strongly support your view.
    bfn,
    Sridhar

  63. C,L.CHUMBER said

    A BRAHMIN MR.SRIDHAR .K ACCEPTED AND SUPPORTED MY VIEWS ON RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AND OFFERED FOR INTER-CASTE MARRIAGES !!!!!

  64. C,L.CHUMBER said

    Bhagwat Gita `s Krishna said that women, vaishyas and shudras are sub-human beings in chapter 9 `s 32nd sloka ( couplet ) !!!!!

  65. C,L.CHUMBER said

    Babasaheb himself joined Buddhism to break these caste walls ?

    • nimit said

      Why so much discussion, Chitpavans are untouchables before era of peshwas, other brahmins never used take food with chitpavans, used to do shuddhikaran if came in contact with chitpavan.

  66. hh said

    With due respect to Swami Swarupananda for his English translation of the Bhagavad Gita, here it is (Chapter 9, couplet 32):

    ||māṃ hi pārtha vyapāśritya yepi syuḥ pāpayonayaḥ
    striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās tepi yānti parāṃ gatim||

    It is by taking refuge in Me, Partha that a person born of sin (papayonah), women, vaishyas and shudras attain the supreme goal.

    Krishna did not say that women, vaishyas and shudras were born of papayonah.

    He said anyone born of papayonah as well as women, vaishyas and shudras
    attain moksha by taking refuge in me.

    Anyone who takes birth has come out of desire has come from papayonah. It is expected that in kaliyuga everybody will be born in the state of desire; and therefore there will be very-very few real ‘brahmins’ or rishis being conceived without desire.

    Despite whatever way one is conceived or whereever one is given birth to, by refuge in Krishna he is on the path to moksha.

    You did not read the other shlokas in the same chapter – like the couplets 33 and 34, in which Krishna says what is the need for Brahmanaas (scriptures) and Rajarishis (maybe Krishna knew there won’t be rajarishis in kaliyuga), simply by fixing your heart in me (unconditional devotion), anyone can come to me.

  67. Karthikeyan said

    It was the delusion in those period that women, (solely profit seeking) vaishyas and (impure meat eating) shudras cannot attain moksha. Lord Krishna clears this delusion by the above quoted chap 9, verse 32 of Gita: “Anyone can attain moksha if they pursue me. Even those who are women, vaishyas and shudras (who are considered to have less knowledge of divinity) and who are born illegitimately outside of marriage wedlock”. Meaning moksha is not reserved for Brahmins/yogins alone. Anyone can attain moksha.

    (Being born outside of wedlock is socially unacceptable even today).

    Slokas are meant to be read and understood. Reading translations and others’ views alone won’t do. Learn Sankskrit. Learn Sanskriti. Then learn scriptures urself. Don’t get carried away by translation works.

  68. hh said

    With due respect to Swami Swarupananda for the English translation of the Bhagavad Gita, here it is (Chapter 9, couplet 32):

    ||māṃ hi pārtha vyapāśritya yepi syuḥ pāpayonayaḥ
    striyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrās tepi yānti parāṃ gatim||

    Translation:
    O Arjuna, women, Vaishyas, Shudras, as well as those of vile birth (whoever they may be), by taking refuge in Me they too attain the supreme goal (Prabupada’s interpretation).

    Literal translation:
    Maam – me / unto me.
    Hi – definitely.
    Partha – Arjuna.
    Vyapashritya – taking shelter / complete surrender
    Yepi – they also
    Syuh – are
    papayonah – born from sin
    Striyo – women
    Vaishyas – merchants
    Tatha – and
    Shudras – serfs
    Tepi – they too
    Yanti – attain
    Param – supreme
    Gatim – goal

    Krishna did not say that women, vaishyas and shudras were born of papayonah.

    It may not be possible to discuss the meaning of papayonah without understanding the root of desire, birth and re-birth.

    Anyone who takes birth has come out of desire and has therefore come from papayonah (born in sin and from sin or born in desire out of desire). It is expected that in kaliyuga everybody will be born in the state of desire; and therefore there will be very-very few real ‘brahmins’ or rishis being conceived without desire.

    Despite whatever way one is conceived or whereever one is given birth to, by seeking refuge in Krishna he is on the path to moksha.

    Krishna emphasized on unconditional devotion (bhakti marga) and says that simply by fixing your heart in me, anyone can come to me.

    The prob with these scriptures are that there are no hard and fast rules about how they are meant to be understood.

    In each eon, understanding changes and such scriptures may still apply as per the sensibilities of those times. Which is why they are sanaatan – the eternal ones. The sensibilities ofcourse depend on us, the recycled souls that have interpreted it differently in different times.

  69. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WHY KRISHNA CLUBBED WOMEN,SHUDRA,VAISH ,CHANDAL PAP-ZONI ? ? ? ? ?
    WHY NOT KRISHNA SAID TO BRAHMIN,KSHATTRIYA TO ATTAIN MOKSHA ?????
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu @ Lavnya @ hh said ( July 28, 2008 @ 10:56 am ),” He said anyone born of papayonah as well as women, vaishyas and shudras
    attain moksha by taking refuge in me.” Why Krishna clubbed women,vaish , shudra and chandal paap-zoni ? ” Why not Krishna said every body to attain so called moksha .Why not Krishna said to Brahmins and Kashattriyas to attain so called moksha . What is moksha ? What was the power with krishna ? A person who could not satisfy his wife Rukamani had no power of even ethics ! He had a uncontrolled lust for women .He was not an ideal person .He was a fast friend of Pandvas gamblers who lost theirs wife Daropadi in gamling !!!!!

  70. phoenix_77 said

    I found the comments made by C,L.Chumber extremely interesting.

    It seems that brahmins/upper caste hindus are made squarely responsible for the present plight of dalits & other backward castes & all the associated ills plaguing them till today

    And it looks that even after several decades of reservation in govt jobs & in institutes of higher education, they are unable to secure their rightful place in the sun.

    Mr C,L.Chumber, going through your comments,it seems that u have quite a reasonable knowledge in caste/varna system from historical perspective & that seems to get your hackles raised time & again.

    May I ask u kindly in this age & era of globalization,capitalism,materialism & consumerism how much relevance caste,religion,linguism etc holds in present
    day society???

    I want to put it bluntly.

    If u want the dalit community as a whole to come out of their self imposed mental straitjacket & standup to be counted & respected as one of the important parts of the cogwheel that makes the society run, then they have to remove the blinkers & work wholeheartedly towards that goal.

    For that u have to put sincere consistent hard work & well directed efforts.

    No amount of quotas or reservations will do the trick.

    One more common thing which I noticed in several of his comments, is his repeated stress on intercaste & intervarna marriages.

    That means by his own admission,the dalit community lacks the former qualities (hardwork,discipline,dedication,commitment etc…etc..) & they require the help of intercaste/intervarna marriages to move up in the social ladder.

    Man u really suck!.Your attitude sucks bigtime!.I don’t know what else to say?.

    I think there’s a bit of psychological problem in him.

    Maybe he associates brahmins/other upper castes to be fair, smart & goodlooking (the truth is there’s a significant disproportionate no of them compared to their population percentage) & he feels that through intercaste marriages, some of that qualities might rub onto their darker skin & remove the ugliness through their offsprings which might beget the upper caste qualities & somehow that might end their dicrimination.

    what happens usually ,u have offsprings with qualities that are stuckup,in the
    sense neither here nor there.

    My take on marriages is -leave it to guys & gals.Don’t insist wether it should be intercaste, intracaste,intereligion,interlingo,inter-whatever.

    Leave it to them. Its their very very……personal choice.Do not interfere.

  71. hh said

    whoopsy sorry i got the couplet n chapter numbers wrong in the post previous to the last 1.

  72. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WHY NOT MR.PHOENIX_77 @ ? ? ? ? ? CONDEMNS CASTE / VARNA CREATORS AND PRESERVERS ? I THINK THERE IS A BIG PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEM IN HIM
    Dear VIEWERS ,
    A new comer in our e-dialogue raised some questions which I should answer:-
    ( 1)May I ask u kindly in this age & era of globalization,capitalism,materialism & consumerism how much relevance caste,religion,linguism etc holds in present
    day society???
    My answer is :- I am of the same opinion that varna system created by Brahma and preserved by castiest Brahmins is the main hurdle in our socio-economic development .But neither your good self nor the Brahmins condemn the creators of this worst ever system in the world .This system is not religious system .The true religion preach brotherhood , equality and liberty in the mankind .Do you think that varna system is in favour of humankind ? Mughals , Britishers rulers can not annihilate this system . Then how will your globalization,capitalism,materialism and consumerism annihilate it unless the active participation of the neglected and rejected society ?
    ( 2 )f u want the dalit community as a whole to come out of their self imposed mental straitjacket & stand up to be counted & respected as one of the important parts of the cogwheel that makes the society run, then they have to remove the blinkers & work wholeheartedly towards that goal.
    My answer is :- The dalit society is not work shirkers .They plant the rice plants in the 40-50 degree celecious temperature in the June month when you people feel hot in the A.C. rooms / offices . But what is theirs pay as compared to you working in the A.Cs.Mr.Sabharwal just retired chief justice of India collected Rs.100/- crores by corruption which was exposed by the media . The supreme court of India instead of punishing that guilty person , announced sentence to some journalists of the daily Mid-Day evening of Mumbai .Why ? Because Mr.Sabharwal is a high caste fellow .Mr.Mulayam Singh Yadav and Ms Mayawati are victims of the same supreme court of India being BC and SC respectively . I am against corruption .What are your views , please ?
    ( 3)One more common thing which I noticed in several of his comments, is his repeated stress on intercaste & intervarna marriages.
    My answer is : – Is there any wrong in these marriages ? Are you in favour or have allergy ? The state govts.are encouraging it and what is wrong if I also do advocacy ? When we celebrate the same festivals every year,then we do not fed up .
    ( 4 )That means by his own admission,the dalit community lacks the former qualities (hardwork,discipline,dedication,commitment etc…etc..) & they require the help of intercaste/intervarna marriages to move up in the social ladder.
    My answer is : – I never wrote like this . We do not need manuwadi social ladder ! You Brahmins married your daughters to SCs IAS / IPS / IFS boys to move up in the highest administration ! Your views are irrational , unethical , anti-nationalism and anti-constitution !
    ( 5 )Man u really suck!.Your attitude sucks big time!.I don’t know what else to say?.
    My answer is : – I purchase 9 daily news papers daily .I do not read a specific news again and again in all news papers . I read the news which are not in other news papers .So you may also read or not read my writing .But you already admitted the reverse ,” I found the comments made by C,L.Chumber extremely interesting.- -Mr C,L.Chumber, going through your comments,it seems that u have quite a reasonable knowledge in caste/varna system from historical perspective & that seems to get your hackles raised time & again.” !!!!!
    ( 6 ) I think there’s a bit of psychological problem in him.
    My ANSWER IS : – I am quite physically and mentally fit . The society does not absorb the revolutionaries . I do not claim to be a revolutionary .All revolutionary are finished by the ruling rotten society but the ruling society had to accept the revolutionary thoughts .The persons who worship and glorify the rapists , racists and fascists as Gods must have confirmed psychological problem in them .If you worship these evils then your good self have a big psychological problem in you . and ( 7 )Maybe he associates brahmins/other upper castes to be fair, smart & good looking (the truth is there’s a significant disproportionate no of them compared to their population percentage) & he feels that through intercaste marriages, some of that qualities might rub onto their darker skin & remove the ugliness through their off springs which might beget the upper caste qualities & somehow that might end their discrimination.
    My ANSWER IS :- Your comments are unethical .This shows the bent of mind of your , your family and your society ! Have your good self ever seen the blackish faces of Rama,Vishnu and Krishna in the calenders .The south Indian Brahmins are blackish .The advance societies in the world have no varna / caste system .You already said ,” May I ask u kindly in this age & era of globalization,capitalism,materialism & consumerism how much relevance caste,religion,linguism etc holds in present
    day society??? ” Now your good self answer to your own answer on inter caste marriage ?
    NO ONE IS FAIR WITH ONES SKIN UNLESS ONE IS NOT FAIR IN ONES THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS !!!!! BRAHMINS ARE NOT SO MUCH FAIR IN SKIN AS COMPARED TO MANY GROUPS IN THE WORLD !!!!! THE BRAHMINS AS COMMUNITY ARE WORST IN THE WORLD DUE TO THEIRS WORSHIPING RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS AS GODS AS WELL AS CREATORS AND PRESERVERS OF VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!

  73. hh said

    Chumber-ji’s commenting goes:
    first, he says brahmins are most evil.
    second: he says they must marry non-brahmins enmasse.

    Am wondering if he considers them evil, why does he want to marry them 😀 ?

    Chumber-ji,

    No amount of explaining will help you guys. If you had even attempted to pick up a book to read abt transmigration of souls (if not intrested in making a small attempt in knowing things practically by seeking a guru), then you wud not be talking like this.

    You do not want to look at things in any way; but a politician’s way.

    You brought things down to the cheapest level of talking abt satisfying stuff. This comment sucks big time. And shows your demeaning cheapskate way of thinking. Its sick talking to you.

    Thankyou for making me realize what a dumb idiot and a fool i have been in allowing myself to waste time like this.

    Good-bye and Good-luck being stuck.

  74. Devender said

    All this is very silly.

  75. C,L.CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPY HINDU WORSHIPER OF RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS HAS CONFESSED THAT HE IS DUMB , IDIOT AND ALSO A FOOL WHO WASTED HIS TIME IN E-DIALOUGING !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr.hh @ Happy Hindu @ lavnya said (August 4, 2008 @ 2:23 pm),” Chumber ji’s commenting goes:first, he says brahmins are most evil .Second: he says they must marry non-brahmins enmasse.Am wondering if he considers them evil, why does he want to marry them ?
    MY ANSWER IS : – When Badshah Hamayun lost his kingdom to Sher Shah Suri , he ran away to his country .One day , he went to the forest for hunting with the king of that country .Hamanyu`s Indian soldiers killed a lion so quickly that the king asked Hamanyu how he lost India having so brave soldiers .The king advised Hamanyu to creat blood relations with Indians to be popular .The Hindi poet Ramdhari Singh Dinkar recorded this incident in his book ” Sanskriti Ke Chaar Adhiaye ” ( Four Chapters of Culture ) in which he wrote that when Hamanyu regained India ,he offered Hindu rulers for relationship. The Hindus refused to take Muslim princesses because theirs ( Muslim/Mughals )daughters will rule Hindu generations.Then Hamanyu accepted Hindu daughters . My point of view is that if Brahmins boasted of their superemacy ,they will be isolated and will be future`s untouchables .This is up to them .
    ( 2 ) Chumber-ji,No amount of explaining will help you guys. If you had even attempted to pick up a book to read abt transmigration of souls (if not intrested in making a small attempt in knowing things practically by seeking a guru), then you wud not be talking like this.
    MY ANSWER IS : – We are not discussing transmigration of any individual ..We are discussing transformation of entire Indian society . Your transmigrated gurus are also worshipers of rapist,racist and fascist Gods .An ethical person is a real guru of himself / herself ! I am talking neither unethically nor illegally.
    ( 3 ) You do not want to look at things in any way; but a politician’s way.
    My ANSWER IS :- I am not a leader of any political party and the politicians do not say anything which looses his/her votes . Yes , I am a statesman not politician !
    ( 4 ) You brought things down to the cheapest level of talking abt satisfying stuff. This comment sucks big time. And shows your demeaning cheapskate way of thinking. Its sick talking to you.
    MY ANSWER IS ; – You are a group of two or three persons who wrote by changing theirs fictitious names which is unethical as well as illegal Your like minded having fictitious name Mr./Miss/Mrs. Phoenix_77 ( August 3, 2008 @ 6:00 pm ) said the same things .You have only repeated with some alterations . I had replied ( August 4, 2008 @ 10:03 am ) to Phoenix in details .That is for you also .
    ( 5 )Thank you for making me realize what a dumb idiot and a fool i have been in allowing myself to waste time like this.Good-bye and Good-luck being stuck.
    MY ANSWER IS : – You are repeating the wordings of Phoenix which I replied earlier .THERE IS MY LAST HUMBLE REQUEST TO FOLLOW THE TRUTH AND LEAVE THE UN-TRUTH .THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE OF HONESTY BECAUSE HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY . IN FUTURE , I WILL RESPOND YOU ONLY IF YOU DENOUNCE THE EVIL GODS AND VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM . THANKS FOR YOUR E-DISCUSSION UP TO THIS DAY.BYE BYE.

  76. mesquiteice said

    I cannot imagine how cheap a person must be to talk like this about our own sisters.

    I 100% believe that people who consider girls to be some kind of playing cards should be ashamed of themselves. In fact, no woman would marry such fellows who want to marry a girl for her caste. These guys marry woman on the basis of their caste after marriage, will redicule the woman about her caste.

    I was thinking that intercaste marriage would help end caste system, but unfortunately people here are making politics out of intercaste marriage itself.

    Why dont these people understand that girls are also humans. I am pained to note these people accusing a great thinker like Dr. BR.Ambedkar to have married a woman for such a reason. I thought (and still believe) it was out of love for that woman. I am sure Dr. Ambedkar would never have had such ideas. Now some people are telling that it is for the love of her caste.

    I am sure that reponses to this mail would involve referances from comics and stories and would not be to the point. Please dont.

    I think we should nip anti-woman propaganda in the bud.

    PLEASE PROTECT THE DIGNITY OF OUR SISTERS.

    JAI HIND

  77. C,L.CHUMBER said

    HINDUISM IS THE GREATEST OBSTACLE TO HINDU UNITY-B.R.AMBAWDEKAR !!!!!
    ***** IF HINDUS WISH TO BE A ONE ,THEY WILL HAVE TO DISCARD HINDUISM. THEY CAN NOT BE ONE WITHOUT VIOLATING HINDUISM .HINDUISM IS THE GREATEST OBSTACLE TO HINDU UNITY . HINDUISM CAN NOT CREATE THAT LONGING TO BELONG WHICH IS THE BASIS OF ALL UNITY .ON THE CONTRARY HINDUISM CREATES AN EAGERNESS TO SEPARATE . ( IN HIS BOOK ” WHAT CONGRESS AND GANDHI HAVE DONE TO THE UNTOUCHABLES ” , JAN.1991, MUMBAI , PAGE 187)

  78. C,L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE PROTECT THE DIGNITY OF ALLWOMEN FROM THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr. Mesquiteice said ( August 8, 2008 @ 10:47 am ) ,” I cannot imagine how cheap a person must be to talk like this about our own sisters. ” I refute his charges as baseless and will reply one by one .
    ( 1 ) I 100% believe that people who consider girls to be some kind of playing cards should be ashamed of themselves.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I REGARD THE WOMEN VERY MUCH THAT IS WHY I AM EXPOSING THE RAPIST GODS BUT HE NEVER CONDEMNED THE RAPIST GODS .HIS GOD KRISHNA WAS A FAST FRIEND OF THE PANDVAS WHO CONSIDERED THEIRS COMMON WIFE MS.DAROPADI AS PLAYING CARDS AND LOST HER TO THE KAURVAS IN GAMBLING . I STRONGLY CONDEMN IT.WILL HE CONDEMN IT ? WILL HE BE ASHAMED OF KARISHNA AND HIS GAMBLER FRIENDS ? ( 2 )In fact, no woman would marry such fellows who want to marry a girl for her caste. These guys marry woman on the basis of their caste after marriage, will redicule the woman about her caste.
    MY ANSWER IS : – EVERY WOMAN / MAN WANTS A CHOICE THAT IS WHY THE INTERCASTE / INTER-VARNA MARRIAGES ARE INCREASING IN INDIA .
    ( 3 ) I was thinking that intercaste marriage would help end caste system, but unfortunately people here are making politics out of intercaste marriage itself.
    MY ANSWER IS :- WHAT IS POLITICS IN INTERCASTE MARRIAGE ? YOU MAY GET AT LEAST ONE FAMILY MEMBER INTERCASTE MARRIED ACCORDING TO YOUR FAMILY STATUS ! PANDIT MADAN MOHAN MALVIYA ASKED THE BRAHMINS TO GET ONE MEMBER OF THEIRS FAMILY CONVERTED TO SIKHISM TO LIBERATE COUNTRY. I REQUEST YOU ALSO GET ONE PERSON OF YOUR FAMILY MARRIED TO SC , ST,OBC AND RELIGIOUS MINORITY TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY A WORLD POWER !
    ( 4 ) Why dont these people understand that girls are also humans.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GIRLS ARE NOT ONLY HUMANS , I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIRS SOCIO-ECONOMIC PROGRESS WILL ANNIHILATE THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM WHICH AGAINST WOMEN ! ( 5 ) I am pained to note these people accusing a great thinker like Dr. BR.Ambedkar to have married a woman for such a reason. I thought (and still believe) it was out of love for that woman. I am sure Dr. Ambedkar would never have had such ideas. Now some people are telling that it is for the love of her caste.
    MY ANSWER IS : – WHETHER IT WAS OUT OF LOVE OR OUT OF HATE , THEY HAD EQUAL STATUS .THEY BOTH CHALLENGED THE BRAHMA`S CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AT HIGH LEVEL .THE INDIAN GOVT.MUST AMEND THE CONSTITUTION TO RESERVE THE ALL GOVT./SEMI GOVT. JOBS FOR SUITABLE INTERCASTE / INTER-VARNA MARRIED COUPLES UNDER CREAMY LAYER TO ANNIHILATE THIS FILTHY CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!! MAHATMA GANDHI AND PANDIT NEHRU GOT THEIRS CHILDREN IN ANOTHER CASTES .
    ( 5 ) I am sure that reponses to this mail would involve referances from comics and stories and would not be to the point. Please dont.
    MY ANSWER IS ;-NO NEED TO GIVE / READ REFERENCES .
    ( 6 ) I think we should nip anti-woman propaganda in the bud.
    MY ANSWER IS :- WHAT KIND OF ANTI-WOMEN PROPAGANDA ? IT IS NOT AGAINST WOMEN , IT IS AGAINST THOSE GODS WHO RAPED THE INNOCENT AND PIOUS WOMEN . IT IS AGAINST THE FASCIST GODS WHO DESERTED EVEN THEIRS OWN WIVES TO SAVE THEIRS CHAIRS / DESIGNATIONS OF GODS !!!!!
    ( 7 ) PLEASE PROTECT THE DIGNITY OF OUR SISTERS. JAI HIND
    MY ANSWER IS : – IF THERE IS ANY DANGER TO YOUR SISTERS , WE ARE WITH YOU . PLEASE INFORM THE POLICE TO PROTECT YOUR SISTERS .
    PLEASE JOIN US TO
    PROTECT THE DIGNITY OF ALL WOMEN FROM THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!

  79. mequiteice said

    Chumber Ji,

    I specifically requested not to talk about gods and their stories. you are again talking about pandavas and other stories.

    I agree partly, in the sense that i am also not in support of polyandry. I am told that it is because of this mistake that pandavas suffered so much. but anyway a story is a story.

    You asked what kind of anti-woman propaganda?

    The blog intro says “If you want to finish the brahmins then marry the Brahmin women. Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna”

    My Reply: If you have problem with manu/brahma / krishna go and fight with them. why are you dragging our sisters into this fight. what did they do?

    WHY ARE YOU ASKING PEOPLE TO MARRY A GIRL, JUST FOR HER CASTE.

    WHY SHOULD NOT GIRLS MARRY A BRAHMIN. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FEELING AND WILL MARRY WHOEVER THEY LIKE. WHO ARE YOU TO TELL WHOM THEY SHOULD MARRY.

    I WANT TO TELL ALL SISTERS, TO BEWARE OF PEOPLE WHO COME AND OFFER MARRIAGE PROPOSAL FOR INTERCASTE MARRAIGE.

    DEAR SISTERS, THESE GUYS WANT TO MARRY YOU NOT FOR YOUR LOVE, BUT ONLY FOR YOUR CASTE. THEY WANT TO USE YOU FOR POLITICAL MILEAGE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ONE THING, I AM NOT TELLING ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MARRY INTERCASTE ARE BAD. I AM ONLY TELLING BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT GETTING CAUGHT BETWEEN THE DEVIL(CASTE SYSTEM) AND DEEP BLUE SEA (POLITICS).

    YOU ARE TELLING THAT THE GODS ARE RAPIST / RACIST AND FASCIST BASED ON STORIES THAT THEY DID NOT RESPECT WOMEN. BE IT AS IT MAY

    WHY ARE YOU ALSO DOING THE SAME MISTAKE? PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.

  80. C.L.CHUMBER said

    WE WILL INITIATE INTER-CASTE MARRIAGES AMONG SCHEDULED CASTES AND MOST OBCs !!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    MR.Mequiteice said ( August 13, 2008 @ 9:10 am ) REPEATED THE ALMOST SAME WHICH I REPLIED EARLIER ( August 11, 2008 @ 12:37 pm ) .I HAVE ADVOCATED THE INTERCASTE / INTERVARNA MARRIAGES TO CREATE HARMONY AMONG THE DIFFERENT WARRING GROUPS OF INDIA .WHAT IS WRONG IN IT ? I AM SUGGESTING NOT DICTATING .BABA SANT RAM B.A. OF THE KUMHAR CASTE AND AN ARYA SAMAJISTOF PUNJAB LAUNCHED THE JAAT PAAT TODAK MANDAL TO DO INTERCASTE MARRIAGES AMONG THE ARYA SAMAJISTS .HE MARRIED HIS DAUGHTER IN A CHADHA FAMILY .BUT IN A MEETING WITH ME IN DEC.1984 AT HIS DAUGHTER`S RESIDENCE AT DELHI THAT HE MUST DID THE INTERCASTE MARRIAGES AMONG SCs AND MOST OBCs.DR.AMBAWDEKAR`S BOOK ” ANNIHILATION OF CASTE ” WAS A PREPARED SPEECH TO BE DELIVERED IN THE JAAT PAAT TODAK MANDAL FUNCTON AT LAHORE WHICH WAS NEVER DELIVERED AND NO FUNCTION WAS HELD INCLUDING THAT.
    SO WE WILL ARRANGE INTERCASTE MARRIAGES AMONG SCs AND MOST OBCs.PLEASE YOU PEOPLE BEWARE OF BROTHERHOOD .WHAT CAN WE DO ?

  81. mesquiteice said

    Chumber Ji,

    If you are suggesting that anybody can marry anybody, I support your views.

    Dalit nation said in the intro to this blog “Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna”

    We should request dalit nation not to talk about personal matters of any person especially the founding father of our constitution. He had done so much good. We should respect him.

    Thanks

  82. C,L.CHUMBER said

    INTERCASTE MARRIAGES WILL ANNIHILATE THE VARNA/CASTE SYSTEM !!!!
    Dear Viewrs ,
    Once Dr.Lekh Raj Parwna dy.secretary,Punjab Vidhan Sabha asked me why the Hinduism is so much against women and intercaste marriages. I quickly replied that the Aryans( Brahmins,Kashattriyas,Vaishes ) migrated to India from Central Asia .They invaded India and destroyed the Indus Valley Civilisation based on equality,liberity,fraternity and justice which Guru Ravidas expressed as ” Be-gam pura “. When Aryans setteled here,they abducted the aboriginal ladies as wives .In the Manu Simrity,the Brahmins had right to even rape the ladies of other three varnas` ladies .The Kshattriyas had right to rape the vaish and shudra ladies .The Vaish had right to rape shudra ladies .But the shudras had no right to rape the Brahmin ladies or another varnas`ladies. Mr.Manu wrote that if a shudra raped a Brahmin lady,his pinus must be cut off .I think that is why the Dalitnation blog said ,”Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna”
    Dr.Ambedkar did inter-varna marriage.We should respect him and his Brahmin wife by promoting intercaste and inter-varna marriages to annihiliate this evil system !!!! Thanks.

  83. h said

    ~~INTERCASTE MARRIAGES WILL ANNIHILATE THE VARNA/CASTE SYSTEM !!!!
    Dear Viewrs ,
    Once Dr.Lekh Raj Parwna dy.secretary,Punjab Vidhan Sabha asked me why the Hinduism is so much against women and intercaste marriages. I quickly replied that the Aryans( Brahmins,Kashattriyas,Vaishes ) migrated to India from Central Asia .They invaded India and destroyed the Indus Valley Civilisation based on equality,liberity,fraternity and justice which Guru Ravidas expressed as ” Be-gam pura “. When Aryans setteled here,they abducted the aboriginal ladies as wives .In the Manu Simrity,the Brahmins had right to even rape the ladies of other three varnas` ladies .The Kshattriyas had right to rape the vaish and shudra ladies .The Vaish had right to rape shudra ladies .But the shudras had no right to rape the Brahmin ladies or another varnas`ladies. Mr.Manu wrote that if a shudra raped a Brahmin lady,his pinus must be cut off .I think that is why the Dalitnation blog said ,”Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna”
    Dr.Ambedkar did inter-varna marriage.We should respect him and his Brahmin wife by promoting intercaste and inter-varna marriages to annihiliate this evil system !!!! Thanks.~~
    ————

    Since you talk abt Indus Valley Civilization (IVC), i wish to tell you this:

    Those that came from Central Asia were not really “Aryans” – they were nomadic tribes. But they had their own faith as well. Most northern Indians (irrespective of dalit or not dalit) are part of these nomadic tribes. Because of inter-tribal wars and intra-tribal fights, they pushed each other beneath themselves (struggle for existance + struggle for dominance). This is how ‘dalits’ might have been created. This is to say ‘dalits’ depending on the region may not all be the ‘aborigines’ of this country.

    Aryans cultures are native Indian cultures. The concepts that became present day Hinduism was developed by both, the earlier ancient Indo-Iranian farming settlements (who might have created settlements by mating with the existing native hunting . fishing tribes) with later additions from the central asian nomads from the steppes.

    The mixing of the indo-iranian groups + central asian groups + native tribal groups (hunters, fishermen, etc), at varying levels seems to have resulted in a sustained chaotic fluid model of different occupation groups.

    All during this time and even post buddhism, people were still fluid units – they could choose their profession or continue their father’s job. The number of jobs available for various people to do were also limited as compared to now.

    If one tribe lost a fight, they cud move to an ally kingdom and make a living doing simple jobs. To gain closeness to the rulers, they might have also professed the faith of the rulers. And then changed jobs when they found something more lucarative to do.

    There are many places in the north associated with various events. But the people who lived in those places when those events took place may not be all the present inhabitants of those places, they cud have been the people who were displaced from those places.

    Each tribe had their own wise men and when the tribe moved, these wise men or men of knowledge whom we call ‘brahmins’ also moved from place to place.

    The smarthas trace their origins to 700-1000AD. Before that ‘brahmin’ might have been a generic term indeed. Anyone cud have been a brahmin. In a given tribe, a brahmin might have been a spiritual service providing shaman, a medicineman, a weather man who decided in which direction the tribe must move, a story-teller, a scribe, an artist and so on.

    As people became more and more ‘civilized’, their keen learning sense resulted in ‘brahmins’ as well – men who studied astronomy, produced vedic mathematics texts, dissected dead bodies, studied and made herbal medicine, performed surgeries, etc. The ancient ‘brahmins’ indeed represented the civilization peak of their own tribe. But it is very much possible that ‘brahmins’ of yore were different from present day brahmins.

    Ex: Aryabhatta, the astronomer was either a foot soilder or considered a ‘brahmin’ for his intellectual work. If he had descendents or students, where did they go? Similarly where did the students of Yami (Yama’s sister), Lopamudra (agastya’s wife), and a good many others..those who contributed to the Rigved disappear?

    For all you know, maybe you are a descendent of Valmiki or some other ‘brahmin’ (biologically) but got defeated by a stronger tribe and lost your identity.

    Some tribes followed the democracy model, meaning the king would be the best man elected from the group – these tribal janapadas may obviously not have followed the 4-varna system. But they must have had their wise men as did everyone else but as a non-heredity position.

    Some tribes followed the heredity model and it might be possible that calcification of occupations began from these tribes. However, it has been recorded in the south that even during the maratha times, the concept of caste was still vague.

    People generally over time stuck to the same occupation group. But if they did not do well, switching jobs was not at all uncommon.

    Those that originally came from the democracy tribal model (like the sakas or kambhojas – the allied tribes of ‘dravida’) must have been confused about what ‘caste’ or ‘varna’ to report to the colonialists who sought to fit all jatis into the 4 varnas.

    Whatever information you may come across, for good or bad, i hope the spirit is more in the spirit of enquiry to sit and laugh about it together as friends, not to belittle or trash any one community.

    Everyone’s origins are circumspect and possibly God made it that way so that we find reason and meaning to seek out our true selves from within, instead of depending on an identity outside of us that will be dead and gone once this body is also gone.

    Again i request you not to judge what various men wrote – they are just scriptures.

    I see Ram as God because i see some superhuman qualities in Him, same goes for Krishna — we do not worship the father of Ram or Krishna or their 1000s of relatives, but just these 2 specific persons; and for good reason. Perhaps it is true that Ram and Krishna were tribal heros described by some writers in limited terms, but i have added on my divinity to them because that is what i want to experiance — the whole world is a cosmic experiance, if you see it that way….

    Please i request you, kindly do not belittle people or ask them to denounce what they cannot denounce, because what you are asking people to denounce is actually the part of their nature – the part of their energy to sense and to seek.

  84. h said

    i hope you also understand that present day brahmins are spiritual service providers.

    they represent the continuity of the old cultures; developed at various levels in ancient times by various inter-mixing tribes, that later became endogamous units.

    as a hindu, i will always need a priest.

    please do not ask me to go against them. i will not.

  85. C,L.CHUMBER said

    WE DO NOT NEED CARTS , WE NEED SATELITES , SUPERSONIC AEROPLANES !
    Dear Viewrs Mr.Happy Hindu @ h said ( August 21, 2008 @ 9:26 am ) ,” i hope you also understand that present day brahmins are spiritual service providers.”
    My Answer is :- The people are in dire need of bread,clothes and home not spirtuality of manuwadi type.Gur Kabir said in a couplet to his True God that he can not meditate with an empty belly , please take this string of beads !
    ( 2 )they represent the continuity of the old cultures; developed at various levels in ancient times by various inter-mixing tribes, that later became endogamous units.
    My answer is :- Your old culture was manuwadi culture which is injurious to society as expiry dated medicine. Then was an autocracy , now is democracy !
    ( 3 )as a hindu, i will always need a priest..please do not ask me to go against them. i will not.

    My answer is :-There is not a single word Hindu in 4 Vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.The Hindu is a derogatory term given by the Muslims to the Brahmins which means in Persian as Black,thief and African Habshi ! It is your choice to be a Hindu of 4th class shudra as you once wrote that you are a shudra !

  86. hh said

    ~~In the Manu Simrity,the Brahmins had right to even rape the ladies of other three varnas` ladies .The Kshattriyas had right to rape the vaish and shudra ladies .The Vaish had right to rape shudra ladies .But the shudras had no right to rape the Brahmin ladies or another varnas`ladies. Mr.Manu wrote that if a shudra raped a Brahmin lady,his pinus must be cut off .I think that is why the Dalitnation blog said ,”Dalits should marry Brahmin women and take them out of their varna”~~
    —————————————————-

    i have asked you before, please show me where in the manu smrithi did manu give the “right to rape” anyone.

    please think with your sane mind – do you ever think anyone can ever give anyone the “right to rape”.

    it seems to be habit in you to repeat the same “few yardsticks of measurement” (of your own making) despite giving explanation of what a shlok’s meaning could actually be.

  87. correction said

    When i say “But it is very much possible that ‘brahmins’ of yore were different from present day brahmins”, please see it in 2 ways:

    1) The medieval writers that messed up the interpretation of the ‘books’ were not necessarily ancestors of present day brahmins.

    2) When a tribe got defeated by a stronger tribe and lost its identity, where did the brahmins of that tribe go?

    In any case, it is not right to target any one community for the creation of rigid class systems or for the poverty of the country.

  88. mesquiteice said

    Chumber Ji,

    You said” There is not a single word Hindu in 4 Vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.The Hindu is a derogatory term given by the Muslims to the Brahmins which means in Persian as Black,thief and African Habshi ! It is your choice to be a Hindu of 4th class shudra as you once wrote that you are a shudra !”

    My answer: Factually i cannot comment because i have not completely analysed 4 vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.

    But I can tell you one thing is that I agree with you partly. Hindu is not a word that means some caste/race/creed. It refers to people who lived near the river “Sindhu” and Indus. It has a geographical referance. That is why our country is known as “Hindustan” and “India”. It is also “Bharat” because it was ruled by king BHARAT.

    I would like to know if Buddism defines what is buddhism. I know that it only talks of what buddha preached.

    I would like to know if Christianity defines what is Christianity. I know that it only talks of what christ preached.

    Also let me know if any other religion defines itself.

  89. mesquiteice said

    H,

    I also wonder if anyone can have a right to “RA**”. This appears to be wrong somewhere.

    Maybe we should find what the meaning of “Ra**” was in the scripture explained by Chumber(assuming that chumber is speaking the truth).

    I suppose it may have been that except brahmins others had the right to have more than one wife, which is because brahmins were expected to be of a level of self restraint (this is only my guess).

    but right to “Ra*e” is atrocious to say the least.

  90. hh said

    ~My Answer is :- The people are in dire need of bread,clothes and home not spirtuality of manuwadi type.Gur Kabir said in a couplet to his True God that he can not meditate with an empty belly , please take this string of beads !~

    i completely agree with you. Bhuke peth bhajan na hoyay gopala – a starved man cannot pray (unless he’s a yogi). But will targetting one community help? Will it not help more to gain skills and education? If yours is a fight against poverty, i am very much with you. i think everyone is with you.

    ~My answer is :- Your old culture was manuwadi culture which is injurious to society as expiry dated medicine. Then was an autocracy , now is democracy !~

    You seem to think that anything that is hindu is manuwadi culture. That is a highly wrong statement. Please try just once to know and to seek Mata Amritanandamayi – She is the best saint to hug you and heal you with love – by reading about Her, i hope your questions on what is a hindu also gets answered.
    Manusmrithi: Manu was from the “dravida” tribe (please keep the word “dravida” meaning a region, seperate from “dravida” meaning a tribe). “Dravida” was a tribe of the north, later of the vindhyas. In fact many say “dravida” was the so-called arya tribe that went inwards into tamilnadu. How can you be so sure that Manu was not your ancestor?

    ~My answer is :-There is not a single word Hindu in 4 Vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.The Hindu is a derogatory term given by the Muslims to the Brahmins which means in Persian as Black,thief and African Habshi ! It is your choice to be a Hindu of 4th class shudra as you once wrote that you are a shudra !~

    is there a single word in sanskrit that is used to define itself….when people write things, they do not describe themselves, they describe things around them. Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Persian and African gave to us. How can they – when we Indians are Indo-Persians and African ourselves. Do you think an African will call an African as Black or a Persian will call himself as Thief. Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.

    Hindu = Hi + Sindhu = land between the Himalayas and Sindh / Bindu Sarover (Indian ocean).

    Yes if it my choice to be a shudra, so be it. Because i know what i am, that’s why i call myself that. also i know i will be a ‘brahmin’ next – someone told me that and i do beleive it. Infact if you wish to call everyone dalits, i want to tell you that i am already calling myself a dalit – but is that what we want?

    Various explanations have already been given.

    I have this to ask:
    Why are you people repeatedly calling yourselves “dalit and downtrodden” (goes together) ? What are you seeking to achieve by always calling yourself that?

    Does all not seem like nonsense (not making any sense) to you?

  91. correction said

    ~My answer is :-There is not a single word Hindu in 4 Vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.The Hindu is a derogatory term given by the Muslims to the Brahmins which means in Persian as Black,thief and African Habshi ! It is your choice to be a Hindu of 4th class shudra as you once wrote that you are a shudra !~

    A small part of my explanation above is inaccurate reg this question. Hence this:

    Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Muslim from Persia gave to us. When a good many Indians are indo-persians, how can a Persian call himself as Thief, Black or African Habshi.

    This shows how degraded the minds of the ones who connoted this meaning are (irrespective of if it were the indian muslims or the present day anti-hindus who cooked this up ).

    You are living in India (Hi+Sindhu land), are you a Thief? What is wrong in being a African Habshi (slave) ? There are many people who are fondly called Krishna or the dark-one (me too was called so as a kid). What is wrong in being black?

    Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.

  92. hh said

    deleted?

  93. Sridhar. K said

    Chumberji,
    You are going to be the next Hitler.
    Good luck.

  94. Sridhar. K said

    Chumber ji,
    You are a real cock-sucker next to Bheemji. Long live the suckers of reservation.
    Soon please bring out the following law.
    1. When a Harijan is present at the cricket field holding his bat, it is a Six.
    2. When a Harijan is holding the ball it is a wicket.
    3. Since he is an oppressed, the boundry for him comes with hitting the ball to the
    inner circle
    How

  95. h said

    mesquiteice,

    this rape talk comes from evil sick people.

    listening to them is enuf to make one lose sleep for a decade if not the whole life.

    if they openly talk about rape like this, and use it as a tool to endorse (in my opinion “threaten”) women into marriage “to remove them from varna”, don’t i have the right to file a public interest litigation against them?

    Even a dead man’s soul to prevent attachment to his dead body is reminded “ram naam satya hai” – ram’s name is the only truth – who are these people to tell me who i shd not worship. Krishna’s vishwaroopam was shown to arjuna only after arjuna had completely dropped himself, but can any explanation help these people? who gave them the right to tell me i cannot worship krishna.

    if invoking narayana sends a shiver down my spine, can i help it? esp when i dunno if i have any control on myself or not.

    what makes these politicians think, they can interfere in anyone’s faith, anyone’s lives?

  96. posting again said

    h said,
    August 25, 2008 @ 9:27 am

    mesquiteice,

    this rape talk comes from evil sick people.

    listening to them is enuf to make one lose sleep for a decade if not the whole life.

    if they openly talk about rape like this, and use it as a tool to endorse (in my opinion “threaten’ ) women into marriage “to remove them from varna”, don’t i have the right to file a public interest litigation against them?

    Even a dead man’s soul to prevent attachment to his dead body is reminded “ram naam satya hai” – ram’s name is the only truth – who are these people to tell me who i shd not worship.

    Krishna’s vishwaroopam was shown to arjuna only after arjuna had completely dropped himself, but can form of explanation help these people? who gave them the right to tell me i cannot worship krishna.

    if invoking narayana sends a shiver down my spine, can i help it? esp when i dunno if i have any control on myself or not.

    what makes these politicians think, they can interfere in anyone’s faith, anyone’s lives?

    h said,
    August 25, 2008 @ 9:29 am
    i dunno why this wink icon comes up with apostrophe and bracket close – it was not intended to be there.

  97. h said

    ~My answer is :-There is not a single word Hindu in 4 Vedas, 18 Puranas , Upnishads,Ramayna ,Simirities and Mahabharat etc.The Hindu is a derogatory term given by the Muslims to the Brahmins which means in Persian as Black,thief and African Habshi ! It is your choice to be a Hindu of 4th class shudra as you once wrote that you are a shudra !~

    There is !!

    1) Brihanardi Puran:

    Himalayan Samabhya Yavat Binusarovaram,
    Hindusthanmati Gyatam Hii Antarakshar Ayogatah.[6]

    It means the country between the Himalayas and Bindu Sarovar is Hindusthan so combining the first letter Hi of Himalayas and last compound letter Ndu of word Bindu forms Hindu so purely and simply this is a Sanskrit word.

    (is also mentioned in the Nardeeya Puran the short version of Brihannardi Puran).

    Other puranas:

    2) Sapta sindhu muthal sindhu maha samudhram vareyulla bharatha bhoomi aarkkellamaano | Mathru bhoomiyum pithru bhoomiyumayittullathu, avaraanu hindukkalaayi ariyappedunnathu||

    meaning: (nice one) – whoever considers the land of Bharatha Bhoomi between Saptha Sindhu and the Indian Ocean as his motherland and fatherland is known as Hindu.

    3) Aaasindo sindhu paryantham yasyabharatha bhoomikah|
    Mathrubhuh pithrubhoochaiva sah vai hindurithismrithaah||

    meaning: whoever considers the land of bharatha bhoomi as his motherland and fatherland is known as Hindu.

    Chumber-ji,

    The true meaning of all 3 verses above is that those who do not want to accomodate hindu faith should be sent out of the country. They can practice Adi-Dharam in Afghanisthan (central asia) under the Taliban.

  98. h said

    Mesquiteice,

    Went thru all of MANU SMRITHI – http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/manu.htm

    THERE IS NO MENTION OF RAPE OR FORCING ONESELF ON A GIRL OR FORCED MARRIAGE ANYWHERE.

    There are some interpolations and things unacceptable in present times regarding the big age difference prescribed b/w brides and grooms; but MARRIAGE WAS UPHELD AS THE HIGHEST SANCTITY. One quote:

    Chapter 9:
    101. ‘Let mutual fidelity continue until death,’ this may be considered as the summary of the highest law for husband and wife.

    CHUMBER-JI,

    Now, i really am expecting an explanation from you.

    In fact, i demand an explanation – why are you misquoting this book as regards the “right to rape”.

    Who has taught you about the “right to rape”?

    Why does it apply to “brahmin” community?

    Who asked you to quote the Manusmriti in that regard?

    And why do you propagate this idea without even reading the manusmrithi ?

    And why do you use it to threaten women into politically-prescribed-forced marriages ?

    MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS.

  99. h said

    Manu Smrithi – Chapter 3:

    56. Where women are honoured, there the gods are pleased; but where they are not honoured, no sacred rite yields rewards.

    57. Where the female relations live in grief, the family soon wholly perishes; but that family where they are not unhappy ever prospers.

    58. The houses on which female relations, not being duly honoured, pronounce a curse, perish completely, as if destroyed by magic.

    Chapter 8:

    323. For stealing men of noble family and especially women and the most precious gems, the offender deserves corporal or capital punishment.

  100. C . L. CHUMBER said

    HARIJAN IS DEROGATORY AND ILLEGAL TERM FOR SCHEDULED CASTES !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr.Sridhar. K said ( August 24, 2008 @ 4:19 am ),” Chumber ji,
    You are a real cock-sucker next to Bheemji. Long live the suckers of reservation.
    Soon please bring out the following law.
    1. When a Harijan is present at the cricket field holding his bat, it is a Six.
    2. When a Harijan is holding the ball it is a wicket.
    3. Since he is an oppressed, the boundry for him comes with hitting the ball to the inner circle .How .”
    Dear Sridhar ji ! Which Bheem ji ? Dr. Bhim Rao Ram Ji Ambawdekar or Mahabharat`s Bhim ? We are subjects of Dr.Bhim`s constitution ! The reservation is a constitutional right .Don`t make fun of your self by making fun of constitutional provisions. You are making fun of SCs which is an offence and put you behind bars for some years .
    You also used term Harijan for SCs which is derogatory and banned by the Central and State governments .This may also put you behind bars ! You made fun of SCs again .This confirms your rotten mind ! There is no Brahmin Medalist in the Beizing Olympic 2008 ! India stood at 50th place due to the Krishna`s Arjunas ! Don`t boast .Don`t talk like a beast .Be civilized .

  101. C . L. CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPY HINDU & MR.CORRECTION ARE ONE SIDE OF A COIN !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    You will be glad to know that I am reproducing two writings of Mr.HH @ Happy Hindu @ Lavnya and Mr.Correction which confirms that these are written by a person . Why do they ( he ) like this ? Why not they( he ) write theirs / his true name(s)/ ? Please read and judge : –
    Mr. hh said,( August 22, 2008 @ 9:45 am ),”is there a single word in sanskrit that is used to define itself….when people write things, they do not describe themselves, they describe things around them. Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Persian and African gave to us. How can they – when we Indians are Indo-Persians and African ourselves. Do you think an African will call an African as Black or a Persian will call himself as Thief. Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.”
    Mr.CORRECTION said ( August 22, 2008 @ 10:31 am ) ,” Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Muslim from Persia gave to us. When a good many Indians are indo-persians, how can a Persian call himself as Thief, Black or African Habshi.
    This shows how degraded the minds of the ones who connoted this meaning are (irrespective of if it were the indian muslims or the present day anti-hindus who cooked this up ).
    Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.”
    TWO LINES ARE SAME : -( 1 ) Hindu means a thief is a meaning that NOT a single – –
    ( 2 ) And one Chiefminister even repeates it !!!!!

  102. h said

    blog admin,

    i think you are moderating comments on this blog. that is fine. but why do some posts disappear after a while and then appear again. is there something wrong in the blog settings?

  103. h said

    Chumber-ji,

    You have a wonderful level of stupidity.

    I have no idea what you mean to convey in your post like this, simply by repeating a correction.

    ———————————————–
    MR.HAPPY HINDU & MR.CORRECTION ARE ONE SIDE OF A COIN !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    You will be glad to know that I am reproducing two writings of Mr.HH @ Happy Hindu @ Lavnya and Mr.Correction which confirms that these are written by a person . Why do they ( he ) like this ? Why not they( he ) write theirs / his true name(s)/ ? Please read and judge : –
    Mr. hh said,( August 22, 2008 @ 9:45 am ),”is there a single word in sanskrit that is used to define itself….when people write things, they do not describe themselves, they describe things around them. Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Persian and African gave to us. How can they – when we Indians are Indo-Persians and African ourselves. Do you think an African will call an African as Black or a Persian will call himself as Thief. Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.”
    Mr.CORRECTION said ( August 22, 2008 @ 10:31 am ) ,” Hindu means thief is a meaning that NOT a single Muslim from Persia gave to us. When a good many Indians are indo-persians, how can a Persian call himself as Thief, Black or African Habshi.
    This shows how degraded the minds of the ones who connoted this meaning are (irrespective of if it were the indian muslims or the present day anti-hindus who cooked this up ).
    Anti-Hindus of India gave these meanings to themselves. And one Chiefminister even repeats it.”
    TWO LINES ARE SAME : -( 1 ) Hindu means a thief is a meaning that NOT a single – –
    ( 2 ) And one Chiefminister even repeates it !!!!!
    ————————————–

    You did not go thru the rest of the posts?

    Do not ever assume you are the only person who knows to give warnings to others and behave like a depraved bozo.

    Nobody is making fun of those poor SCs. We are making fun of You.

    You keep asking for my name again and again: I am saving you the hassle of a legal notice since i think it will be too messy for you. I do not live in India and except a battalion of old people (and few young ones on the way out), nobody in my family lives there anymore. That does not mean none of us will come back – atleast i know that i and a few others will return. And we are not cheap to target specific individuals like you since we know there are many-many like you.

    If one senile southie sold his soul and brought things to this stage, do not ever assume what a bunch of us cannot do, since we have neither sold our souls nor are senile. And do not ever mistake my preferance for anonymity as any weakness. You have no idea what people can do silently. You are making a mistake by taking people for granted. And making a bigger mistake by mistaking politeness for weakness.

    I am asking you for an explanation about the “right to rape” which you go about brandishing as a tool to lure / threaten / use politically to endorse marriages that come from your cheapened sick anti-woman casteist mentality.

    Am also asking you about who gave you the right to call a hindu a thief, the right to insult our Gods, the right to trample upon our religious sentiments, the right to insult a specific community, the right to prescribe marriages, the right to throw your weight all around and behave like an insolent nincompoop.

    Where are your answers?

  104. mesquiteice said

    Chumberji,

    so what if same person writes in two names.

    Please answer the points raised by HH regarding manusmrity.

    Please let us know where the manusmrity give people right to “*APE” a woman.

    Based on your comments we will decide about burning manusmrity.

    I also read that Friedrich Nietzsche is noted to have said “Close the Bible and open the Manu Smriti. “It has an affirmation of life, a triumphing agreeable sensation in life and that to draw up a lawbook such as Manu means to permit oneself to get the upper hand, to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living”

  105. C . L .CHUMBER said

    I AM NEITHER HITLER NOR ARYAN !!!!! BRAHMANS AND HITLER ARE / WERE ARYANS !!!!!
    DEAR VIWERS ,
    Mr.Sridhar. K said ( August 23, 2008 @ 5:08 pm ) ,” Chumberji,You are going to be the next Hitler.Good luck.”
    My answer is : – The Brahmans and Hitler boast of being Aryans . Late Hitler killed his opponents in gas chambers . And he suicided .The King Rama also killed the aboriginal Indians like Hitler and he also suicided. I am neither Hitler nor Aryans . I hate both !!!!!

  106. h said

    I AM NEITHER HITLER NOR ARYAN !!!!! BRAHMANS AND HITLER ARE / WERE ARYANS !!!!!
    DEAR VIWERS ,
    Mr.Sridhar. K said ( August 23, 2008 @ 5:08 pm ) ,” Chumberji,You are going to be the next Hitler.Good luck.”
    My answer is : – The Brahmans and Hitler boast of being Aryans . Late Hitler killed his opponents in gas chambers . And he suicided .The King Rama also killed the aboriginal Indians like Hitler and he also suicided. I am neither Hitler nor Aryans . I hate both !!!!!
    ——————————

    Is this your only answer? Where are the answers for the other question?

    Note the following:

    1) It does not matter who came from where. We are all Indians. In some way or the other all Indians are “Aryans”. So are you.

    2) Ram did not kill any aboriginal Indians.

    3) Ram was Narayana and had to go back to merge in water.

    4) Everyone in India has the freedom and the right to pratice whatever form of faith they wish to, without interference from any quarter, unless it is a violent form of faith.

    5) If Hindusim or brahmins are the reason for poverty and slums, then why is Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc loaded with slums?

    6) If people like Chumber-ji want to fight against poverty, everyone is there to support him. But if people like him interefere with our right to practice our faith, then the best place for him to try his “freedom of speech” is Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is free to impose his political version of Adi-Dharm there.

    He can also try Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal if anyone there wants to welcome people like him.

    7) It is only in India that everyone has the right to express their feelings and this freedom is abused. It is because of this that unknowingly many become stooges to anti-indians, without even being aware of what they are exactly leading to.

  107. h said

    Mesquiteice,

    i can write under a 100 diff names – i don’t care. Whats in a name?

    chumber-ji is the one stuck on names, the individual behind the name, the individual’s caste and so on. He will be like that because he is a politician.

    but i want to assure chumberji, that i am a bigger bozo clown than him… heeee-haw…hiya..

    😀
    Ps – why did the govt ban the name harijan – cannot understand this coz i call myself a haridasi. and of late i am calling my parents harijan.

  108. C . L. CHUMBER said

    Mr.H @ Happy Hindu ! I had given the proper reply .Mr.Sridhar K. had no objection .You please concern with your own matter.Are you Sridhar K, or he had authorisd your good self ?

  109. C . L. CHUMBER said

    ALL THE HINDU GODS WERE VIOLENT KINGS TO CRUSH THE VAISH ,SHUDRA AND WOMEN UNDER THE DIRECTIONS OF BARBARIAN BRAHMANS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.H @ Happy Hindu said ( August 27, 2008 @ 4:21 am ) ,” Where are the answers for the other question? Note the following:
    1) It does not matter who came from where. We are all Indians. In some way or the other all Indians are “Aryans”. So are you.
    MY ANSWER IS : – The Manu Simrity confirms Brahmans , Kshattriyas and Vaishyas as twice-born people . It did not recognize women and Shudras as twice-born ! If you are Indian , then why you people hate the aboriginal Indians .We are not Aryans foreigners ! Have you any reliable proof ?
    2) Ram did not kill any aboriginal Indians.
    MY ANSWER IS :- Why are you worshiping the King Rama ? Had you ever read the Valmiki Ramayna`s Uttar Kand in which the King Rama killed an innocent and pious shudar saint Shambuk !!!!! The King Rama implemented the Manu Simrity as dictator that the Brahmans bestowed him a title ” MARYADA PURSHOTAM – THE BEST PERSON OF MANUWADI SYSTEM “.
    3) Ram was Narayana and had to go back to merge in water.
    MY ANSWER IS : – Dr. Revati Raman in his book ” JATIYA MANOBHOOMI KI TALAASH ” ( Bhartiya Gyanpeeth ,New Delhi , 2005 ) wrote ,” Ram is Asur in the Vedas ! — In the Valmiki Ramayna , there is no link between Vishanu and Ram ! He quoted Dr. Ram Kumar Verma ,” There ( Valmiki Ramayna ) Ram from birth to death is a man not incarnation ( of Vishanu ) ! He also quoted Dr. Ram Vilash Sharma ,” In the Valmiki Ramayna , neither there is any relation between Vishanu and Ram nor Ram is incarnation ,” ( page 23 ).Why did not any other Hindu God went back to merge in water like Ram ?
    4) Everyone in India has the freedom and the right to practice whatever form of faith they wish to, without interference from any quarter, unless it is a violent form of faith.
    MY ANSWER IS : – NO ONE IN INDIA HAS THE FREEDOM AND RIGHT TO WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST PERSONS LIVE OR DEAD AS GODS ! ALL THE HINDU GODS AND GODDESSES ARE EXTREMELY VIOLENT !!!!! THEY PARTICIPATED IN WARS AND USED UNETHICAL MEANS TO WON THE WARS . KRISHNA`S GITA IS A ” WAR BOOK ” .RAM KILLED BALI OF KISHKINDHA BY DECISIVE MEANS FOR WHICH HE CONDEMNED RAMA . RAMA WAS MUM ! 5) If Hindusim or brahmins are the reason for poverty and slums, then why is Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc loaded with slums ?
    MY ANSWER IS :- They were part and parcel of India until 15th August , 1947. The most of their citizens migrated from present Indian area and are still infected with Brahmanism !!!!!
    6) If people like Chumber-ji want to fight against poverty, everyone is there to support him. But if people like him interefere with our right to practice our faith, then the best place for him to try his “freedom of speech” is Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is free to impose his political version of Adi-Dharm there.He can also try Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal if anyone there wants to welcome people like him.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I AM INDIAN CITIZEN . WHY DO I GO TO OTHER COUNTRY ? Why do you Hindu people highlight Mrs Taslima of Bangla Desh ? ALTHOUGH I HAVE TWO BROTHERS-IN-LAW , ONE BROTHER AND ONE SISTER-IN-LAW`S FAMILIES IN U.S.A. BUT I NEVER VISITED . WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY FREE FROM BRAHMANISM SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY LIVE LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES .I MAY PREACH MY VIEWS IN EVERY HOOK AND CORNER OF THE WORLD BY WRITING IN ENGLISH . THE ADI-DHARAM PREACHES EQUALITY, LIBERITY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS UNIVERSE / BE-GAM PURA , UNIVERSE FREE FROM SORROWS .
    WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST THE POVERTY OF EQUALITY , LIBERTY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE CREATED BY THE MANUWADI MENTALITY !!!!!

    7) It is only in India that everyone has the right to express their feelings and this freedom is abused. It is because of this that unknowingly many become stooges to anti-indians, without even being aware of what they are exactly leading to.

  110. C . L. CHUMBER said

    WE ARE FIGHTING WITH ANTI-INDIA BRAHMANS WHO STILL ARE ANTI-ABORIGINAL INDIANS .MR.HAPPY HINDU CLAIMS TO BE OBC BUT HE IS THE STOOGE OF THE MANUWADI BRAHMANS , without even being aware of what they / he are exactly leading to. !!!!!

  111. C . L. CHUMBER said

    NOW INDIA IS NOT A HINDU COUNTRY , IT IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY SECULAR AND DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY HAVING ALL ADULTS TO VOTE !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.H @ Happy Hindu said ( August 25, 2008 @ 2:21 pm ),”Chumber-ji,The true meaning of all 3 verses above is that those who do not want to accomodate hindu faith should be sent out of the country. They can practice Adi-Dharam in Afghanisthan (central asia) under the Taliban.”.
    My answer is : – Mr . Happy Hindu is actually an absent mind person .He do not know that now there is a constitution not the Manu Simrity or any other Hindu scripture`s rule . This confirms that the manuwadis are still not Indians .They think that they live in Hindustan !!!!! His views are illogical . Who is he to ask me to preach Adi-Dharam in Afganistan by leaving India ? His these verses are prooves that how the Brahmans dictated the Kshatriya Kings to rule ! The Adi-Dharam is a Santmat . The Adi-Guruvani of few Adi-Gurus in the Sikhs` Guru Granth Sahib had been declared as ALIVE PERSON by the Indian Supreme Court !!!!!
    Mr.Happy Hindu must read the Adi-Dharam`s literature to know the latest modern religion of the world !!!!!

  112. h said

    ~Mr.H @ Happy Hindu ! I had given the proper reply .Mr.Sridhar K. had no objection .You please concern with your own matter.Are you Sridhar K, or he had authorisd your good self ?!~

    Agreed. Am sorry for quoting him and posting a response. Henceforth, i shall respond only to your posts that you direct to me.

  113. h said

    ~~ALL THE HINDU GODS WERE VIOLENT KINGS TO CRUSH THE VAISH ,SHUDRA AND WOMEN UNDER THE DIRECTIONS OF BARBARIAN BRAHMANS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.H @ Happy Hindu said ( August 27, 2008 @ 4:21 am ) ,” Where are the answers for the other question? Note the following:
    1) It does not matter who came from where. We are all Indians. In some way or the other all Indians are “Aryans”. So are you.
    MY ANSWER IS : – The Manu Simrity confirms Brahmans , Kshattriyas and Vaishyas as twice-born people . It did not recognize women and Shudras as twice-born ! If you are Indian , then why you people hate the aboriginal Indians .We are not Aryans foreigners ! Have you any reliable proof ?
    2) Ram did not kill any aboriginal Indians.
    MY ANSWER IS :- Why are you worshiping the King Rama ? Had you ever read the Valmiki Ramayna`s Uttar Kand in which the King Rama killed an innocent and pious shudar saint Shambuk !!!!! The King Rama implemented the Manu Simrity as dictator that the Brahmans bestowed him a title ” MARYADA PURSHOTAM – THE BEST PERSON OF MANUWADI SYSTEM “.
    3) Ram was Narayana and had to go back to merge in water.
    MY ANSWER IS : – Dr. Revati Raman in his book ” JATIYA MANOBHOOMI KI TALAASH ” ( Bhartiya Gyanpeeth ,New Delhi , 2005 ) wrote ,” Ram is Asur in the Vedas ! — In the Valmiki Ramayna , there is no link between Vishanu and Ram ! He quoted Dr. Ram Kumar Verma ,” There ( Valmiki Ramayna ) Ram from birth to death is a man not incarnation ( of Vishanu ) ! He also quoted Dr. Ram Vilash Sharma ,” In the Valmiki Ramayna , neither there is any relation between Vishanu and Ram nor Ram is incarnation ,” ( page 23 ).Why did not any other Hindu God went back to merge in water like Ram ?
    4) Everyone in India has the freedom and the right to practice whatever form of faith they wish to, without interference from any quarter, unless it is a violent form of faith.
    MY ANSWER IS : – NO ONE IN INDIA HAS THE FREEDOM AND RIGHT TO WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST PERSONS LIVE OR DEAD AS GODS ! ALL THE HINDU GODS AND GODDESSES ARE EXTREMELY VIOLENT !!!!! THEY PARTICIPATED IN WARS AND USED UNETHICAL MEANS TO WON THE WARS . KRISHNA`S GITA IS A ” WAR BOOK ” .RAM KILLED BALI OF KISHKINDHA BY DECISIVE MEANS FOR WHICH HE CONDEMNED RAMA . RAMA WAS MUM ! 5) If Hindusim or brahmins are the reason for poverty and slums, then why is Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc loaded with slums ?
    MY ANSWER IS :- They were part and parcel of India until 15th August , 1947. The most of their citizens migrated from present Indian area and are still infected with Brahmanism !!!!!
    6) If people like Chumber-ji want to fight against poverty, everyone is there to support him. But if people like him interefere with our right to practice our faith, then the best place for him to try his “freedom of speech” is Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is free to impose his political version of Adi-Dharm there.He can also try Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal if anyone there wants to welcome people like him.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I AM INDIAN CITIZEN . WHY DO I GO TO OTHER COUNTRY ? Why do you Hindu people highlight Mrs Taslima of Bangla Desh ? ALTHOUGH I HAVE TWO BROTHERS-IN-LAW , ONE BROTHER AND ONE SISTER-IN-LAW`S FAMILIES IN U.S.A. BUT I NEVER VISITED . WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY FREE FROM BRAHMANISM SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY LIVE LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES .I MAY PREACH MY VIEWS IN EVERY HOOK AND CORNER OF THE WORLD BY WRITING IN ENGLISH . THE ADI-DHARAM PREACHES EQUALITY, LIBERITY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS UNIVERSE / BE-GAM PURA , UNIVERSE FREE FROM SORROWS .
    WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST THE POVERTY OF EQUALITY , LIBERTY,FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE CREATED BY THE MANUWADI MENTALITY !!!!!
    7) It is only in India that everyone has the right to express their feelings and this freedom is abused. It is because of this that unknowingly many become stooges to anti-indians, without even being aware of what they are exactly leading to.
    WE ARE FIGHTING WITH ANTI-INDIA BRAHMANS WHO STILL ARE ANTI-ABORIGINAL INDIANS .MR.HAPPY HINDU CLAIMS TO BE OBC BUT HE IS THE STOOGE OF THE MANUWADI BRAHMANS , without even being aware of what they / he are exactly leading to. !!!!!

    NOW INDIA IS NOT A HINDU COUNTRY , IT IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY SECULAR AND DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY HAVING ALL ADULTS TO VOTE !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.H @ Happy Hindu said ( August 25, 2008 @ 2:21 pm ),”Chumber-ji,The true meaning of all 3 verses above is that those who do not want to accomodate hindu faith should be sent out of the country. They can practice Adi-Dharam in Afghanisthan (central asia) under the Taliban.”.
    My answer is : – Mr . Happy Hindu is actually an absent mind person .He do not know that now there is a constitution not the Manu Simrity or any other Hindu scripture`s rule . This confirms that the manuwadis are still not Indians .They think that they live in Hindustan !!!!! His views are illogical . Who is he to ask me to preach Adi-Dharam in Afganistan by leaving India ? His these verses are prooves that how the Brahmans dictated the Kshatriya Kings to rule ! The Adi-Dharam is a Santmat . The Adi-Guruvani of few Adi-Gurus in the Sikhs` Guru Granth Sahib had been declared as ALIVE PERSON by the Indian Supreme Court !!!!!
    Mr.Happy Hindu must read the Adi-Dharam`s literature to know the latest modern religion of the world !!!!!~~

    Since you know ONLY Manusmrithi, I have no answer for you. Infact, now i feel sad for you.

    I feel it is better to be a stooge of a family member that i might alternately argue with and be friends with, rather than to salivate at the ones handing out foreign money. I have reasons for my stand in defending the ones that take care of the hindu faith, and i will stand by it. I can assure you that you are being most highly stupid by calling ‘brahmins’ as anti-india.

    Thankyou for asking me to read Adi-Dharm literature. Could you suggest some books please, where i cud start?

  114. C . L. CHUMBER said

    EVERY INDIAN WHO DO NOT OBEY THE CONSTITUTION IS ANTI-INDIA !!!!!
    BRAHMANS WHO WORSHIP BRAHMA , VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS WHO INVENTED AND PROTECTED CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION
    AND HENCE THE ANTI-INDIA .HE / SHE WILL BE IN FUTURE PUT BEHIND BARS !!

  115. h said

    EVERY INDIAN WHO DO NOT OBEY THE CONSTITUTION IS ANTI-INDIA !!!!!
    BRAHMANS WHO WORSHIP BRAHMA , VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS WHO INVENTED AND PROTECTED CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION
    AND HENCE THE ANTI-INDIA .HE / SHE WILL BE IN FUTURE PUT BEHIND BARS !!
    ————————–

    Mr.Idiot,

    Do you even know what is in the constitution?

    You bark like a rabid dog like a half-baked fool with half-knowledge?

    Sure you need a dog tamer.

  116. mesquiteice said

    Chumber JI,

    DONT LIE

    Constitution has not banned Brahma/vishnu etc

    As far a CASTE SYSTEM IS CONCERNED you are the one who is protecting the varna system even if every body wants to give up.

    Since you seem to understand law so well, you may go and check up with court/police whether TALKING BAD ABOUT OTHERS AND THEIR BELIEFS AND FAITHS which is allowed by the constitution. PLEASE CHECK UP THE LAW AND CLARIFY THE POSITION

  117. posting again said

    EVERY INDIAN WHO DO NOT OBEY THE CONSTITUTION IS ANTI-INDIA !!!!!
    BRAHMANS WHO WORSHIP BRAHMA , VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS WHO INVENTED AND PROTECTED CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION
    AND HENCE THE ANTI-INDIA .HE / SHE WILL BE IN FUTURE PUT BEHIND BARS !!
    ————————-

    Mr.Idiot,

    You will receive practical lessons on what are constitutional rights.

    Do not bark like a rabid dog in the meantime.

    You really need a dog tamer, you misleader scumbag.

  118. A Brahmin said

    You all fucking dalits,
    You wil never be able to conquer the brahmins at any cost. You will be dalits foreever. You dont have brains and that is the reason you people always ask for reservations. And though we the brahmins provide you all the reservations the only thing you can do is the fucking CORRUPTION. After independence, you were the one who were majorly part of all the government departments. That is the reason why indian politics is corrupted and india is still lagging behind. But wait with the imerge of IT, all the talented people that is brahmins are on the top because this require BRAINS – WHICH YOU BLOODY FUCKING PEOPLE DONT HAVE. As you all said you dont want brahmin. A day will come when all the brahmins will be seen settled outside india in US, UK, and elsewhere in developed countries. And Hindustan will be called as Dalitstan. And then you will realize the need of brahmin brains where you will never have it. BRAHMINS ARE THE GREATEST.

    • raj said

      great yaar…………………………..Brahmin the great………………..

  119. h said

    A Brahmin,

    its not true all non-brahmins consider brahmins the greatest…

    no point talking abt specific communities anymore….Let us look forward to a casteless egalitarian society based on meritocracy and equal opportunities for all….

  120. C.L.CHUMBER said

    HOW BRAHMANS CAN BE GREATEST WHO WORSHIP RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS MANUWADI CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ? WILL A CULTURED PERSON/ SOCIETY LIKE A RAPIST ,RACIST AND FASCIST ?? ? ? ?

  121. h said

    HOW BRAHMANS CAN BE GREATEST WHO WORSHIP RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS MANUWADI CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ? WILL A CULTURED PERSON/ SOCIETY LIKE A RAPIST ,RACIST AND FASCIST ?? ? ? ?
    —————-

    We do not want politicians and non-hindus to tell us about our religion.

    You can pack your bags or you can look elsewhere to find something else to bash to make a political career……hindusim will never fit your bill…..just move it man…move it…anyways you are on the way to being petitioned out.

    • i j swamy said

      I am a Supreme Brahmin . So I can rape dalit girls.I believe in racism .Some races have black skin white teeth and red tongue and like pigs as food .I allow you to eat pigs and meat of dead animals, even cows.You poor pathetic dalits can not afford good food . You need permission to eat dead animals .You don`t have houses. Stay in small huts near cemeteries or burial grounds.Wash yourselves in brackish waters .

  122. A Brahmin said

    Well, what I am looking at the same thing. If we are saying that we need castless system, why are there reservations. And why dalits and OBCs are behind it? Please answer me. Babasaheb ambedkar has made it for only 30 yrs so that these fucking idiots will at least come to some level to compete brahmins. After that also they are demanding it to extend. I know the reasons the only thing is dalits have no brains and they are scared that if there is no reservations, the old days will be back. As all brahmins are talented, they will capture all the positions that these fucking idiot people have now with the help of reservations and quota. So they will always demand for same thing — quota quota quota!!!! What say you?

  123. A Brahmin said

    Mr. CHUMBER,
    You are great sir. You are calling our gods ,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL!!!! That is fantastic. Who the fuck are you by the way??? The hinduism is the oldest civilization present on the earth. All the things are copied from our culture only. Islam was totally copied from hinduism. Christian was copied as well. And this I am not saying because I am a hindu. It is the fact. In macca madina, there are sculptures of hindu gods and godesses. Christ use the recki and became famous and subsequently god. But this recki is part of our vedas. So don’t even try to blame it. If you are cursing hinduism, you are cursing yourself. Because all the human beings existing on the earth are someway related to hinduism rather I will say sanatan.

  124. happy-h said

    A brahmin,

    i agree…..

    there is a problem here…and many either gloss over or overlook…

    there are so-called non-brahmin ppl without reservations who have suffered as well….

    rationalists are supposed to be people who do not find any religion good…ppl with communist, etc type of leanings…..but what has happened in reality…

    often whereever rationalists denigrated hindu faith….almost immediately you can see an evangelist stepping in to ‘settle things’….

    now i see that this hindu-bashing has served the interests of many anti-indians…

    who knows this whole reservations things could be one up in the sleeve of these anti-indians……crash down the whole country based on reservations, weaken the military, and then gate-crash into the country….atleast if people like chumber had his way, that’s what the country wud come to…..

    ..what can you expect from people who praise china, praise colonialists, deride freedom fighters, float a political-version of buddhism, want to be dumb-ed-kar worshippers….and then these people are supposed to indians?

  125. C .L . CHUMBER said

    AMBEDKAR @ AMBAWDEKAR WAS A SAINT NOT MANU WAS A SAINT !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Happy Hindu ( Dukhi Ram ) said ( September 11, 2008 @ 6:44 am } ,” now i see that this hindu-bashing has served the interests of many anti-indians
    MY ANSWER IS : – We have discussed the Hindu /Indo-Aryan religion`s rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods and their caste / varna system .The Indian constitution not only banned the practice of caste / varna system but also compensated the sufferers of this unethical socio-economic system by reserve government posts proportionate their percentage to the population of India so that theirs ( SCs , STs , OBCs ) share may be safe from the manuwadis .What is wrong in it ? We are pro constitutional remedies but you are anti constitutional remedies and brand the reserve catagories as beggars .You are anti- India in true sense and may be put behind bares under sedicious charges !!!!!
    ( 2 ) who knows this whole reservations things could be one up in the sleeve of these anti-indians……crash down the whole country based on reservations, weaken the military, and then gate-crash into the country….atleast if people like chumber had his way, that’s what the country wud come to…..
    MY ANSWER IS : – The resrvation policy is not anti-people policy .The anti-reservationists are anti-constitutional as well as anti-India .They must debared from Indian citizenship because they are indulged in the hands of foreign elements to destablise India .The Brahmans must obey the Indian constitution and burn the Manu-simrity in theirs own minds !!!!!
    ( 3 ) ..what can you expect from people who praise china, praise colonialists, deride freedom fighters, float a political-version of buddhism, want to be dumb-ed-kar worshippers….and then these people are supposed to indians?
    MY ANSWER IS : – Who is praising China ? Who praise colonialists ? You Indo-Aryans are the real colonialists who invented the caste / varna system ! You call Dr. Ambedkar @ Ambawdekar as ” dumb-ed-kar ” ! Was he not freedom fighter of Indians ? His drafted constitution rule the country and he manuwadi call him ” dumb-ed-kar ” .and then these people are supposed to indians?
    He ( h said,August 25, 2008 @ 7:04 pm ) ,” MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS “. Adi-Mahaguru had rightly said that the Hindu saints are not saints , they are deceivers of Varanasi . Dr.Ambedkar `s constitution is based on equality , liberity,fraternity and justice .Mr. Happy Hindu ( Dukhi Ram ) has allergy from these equalities that is why he is writting Dr. Ambedkar as ” dumb-ed-kar ” with disrespect and Manu as saint .Therefore Hindu saint is who has believe in Manu-simrity and rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods !!!!! BEWARE OF THE MODERN PERIOD MANUWADI SAINTS WHO ARE ANTI-CONSTITUTION AS WELL AS ANTI-iNDIA !!!!! THEY MUST BE TREATED AS SOCIO-RELIGIOUS TERRORISTS !!!!!!

  126. happyhindu-hh said

    MY ANSWER IS : – We have discussed the Hindu /Indo-Aryan religion`s rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods and their caste / varna system .The Indian constitution not only banned the practice of caste / varna system but also compensated the sufferers of this unethical socio-economic system by reserve government posts proportionate their percentage to the population of India so that theirs ( SCs , STs , OBCs ) share may be safe from the manuwadis .What is wrong in it ? We are pro constitutional remedies but you are anti constitutional remedies and brand the reserve catagories as beggars .You are anti- India in true sense and may be put behind bares under sedicious charges !!!!!
    ———————–

    If govt has banned varna, then you are indulging in an anti-constitutional activity by indulging in caste-based politics and inciting communal divide.

    ————————-
    MY ANSWER IS : – The resrvation policy is not anti-people policy .The anti-reservationists are anti-constitutional as well as anti-India .They must debared from Indian citizenship because they are indulged in the hands of foreign elements to destablise India .The Brahmans must obey the Indian constitution and burn the Manu-simrity in theirs own minds !!!!!
    ————————
    Your stupidity is the only thing that shows again and again. Everyone has already burnt manusmrithi, except you.

    ——————————–
    MY ANSWER IS : – Who is praising China ? Who praise colonialists ? You Indo-Aryans are the real colonialists who invented the caste / varna system ! You call Dr. Ambedkar @ Ambawdekar as ” dumb-ed-kar ” ! Was he not freedom fighter of Indians ? His drafted constitution rule the country and he manuwadi call him ” dumb-ed-kar ” .and then these people are supposed to indians?
    He ( h said,August 25, 2008 @ 7:04 pm ) ,” MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS “. Adi-Mahaguru had rightly said that the Hindu saints are not saints , they are deceivers of Varanasi . Dr.Ambedkar `s constitution is based on equality , liberity,fraternity and justice .Mr. Happy Hindu ( Dukhi Ram ) has allergy from these equalities that is why he is writting Dr. Ambedkar as ” dumb-ed-kar ” with disrespect and Manu as saint .Therefore Hindu saint is who has believe in Manu-simrity and rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods !!!!! BEWARE OF THE MODERN PERIOD MANUWADI SAINTS WHO ARE ANTI-CONSTITUTION AS WELL AS ANTI-iNDIA !!!!! THEY MUST BE TREATED AS SOCIO-RELIGIOUS TERRORISTS !!!!!!
    ————————–

    1) You are an idiot because of your non-sane memory. Please look into your sane memory and be reminded that you are the one that praised the british. Your dalitnation has praised China in its Dalai Lama article.

    2) The british invented the varna system as we know it today – go and sue them. They also knew only manusmrithi, just like you.

    3) Nobody needs to call a dead man any names. But those who suggest worshipping Ambedkar are dumbedkars ofcourse.
    ——————–
    Foolish people understand what is sedition only after they are charged with it.

  127. C .L . CHUMBER said

    RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS CAN NOT BE TRUE GODS .THERE FOLLOWERS ARE ALSO HAVING RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST BENT OF MINDS ! YOU MAY CALL YOUR RELIGION ” RAPIST-RACIST-FASCIST-GODS`RELIGION “. !!!!! YOU PEOPLE ARE SHAMELESS HAVING WORSHIPING SHAITAN GODS !!!!! YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING A TRUE RELIGION . YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE ARISTOCRATE , ANARCHY AND AUTHORITATIVE RELIGION .YOUR RELIGION IS BASED ON CRUELITY , CORRUPTION ( SEXUAL ) AND COMMUNALISM . yOUR GODS ARE VIOLENT , VIRUS AND VEMON FOR NON-BRAHMANS . YOU ARE THREATENING ME TO ELEMINATE ME PHYSICALLY .THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN ? THEN THE CHARGES OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ON YOUR EVIL GODS WILL BE EVAPORATED ?
    YOUR ARROGANCE ENCOURAGES ME THAT I HAVE ARISED THE RIGHT ISSUES WHICH ARE MAIN HURDELS IN THE OVER ALL MENTAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTRY .I WILL NEVER BE THE STOOGE OF THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! I WILL THROW THE RAPIST , RACIST AND RACIST EVIL GODS IN THE GUTTER BECAUSE WE ABORGINAL INDIANS ARE DETERMINED TO ESTABLISH THE INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL SPIRIT IN TRUE SENSE . WE WISH TO AVAIL EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE FROM INCEPTION TO ONWARDS .NOTHING ELSE .

  128. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN ! WILL YOU PLEASE DISCARD RAN-CHHOD ( A PERSON WHO FLED AWAY FROM BATTLE FIELD ) AND RANN-CHHOD ( A PERSON WHO DESERTS HIS WIFE ) KRISHNA ? ? ? ? ?
    A WORSHIPER OF RAN-CHHOD AND RANN-CHHOD HAVE NO ETHICAL VALUE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH ME BECAUSE I HATE RAN-CHHOD AND RANN-CHHOD !!!!!
    MR. KARTHIKEYAN ! WHY DID THE HINDUS DISCARDED THE SHIVA`S REAL SON KARTHIKEYAN AND SHIVA`S WIFE PARVATI AND STARTED WORSHIPING PARVATI`S UN-NATURAL SON GANESHA WITH SARASWATI AND LAXMI ? ? ? ? ? ?

    • jayalatha said

      hi i agree with u mr ch… I am a brahmin women and our caste rituals nothing better than animals. What we want is sexual freedom. I think the brahmin women should be allowed to have sex with other castge men especially dalit men then only sexual liberation of brahmin women tkes place.it is better to be a prostitute for dalit man than a wife for brahmin man. this is sincere feelings of brahmin women.please let me know yr opinion

      • Anand Hosmani said

        You are 100% right

  129. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Who told you that hindus discarded parvati and kartikeyan.

    As i have told you I dont like to talk about stories. but since you insist

    it was Karthikeyan got angry with his father and mother and went away.

  130. hh-hh said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN ! WILL YOU PLEASE DISCARD RAN-CHHOD ( A PERSON WHO FLED AWAY FROM BATTLE FIELD ) AND RANN-CHHOD ( A PERSON WHO DESERTS HIS WIFE ) KRISHNA ? ? ? ? ?
    A WORSHIPER OF RAN-CHHOD AND RANN-CHHOD HAVE NO ETHICAL VALUE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH ME BECAUSE I HATE RAN-CHHOD AND RANN-CHHOD !!!!!
    MR. KARTHIKEYAN ! WHY DID THE HINDUS DISCARDED THE SHIVA`S REAL SON KARTHIKEYAN AND SHIVA`S WIFE PARVATI AND STARTED WORSHIPING PARVATI`S UN-NATURAL SON GANESHA WITH SARASWATI AND LAXMI ? ? ? ? ? ?
    ——————–
    Chumber
    Digging out / cooking up conspiracy theories in the world of gods is the only job you do for a living.

    I already asked you, but you will not give any answer to my questions.

    First you answer those questions (on manusmrithi, law, consotution, legal right, etc) and we will go to your next cooked up stories on Krishna, parvati, Ganesha, etc.

  131. Chumber, more than your babbling your shouting is hurting my eyes. Stop shouting man! Typing in Caps does not drive your useless point. Try and engage in a decent conversation and is logical and accurate with evidence. You seem to be obsessed with rape? What the heck? All you can think of is rape? Please consult a gynecologist, such obsessive repeating of sexual activities in your conversation is a sign of trouble.

  132. C .L . CHUMBER said

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    IT ISSUED SPECIAL ISSUE ( 1-15 SEPT. 2008 ) ON ” GOONS , COPS ,MAGISTRATES , AND BANKS -THE NEW FACES OF RECOVERY AGENTS .THE MADRAS HIGH COURT DISCOVERS A SHOCKING SUBVERSION OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM TO HARASS CITIZENS . YOU COULD BE THE NEXT VICTIM !”
    SOME OF MY MANUWADI FRIENDS BLAMED THAT I CRITYSIZED THE COURTS . I CRITYSIZED THE CORRUPTION IN COURTS IN GAZIABAD ( U.P.) IN WHICH THE 36 JUDGES INCLUDING ONE SITTING JUDGE OF THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA , 10 SITTING JUDGES OF THE U.P.HIGH COURT ( AND THE CASE IS IN THE SUPREME COURT) .EMBEZLED THE G.P.FUND OF THE GOVT.EMPLOYEES !
    I WILL GIVE REPLY IN DETAILS OF THEIRS ( MY MANUWADIS FRIENDS IN E-DIALOGUE ) CHARGESHEET BUT THEY ARE STILL WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM ! CAN THE ANTI-LAW POLICE PERSON / MAGISTRATE ISSUE CHARGESHEET TO OTHERS ? CAN AN UNETHICAL PERSON ISSUE A CHARGESHEET TO ETHICAL PERSON ? THERE IS A LAW OF THE LAND NOT THE LAW OF THE FOREST !!!!! THANKS .

  133. Karthikeyan said

    Thanks Chumber Ji for restarting dialogue with me. I will consider this as your written approval that I had been using morally and ethically and legally straight language respecting the spirit of dialogue. But also remember that whatever I had said are true to the best of my knowledge. I never lied. I never read books written by hatred promoters. You know there are numerous books against the religion you cherish too. I don’t read them either. Because they were not written with good intention. It is against Indian constitutional policy of secularism, fraternity and tolerance.

    Krishna had promised Duryodhana that he would not participate in actual fight. He only acted as charioteer and advisor to Arjuna. He never had any obligation to fight nor needed to leave battle field. I’d be happy if you could precisely tell about this. Also about desertion of Rumini devi please.
    Krishna protected entire gokula’s people and even animals from Indra’s rain by shielding them under Govardhana Giri as umbrella. Why would a person who protects whole lot of people would desert his own wife? Why should I discard such a protector?

    And what is the meaning of discarding Lord Karthikeya? Which Hindu discarded Karthikeya? There is an entire Purana (out of 18) dedicated to Karthikeya called Skandha Purana. Every krittika star and shashti thithi are dedicated to Karthikeya. There is even one Skandha Gayathri Manthra. So I don’t think any discarding of Karthikeya happened.

    Why do you call Ganesha unnatural? What is nature after all? Isn’t it a heavenly process? Ganesha was created, not born. Is this why you call him unnatural? It is too immature to apply laws of science in mythology. Mythology is a subject for believers, not for critics. What is wrong in worshipping the remover of obstacles.

    Please reply without using obscene languages.

  134. A Brahmin said

    As already said by H, CHUMBER, you get lost man. We don’t have to talk to a fucking idiot like you. Just get away.

  135. srotbrahmin said

    yeah i am sure our brahmin women will fall head over heels for filthy,ugly darkies with no money to be emancipated,go to a matrimnial site and just try to propose to a brahmin.
    Is it our fault too that most of u are ugly??

  136. srotbrahmin said

    FYI a brahmin woman is 200 times more sensitive about pedigree and family backgrounds than a brahmin male.A few oddities don’t really matter.

  137. C .L . CHUMBER said

    THIS IS THE VAIDIK E-DIALOGUE OF VAIDIK PEOPLE !!!!!

    SanJam said,
    September 21, 2008 @ 8:02 am

    I HEREBY PROCLAIM AND DECLARE MR CL CHUMBER TO BE THE ENEMY OF THE STATE, ENEMY OF HUMANITY, THREAT TO NATIONALISM.
    MR CHUMBER WAS BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN HATEISTAN.
    HE REPRESENTS THE SATAN!
    CHUMBER = SATAN
    HIS ONLY MISSION IS TO SPREAD HATRED!
    CHUMBER’S FATHER WAS A RAPIST, RACIST, FASCIST, ARSEHOLE!@
    and mr chumber, reply with your correct contact address and telephone number.
    i wish to drag you to punjab and haryana high court.
    i have already submitted the print-outs of many of your outbursts on this blog, and consulted senior lawyers in chandigarh. most of them agree that we can file a case against you under violation of numerous provisions of the constitution.
    they have prepared a draft of the legal notice and it must be sent to you through registered post. if you fail to comply, i guess then we can gather your wherebouts from some of the other websites associated with ambedkar.
    one thing for sure, you will pay for lack of control of your insane arguments.

  138. Chris Miller said

    well…….whr do i begin from……..unlike yesterday, i think Brahmins are the dalits of today which is also a minority by the actual standards……
    people who are trying to defend Brahmins here may be somewhr in the states, uk, australia or somewhr and don’t actually give a rat’s ass of what is happnin to their community or for that instance to the country…….so guys seriously u should be arguin on the caucasian issue………..

    well as for harijans you don’t have enough brains to be accomodated so that’s allright…….but you should be really proud urselfs….infact i too am proud of intellect leaders like mayavati or ramdas athavle for that instance……..right from their dressing sense to their superintellect speeches………..infact i place them right next to dr. babasaheb ambedkar……… do u keep their pictures among your GODS too ???……you should give that a thought guys………….

    well the women issue then……….Brahmin women are beautiful and elegant as both their parents are Brahmins………if the harijans try and infiltrate…… which is highly impossible……………they won’t be as beautiful ……now i don’t want to sound rude n all but yeah you guys stink which is a turnoff…….

    btw…….. Mr. chumber stop posting data from different sites as a refrence and get some orignality in your views……..no wonder they call u a moron…….

    P.S. Mr. chumber most of the brahmin guys are into IT and stuff, hence be careful, as they might hunt you down and kick your ass for being a wanker !!!

  139. C .L . CHUMBER said

    EVERYONE HAS ALREADY BURNT MANUSMIRITI EXCEPT C.L.CHUMBER ! ! ! ! !
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Happyhindu-hh @ Lavnya @ many more said ( September 19, 2008 @ 3:24 am ) , ” Your stupidity is the only thing that shows again and again. Everyone has already burnt manusmrithi, except you.”
    He said in response to my views ( C .L . CHUMBER said,September 18, 2008 @ 11:15 am ) under title ” AMBEDKAR @ AMBAWDEKAR WAS A SAINT NOT MANU WAS A SAINT !!!!! ” as below
    ” MY ANSWER IS : – The resrvation policy is not anti-people policy .The anti-reservationists are anti-constitutional as well as anti-India .They must debared from Indian citizenship because they are indulged in the hands of foreign elements to destablise India .The Brahmans must obey the Indian constitution and burn the Manu-simrity in theirs own minds !!!!! ”
    MY( C.L.Chumber ) LATEST ANSWER IN RESPONSE TO MR HAPPY HINDU`s latest view IS : The viewers already know my clear stand on every issue .Now Mr.Happy Hindu has shown his flickering mind by saying Manu as saint as well as burning his Manu-simirity also except me .!!!!! Once he said that everyone is against the rapism , racism and fascism except Chumber .Then why are they abusing me ? If they are against rapism , racism and fascism then why not they join me when i am fighting against the rapists , racists and fascists ? When he claim that everyone had burnt Manu-simiraty then why he declared Manu as saint and dr. Ambedkar as dumb-edkar ?
    IT IS TRUE THAT I NEVER BURNT THE MANU SIMIRITY BUT I VISITED WITH MY FAMILY THAT ” KRANTI BHUMI ” AT MAHAD ( MAHARASHTRA ) IN AUGUST 2007 A.D. I PROMISE WITH ALL THAT I AM TRYING MY BEST TO BURN THE MANU-SIMRITY AND OTHER SIMRITIES WITH MANU`S EFFIGY ALL OVER INDIA ON 27TH DECEMBER 2008 ( DR. AMBEDKAR BURNT MANU SIMRITY ON 27TH DEC. , 1929 AT MAHAD ) AND ON JUNE 11-12 , 2009 ONWARDS ( GADHRITE BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA BURNT MANU-SIMIRTY ON 11-12 JUNE , 1926 IN THE ADI-DHARAM MANDAL`S FOUNDATION FUNCTION AT HIS ANCESTRAL VILLAGE MUGGOWAL DISTRICT HOSHIARPUR ( PUNJAB ) .THANKS

  140. C .L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE REPLY WITHOUT USING OBSCENE LANGUAGE !!!!!
    MR. KARTHKEYAN JI ! I NEVER USED ABUSIVE LANGUAGE . YES , I WROTE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS . THAT IS TRUE .YOU PEOPLE NEVER CONDEMNED THE SANJAM , HAPPY HINDU , ISSAC JEWS AND A NEW COMERS . WHY ? ARE THEY USING AND YOU AS A VIEWER READ THIS OBSCENE LANGUAGE ?
    ONE THING IS CLEAR THAT I ENTERED ON 14TH APRIL , 2008 IN DALITNATION DIALOGUE . I READ THE ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATORS AND SOME WRITERS THEN I DECIDED TO GIVE A BEFITTING REPLY. THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE WELL. WE WILL EXPOSE THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS UNTIL YOU ARE NOT CONVINCE OR COMPELLED TO DISCARD THESE EVILS !!!!
    I WILL GIVE REPLY .BUT I AM WAITING YOUR GOODSELF`S VIEWS ON THE VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE !!!!!

  141. happihindu said

    IT IS TRUE THAT I NEVER BURNT THE MANU SIMIRITY BUT I VISITED WITH MY FAMILY THAT ” KRANTI BHUMI ” AT MAHAD ( MAHARASHTRA ) IN AUGUST 2007 A.D. I PROMISE WITH ALL THAT I AM TRYING MY BEST TO BURN THE MANU-SIMRITY AND OTHER SIMRITIES WITH MANU`S EFFIGY ALL OVER INDIA ON 27TH DECEMBER 2008 ( DR. AMBEDKAR BURNT MANU SIMRITY ON 27TH DEC. , 1929 AT MAHAD ) AND ON JUNE 11-12 , 2009 ONWARDS ( GADHRITE BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA BURNT MANU-SIMIRTY ON 11-12 JUNE , 1926 IN THE ADI-DHARAM MANDAL`S FOUNDATION FUNCTION AT HIS ANCESTRAL VILLAGE MUGGOWAL DISTRICT HOSHIARPUR ( PUNJAB ) .THANKS.
    —————————–

    Go ahead and burn any or all smrithi. Who cares whether you do or you don’t.

    Yes i feel Manu was a better human being than you politicians. You politicians are not human beings at all in the first place. You are all blood sucking monsters. You divide and further divide and suck blood all the way.

  142. happihindu said

    YOU PEOPLE NEVER CONDEMNED THE SANJAM , HAPPY HINDU , ISSAC JEWS AND A NEW COMERS . WHY ? ARE THEY USING AND YOU AS A VIEWER READ THIS OBSCENE LANGUAGE ?
    ————–

    You Live your Whole Life in Condemning everything, Chumber….i am beginning to laugh at this whole thing again….i mean you are sooo silly and someone like you is a politician, then what must be the posisiotn of those who follow you?

  143. Sanjam said

    chumber,, why dont you start crying now? thats the only thing left for you to do.
    at onset, you start abusing our gods and our religion and some communities,,
    and if we try to reason it out with you, you double your efforts to spew bullshit…
    even then,, most of the people who commented here, practiced patience,,, but it would deter you.
    then eventually, if i started calling you,, your father,, kanshi ram,, ambedkar as rapist, racist, fascist et al,,, then you start pissing in your pants,,, and shitting in your nappies…
    puch puch puch… tsk tsk tsk…. go chumber baby go,,, run to wipe your dirty arse!
    lol,,,lmho,,, lmgo!

  144. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji,
    Give evil nothing to resist, they’ll fade themselves. I’m not here to waste my life finding fault with people and their words. But Chumber Ji, from the beginning I regarded you as a socially responsible elder. Naturally I expect your words to be more mature. Not those of others.
    How was theirs Vaidik language? Its clear that you had always associating ugly things with Hinduism and Sanaathana dharma. Please refrain from it.
    From any book or teaching, learn good things and leave the bad things. Just as you took the right moral from Daksha’s story.

  145. C .L . CHUMBER said

    Mr. Karthikeyan learn good things and leave the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods . I am sorry that you and your like minded followers of rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods .What can we expect from these evil Gods`follwers . I think your are religious unethical terrorist .
    BEWARE OF UNRELIGIOUS AND UNETHICAL TERRORITS !!!!!

  146. Karthikeyan said

    Mr. Chumber Learn good things and remember those who inspired them in you. I am sorry that you and your like minded people are showing hatred to the Gods who inspired valour, righteousness, truthfulness, mercifulness and other good qualities. I think you are immature unethical terrorist.
    BEWARE OF IMMATURE AND UNETHICAL TERRORISTS !!!!!

  147. cooldude said

    Ambedkar is a fag
    He wanted rights for dalits but he married a brahmin to get a trophy wife
    Brahmin girls are beautiful and he wanted a taste of it

  148. c.l.chumber said

    MANUWADI MINDED ABUSERS MUST BE DISCARDED BY THE DALIT-NATION AS WELL AS BY THE http://DALITNATION.WORDPRESS.COM .

  149. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPYHEM HINDU ! IF YOUR SISTER IS DIVORCED BY HER HUSBAND , THEN YOU WILL FEEL THE SORROWS OF MATA SITA AND MATA RUKAMANI !!!!! MATA SITA PREFERED TO SUICIDE THAN TO ACCOMPANY CRUEL KING RAM !!!!!

    happyshemhindu said,
    September 26, 2008 @ 9:20 am
    Again you profess Mata Sita but without her Ram. Poor mata Sita. How much She must have yearned for Her husband in the forest. But now, even in memories you will seperate them.

    Even Rukmani will also feel so bad if you seperate Her from her Krishna. You are creating Divine Divorces and new history.

  150. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN IS MATURED AND MANUWADI ETHICAL TERRORIST !!!!!

  151. hindushemhappy said

    MR.HAPPYHEM HINDU ! IF YOUR SISTER IS DIVORCED BY HER HUSBAND , THEN YOU WILL FEEL THE SORROWS OF MATA SITA AND MATA RUKAMANI !!!!! MATA SITA PREFERED TO SUICIDE THAN TO ACCOMPANY CRUEL KING RAM !!!!!
    ——————–

    Grow up Chumber. Who cares abt divorces.

    A few divorces do not change the GDP of the country.

    And staying stuck with your dumbedkar version of history means you might end up in an asylum really.

  152. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPY HINDUS ! A SINGLE DIVORSE CAN CHANGE THE GDP OF THAT FAMILY !!!!!

    • Lalita arora said

      Change d GDP of whole famlie…haha…..true said sir(c.l.chumber )
      let d dogs bark…..!

  153. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji, Nobody here is either afraid of me or angry with me. Then how can I be called a terrorist?

    On 26h Sep you said I’m an unethical terrorist.
    Today, i.e. on 29th you are telling I’m an ethical terrorist.

    How can somebody be both ethical and unethical at same time?

    [(A —> (B ^ B’)) —> A’ ] — Aristotle’s law.

  154. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MANUWADI-ETHICAL MEANS WORST THAN UNETHICAL !!!!!

  155. hinduhappyshem said

    MR.HAPPY HINDUS ! A SINGLE DIVORSE CAN CHANGE THE GDP OF THAT FAMILY !!!!!
    —————

    To change the GDP of the whole country, then the whole country needs to be divorced…..Grow up Chumber.

  156. hindushemhappy said

    MANUWADI-ETHICAL MEANS WORST THAN UNETHICAL !!!!!
    ————

    Poor Karthikeyan – such a sweet chap and you go brand him of all people.

    Chumber,

    Since you love to go around branding people – can you please tell us, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOURSELF?

    Sure you can repeat ‘i am saint in plain clothes’, i am this and that…and so on a zillion times…i am in need of a few laughs.

    plus, i also just wanna see your state of mind when you answer this question.

    thanks.

  157. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji,
    Now every reader knows what Chumberwadi rationality means, what Chumberwadi eqality means and what Chumberwadi parliamentary words mean.

    Happy Hindu, so kind of you.

  158. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MANUWADIS CLAIM THAT THEY ARE AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM BUT STILL MANUWADIS WORSHIP RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND ABUSE ME WHO IS ALSO DEADLY AGAINST THESE EVILS AND EVIL GODS .IS THIS MANUWADI ETHIC NOT WORST THAN UNETHICS ?
    HAD MR. KARTHIKEYAN CONDEMNED THE VAIDIK ABUSERS ? HE ENJOYED VERY WELL ! HE EVEN OBJECTED ON MY HEADLINE ” VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE ” BUT HE DID NOT CONDEMNED THE ABUSERS ! THAT IS WHY I CALLED HIM MANUWADI-ETHICAL !.

  159. Karthikeyan said

    Hello readers,
    I’ve made it clear that it is not my headache to keep on condemning and finding fault with people. I also reasoned that “give no resistance to evil, it will go away by itself”. I had always written my impartial views. I never lied.

    huh.. I’m a mere mortal. I get tired often. I cannot be in full warmed up state always. I admire Chumber Ji’s steadfast stand in his views, however pointless they may be. Now please readers, don’t label me Chumberwadi because I admired and glorified Chumber Ji. I’m not any “wadi” or “ist”. I’m a socially responsible citizen.

  160. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHKEYAN ! INVENTED THE ” CHUMBERWAD ” !!!!!

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! I AM A LOVER OF RATIONALITY , EQUALITY AND PARLIAMENTARY WORDS !!!!!
    YOU NEVER CONDEMNED THE IRRATIONALITY , UNEQUALITY WHICH BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS INVENTED , PERSERVED AND GLORIFIED INDO-ARYANS` CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM . YOU EVEN ENJOYED THE VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE OF THE VAIDIK PEOPLE LIKE M/S HAPPY HINDU , SANJAM AND MANY MORE ! THIS CONFIRMS THE FILTHY BENT OF MIND OF THE VAIDIK PEOPLE !!!!!
    YOU ALL VAIDIK PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE RAPISM,RACISM AND FASCISM EXCEPT ME BUT AT THE SAME TIME ABUSE ME MERCILESSILY BECAUSE I EXPOSE THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS MERCILEESILY !!!!! THIS WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL ITS DESTINATION . THE TIME WILL TELL WHO IS TRUE WARRIOR AND WHO IS THE RAN-CHHOD IN THIS ETHICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!! SATYA MEV JAYATEY !!!!!

  161. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ARE ALL BRAHMANS EX-DACOITS ? ? ? ? ?

    h said,

    June 4, 2008 @ 9:42 am

    Valmiki was a Kirata and from the Bhil hunting tribe and a dacoit BEFORE he became a brahmin.

  162. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. COOLDUDE PROOVED TO BE A DUD !!!!!

    cooldude said,

    September 26, 2008 @ 8:44 pm

    Ambedkar is a fag
    He wanted rights for dalits but he married a brahmin to get a trophy wife
    Brahmin girls are beautiful and he wanted a taste of it

  163. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU HAS DISCARDED HIS RAPIST GODS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu @ happyhindushem @ lavnya @ shem said ( September 30, 2008 @ 2:39 am ),”My Gods did not rape. Why should I discard them .”
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/beware-of-meditation/#comment-1769
    My ANSWER IS ;- Mr. Happy Hindu was a staunch follower of Vishanu who raped Adi-mata Varinda w/o Adi-mahabhagwan Jalandhar as recoeded in the Padam Purana , the district Jalandhar`s gazeteer published by the Punjab government and the Hindi movie the ” Tulasi Vivah .”
    Now Mr.Happy Hindu was fed up of rapist Vishanu .He discarded him by writing that he had no rapist God ! i already said that vaidik people have to discard either the evil Gods or their scriptures . He pefered scriptures to the evil Gods . He already took stand against rapism , racism and fascism . He also took stand that every body had burnt the Manu-simrity !
    I congrtulate Mr. Happy Hindu for this development in the history of India . I wish him success in the war against the rapism , racism and fascism !!!!!

  164. hindushemhappy said

    ARE ALL BRAHMANS EX-DACOITS ? ? ? ? ?

    h said,

    June 4, 2008 @ 9:42 am

    Valmiki was a Kirata and from the Bhil hunting tribe and a dacoit BEFORE he became a brahmin.
    —————–

    Chumber,

    You are an IDIOT. (Why Have you NOT filed a case in court yet. I am waiting).

    How Can brahmins be ex-dacoits? To IDIOTS like you, nobody can explain what is a brahmin.

    You deserve to be locked up in a mental asylum.

    YOU are a dacoit of all spiritual sentiments.

    A LIAR LIKE YOU CAN NEVER BE SPIRITUAL.
    NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN ANYTHING SPIRITUAL ABOUT ANY RELIGION TO YOU. BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND.
    YOUR BRAIN WIRING IS DESIGNED TO BE A LIAR AND A MANIPULATOR.

    DO NOT INSULT VALMIKI BY TAKING HIS NAME ON YOUR LIAR LIPS.

  165. hinduhappyshem said

    HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU HAS DISCARDED HIS RAPIST GODS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu @ happyhindushem @ lavnya @ shem said ( September 30, 2008 @ 2:39 am ),”My Gods did not rape. Why should I discard them .”
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/beware-of-meditation/#comment-1769
    My ANSWER IS ;- Mr. Happy Hindu was a staunch follower of Vishanu who raped Adi-mata Varinda w/o Adi-mahabhagwan Jalandhar as recoeded in the Padam Purana , the district Jalandhar`s gazeteer published by the Punjab government and the Hindi movie the ” Tulasi Vivah .”
    Now Mr.Happy Hindu was fed up of rapist Vishanu .He discarded him by writing that he had no rapist God ! i already said that vaidik people have to discard either the evil Gods or their scriptures . He pefered scriptures to the evil Gods . He already took stand against rapism , racism and fascism . He also took stand that every body had burnt the Manu-simrity !
    I congrtulate Mr. Happy Hindu for this development in the history of India . I wish him success in the war against the rapism , racism and fascism !!!!!
    ——————————

    Chumber,

    I worship Vishnu. You ahev lied thru your teeth above.

    YOU ARE A RAPIST OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS.

    YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

    YOU ARE A MALICIOUS SUB-HUMAN.

    YOU ARE A DASTARDLY MANIPULATOR.

    YOU ARE A MENTAL RETARD.

    GO FILE A CASE MR.DUNMBDKAR.

  166. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ ” THE VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE ” OF THE VAIDIK PEOPLE !!!!!
    ( Only in September 1 – 15 ,2008 on https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-1816 ) .

    h said,
    September 1, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

    I feel it is better to be a stooge of a family member that i might alternately argue with and be friends with, rather than to SALIVATE at the ones handing
    out foreign money. I have reasons for my stand in defending the ones that take care of the hindu faith, and i will stand by it. I can assure you that you
    are being MOST GIGHLY STUPID by calling ‘brahmins’ as anti-india

    h said,
    September 4, 2008 @ 7:25 am

    Mr.IDIOT,
    Do you even know what is in the constitution?
    You BARK like a RABID DOG like a HALF-BAKED-FOOL with half-knowledge?
    Sure you need a DOG TAMER..

    Posting again said,
    September 4, 2008 @ 4:29 pm

    Mr.IDIOT,
    You will receive practical lessons on what are constitutional rights.
    Do not BARK like a RABID DOG in the meantime.
    You really need a DOG TAMER, you misleader SCUMBAG
    ( THE SAME MERITORIOUS ABUSES AS OF HAPPY HINDU @ H SEPT.4@7.25A.M. ! ).

    A Brahmin said,
    September 5, 2008 @ 3:59 am

    You all FUCKING DALITS,
    You wil never be able to conquer the brahmins at any cost. You will be dalits foreever. You DONT HAVE BRAINS and that is the reason you people always ask for reservations. And though we the brahmins provide you all the reservations the only thing you can do is the FUCKING CORRUPTION. After independence, you were the one who were majorly part of all the government departments. That is the reason why indian politics is corrupted and india is still lagging behind. But wait with the imerge of IT, all the talented people that is brahmins are on the top because this require BRAINS – WHICH YOU BLOODY FUCKING PEOPLE DONT HAVE. As you all said you dont want brahmin. A day will come when all the brahmins will be seen settled outside india in US, UK, and elsewhere in developed countries. And Hindustan will be called as Dalitstan. And then you will realize the need of brahmin brains where you will never have it. BRAHMINS ARE THE GREATEST.

    A Brahmin said,
    September 11, 2008 @ 5:00 am

    . Babasaheb ambedkar has made it for only 30 yrs so that these FUCKING IDIOTS will at least come to some level to compete brahmins. After that also they are demanding it to extend. I know the reasons the only thing is dalits have NO BRAINS and they are SCARED that if there is no reservations, the old days will be back. As all brahmins are talented, they will capture all the positions that these FUCKING IDIOT people have now with the help of reservations and quota.

    A Brahmin said,
    September 11, 2008 @ 6:00 am

    Mr. CHUMBER,
    Who the FUCK are you by the way???

    happy-h said,
    September 11, 2008 @ 6:44 am

    who knows this whole reservations things could be one up in the sleeve of these anti-indians……crash down the whole country based on reservations, weaken the military, and then gate-crash into the country….atleast if people like chumber had his way, that’s what the country wud come to……

    happyhindu-hh said,
    September 19, 2008 @ 3:24 am

    Your STUPIDITY is the only thing that shows again and again.
    You are an IDIOT because of your non-sane memory.
    3) Nobody needs to call a dead man any names. But those who suggest worshipping Ambedkar are DUMBEDKARS ofcourse.
    ——————–
    FOOLISH people understand what is sedition only after they are charged with
    it

    A Brahmin said,
    September 22, 2008 @ 6:30 am

    As already said by H, CHUMBER, you get lost man. We don’t have to talk to a fucking idiot like you. Just get away..

    Srotbrahmin said,
    September 22, 2008 @ 6:05 pm

    yeah i am sure our brahmin women will fall head over heels for filthy,ugly darkies with no money to be emancipated,go to a matrimnial site and just try to propose to a brahmin.
    Is it our fault too that most of u are ugly??

    Srotbrahmin said,
    September 22, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

    FYI a brahmin woman is 200 times more sensitive about pedigree and family backgrounds than a brahmin male.A few oddities don’t really matter.

    Happihindu said,
    September 25, 2008 @ 6:35 am

    You are all BLOOD SUCKINGMONSTERS .

    Happihindu said,
    September 25, 2008 @ 8:11 am

    Chumber….i am beginning to laugh at this whole thing again….i mean you are sooo silly

    Sanjam said,
    September 25, 2008 @ 9:38 am

    chumber,,
    then eventually, if i started calling you,, your father,, kanshi ram,, ambedkar as rapist, racist, fascist et al,,, then you start pissing in your pants,,, and shitting in your nappies…
    puch puch puch… tsk tsk tsk…. go chumber baby go,,, run to wipe your dirty arse!
    lol,,,lmho,,, lmgo!

    Karthikeyan said,
    September 25, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

    Chumber Ji,
    How was theirs Vaidik language?

    Cooldude said,
    September 26, 2008 @ 8:44 pm

    Ambedkar is a FAG
    He wanted rights for dalits but he married a brahmin to get a trophy wife
    Brahmin girls are beautiful and he wanted a taste of it

  167. hindushemhappy said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! I AM A LOVER OF RATIONALITY , EQUALITY AND PARLIAMENTARY WORDS !!!!!YOU ALL VAIDIK PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE RAPISM,RACISM AND FASCISM EXCEPT ME BUT AT THE SAME TIME ABUSE ME MERCILESSILY BECAUSE I EXPOSE THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS MERCILEESILY !!!!! THIS WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL ITS DESTINATION . THE TIME WILL TELL WHO IS TRUE WARRIOR AND WHO IS THE RAN-CHHOD IN THIS ETHICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!! SATYA MEV JAYATEY !!!!!
    ———————-

    CHUMBER, The problem is you are a Mad Man and an IDIOT.

    An idiot like you Cannot Have a Brain.

    An Idiot without a brain cannot understand What is a brahmin.

    An brainless idiot who cannot understand brahminism is a socially vile narcisst LIAR who loves rape, racism and fascism -as is evident from your obesssion with such words.

    Such a socially irreposonsible idiotic narcissist LIAR is to be rejected by the society.

    A civilized society does not need evil scum like you who does not want to remove poverty.

    If Valmiki were alive today, he would not have written Ramayan. He would have removed evil people like Chumber and become worshipped like Rama or Krishna.

  168. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji,
    Yes, I had to coin such a word, because there is no word in any languages dictionary to describe you. Man you are truly unique. And I didn’t condemn anyone because its not my headache. I’ve told this over and over again. Even one more time if you accuse me for not condemning, then it means you are reading selectively and you are again provoking others to abuse you. This is completely against the ethics of your rational e-dialogue. You cannot provoke somebody and then accuse them of their deeds. They might have executed an action, but you are its root cause. Hope you understand and let the artificial words like “Chumberwad”, “Manuwad” and “Dalit” etc are eradicated from history.

    I have one appreciation to you Chumber Ji. This is honest one. I noticed that you’ve used sentence case in your previous comment. This is great improvement. I hope you’ll continue doing so. My heartfelt appreciations.

    Dear viewers,
    You had been abusing Chumber Ji badly, no matter he deserved or not. Now he has improved his style. Request you all to post your appreciations if any for him.

    I know viewers, I’m putting myself in the risk that Chumber Ji might comment in multiple posts with this title:
    HURRAH ! MR. KARTHIKEYAN HAS CONDEMNED THE VAIDIK ABUSERS !!!!
    and linking to this reply. Hope you will not be carried away by this usual Chumberwadi tactic.

  169. A Brahmin said

    The greatness of hindu gods and godesses is byond your brain you idiot. Go on blabbering all over till the time no one listens to you.

  170. Praveen said

    Not only brahmins, all other forward caste people think that intercaste marriages bring bad reputation to their castes. There is nothing wrong if dalits marry forward caste women. Intercaste marriages break the traditional idealism that is being continued in the name of honor and reputation.

  171. Paul Krist said

    ” ….. Babasaheb by Marrying the doctor brahmin Mai Ambedkar has shown us that even women in Brahmin community is oppressed and the only way they can be saved is to get them out of their jati. Brahmin women are also Dalits in a way. Brahmin women are the biggest victim of Brahmin conspiracy. Manu treats women like filth, even brahmin woman.” ==> What about Muslim women? According to many interpretations of Quran, as well as practices in vogue, Muslim women are treated like animals by the males. Would you ‘Dalit’ guys marry Muslim women, just to implement what you think is Babasaheb’s “message” of need for “liberating” all “oppressed” women, if necessary by conversion to Islam ?

  172. Paul Krist said

    While trying to liberate oppressed Brahmin, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, … women through marriage with them, do not be selective to marry only fair skinned and good-looking women. If you do so, your noble aim of ‘liberating’ ‘oppressed’ women will not be seen what you meant it to be, and wil be construed only as an act borne out of carnal desires heightened by looking at fair skinned women with well-developed sexual parts.

  173. krishindshuem said

    Dear viewers,
    You had been abusing Chumber Ji badly, no matter he deserved or not. Now he has improved his style. Request you all to post your appreciations if any for him.
    ——————-

    Kartikeyan,

    Forgive me. I am not able to post appreciation for Chumber.

    If he had said he is working for betterment of all, to remove poverty, build better roads infrastructure, create a better country – then yes, we wud have appreciated him much.

    But he himself has made it clear that proving gods as rapist is his top priority. He does not care about other things. He cannot care because he DOES NOT have the ability to work for it.

    Making politics and weaving conspiracy stories about hindu gods is the only capability he has. And with that dumbedkar capability he claims to be a Statesman!

    Do we need politicians like him?

    If Valmiki or Ambedkar had removed people like Chumber from mainstream society and locked him up in a mental asylum, then i wud have worshipped both Valmiki and Ambedkars as gods. And such loonies like Chumber actually are leaders with followers?

    What sort of a man is Chumber? He calls freedom fighters as communal people, Praises the british colonialists, Misquotes the Gita and Manusmrithi, Calls his Muslim friend as Zindabad, Defends a given point in Islam (Muhammad-Ayesha), Lies repetedly, is stuck with a few points in his limited brain, will keep calling himself as aboriginal indian even though he knows himself he is not a aboriginal indian…

    If one were to check on the hypocritical double-standard statements Chumber has given (like – i am not against hindusim but society must discard rapist racist fascist gods), then he clearly comes across as a Mad Man. Only a Mad Man can make such statements.

    He claims to be a Adi-Dharmi but I do not buy it. There are no Adi-dharmis who insult hindusim like Chumber.

    Sorry, i have nothing nice to say about him. Similarly, Chumber will have nothing nice to say about my depraved behavior here either. No point in asking either of us.

    To deal with a politician like him, one need to get a politically active unit like RSS involved in handling him. Mere petitioning by us common folk is not enuf.

  174. PRAVEEN : “Not only brahmins, all other forward caste people think that intercaste marriages bring bad reputation to their castes. There is nothing wrong if dalits marry forward caste women. Intercaste marriages break the traditional idealism that is being continued in the name of honor and reputation.”
    :::
    Adult individuals of opposite sexes have a fundamental right to choose a life partner according to their perceptions and preferences which may be dictated by criteria based on economic as well as physical considerations. Under law, which is essentially the same universally, though with some local changes as regards age, cultural traditions, religion professed, etc. People cannot be illegally forced with choices nor fraudulently made to accept a choice in a manner infringing these rights. Law, howeger, is manmade. Natural selection which is a scientific theory as per Darwin’s Theory of Evolution and Survival of the fittest, which is a principle essentially of economics, operate inexorably. Caste, religion, classification under educational, economic, or other factors, operate within each adult’s mind. There is a rebellious element in each individual, by which he/she may try to break these barriers which condition his/her final choices despite preferences. Wisdom demands that unless one is totally convinced and confident of one’s strength (or fitness) to cope with the consequences of one’s choice, one must always respect the limitations placed by the divisions. Or else one may be inviting a whole life of unhappiness and misery. One must consult one’s own self or innermost self and make the choice so as to decide whether the path one chooses is going to keep him/her in all future. Without oneself being blissful inward, one cannot attempt at becoming a model for society or a section of it. Social reformers’ wisdom may (or if politically inspired, will not) be valid only on a group basis. As I have said elsewhere on this website, broad patterns of grouping of people have resulted according to the inborn characteristics (manual, muscular, intellectual, spiritual inclination) which are not entirely genetic nor hereditary. Thus, for instance, a rare, outstanding gem is borne in an intellectually inferior group, but the members of the group cannot follow that individual as their model.

  175. Paul Krist said

    Mr/Ms HINDUSHEMHAPPY :”MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! I AM A LOVER OF RATIONALITY , EQUALITY AND PARLIAMENTARY WORDS !!!!!YOU ALL VAIDIK PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE RAPISM,RACISM AND FASCISM EXCEPT ME BUT AT THE SAME TIME ABUSE ME MERCILESSILY. BECAUSE I EXPOSE THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS MERCILEESILY !!!!! THIS WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL …” ==>> I sampled at random what you as well as your ‘supporters’ and ‘adversaries’ have written on these pages. What is said is a means to an end, an objective. The objective of whatever one say, according to a beautiful Vedic wisdom, is THE GOOD OF INDIVIDUAL WITHIN THAT OF THE SOCIETY BEING SERVED, and not even the empirical truth or untruth of it. WIth this guidance, which no man in his senses can dispute or doubt, just because it is said in the Vedas^, I wish to say this to you as below [ ^ the same things may be said in the Bible, Quran, … , as well ! I have not read any of these, except gists of them, whereas friends like Chumber have given reproductions of bare translations of Manu smriti in tampered forms , or forms that change with time, ]

    Racism, ‘rapism’, and other -isms that you have enumerated for a sample, are the bane of all ages and of all places under the sun. It has been so, it will remain so, since humans are human, as also – please NOTE : EVEN THE GODS OR THEIR MESSENGERS, MESSIAHS, PROPHETS, AVATARAS, … TOO, BEING JUST IMAGES OF GOD OR HIS EMISSARIES, CONCEIVED IN MAN’S IMAGE OF GOD ARE HUMAN. [To the faithfull of each of the religions, these entities are, however, endowed with diviniity and it will be blasphemy to speak of them as ‘just’ human images. In reference to Hinduism, you tell so many tales/ episodes from texts, often with a colouring of yours, so as to emphatically make it out that they prove Hinduism’s God/ gods are evil entities, devils, with vile and vicious purposes, etc. My dear HINDUSHEMHAPPY, I do NOT intend to consider or counter you on, each and every such tale with colour added. To do so is not worth the while, even though I have read a lot, lot about such tales of all regions and religions ; many opposing religious exponents have painted their respective religions as THE TRUE ones, and the others THE FALSE ones, and the respective SAINTS/ PROPHETS/ MESSIAHS as THE TRUE ONES and those of the other religions as FAKES. Such True-Fake claims are themselves made by the SAINTS/AVATARAS/ … of the religions themselves.

    The one and the only moral for a sane person, at this age and time, is to take a broad view of ALL religions, go their essentials, and use them, and BE RELIGIOUS, MEANING, FOLLOW THE ETHICAL, MORAL, AND SPIRITUAL CODES, DOVETAILING INDIVIDUAL GOOD TO COLLECTIVE WELFARE. And there SHALL BE NO HARM DONE AS A RESULT OF FOLLOWING THESE ESENTIALS, EVEN IF REJECTING THE FORMS AND INSTITUTIONS INTENDED TO CONVEY THOSE ESSENTIALS , IF YOU CAN CHOOSE. And not to denigrate the native religion/s due to indoctrination by aliens. Please read some sample of the teachings of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Swami Vivekananda. They have themselves put Hinduism in a comparative perspective [not on a verse for verse basis, though], and found that ALL RELIGIONS LEAD TO THE SAME GOAL, when they are shorn of the tales and episodes which are more often misunderstood by the followers as well as their preachers.

    Going by a sample of what you [and your likes] have written on these web pages, I tend to think that there is this casteism uniquely making Hinduism a devil’s idea, and so on, and further, you have given pointed narrations of incidents from current Indian scene to illustrate the horrors of injustice to the group of Dalit castes. Well, to attribute ‘uniqueness’ to Hinduism, is utterly stupid. It is there in all societies professing one or another, or more, of different religions. The is no mention of caste, Varna in the other religions, but well, there are names like sects, denominations, and so on. Even whole lineages exist, though they may not follow what is connoted by the names of lineage: such as Carpenter, Smith, … in Christianity; or Narialwala, Damodiwala, Dalal, … in Parsi religion. And what about those INFIDELS of Christianity – to be burnt, turned over to Hell, etc., does that name correspond to Hindu CHANDALAS ? The inter-sect terrorism in Islam is well known as a huge deadly force even in these modern times. And how about those INFIDELS of Christianity who were tortured, burnt, ….., and what about those whom the JIHAD OF ISLAM targets for neat liquidation ? And you still want to only single out HINDUISM ?
    But yes, we must treat them essentiall as institutions which were held as vital part of religion IN THE PAST, which does not mean, they are eternal truths of any religion. Each religion has its essentials which are NOT what at least the superficial look of its historical institutions and practices illustrate.

    The Dalit cause has been taken up especially since Mahatma Gandhi’s days and also by Dr BALASAHEB AMBEDKAR and possibly a few others in different parts of India. This cause needs to be supported by all of us, but the Dalits themselves will not be helping themselves a wit better by denigrating a whole religion and everything it stands for, and has produced even in the form of champions of various benevolent social causes. WHILE IT IS NOT BAD FOR ANY SECTION OR CLASS TO STAND GUARD AGAINST INJUSTICE BY SOCIETY AT LARGE, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT IT ADOPT POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE WAYS OF ACHIEVING JUSTICE, AND AVOIDING ANY MEANS WHICH GENERATES ANIMOSITY AND HATRED AND EVEN VIOLENCE BETWEEN SECTIONS. Class wars are totally anachronistic, simply because everywhere the planet is overcrowded, and the impact of destruction, violence arising from hatred and animosity will be too grave, to be of any justiication for the acts of the champions of causes.

  176. Karthikeyan said

    HappyHindu Ji,
    Chumber Ji didn’t even maintain sentence case for one day. By the time anyone would even recognise anything good in him, he’s going back to his usual Chumberwadi ways.

  177. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION INSTEAD OF ABUSING ME ? ? ? ? ?
    MR . HAPPY HINDU ! ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI WAS A SAGE OR DACOIT BELONGING TO VALMIKI TRIBE OR BRAHMAN ? ? ? ? ?

    hindushemhappy said,

    October 2, 2008 @ 9:23 am

    MR . HAPPY HINDU ! ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI WAS A SAGE OR DACOIT BELONGING TO VALMIKI TRIBE OR BRAHMAN ? ? ? ? ?

    h said,
    September 5, 2008 @ 2:59 pm

    Chumber, i too am from a Valmiki tribe admiture.- –

    NOBODY REMEBERS VALMIKI AS ANYTHING ELSE BUT A SAGE. Nobody is branding nobody. Yes, he is a Sage. He is divine.

    h said,

    June 4, 2008 @ 9:42 am

    Valmiki was a Kirata and from the Bhil hunting tribe and a dacoit BEFORE he became a brahmin.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  178. Chumber Ji,

    I’m an atheist. If there is one thing i wish, i wish there was no Hinduism, Christianity or Islam. Guess what? Its not happening in your or my lifetime. Even though our country is a secular country, our culture revolves around the Hindu religion all of the time. Our civilization is Hinduism based and so is our morality and attitude.

    Hindu’s will NOT pack their bags and go anywhere in this country. If its someone that needs to pack their bags and go, its hate mongers like you who want to keep BEGGING for reservations in everything. You beg Narayanamurthy, you beg Premji, you would lick the cunt of any man who would give you a free fucking seat in any place despite your lack of talent and capability to earn it yourself.

    The problem in our nation is PRIMARY EDUCATION. None of the public schools run by this government for the past 60 years have been on standards comparable to even the most filthiest primary school. Why do i see no dalit fighting for increasing the quality of primary education in public schools?

    The drop out rate in rural public schools is as high as 73% as per the 2004 statistics run by Gramalaya. In the cities its about 40 – 45%.

    If we can establish quality primary education then all of our children will be on the same level playing field. Dalits, Brahmins, Christians, Muslims, Sikh, Parsi, you name it.

  179. hindushemhappy said

    PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION INSTEAD OF ABUSING ME ? ? ? ? ?
    MR . HAPPY HINDU ! ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI WAS A SAGE OR DACOIT BELONGING TO VALMIKI TRIBE OR BRAHMAN ? ? ? ? ?
    ————

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    I already explained enough about what and who is a brahmin, what are tribes, how tribes admixed, how castes were formed, etc.

    But explaining anything to you is like pouring precious spring mineral water down a drain.

    Politicians like you do not have the right to ask not to be abused. What sort of a man will say “you are abusing me because i am a sc”….you are that type of a dastardly guy (dastard = malicious coward).

    You are cheap enough to brand religions, reciprocate Sanjam’s type of sick language, brand other posters like Kartikeyan as terrorist, and on top of that you narcissist can actually call yourself a statesman…And people like you ask not to be abused?

    Idiots like you can be left alone if you were just another guy on the streets. But unfortunately your job is to tour and tear down the country by inciting communal divide. You need to be locked up in a mental asylum by the law. Mad people like you should not ask questions; because you already know your dumbedkar-politician brain wiring is not designed to understand such things.

  180. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WILL THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU WORSHIPERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND HATE MONGERS INVENTERS , NOURISHERS AND DEFENDERS OF THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM OR THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS SUFFERERS OF THESE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS HAVE TO PACK THEIR BAGS ? ? ? ? ?

    Dilip Muralidaran said,

    October 6, 2008 @ 7:40 am

    Chumber Ji,
    Hindu’s will NOT pack their bags and go anywhere in this country. If its someone that needs to pack their bags and go, its hate mongers like you who want to keep BEGGING for reservations in everything.

    h said,
    September 10, 2008 @ 11:06 am

    We do not want politicians and NON-HINDUS to tell us about our religion.
    You can pack your bags or you can look elsewhere to find something else to bash to make a political career……hindusim will never fit your bill…..just move it man…move it…anyways you are on the way to being petitioned out
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-2108

  181. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ONLY A CULTURED INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU MR./MRS.” A BRAHMIN ” KNOWS THE GREATNESS OF HINDU GODS BY CALLING OTHERS IDIOT !!!!
    A Brahmin said,
    October 3, 2008 @ 3:50 am

    The greatness of hindu gods and godesses is byond your brain you idiot. Go on blabbering all over till the time no one listens to you.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-2266

  182. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WAS LAKSHAMAN MARRIED OR UNMARRIED ? ? ? ? ?
    Dea Viewers ,
    Mr M. R. Yardi in his book ,” The Ramayna : Its Origin and growth ” wrote ,”
    But before we proceed to discuss the character of Rama , it is proposed to deal with certain episodes which seem shocking to the modern mind . These are , in their chronoligical order , the killing of Tarhaka , the mutilation of Surapnakha , killing of Vali , ordeal of fire by Sita , her later repudiation by Rama and the killing of Shambuka . ” ( pages 129-130 ).
    He continued ,” Rama tells her ( Surapnakha ) that as he has already a wife , she should court his younger brother who is unmarried , akarhtadara . Commentator Naagojibhatta defends this untruth by saying that a fib told in jest does not attract blame . All that one can say is that this jok was carried too far , as it ended in the mutilation of a woman whose only fault was that she had become enamoured of the two youths .” ( page 130 ).
    MY VIEWS ARE :- THE INDO-ARYAN HINDU GOD RAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SO CALLED ABDUCTION OF SITA BY RAVNA .WHY DID HE TOLD A LIE THAT LAKASHMAN WAS A BACHELOR WHEN LAKASHMAN WAS MARRIED TO SITA`S SISTER ALONG WITH RAMA !!!!! WHEN LAKSHAMAN WAS MARRIED THEN WHY HINDU GOD RAMA SUGGESTED SURAPNAKHA TO MARRY LAKASHMAN ? WHY DID NOT LAKSHAMAN REFUTE RAMA`S STATEMENT ? WERE THESE ONE LIE AND ONE SUGGESTION OF RAM AND LAKASHMAN`S SILENCE NOT THE THREE FOUNDATION STONES OF RAMA AND RAVAN ENIMITY WHICH RESULTED IN RAVAN AND HIS DYNASTY`S END AS WELL AS THE BANISHMENT OF SITA BY RAMA AND SUICIDEL END OF BOTH RAM AND SITA .ULTIMATELY RAM`S PHYSICAL AND ETHICAL DEMISE .AM I WRONG ?

    • The relevant Sanskrit sloka in Valmiki Ramayan, Aranyakanda, is –

      anujaH tu eSa me bhraataa shiilavaan priya darshanaH |
      shriimaan akR^ita daaraH ca lakSmaNo naama viiryavaan || 3-18-3

      Here ‘akR^ita daaraH ca’ means not made wife [or not brought wife] and that can mean ‘not with wife now’ – he is single now. So Rama was just talking jovially to Surpanakha to ward her off from himself and Sita.

      May be it is historically true or untrue; may be just fiction; but it does not mean that Rama told a lie to Surpanakha. And in that situation even telling a lie is not bad. There are many instances in life when telling a lie is better than telling any unpalatable truth and sometimes it becomes essential to tell a lie to save one’s life etc. And in sexual matters telling lies is quite common.

      The very fact that Valmiki a boya (hunter caste) could eventually become a Brahmin shows that Brahmin-dom was not based on ethnic origin. In those days various castes people by several contrivances could become brahmins or kshatriyas etc. So varna system was different from jati (caste} system. Later on things changed. Gradually jati system took precedence and became ossified and more orthodox.

  183. mesquiteice said

    I agree with dilip muralidharan.

    why should we support beggars in our country.

    We should support hard work.

    Lazy fellows and people who want to get things free as a matter of right can never understand the value and happiness that comes by hardwork and effort. I would allow beggars to beg as much as possible because they will never understand hardwork / happiness unless they give up begging/laziness.

    I only feel bad that our brothers and sisters are not able to understand the feeling of working for achievement. They want to talk bad about others and preach hatered. However whatever happens they are our brothers and sisters. I hope that these lazy fellows understand the importance of hardwork not only for their monetary benefit but also for their intellectual benefit.

    If they choose to continue begging , its upto them and they will waste all their life begging.

    No great person has been a beggar. A beggar can never be great.

    People have to be treated equally or continuous healthy development.

    I have read of a philosophy of alwars who said “a place enough to allow one man to sleep is enough for two people to sit and a place enough to allow two people to sit is enough for three people to stand”

    This message given many centuries back seems to be the panacea for collective growth.

    Whereas it is a pity that the message of “LOVE” time and again preached by the Christ, Buddha are being lost and what keeps emerging again and again is “HATERED” being preached by persons like Dalitnation

    Probably One Christ and one Buddha were not enough to spread the message of “LOVE”, when there are so many HATEMONGERS around.

    LOVE BEGETS LOVE, HATE BEGETS HATE

  184. “WILL THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU WORSHIPER”

    Chumber,

    Either you are blind or you are an idiot. I told you already am an atheist. How freaking insulting it is you classify me as a vaidik worshiper. Which school did you go to? Can you read, understand and interpret simple english correctly?

  185. Karthikeyan said

    Rama said Lakshmana is without wife, meaning he is far away from his wife. Doesn’t mean Lakshmana was bachelor.

  186. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! WHY DID LAKSHMAN LEFT HIS WIFE AT AYODYA FOR 14 YEARS ? YOUR ANSWER IS ILLOGICAL AND UNETHICAL ! DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW LAKSHMAN TO MARRY WITH SURAPNAKHA ?
    LAKSMAN`S WIFE WAS ALSO FAR AWAY FROM HIS HUSBAND ! DID SHE ALSO ACT LIKE LAKSMAN ? YOUR THINKING IS MALE DOMINANT .RAMA SHOULD ALSO GAVE PROOF OF HIS PURITY AT SRI LANKA ?

  187. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. DILIP MURLIDARAN ! I AM NEITHER BLIND NOR IDIOT .!
    YOU ARE NEITHER ATHEIST NOR ETHICAL !!!!!

  188. Chumber,

    When i specifically told you im an atheist you call me vaidik worshipper. That is proof you are either blind or an idiot. Show me PROOF that im not atheist.

  189. shehindhapmuppy said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! WHY DID LAKSHMAN LEFT HIS WIFE AT AYODYA FOR 14 YEARS ? YOUR ANSWER IS ILLOGICAL AND UNETHICAL ! DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW LAKSHMAN TO MARRY WITH SURAPNAKHA ?
    LAKSMAN`S WIFE WAS ALSO FAR AWAY FROM HIS HUSBAND ! DID SHE ALSO ACT LIKE LAKSMAN ? YOUR THINKING IS MALE DOMINANT .RAMA SHOULD ALSO GAVE PROOF OF HIS PURITY AT SRI LANKA ?
    ———
    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    1) Lakshman gave a sacrifice as big as Ram by leaving His wife Urmila at Ayodhya and accompanying Ram to forest. You do not know Ramayan but you want to make politics out of it.

    2) Go to Yama Bhagvan. Tell him you want to meet Ram. He will give you address. Then you go to Vaikuntam and ask Him proof of purity at Sri Lanka.

    3)
    Give proof that you are not bothered about promoting yourself as politician.
    Give proof that you are not illogical and unethical.
    Give proof to disallow a lobotomy to be performed on you by court’s order.
    Give proof that you are genuinely concerned about the poor by giving away all your wealth to them.

  190. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I WILL SUBMIT YOUR PRO RELIGIOUS STATEMENTS .YOUR BEHAVIOUR IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM THE WORSHIPERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .YOUR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM THESE EVIL PEOPLE . MIND YOUR LANGUAGE , PLEASE .

  191. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHERE IS MR. HAPPY HINDU ? ? ? ? ?
    WHY NOT HE REPLY ? WHY MR./MRS.DAKRISHNASI REPLY INSTEAD OF MR. HAPPY HINDU ? IS HE NOW RAN-CHHOD ? IS HE IN HOSPITAL ? IS HE RESEARCHING ON LATEST VADIK ABUSES ?

  192. Karthikeyan said

    Chumber Ji,
    Rama was merciful, but you are expecting too much from him. Surpanaka was approaching Rama with lust. Lust, just like Chumberwad, cannot be corrected by polite conversation. Still Rama spoke politely to her and declined her offer of wifehood. He temporarily directed her to his brother just in order to deviate her from himself. This was a tactic used by Rama to protect his austerity and pure love to Sita. So he doesn’t seriously recommend Lakshmana to marry Surpanaka.
    Even Lakshmana talks to Surpanaka in polite and intelligent manner for long declining her lustful approach. Surpanaka’s episode is often described as been written for adding humour (haasya) to the epic. In this episode, Rama and Lakshmana deviate Supanaka from each other to the other and it is comedy.
    But after sometime Surpanaka turns hostile and approaches Sita offensively to attack. Rama stops Surpanaka and orders Lakshmana to amputate her. Lakshmana who was already enraged by Surpanaka’s act of trying to attack Sita, jumped into action and completed his duty as follower of Rama’s commands.
    Lakshmana’s duty in exile was to serve Rama and Sita, which would be impossible in case Urmila (Lakshmana’s wife) had accompanied him. That’s why he left her in Ayodhya.
    Rama need not have to prove his purity because he was in the company of his brothers/friends/sages all the time in exile. But Sita was in the forcible possession of lustful wicked demon. She was in the midst of all stranger men for several years. So she was required to prove her purity. Clear?

  193. shhhapinendupy said

    WHERE IS MR. HAPPY HINDU ? ? ? ? ?
    WHY NOT HE REPLY ? WHY MR./MRS.DAKRISHNASI REPLY INSTEAD OF MR. HAPPY HINDU ? IS HE NOW RAN-CHHOD ? IS HE IN HOSPITAL ? IS HE RESEARCHING ON LATEST VADIK ABUSES ?
    —————————

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    Please read the post which i already made ( i am waiting for you to file with the police that people abused you on dalitnation blog. Let the police investigate this blog, When we petition we will need to use police info on this blog’s owner and people like you. Or ask this blog owner to give his name and address. Even you have not given your postal address. Do not talk abt being ran-chod like a true dumbhead, go file a case then talk, otherwise accept you are a coward) :

    After i post, the message repetedly comes “discarded”. I have the need to post under different names. You ask your dalitnation why they are blocking my postings, then i will write only under one name.

  194. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHY DID LAKASHAMAN ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS WIFE URMILA ?

    shehindhapmuppy said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 1:30 pm

    ” Mr.Dumbedkar,
    1) Lakshman gave a sacrifice as big as Ram by leaving His wife Urmila at Ayodhya and accompanying Ram to forest. You do not know Ramayan but you want to make politics out of it.”
    MY VIEWS ARE : – LAKSHAMAN DID SACRIFICE OR URMILA ? WAS LAKSHAMAN BANISHED BY HIS FATHER ( ? ) DASRATH ? WHY DID HE ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS WIFE URMILA ? I KNOW THE RAMAYNA VERY WILL ! I WILL CHURN IT !
    YOU PLEASE USE CIVILISED LANGUAGE .I DO NOT MIND YOUR LANGUAGE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO ABUSES !

  195. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    Chumber Ji,
    Rama need not have to prove his purity because he was in the company of his brothers/friends/sages all the time in exile. But Sita was in the forcible possession of lustful wicked demon. She was in the midst of all stranger men for several years. So she was required to prove her purity. Clear?

  196. C . L . CHUMBER said

    SITA DARED TO ACCOMPANY RAMA DURING HIS BANISHMENT BUT RAM COULD NOT DARE TO ACCOMPANY SITA DURING HER BANISHMENT !!!!!
    LAKSHMAN WAS A CRUEL BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO DID NOT DARE TO TELL SITA ABOUT HER BANISHMENT IN ADVANCE !!!!!

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    Chumber Ji,
    Lakshmana’s duty in exile was to serve Rama and Sita, which would be impossible in case Urmila (Lakshmana’s wife) had accompanied him. That’s why he left her in Ayodhya.

  197. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ” SHHHAPINENDUPY ” ? ? ? ? ?

    shhhapinendupy said,

    October 10, 2008 @ 2:51 am

  198. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MENTALLY RETARDED VAIDIK PEOPLE ABUSE EVERY TIME .BEWARE OF UNCULTURED ABUSIVE VAIDIK PEOPLE !!!!!

  199. hindushemhappy said

    WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ” SHHHAPINENDUPY ” ? ? ? ? ?
    ————————-

    Chumber, have you heard of an Anagram?

    If you are so bothered abt other’s identities, first you give you address. Then ask this malicious cowardly blog owner to give his name and address. Then you talk. Otherwise just buzz up.

  200. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    You said “MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?-C . L. CHUMBER

    My answer: Simple. 1) Nobody believes in stories of hatered and fault finding
    2) We respect others beliefs. We dont want disturb them
    3) We dont want to hate each other based on stories

    By the way the thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people.

    There are stories that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old!.

    Are you telling that we should talk bad about the prophet based on a false story like the above. You should be ashamed to talk bad about the prophet because all Muslims believe that Muhammad was sinless in the sense of transmitting the revelation.

    I would rather believe that he was a good person rather than a bad person, because there are so many people who believe he is good. One insane guy writing bad things cannot defeat the faith of all our muslim brothers and sisters.

  201. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ARE VEDAS , PURANAS ,RAMAYNA AND MAHABHARTA FICTIONS ? ? ? ? ?
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Mesquiteice said ( October 14, 2008 @ 12:57 pm ) ,” Chumber,You said “MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?-C . L. CHUMBER .”

    My ( Mr.Mesquiteice ) answer: Simple. 1) Nobody believes in stories of hatered and fault finding .
    MY ( C. L. CHUMBER ) ANSWER IS ALSO SIMPLE : ARE VEDAS , PURANAS , RAMAYNA AND MAHABHARTA FICTIONS ? ? ? ? ? WHO DID WRITE , DEFEND , GLORIFY THESE HATERED AND FAULTED STORIES ? THEN WHY DO THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS RECOGNIZE THESE LITERATURE AS THEIR HOLY BOOKS ? ? ? ? ?
    2) We respect others beliefs. We dont want disturb them .
    MY ( C.L.CHUMBER )ANSWER IS ;- I ALSO RESPECT OTHERS BELIEFS BASED ON ETHICS !!!!! WE ARE AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    3) We dont want to hate each other based on stories
    MY ( C.L.CHUMBER ) ANSWER : – WE ALSO DO NOT HATE OTHERS .WE HATE THE EVILS AND THE PERSONS WHO WORSHIP , GLORIFY AND DEFEND THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!! DO YOU NOT HATE THE EVILS AND THE PERSONS WHO WORSHIP , GLORIFY AND DEFEND THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ? OR DO YOUR GOOD SELF LOVE THE EVILS AND THE PERSONS WHO WORSHIP , GLORIFY AND DEFEND THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ?

  202. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDUS ` PARENTS AND FOREFATHERS TRAINED HIM IN VEDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE THAT IS WHY HE NEVER WRITE A PARAGRAPH WITHOUT ABUSES !!!!! I THINK HE SPEAK THE SAME ABUSIVE LANGUAGE WITH HIS ELDERS AND YOUNGERS ALSO !!!!! BEWARE OF INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU ABUSERS !!!!!

  203. SanJam said

    chumber,
    lakshman didnt get his wife along so that he could screw your mum or sisters!
    got it?
    if you havent, you gotta do some serious questioning around ur den,,, or also check out some ripped clits///
    tada 😉

  204. lavanya said

    MR. HAPPY HINDUS ` PARENTS AND FOREFATHERS TRAINED HIM IN VEDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE THAT IS WHY HE NEVER WRITE A PARAGRAPH WITHOUT ABUSES !!!!! I THINK HE SPEAK THE SAME ABUSIVE LANGUAGE WITH HIS ELDERS AND YOUNGERS ALSO !!!!! BEWARE OF INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU ABUSERS !!!!!
    —————–

    Chumber,

    I have stopped using abusive language for you. Because now i pity you. Even abuses cannot make you file a case. You are full of empty threats and lies.

    You are nobody to tell me what language i use where. You are the only person with whom i have used this level of abusive language ever so far. i thot you are the type that only understands the language of aggression. But now i have understood that you are mad.

    Btw, did you parents and forefathers teach you to repeat Sanjam’s type of sick language?

  205. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you answered one part of my post. Do you agree with the other part also about the prophet and ayisha and do you feel that the prophet muhammed was a bad person.

    I will post my answer after your views on prophet.

  206. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. MESQUITEICE !
    ONE DAY YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO APPRECIATE MY RATIONAL STEAD FAST STAND AGAINST ON RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! ONE DAY YOU WILL HAVE TO CONDEMN SEVERLY THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU ABUSERS !!!!! IT IS SHAMEFUL THAT THE HAPPY HINDUS TYPE ILLOGICAL VAIDIK PEOPLE ABUSE ME WITHOUT ANY REASON . BUT I AM PROUD OF MYETHICAL STAND !!!!!
    mesquiteice said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:35 am

    Chumber,

    congrats on your improvement.

    You have now started to see good things in a person who the whole world feels to be bad?

    You have now understood that nobody is bad and even bad people are good.

    I like this and is appreciated.

  207. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Firstly your stand is not rational because you are basing your hatred based on stories. rationality requires reasons.

    It it funny that you claim others to be without reason and logic.

    Please think before you can speak.

    Please give me one reason for using bad words against “GODS”, except your stories

  208. aparna bhardwaj said

    hey! i m surprised?why r u all busy in such stupid exchange?
    the very world’s people know very well ‘,what prevailing in this country?
    think-
    how the aryans the invadours through the bunkum of their religios hindu mythology entirely based on confebulations,febrications,crafty man minded imaginationary,tricky stories ,all fictions about so called their hindu gods n their varna vyavastha and so called religiouse books full of violence/ war with in family(mahabharat),ramayana destorted edition by tulsi and so many other books called vedas or upnishdas and afcaurse manusmriti befooling the majority people of this country?????
    the time is not to exchange hot words but to be aware organise and act for ‘”Apnaraaj”
    i mean to fight for freedom from these invadours. think once again !all my dear indiginouse brothers and sisters.
    pl. as we r not to waste our valuable time for such foolish exchange with those of shrewed abominable sect of people.
    forget exchange with them ,wolfs or hyinas or hounds when r in group make lions to leave their prey and run away leaving their prey for them

  209. aparna bhardwaj said

    and this only these invadoures did with (us/our enscesters)the people of this country. is not that so?
    so my lion brothers and sisters let’s come together on one plateform,unite ,organise, strengthen ourselves & counter to get our rights.
    that’s only the right way to go ahead.

    jai bhim

  210. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I BEING A SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON WILL GIVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE VAIDIK ABUSERS THAT THE WORLD WILL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE WELL !!!!!

  211. lavanya said

    I BEING A SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON WILL GIVE A BEFITTING REPLY TO THE VAIDIK ABUSERS THAT THE WORLD WILL KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE WELL !!!!!
    ————-

    Yes you can give all your “befitting” replies in court. Now you come on and give your address. Why are you hesitating so much?

  212. lavanya said

    Aparna Bharadwaj,

    Do not speak without knowing things in proper perspective.

    You are only repeating dumb-stuff like a parrot told to you by your political masters.

  213. Karthikeyan said

    Aparna Ji, welcome. Please know that you are in a democratic country and you are ruling yourself. And no one holds you captive and the freedom you’re looking for is already with you. You don’t like the stories in some religion. So what? Don’t like it. Why do you snatch their peace? Why are you raising a war cry calling your “lion brothers” against those other friends?

  214. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN !
    WAS RAM MERCIFUL WHO KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK AND BANISHED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA ? ? ? ? ?

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    ” Chumber Ji,
    Rama was merciful, but you are expecting too much from him. Surpanaka was approaching Rama with lust. Lust, just like Chumberwad, cannot be corrected by polite conversation. Still Rama spoke politely to her and declined her offer of wifehood. He temporarily directed her to his brother just in order to deviate her from himself. This was a tactic used by Rama to protect his austerity and pure love to Sita. So he doesn’t seriously recommend Lakshmana to marry Surpanaka.
    Even Lakshmana talks to Surpanaka in polite and intelligent manner for long declining her lustful approach. Surpanaka’s episode is often described as been written for adding humour (haasya) to the epic. In this episode, Rama and Lakshmana deviate Supanaka from each other to the other and it is comedy.
    But after sometime Surpanaka turns hostile and approaches Sita offensively to attack. Rama stops Surpanaka and orders Lakshmana to amputate her. Lakshmana who was already enraged by Surpanaka’s act of trying to attack Sita, jumped into action and completed his duty as follower of Rama’s commands.
    Lakshmana’s duty in exile was to serve Rama and Sita, which would be impossible in case Urmila (Lakshmana’s wife) had accompanied him. That’s why he left her in Ayodhya.
    Rama need not have to prove his purity because he was in the company of his brothers/friends/sages all the time in exile. But Sita was in the forcible possession of lustful wicked demon. She was in the midst of all stranger men for several years. So she was required to prove her purity. Clear? “

  215. mesquiteice said

    Aparna Bharadwaj,

    way to go. we are never in the way of your progression. We welcome your comments.

    In fact we are happy that our brothers and sisters are progressive looking, even if they have to blame us rather than wasting time in abusing others

    All the best and may all the other people who claim to be opressed also start thinking in this angle

  216. Muthukaruppan B said

    KRISHINDUSHUEM! You wrote “Misquotes the Gita and Manusmrithi, Calls his Muslim friend as Zindabad, Defends a given point in Islam (Muhammad-Ayesha), Lies repetedly, …”.

    ==>> Just for a slight modification, anyone who “quotes” from Manusmriti, whether Chumberji or others, will do well to remember TWO THINGS about this text:: 1) In the Vedic religion, Manus are like successive Emperors, each one presiding over a certain economic duration of time, called Manvantara. Unfortunatel what we have today is a mix of remnants of not only the text appropriate for THIS Manvatara but also of the previous ones, and in this sense, not an absolutely dependable text. The concept of Manu-s, if you can call it a ‘Concept’ tells us that each Yuga and each Manvantara has got its own versions of MANU-SMRITHI, which is formulated by Seers with all their heart and soul dedicated to just the welfare of humanity and the whole ecology, regarding the individual and collective (society-level or collective) level discipline patterns keeping in view the natural bent of mind which is dictated by the passage of time itself. By dictate of the passage of time is meant certain trends of behaviour and character within which man falls, over which he does not have control of his free will except to a small extent. As a mathematical statistician will understand, trend lines are drawn through a set of numerous point observations over the time scale, and except for a small number of deviating points will lie very close on either side of the trend line. Thus, once the trend of the time is perceived by the seers (not ordinaries like you and me, and with his permission, Mr Chumber), they formulate the maximum benefit trend line over the respective Manvantara.

    Ok, I won’t harp more on that, even though I am conscious that many of the readers will likely find what I have written obscure and inadequate. The truth is that when many of us, given our ordinary levels of patience, perseverence, and dedication to a balance bet. logic and what is right, have really no real locus standi to doubt the sincerity or question the competence of these great seers whose view is not just that of India, or South or North India in it, or Asia, or the Eastern hemisphere, or even the entire earth, but the entire universe and the ecology with which it is bubbling with life and evoltion. Neither science, nor philosophy, nor religious insights, nor the claimed direct revelations of messiahs like Jesus or Prophets like Md Nabi, are in themselves or together going to help us decode the mysterious ways in which these kindest souls on earth, the finest emissaries of God Himself, thought and codified Manu-smrtitis. THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT DUE TO RAVAGES OF TIME THE DEPREDATIONS OF EVIL MEN THOUGHTFULLY DESCRIBED AS asuras, MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL MANUSMRITI DESIGNED FOR our AGE IS LOST, AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE IS A JUMBLE OF INJUNCTIONS FROM THE SCRIPT FOR VARIOUS MANVANTARAS.

    But what is said is that the Chatur Varna – Chatur Ashrama principles are eternal, transcending time and space. The particular Manusmrtitis even after time-related modifications must conform within the eternal law of the first Manu, who formulated the Varna Aashram dharma as the basic directive principles which in the wisdom of man shall not be violated except to his own peril. Right now, the present Manvantara* and Yuga* is experiencing a nosedive towared Immorality masquerading as Morality, Untruth as Truth, Injustice as Justice, …. [* Please try and understand these doing your own research, I don’t think Dalit Nation is particularly enlightening on the truths of it, since that site is over-obsessd with UNTRUTHS, FALSEHOODS, PERVERSIONS, RAPES, … all that are bundled together as Aasurika (or Asura Bhaava ) qualities.] Even in the Treta Yuga when Sri Rama lived as an incarnation of God and showed how to lead the life of man, within all the onslaughts of time and environment, there was much evil, as we all know. And even worse was the Dvaapara Yuga in which Sri Krishna lived. The Kaliyuga will be even worse, and the only CONSOLATION for us is that what we are experiencing as EVIL today will be magnified unimaginably manifold, in the times ahead, since there is a preponderant portion of Kali still to be logged on.

  217. Muthukaruppan B said

    A CORRECTION: Manus are like successive Emperors, each one presiding over a certain EONIC – not Economic – duration of time

  218. Samukham-Ventaka said

    My name is blocked again. Am using another name.

    Muthukaruppan,

    Thanks for your wonderful post.

    Yes it is abstract. Despite a few reads, am not sure if i have understood properly.

    Also i feel such things are best spoken in person for clarity.

    I will try to feel consolation for the age we are in because it means Kaliyuga will sooner or later come to an end.

  219. Karthikeyan said

    Yes Chumber Ji, Rama was merciful who gave lots of chance to Ravana to correct himself, who respectfully cremated even the enemy troops.

  220. C . L. CHUMBER said

    I will post ” HOW VAIDIK GOD BRAHMA ABDUCTED A BACKWARD CLAS GUJJAR GAYATARI TO BE HIS WIFE ” after your views on RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS !!!!!.

  221. mesquiteice said

    Muthukaruppan,

    Thanks,

    Your explanation seems to provide some kind of a reason to this whole thing in the middle of deep confusion. Any way the main point is that I understand that Chumber’s manusmrity is not meant for us in Kali Yuga.

    Can you enligthen us on what was the “eternal law of the first manu”.

  222. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,
    you said “I will post ” HOW VAIDIK GOD BRAHMA ABDUCTED A BACKWARD CLAS GUJJAR GAYATARI TO BE HIS WIFE ” after your views on RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS !!!!!.”

    My answer: Views can be given only if you give a situation and certain facts. not aspertions.

    Suppose I say “Give your views on Chumber” it is meaningless. However, it makes sense to say “Give your views on Chumber’s discussion in E-dialouge about hinduism”? then we can provide.

    Please let us know what is that you want our views on and we shall do the needful

  223. VenkataSamukham said

    Muthukaruppan,

    Like Mesquiteice, am waiting to hear more from you on this as well.

    Request you to earnestly to post more, since the details you gave in the previous post is very insufficient.

  224. C .L . CHUMBER said

    M/S HAPPY HINDU INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU ABUSERS BLAME OTHERS AND THEY ARE ADMITTING THEIR SCRIPTURES AS STORY BOOKS !!!!!

    Mr.Mesquiteice said,
    October 22, 2008 @ 10:07 am

    Chumber,
    If you want to talk talk with reasons, dont abuse others and other religions based on stories.

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/o-dalits-wake-up/

    • i j swamy said

      Ambedkar did not sacrifice anything for the nation .He wanted Brahimins to sacrifice for him .

  225. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Your explanation on “HOW VAIDIK GOD BRAHMA ABDUCTED A BACKWARD CLAS GUJJAR GAYATARI TO BE HIS WIFE ” is definitely your own story and not a scripture.

    The biggest and most powerful and important scripture of Hinduism is the scripture of LOVE. Other scriptures are supplementary and cannot go beyond this.

    Your allegation and abuses of other beliefs are 100% cooked up stories and are a direct result of hatered that you hold against others beliefs.

    I am sure that love will one day succeed and destroy the hate in you heart.

    I am waiting.

  226. venksamuk said

    M/S HAPPY HINDU INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU ABUSERS BLAME OTHERS AND THEY ARE ADMITTING THEIR SCRIPTURES AS STORY BOOKS !!!!!
    —————-
    Your braying and showing off your hollow head with your dumb pronouncements and blatant lies and miserable concoctions, cannot change one thing in the sanatan fold chumber…you are the one that needs a story-book (like quran perhaps) like a 5-year old chumber, to go to sleep (with fitful nightmares of muhammad)…

  227. mesquiteice said

    My friend sent me this story which i want to share with all of you:-

    There was a blind girl who hated herself because she was blind. She hated everyone, except her loving boyfriend. He was always there for her. She told her boyfriend,
    ‘If I could only see the world, I will marry you.’ One day, someone donated a pair of eyes to her. When the bandages came off, she was able to see everything, including her boyfriend. He asked her, ‘Now that you can see the world, will you marry me?’ The girl looked at her boyfriend and saw that he was blind. The sight of his closed eyelids shocked her. She hadn’t expected that. The thought of looking at them the rest of her life led her to refuse to marry him. Her boyfriend left in tears and days later wrote a note to her saying: ‘Take good care of your eyes, my dear, for before they were yours, they were mine.’ This is how the human brain often works when our status changes. Only a very few remember what life was like before, and who was always by their side in the most painful situations.

    Life Is a Gift

    Today
    before you say an unkind word – Think of someone who can’t speak.
    Before you complain about the taste of your food – Think of someone who has nothing to eat.
    before you think of pointing the finger or condemning another – Remember that not one of us is without sin.
    And when depressing thoughts seem to get you down – Put a smile on your face and think: you’re alive and still around.

  228. C.L .CHUMBER said

    AS SUGGESTED ,I WILL STUDY THE QURAN AND EVEN TO VISIT MAKKA AND MADINA FOR DEEP RESEARCH . A FEW YEARS AGO , I PURCHASED A SET OF ” SACRED BOOKS OF THE EAST ” BY MAX MULLER IN 50 VOLS .NOW I WILL PURCHASE THE QURAN !

    Venksamuk said,
    November 6, 2008 @ 3:38 pm

    Your braying and showing off your hollow head with your dumb pronouncements and blatant lies and miserable concoctions, cannot change one thing in the sanatan fold chumber…you are the one that needs a story-book (like quran perhaps) like a 5-year old chumber, to go to sleep (with fitful nightmares of muhammad)…

  229. “I WILL STUDY THE QURAN AND EVEN TO VISIT MAKKA AND MADINA FOR DEEP RESEARCH”

    Nice, that proves chumber to be funded my extremist islam. Can all the secular muslims commenting in this thread issue a fatwa against this fool for spoiling the name of islam by making rude remarks on other sects of the society?

  230. Chumber, Its Mecca and Medina. Stop insulting Islamic holy places with deliberate mis-pronunciations and spelling mistakes.

  231. The Indian said

    No doubt B.R.Ambedkar was a gr8 man but we Brahmins are the pioneers for India’s success and not the Filthy,bloody,fucking Dalits

  232. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) ADMITTED FINALLY THAT BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!

    BUT HE NEVER DISCARD HIS ABUSIVE VEDIK LANGUAGE ,” Barking dogs try to bite but can never bite.”

    OUR TRUE GOD WON OVER THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFY OF RAPISTS , RACIST , FASCIST AND FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS ULTIMATELY !!!!!
    SATYA MEV JAYATEY BY E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

  233. C.L .CHUMBER said

    DEAR DILIP MURALIDARAN JI ! YOU ARE BELOW THE AGES OF MY TWO SONS – ONE MANAGER IN MNC WHO DID BSc ( HONS) SOFTWARE ENGINEERING FROM THE WESTMINSTER UNIVERSITY , LONDON ( UK ) !
    NOW , I COME TO THE POINT .MR. HAPPY HINDU SUGGESTED ME TO READ THE QURAN . IS IT NOT TRUE ? I WROTE ,” I WILL STUDY THE QURAN AND EVEN TO VISIT MAKKA AND MADINA FOR DEEP RESEARCH .” IS IT NOT TRUE ?
    THEN YOUR GOOD SELF REACTED SHARPLY ,” Nice, that proves chumber to be funded my extremist islam.” IS NOT TRUE ?
    NOW , PLEASE TELL ME THAT READING A RELIGIOUS BOOK LIKE THE QURAN HOW BECOMES EXTREMIST ACTIVITY ? ? ? ? ?
    ARE PURCHASING , POSSESSING AND READING THE QURAN OR ANY OTHER RELIGION`S BOOK ( S) AND VISITING MAKKA AND MADINA OR ANY OTHER RELIGION `S PLACES ARE ILLEGAL AND UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES ? ? ? ? ? IT IS FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION THAT IT IS MY FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AND NO WORLD POWER CAN STOP ME TO EXERCISE THIS RIGHT .PLEASE KEEP IT IN YOUR GOOD SELF`S Sr. Tech Instructor – EMC MIND !!!!!
    DEAR DILIP JI ! NEXT YOUR GOOD SELF WROTE WITH A VERY MIND ,” Can all the secular muslims commenting in this thread issue a fatwa against this fool for spoiling the name of islam by making rude remarks on other sects of the society ? ”
    WHAT FOOLISHNESS HAD I DONE THAT THE MUSLIMS WILL ISSUE FATWA AGAINST ME ? YOUR GOOD SELF HAD WRITTEN THAT HAZRAT MOHAMMAD RAPED HIS WIFE AYESHA ! DID YOU NOT WRITE ? WILL NOT MUSLIMS ISSUE FATWA AGAINST YOUR GOOD SELF FOR DEFAMING HAZARAT MOHAMMAD ?
    ARE YOU NOT AGAINST RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AND HENCE AGAINST RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ? ? ? ? ?
    NEXT , I ALWAYS WRITE ‘ YOUR GOOD SELF ” AND YOUR GOOD SELF ALWAYS WRITE ME FOOL .I HOPE YOUR PARENTS, GRAND PARENTS , RELATIVES AND FRIENDS DO NOT USE THE ABUSIVE LANGUAGE . THEREFORE , YOU ALSO DO NOT USE THIS ABUSIVE SOFTWARE IN YOUR TECHNICAL MIND ! IF YOUR CHILDREN AND WIFE , IF YOU ARE MARRIED READ THIS LANGUAGE WILL BE ASHAMED . PLEASE DO NOT DO ANY WRONG FOR WHICH YOU OR YOUR BELOVED ONE WILL FEEL SORRY .

    NEXT , YOU OBJECTED THAT I WROTE WRONG MAKKA AND MADINA INSTEAD OF MECCA AND MADINA . YOU MAY SUGGEST ME CORRECT SPELLINGS BUT YOU WROTE ,” Chumber, Its Mecca and Medina. Stop insulting Islamic holy places with deliberate mis-pronunciations and spelling mistakes.”
    WHAT IS INSULTING ? I WROTE AS WE PRONOUNCED IN HINDI OR URDU .WHENEVER YOU VISIT THE OLD DELHI RAILWAY STATION , YOU WILL READ ” DILLI ” IN PUNJABI , DEHLI IN HINDI / URDU AND DELHI IN ENGLISH .

    NOW ,YOU WROTE –
    funded my extremist islam
    ( DO YOU BELONG TO EXTREMIST ISLAM ? DID YOU NOT BLAME ME AS WELL AS ISLAM FOR DOING WRONGS ? YOU DEMAND FATWA AGAINST ME WITHOUT ANY REASON BUT YOU DECLARED ISLAM A TERRORIST RELIGION ! I FEAR IF ANY FANATIC READ THIS , HE/SHE WILL ISSUE A FATWA TO BEHEAD YOUR GOOD SELF ! ! ! ! !
    YOU WROTE TWO TIMES islam instead of Islam and muslim instead of Muslim !
    Mr. Dilip Muralidaran ! ” Stop insulting Islamic holy places with deliberate mis-pronunciations and spelling mistakes.” ! ! ! ! !

    DO E-DIALOGUE NOT DISCOMFORT , DISCOMPOSE , DISCONCERT ,DISCOURAGE , DISCOURTEOUS , DISCREDIT , DISCURSIVE ,DISDAIN , DISEMBELLISH ,DISENFRICHISE WITHOUT ANY LOGIC !

    Dilip Muralidaran said,
    November 11, 2008 @ 7:43 am

    “I WILL STUDY THE QURAN AND EVEN TO VISIT MAKKA AND MADINA FOR DEEP RESEARCH” – C.L. CHUMBER

    Nice, that proves chumber to be funded my extremist islam. Can all the secular muslims commenting in this thread issue a fatwa against this fool for spoiling the name of islam by making rude remarks on other sects of the society?
    #
    Dilip Muralidaran said,

    November 11, 2008 @ 7:45 am

    Chumber, Its Mecca and Medina. Stop insulting Islamic holy places with deliberate mis-pronunciations and spelling mistakes.

  234. C.L .CHUMBER said

    DR. B.R.AMBEDKAR@ DR.B.R.AMBAWDEKAR ( WHOSE BRAHMAN TEACHER CHANGED HIS NAME ! ) DECLARED BRAHMANISM AND CAPITALISM TWO ENEMIES OF THE DALITS ! ! ! ! !
    YOUR GOOD SELF ARE GREAT PIONEERS IN VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE ! ! ! ! !

    The Indian said,
    November 11, 2008 @ 8:01 am

    No doubt B.R.Ambedkar was a gr8 man but we Brahmins are the pioneers for India’s success and not the Filthy,bloody,fucking Dalits

  235. Dr. M.R.Satish Rao said

    Dear Friends,
    I have been following the conversations here for some time.
    As a clinical psychaitrist working as a registrar in Manchester NHS hospital, I can clearly pronounce that Mr C.L.Chumber has gone insane based on the evidence available through his posts. He needs help and compassion. I wish to ask the people here if they know the family members of Mr C.L.Chumber please tell them to admit him to a good psychatric ward. It is never too late. C.L. Chumber is in the middle stage of madness and his constant obsession with words like rape etc and continous repitition of the same themes in his posts clearly prove his insanity. Compunded to this Mr Chumber is also getting older and senile dementia has set in. If left untreated Mr Chumber can go into a permanent state of mental hallucination and madness. Mr Chumber also has lost most of his reasoning and cannot carry on intelligible conversations with people. Hence I request anyone here if you know the family members of Mr Chumber, please contact them and tell them about his sorry condition. He needs immediate treatment and confinement in a psychaitric ward. He also needs to stay away from computers and internet for some time as he is inclined to start his mental recording of rapism, fascism etc.

    The treatment
    Chumber should not be allowed to read books which talk of hatred and violence. he should instead be given to read romantic literature and poems of Shakesphere, Wordsworth, Kalidasa etc. No political books to Chumber. As a doctor I would have preferred him not to read at all but that is difficult as Chumber reads a lot of books and very habituated to reading. Reading is a good habit but in some cases like Mr Chumber it can lead to madness. He should stay away from books related to Hinduism, religion in general, Buddhism, Ramayana, Puranas, Ambedkar, Dalits etc. He can read murder mysteries and science fiction and watch movies on these subjects.
    He should also stop reading the many newspapers he reads everyday. He is unable to handle and digest the news and current affairs information.
    Chumber should practise watching cartoon movies like donald duck, tom and jerry etc. This will relax his stressed brain cells and CNS.
    Chumber should follow a strict regimen of exercises like walking, yoga, pranayama.
    Apart from ingesting the prescribed Benzodiapines like valium chumber should exercise caution in his dietary habits.
    Chumber should also try to learn some musical instrument like violin, piano, table. It can give him a lot of relief.
    Gardening for few hours a day is also a good activity for the patient.

    Mr C.L. Chumber has lead a responsible life and raised a good and healthy family. It would be unjust that at his old age he should fall prey to compulsive obsessive insanity. But with good treatment Chumber can spend his old age in a good quality lifestyle and peace.

    Thanks.
    Dr M.R.Satish Rao
    Senior Registrar
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K

  236. lavanyamur said

    AS SUGGESTED ,I WILL STUDY THE QURAN AND EVEN TO VISIT MAKKA AND MADINA FOR DEEP RESEARCH . A FEW YEARS AGO , I PURCHASED A SET OF ” SACRED BOOKS OF THE EAST ” BY MAX MULLER IN 50 VOLS .NOW I WILL PURCHASE THE QURAN !
    —————

    Nice.

    But you need to be a muslim to enter mecca and medina. And are you one?

    Btw, why only Islam? Please also go to Vatican to research on Christianity. Then go to China to research on (political-religion) Communism. Then go to Temple mount, Jerusalem to research on Judaism..then go to Japan for Shintoism….then go to Africa to study amazulu, rastafarianism…when you are back, let us know.

    Good Luck and Happy Journey 😀

  237. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I HAVE NOT SO MUCH MONEY AND TIME TO GO EVERY WHERE .YOU OR YOUR FRIENDS MAY GO THERE and research !

  238. C.L .CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMAN COMMUNITY WHICH COULD NOT PRODUCED EVEN A SINGLE MERITORIOUS DOCTOR TO OPERATE A BRAHMAN MR. VAJPAYEE , NOW PRODUCED / HIRED A MERITORIOUS DOCTOR M.R.Satish Rao , Senior Registrar ,
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K WHO IS A ADDICTED FOLLOWER , DEFENDER OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    M/S HAPPY HINDUS LOST THE E-DIALOGUE AND THREATS TO LEGAL WAR INCLUDING ONE SIDE VAIDIK ABUSIVE WAR ! NOW THEY STARTED THE MEDICAL WAR .THEY ALSO WILL LOST THIS WAR !!!!! OUR ULTIMATE AIM IS TO BAN WORSHIPING THE FALSE GODS , LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE WORSHIPERS OF FALSE GODS AND CONVERT THE FALSE RELIGIOUS PLACES INTO THE HOSPITALS , SCHOOLS , OLD AGE CENTRES , VOCATIONAL EDUCATION CENTRES SO THAT THE PEOPLE MAY BENEFIT .

  239. lavanyamura said

    I HAVE NOT SO MUCH MONEY AND TIME TO GO EVERY WHERE .YOU OR YOUR FRIENDS MAY GO THERE and research !
    ——–

    Mr.Crank,

    You are the one that spoke about going somewhere to do “research” Chumber :giggle: Now you are asking others to go there.

    How come you only want to go to Mecca and Medina to “research” ? Research what? Idea plans how to fracture the indian people ? How to get more funds? Or not ?

  240. C.L .CHUMBER said

    A SON OF A PROSITUTE BLAMES LIKE THIS ON OTHERS OPENLY WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE TO CREATE NUISANCE !!!!!

  241. C.L .CHUMBER said

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND DR.Dr M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K TO HIM WHETHER HE HAD WRITTEN ACTUALLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !

    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

  242. Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said

    Dear Chumber,

    “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !”

    Chumber your response to my post seems completely out of place. This is an internet blog and being a qualified psychatrist I was just trying to help you out for free. At your degree of mental instability you can see only what you like to see. That’s why I was asking readers here to inform your family members as they are the people who could help you. There is little you can do yourself as one of the signs of mental disorders is unconcious behaviour. You dont know what you are doing. The moment you become aware of your behaviour and actions you get cured. But that is a difficult process as there can be a host of reasons why you have ended up with this mental disorder. Briefly stated it can be either through nature or nurture – by nature I mean it can be nuerological, in that case we need to check your family history. Around 70% of psychaitric disorders are inherited and passed through the genes. By nurture I mean it can be through some traumatic incident or series of incidents or specific social influences.

    I am damned sure Presidents, prime ministers, UN, heads of all countries would not be intrested in your complaint. It will be a waste of your time, effort and money. You show a great deal of Narcissism, high degree of self importance and you believe that the world revolves around you. What do you think. A doctor tells you you are suffering from a mental disorder, and you complain and you think this is some international news. You send a mail to all the presidents of the world and UN and suddenly these guys will think – “oh how dare this doctor abuse the great Chumber”. Come on Chumber get real. You are not an international celebrity.

    The most ordinary thing in the world is that everyone feels they are extraordinary. Get it Chumber. But C L Chumber thinks is deluded that he is a well known and famous revolutionary all set to head some impending revolutionary movement. In my native city of Mysore, I knew a harmless mental patient who used to think that he was the president of the world. He used to wear a badge proclaiming the same and stand in street corners and give lectures on how he is running the world. Chumber you remind me on the same person just that in your case your disease is still in its infancy.

    Regarding my antecedants I am an FRCS and work in the old Clapham hospital in the area of forensic psychaitry. I have as my patients many psychopaths and sociopaths. My advanced skill levels and expertise helps me to recognize psychaitric disorders the moment I see one. Your case is too common and typical in our field.

    I once more ask the readers here, if you know of any family members of C.L.Chumber please inform them and get him treated by a qualified psychaitrist or a mental health institute. I recommed NIMHANS (National Institute of Mental health and Nuero sciences in Bangalore) as it is a premier institute in this field not just in India but widely recognized world over.

    Dr M.R.Satish Rao
    Senior Registrar
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K

    PS: “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ….”.

    BTW just curious. Would you send it to the american president. George Bush is still the president till Jan 20. Just wanted to tell you to send it to Barack Obama as well – just in case this case goes beyond Jan 20. After Obama is sworn in as the president we can still discuss your complaint with him. See you later in the White House.

  243. C.L .CHUMBER said

    BE YOU NEVER SO HIGH , THE LAW IS ABOVE YOU !. – Thomas Fuller

    LET JUSTICE BE DONE , THOUGH THE HEAVENS FALL ! – William Watson ,602 AD .
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS JUSTICE – IN OR OUT OF COURT .-Clarence Darrow , 1936 AD

  244. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I AM HAPPY TO INFORM ALL THAT M/S HAPPY HINDUS HAVE LOST THE E-BATTLE !

    I AM ASHAMED TO BE AN INDIAN WHERE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED AS GODS AND THEIR ABUSIVE VEDIK FOLLOWERS ARE DECLARING OTHERS MADS .

    IN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS THE MADS DECLARE OTHERS MADS .

    AFTER LOOSING THE ABUSIVE WAR,NOW THEY HIRED MEDICAL DOCTORS !!!!!

    THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND EVIL FOLLOWERS IS IN A DECISIVE STAGE . SATYA MEV JAYATEY !!!!!

    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    Chumber,

    Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.

    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).

    Without using your “rapist, racist and fascist” terms for Gods, if you can simply come ahead and describe your concept of “God”, i would be very much willing to discuss various concepts with you on the sane human level. I hope you agree to this. Please make a conscious effort and do not allow your ego to reject this. Thanks.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation

  245. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WILL THE FOLLOWERS OF RAVAN START TO CELEBRATE SITA-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ?

    WHY ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST GOD CELEBRATE TULSI-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ?

    IN HINDU TEXTS , THOSE WHO HAVE RAPED HAVE ONLY BEEN BURNED TO ASHES !!!!! -MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) .

    BUT THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK BRAHMAN HINDU LADIES CELEBRATED THE TULASI-VIVAH CELEBRATIONS EVERYWHERE !!!!! ( THE HINDU GOD VISHANU RAPED WITH TULASI @ VARINDA W/O ADI-MAHAGURU JALANDHAR . REF. THE PADAM PURAN , TULSI-VIVAH MOOVIE OF DARA ACTOR AND DISTT. JALANDHAR ( PUNJAB ) GAZETEER ! ) .

    WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE FOLLOWERS OF RAVNA START TO CELEBRATE SITA-VIVAH ? ? ? ? ? HINDU GOD RAM NEVER CONSIDERED SITA AS PURE EVEN SHE WAS ESTABLISHED PURE BY THE AGANI-PRIKSHA ! HE EVEN THEN BANISHED HER ON THIS CHARGE .HE EVEN ASKED SITA ABOUT HIS PURITY IN THE VALMIKI ASHRAM . THE INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA HAD TO COMMIT SUICIDE TO GET RID OF RAM`S BASELESS BLAMES

  246. C.L .CHUMBER said

    BRAHMIN WOMEN ON THE MAJOROTY ARE QUITE HOT !!!!! -MURLIDHARAN

    – – – BRAHMINS DON`T EXIT AT ALL !!!!! – DALIP MURLIDHARAN

    Dilip Muralidaran said,
    December 31, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

    Admit it, brahmin women on the majority are quite hot. They are fair, pretty and elegant. Ambedkar is a man like anyone, obvious he liked her and got married into her. Your theories about marrying brahmin women so that us brahmins dont have women to marry at all is actually fantastic. In fact i would love that to happen so that brahmins dont exist at all. That would mean that dalits dont exist either when there are no brahmins.

    I wonder whom you would have left to blame for all of your problems after all brahmins are dead. The Jews?
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmi

  247. C.L .CHUMBER said

    OUR TRUE GOD WILL BLESS THE ALL CREATURES TO BE GENIUS !!!!!

    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    CHUMBER,

    AM THOROUGHLY ASHAMED BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING COZ I DO NOT WANT MY WORDS TO BE MISUSED BY YOU AGAIN !!!!!

    AM POSTING THIS HEARTFELT APPRECIATION FOR YOU CHUMBER !!!!!

    DESPITE MY CALLING SUCH HORRIBLE NAMES REPEATEDLY , STILL YOU DID NOT RETALIATE AND CALL ME NAMES !!!!!

    YOU HAVE MORE PATIENCE , MORE KINDNESS AND MORE PERSEVERANCE THAN WHAT I AM CAPABLE OF , CHUMBER !!!!!

    BE BLESSED ( IN WHATEVER WAY THAT MAKES YOU HAPPY ) .

    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    Chumber,

    Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.

    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).

  248. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I AND THE DALIT-NATION`S ADMINISTRATOR OR OUR FOREFATHERS ARE NOT RAPISTS LIKE BRAHMA , INDER AND VISHANU !!!!!

    I AND THE DALIT-NATION`S ADMINISTRATOR OR OUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT INVENTED THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE WORST EVER SYSTEM OF GRADATION AND DE-GRADATION !!!!!

    I AND THE DALIT-NATION`S ADMINISTRATOR OR OUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM JUST LIKE VISHANU , BRAHMA AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DID !!!!!

    I AND DALIT-NATION`S ADMINISTRATOR OR OUR FOREFATHERS NEVER PREACHED HATE AND VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PEACE LOVERS AND NON-VIOLENT PEOPLE !!!!!

    WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE RESTORING OF OUR LOST FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

    HOW WE FINISHED THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE TRUE INDIANS ? ? ? ? ?

    WHO ARE TRUE OR FALSE INDIANS ? ? ? ? ?

    A FOLLOWER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST RELIGION CAN NOT BE A TRUE INDIANS ! ! ! ! !

    THE HINDU RELIGION IS A TERRORIT PHILOSOPHY WHO INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!!!

    DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!

  249. Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said

    Hello Mr. Chumber,

    Over the weekend, I had been to the Isle of Man in the UK to witness a marriage between an Indian man and British woman, both friends of mine. This indian man to your knowledge and horror is from the Brahmin community and is a Hindu member of a group called VHP UK.
    Okay Chumber what more do you need. Do you need my contact address. I like in Stockport in Manchester. I cannot give you further details as you might recollect some things I told about my profile in earlier posts. I work primarily in the area of forensic Psychaitry and have as my patients many Sociopaths and Psychopaths. In the NHS we do not easily provide our address details to all and sundry as it is not safe. I was only trying to help you out with a priliminary diagnosis of your sorry state of your mental condition. If you recollect from my earlier post, I also suggested that your family members should see a psychaitrist for you and I suggest the reputed institute in Bangalore, NIMHANS. I would again ask people here if they know your family members ask them to contact NIMHANS bangalore to get you cured. I wish you godspeed and heal fast.

  250. C.L .CHUMBER said

    DR.M.R. SATISH RAO IS WORST EVER DOCTOR WHO IS IN FAVOUR OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS !!!!!
    HE HAS NO IDENTITY AS DOCTOR THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT INFORMED HIS MOBILE NO. AND EMAIL ADDRESS !!!!!

    HE IS A CURSE ON THE MEDICAL PROFESSION .HE IS NOT AN ETHICAL DOCTOR !!!!!

  251. lavanyamur said

    Chumber,

    Recently i took an oath kritam vadishyami and satyam vadishyami as part of something and no matter whether you believe me or not, from now on i can never lie or hide anything; and i seek to be accountable for my past mistakes.

    I did not want to continue this meaningless dialogue anymore. But you are repeatedly accusing me of being linked to satish rao and calling his posts as my ‘brainchild’. I do not know him and I do not know why you are linking me to him. To me it is very clear that you are making use of accusative behavior to feed your ego.

    Now i am beginning to understand why punjabis in the UK are not looked upon favorably. Maybe it is because shameless rioting-sort of people like you and your relatives in the UK (the ones you want to send to shout slogans against satish rao) bring a bad name to the other hardworking and industrious punjabis there.

    Am giving you the email of my cousin (a lawyer in the sf bay area but has an indian undergrad degree and can certainly practice in india as well), she is the one who not only laughed at this whole thing, but is convinced that you are mad. You may contact her directly to ask her why we did not file a case against you. Please ask her why she is so sure that you are mad and why she thinks the case will fall flat: kanikkarama@gmail.com Am certain you wud not want to hear it on an open platform like this; and i do not wish to be involved in such meaningless stuff anymore.

  252. C.L .CHUMBER said

    MR. M. R. SATISH RAO ! PLEASE RELEASE MEDICAL REPORTS ON THESE FOLLOWING PERSONS ALSO , OTHERWISE YOU ARE AN UNETHICAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TERRORIST DOCTOR !!!!!

    I WILL COMPLAIN TO INTERPOL AGAINST YOUR GOOD SELF IF YOU DID NOT RELEASE THE SAME 15 MEDICAL REPORTS !!!!!

    OR YOU SHOULD FEEL SORRY WITHIN A WEEK FOR YOUR FICTITIOUS MEDICAL REPORT TO DEFAME ME INTENTIONALLY !!!!!

    C.L .CHUMBER said,

    November 18, 2008 @ 10:42 am

    C.L .CHUMBER said,

    November 14, 2008 @ 10:12 am

    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

  253. lavanyamural said

    A SON OF A PROSITUTE BLAMES LIKE THIS ON OTHERS OPENLY WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE TO CREATE NUISANCE !!!!!
    ———————-

    Chumber,

    You can call me the child of a prostitute or anything you please…you can never change the nature of my soul.

    A guru said never try to explain matters of the spirit to worldly people. But, i do wish to tell you :

    You cannot prove that an ancestor of yours was not born of an ancient rape. It was always womenfolk of 2 groups that suffered the most – women of dead soldiers and women of men who took care of temple wealth. And not all cud commit sati, even if some took the practice to down south. Esp, coming from the northwest region if you belittle anyone’s birth, how horrible a shame it is to the men and women who have put in innumerable sacrifices to safeguard this nation.

    And i was foolish enuf to think that you really wanted to adopt the devadasis as your sisters; without knowing that this is in fact perhaps your actual attitude for those poor women.

  254. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! M/S HAPPY HINDUS SAID,” CHUMBRR ! . . .YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT , FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ; AND I SEEK TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY PAST MISTAKES !!!!! ”

    Lavanyamur said,
    November 23, 2008 @ 10:49 am

    Chumber,

    Recently i took an oath kritam vadishyami and satyam vadishyami as part of something and no matter whether you believe me or not, from now on i can never lie or hide anything; and i seek to be accountable for my past mistakes.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-3506

    MY ( C.L.CHUMBER ) COMMENTS : –
    DEAR M/S HAPPY HINDUS ! WHAT IS YOUR STAND , CLARIFICATIONS ON THOSE ISSUES WHICH WE DISCUSSED ALREADY ?

    BEFORE THIS YOU FELT PROUD OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS !

    WHAT IS YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ?

    YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT( Lavanyamursaid,November 23,2008 @ 10:49 am https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-3506) IS CONTRADICTED BY YOUR SELF WITHIN 79 MINUTES LATER ( lavanyamur said ,November 23, 2008 @ 12:08 pm https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/o-dalits-wake-up/#comment-3368)I WHEN YOUR GOOD SELF COMMENTED ON MY VIEWS ” I AM ASHAMED TO BE AN INDIAN WHERE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED AS GODS AND THEIR ABUSIVE VEDIK FOLLOWERS ARE DECLARING OTHERS MADS “.
    YOUR GOOD SELF COMMENTED AFTER OATH ,” Unfortunately for you Chumber, I will continue to be a vedik follower. And you will need to continue to be ashamed.”

    THIS IS EVIDENT BY YOUR GOOD SELF`S STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE A FLICKERING MIND !!!!!

    YOUR GOOD SELF AT LEAST HALF DOZEN TIMES REGRETTED ON YOUR BEHAVIOUR BUT YOU AGAIN REPEATED THE SAME BEHAVIOUR !!!!!

    YOUR GOOD SELF IS NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS WATCHING OUR E-DIALOGUE AND VAIDIK ABUSES !!!!!

    ONCE I REMINDED YOU THAT YOUR GOOD SELF IS GETTING VERY MUCH NEGATIVE MARKING !

    NOW YOUR GOOD SELF WILL ABUSE , BLAME AND ISSUE FICTITIOUS MEDICAL REPORTS AGAINST ME BUT IT IS EVIDENT THAT YOU CLAIMED ” EVERYONE IS AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER ” .

    PLEASE WATCH YOUR WRITINGS TO KNOW WHO IS PRO-” RAPIST RACEIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK GODS ” ?

    A TRUE GOVERNMENT , A TRUE GOD AND A TRUE SOCIETY WILL NEVER ALLOW THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS TO BE WORSHIPED , DEFENDED AND GLORIFYIED .

    BY THE WAY I WANT TO KNOW YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ? ON THESE FOLLOWING ISSUES :-

    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!!

  255. lavanyamuralidharan said

    BY THE WAY I WANT TO KNOW YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ? ON THESE FOLLOWING ISSUES :-

    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ———-

    You cannot abuse and then ask not to be abused. As mentioned before ‘evil’ such as you will continue to exist. You are the problem, not the solution.

    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ———

    My Gods are within me. Outside of me, they still represent me and my various possible attributes. I will worship all of them. It is you who wants them to be so-called rapist or whatever, which they are not. You do not wish to be explained to, you want to believe only what you want to believe. Nobody can change you. Similarly, nobody can change me, or stop me from worshiping my gods.

    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ——-
    Perhaps you can congratulate yourself for being the evil side of you.

    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!!
    ———-
    You are free to believe in anything you want to, you are also free to cook up anything you want to. And i am free to follow my path. I see you as a devolved “human” with animal instincts, far from human. There is nothing more to say to you. Bye and God Bless.

  256. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
    4) Why you are never practicing what you preach
    5) Why not you discard Allah?
    6) Did anyone ask you for your advice on Hinduism
    7) Did anyone ask you for charecter certificate for hindu gods
    8) why not you analyse the life and histroy of Allah instead
    9) Why are you so obsessed with stories
    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    11) Why are you talking bad about others

  257. C.L .CHUMBER said

    NOW EVEN A KINDERGARTEN KID WOULD KNOW THAT MR. SANJAM LIKE ABUSERS ARE VERY BAD PERSONS !!!!!

    EVEN THE COMMON MAN KNOWS THAT THE ANIMALS DO NOT RAPE !!!!!

    EVEN THE COMMON MAN KNOWS THAT THE ANIMALS DO NOT WORSHIP THE RAPISTS !!!!!

    EVEN THE COMMON MAN KNOWS THAT THE ANIMALS HAVE NO CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!

    MOST OF THE VISITORS TO THIS BLOG READ IT WITH A GOOD TASTE TO KNOW MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE RAPIST ,RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS AND THEIRS VAIDIK ABUSER FOLLOWERS !!!!!

    I RECEIVE DAILY EMAILS AND APPRECIATION CALLS !!!!!

  258. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. MESQUITEICE IS NOW MOHAMMAD MESQUITEICE !!!!!

    I HAVE ASKED TO ” DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!! ”

    I NEVER PREACHED HATERED AGAINST GOD AND ALLAH !!!!!

    I AM AGAINST THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!

    WHEN WERE YOU CONVERTED TO ISLAM ? ? ? ? ?

    MR. MOHAMMAD MESQUITEICE WILL ANSWER REGARDING HIS NEW RELIGION !
    Mesquiteice said,
    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
    4) Why you are never practicing what you preach
    5) Why not you discard Allah?
    6) Did anyone ask you for your advice on Hinduism
    7) Did anyone ask you for charecter certificate for hindu gods
    8) why not you analyse the life and histroy of Allah instead
    9) Why are you so obsessed with stories
    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    11) Why are you talking bad about others

    YOUR GOOD SELF WROTE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST HAZRAT MOHAMMAD IN THIS BLOG ! ! ! ! !

    WHAT IS YOUR STAND NOW ? ? ? ? ?

    Mesquiteice said,
    November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am

    Chumber,

    You said “DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!”

    I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being.

    why are you preaching hatered against Allah.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/narendra-modi-and-the-fall-of-hindut

  259. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Why are you feeling that you are greater than 1) kindergarden kid 2) common man

    For your information:-

    Every kid and common man is intelligent

    Kindergarden kid knows that stories are not real

    Kindergarden kid knows we should not talk hurt others

    Kindergarden kid know you should not talk bad about others

    kindergarden kid knows that love is everything

  260. C.L .CHUMBER said

    NEED NOT THE BLESSINGS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO -ARYAN GODS WHO INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM TO MAKE OUR LIVES HELL !!!!!

    Lavanyamuralidharan said,
    November 25, 2008 @ 7:04 am

    You are free to believe in anything you want to, you are also free to cook up anything you want to. And i am free to follow my path. I see you as a devolved “human” with animal instincts, far from human. There is nothing more to say to you. Bye and God Bless.

  261. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. MESQUITEICE IS NOW MOHAMMAD MESQUITEICE !!!!!

  262. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    I prefer mesquiteice-ul-haq.

    Please read chapter 109

    109:6 You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion

    I wish to correct one more this. I did not write anything against Hazrat Mohammed. You are the one calling others Allah as bad. I only wanted to show you that problems are everywhere.

  263. PAPPU " KUNDANPURI" said

    DR. M.R.SATISH RAO SHOULD CHECK THE MENTAL LEVEL OF MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE .

    MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE CLAIMED ON November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am THAT ” I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being. why are you preaching hatered against Allah.”

    BUT ON THE SAME DATE November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am AFTER 4 HOURS 31 MINUTES HIS STAND WAS U-TURN ” 1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child

    MR.C.L.CHUMBER IS A VERY DARING INTELLECTUAL WHO EXPOSED THE HINDU GODS . WE SALUTE HIS PATIENCE AND CONTINUITY .

    Mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am

    Chumber,

    You said “DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!”

    I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being.

    why are you preaching hatered against Allah.

    mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
    4) Why you are never practicing what you preach
    5) Why not you discard Allah?
    6) Did anyone ask you for your advice on Hinduism
    7) Did anyone ask you for charecter certificate for hindu gods
    8) why not you analyse the life and histroy of Allah instead
    9) Why are you so obsessed with stories
    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    11) Why are you talking bad about others

  264. PAPPU " KUNDANPURI" said

    MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE CLAIMED ON November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am THAT ” I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being. why are you preaching hatered against Allah.”

    BUT ON THE SAME DATE November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am AFTER 4 HOURS 31 MINUTES HIS STAND WAS U-TURN ” 1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child

    MR.C.L.CHUMBER IS A VERY DARING INTELLECTUAL WHO EXPOSED THE HINDU GODS . WE SALUTE HIS PATIENCE AND CONTINUITY .

    Mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am

    Chumber,

    You said “DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!”

    I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being.

    why are you preaching hatered against Allah.

    mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
    4) Why you are never practicing what you preach
    5) Why not you discard Allah?
    6) Did anyone ask you for your advice on Hinduism
    7) Did anyone ask you for charecter certificate for hindu gods
    8) why not you analyse the life and histroy of Allah instead
    9) Why are you so obsessed with stories
    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    11) Why are you talking bad about others

  265. PAPPU KUNDANPURI said

    MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE CLAIMED ON November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am THAT ” I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being. why are you preaching hatered against Allah.”

    BUT ON THE SAME DATE November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am AFTER 4 HOURS 31 MINUTES HIS STAND WAS U-TURN ” 1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child

    MR.C.L.CHUMBER IS A VERY DARING INTELLECTUAL WHO EXPOSED THE HINDU GODS . WE SALUTE HIS PATIENCE AND CONTINUITY .

  266. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! BRAHMA , VISHANU AND INDIRA WERE NOT DIFFERENT FROM BEASTS WHO RAPED LIKED BEASTS !!!!!

    HOW LONG WILL M/S HAPPY HINDUS WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS ( ? ) ?

    lavanyamurali said,

    November 26, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
    EVEN THE COMMON MAN KNOWS THAT THE ANIMALS DO NOT WORSHIP THE RAPISTS !!!!!
    Wrong. Rape is present in the animal kingdom in at least 15 diff animal species. They help researchers study aggression, behavioral genetics and allied thought processes in humans. You can make a good substitute for such studies.

  267. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I THANK MR. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA AND MR. PAPPU KUNDANPURI FOR THEIR VIEWS .

  268. mesquiteice said

    Pappu kundanpuri,

    What about other questions that i had posted. Can chumber answer them.

  269. C.L.CHUMBER said

    RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS WING (R&AW) HAS RAW AND CORRUPT OFFICERS !

    There is a “research and analysis wing” (R & AW) of the Indian government having Rs. One thousand crores budget!
    The English DNA news paper of the Daink Bhaskar Hindi group investigated about this top secret government agency. It published a news under headline ” Aatank se nahin , aapas main larh rahe hain raw ke adhikari – The officers of R&AW are fighting with each others , not fighting with terrorists !” in the Dainik Bhaskar , Jalandhar edition dated 2nd December , 2008 . The invetigation team found that the R&AW is full of corruption, nepotism and misuse of secret funds. This made bad impact on its capacity to fight against terrorism.

    The news shed light on its failure to check the Mumbai terrorist attack. The internal differences among the officers are on the basis of original officers and on deputation officers from the police .The news blamed that the head of the R&AW Mr. Ashok Chaturvedi created his group in the R&AW .Mr. Chaturvedi after taking chargeof R&AW renovated his rented flat at NOIDA (U.P.). He spent huge amount on renovation. There is another flat of Mr. Chaturvedi under renovation at NOIDA city under national capital region .Mr. Chaturvedi has a Rs. One Thousand crore budget under his discretionary power! The inner sources claimed that Mr. Chaturvedi misused the R&AW`s secret fund to settle his son in Europe.

    The investigative team claimed that Mr. Chaturvedi`s PA Mr. J.C. Kapur is not behind his boss. Mr. Kapur got selected his four daughters in the R&AW! The names of his two daughters are SIMPLE and DIMPLE who are ready to got selection for a foriegn mission after obtaining a nominal field experience in Punjab.

    The investigative team found Mr. Chaturvedi pro bonded labour. He has employed two dozens government employees at his residence out them two cooks , half dozen telephone operators , four gardeners and two for the care of dogs !

    When the security forces were fighting with the terrorists in Mumbai on 27th November,2008 , Mr. Chaturvedi was enjoying the movie . There is huge disparities in selections in the R&AW which must be investigated by the CBI so that the people may knoe the truth and un-truth in the R&AW ! If we do not rise in time , the India may lost its independence again which our freedom fighters regained with many sacrifices ! Long live our Independence !

  270. PAPPU KUNDANPURI said

    FIRST OF ALL , YOU PLEASE REPLY MY VIEWS .

    Mesquiteice said,

    December 3, 2008 @ 5:21 am

    Pappu kundanpuri,

    What about other questions that i had posted. Can chumber answer them.

  271. C.L.CHUMBER said

    mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah

    AS HINDUS PRAY TO THEIR GODS
    .
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday

    AS HINDUS CELEBRATE THEIR FESTIVALS .

    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child

    YOU ARE EXPERT IN THIS CASE . YOU MAY TELL US IN DETAIL WITH REFERENCE .

    4) Why you are never practicing what you preach

    I ALWAYS PREACH ” BEWARE OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ” AND I HATE THESE GODS .

    5) Why not you discard Allah?

    I HAVE NOT STUDIED ABOUT ALLAH . DO YOU KNOW THE REASONS TO DISCARD ALLAH ?

    6) Did anyone ask you for your advice on Hinduism

    I DO NOT GIVE ANY ADVISE ON HINDUISM .

    7) Did anyone ask you for charecter certificate for hindu gods

    INDIAN CONSTITUTION GIVE US THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR VIEWS . EVEN DR. AMBEDKAR , CHAIRMAN , INDIAN CONSTITUTION DRAFTING COMMITTEE WROTE ” RIDDLES OF HINDUISM ” WHICH MAHARASHTRA GOVERNMENT PUBLISHED .

    RAISTS , RACISTS AND FASCIST ARE NOT GODS .

    why not you analyse the life and histroy of Allah instead

    YOU MAY ENLIGHT US .
    9) Why are you so obsessed with stories

    DO YOU THINK YOUR SCRIPTURES ARE FICTIONS ?

    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom

    YOU MAY WRITE IN DETAIL . I DID NOT TELL LIE
    .
    11) Why are you talking bad about others

    YOU PEOPLE CLAIM THAT ” EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER ” AND I AM FIGHTING AGAINST THE RAPISTS , FASCISTS AND RACISTS !

    WHAT IS WRONG IN IT ? ? ? ? ?

  272. lavanyamuralidharan said

    RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS WING (R&AW) HAS RAW AND CORRUPT OFFICERS !
    —————

    Everybody knows it. If you can drop religion and caste rubbish from your agenda, and focus only on anti-corruption, you will find a lot more support and good-will that you can ever hope to get. And while you are at it, no hidden agendas please.

  273. lavanyamuralidharan said

    Mesquiteice: Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    Chumber: YOU MAY WRITE IN DETAIL . I DID NOT TELL LIE
    ————————

    Sorry for interefering in this conversation b/w you both. But i wanted to say this:

    Chumber,

    Periyar wanted an independent “dravida” country; just like muslims managed to get a seperate Pakistan (can’t you see the similarites ? ). Which house does not have problems, instead of putting effort to solve problems, why seek divorce.

    It is undeniable that in his time, superstition was rampant and some brahmins made incredulous claims. It is also true that he genuinely wanted upliftment of the downtrodden (in his time, there was no economic liberalization). But understand that cutting off the head is not the solution to raising the feet. The methods he employed were deplorable (ex: how will you feel if someone garlands the photo of Valmiki with slippers? ). Plus, who in the present generation can ever accept a man who did not support India’s independence from the British. Certainly not me.

    Chumber, periyar did not want to be associated with north-indians like you. In his time, technology was limited. He mistook north-indians as aryans, and viewed them in a very negative light. One of the main reasons why he hated brahmins was because he thought brahmins were aryan north-indians. You are a north-indian. If periyar were alive, he would never have associated with you.
    ——————

    YOU PEOPLE CLAIM THAT ” EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER ” AND I AM FIGHTING AGAINST THE RAPISTS , FASCISTS AND RACISTS !

    WHAT IS WRONG IN IT ? ? ? ? ?
    —————–

    I was the one who said: EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER – Mesquiteice did not say that. I will rephrase the sentence to EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM INCLUDING CHUMBER BUT CHUMBER IS MISTAKEN THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST, FASCIST. Satisfied?

    Chumber, i am also wondering why you are so evasive when it comes to islam…if you do not dare to question Islam in the same manner you question hinduism, then you are more than a coward, meaning you are a pucca politician.

  274. PAPPU KUNDANPURI said

    THANK YOU MR. CHUMBER FOR YOUR SATISFACTORY REPLIES .

    Mesquiteice said,

    December 3, 2008 @ 5:21 am

    Pappu kundanpuri,

    What about other questions that i had posted. Can chumber answer them.

    C.L.CHUMBER said,

    December 4, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

    mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

  275. C.L.CHUMBER said

    YOU MAY WRITE IN DETAIL WHAT I WROTE WRONG . I DID NOT TELL LIE .

    HE LIKED SHUDRAS OF EVERY WHERE .
    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

    Mesquiteice: Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom
    Chumber: YOU MAY WRITE IN DETAIL . I DID NOT TELL LIE
    ————————

  276. C.L.CHUMBER said

    EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER

    EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM including CHUMBER

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

    I was the one who said: EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER – Mesquiteice did not say that. I will rephrase the sentence to EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM INCLUDING CHUMBER BUT CHUMBER IS MISTAKEN THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST, FASCIST. Satisfied?

  277. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I AM NOT EXPERT IN ANY RELIGION EXCEPT ADI-DHARAM , SIKHISM AND HINDUISM .

    THERE IS NO BIGGEST EVER COWARD THAN YOUR GOOD SELF WHO DO NOT ADMIT THAT YOUR BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS .

    YOU ARE A FLICKERING MIND WHO HAVE NO STAND EVER ON THIS ISSUE .

    I AM NEITHER KACHA NOR PACCA POLITICIAN .

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

    Chumber, i am also wondering why you are so evasive when it comes to islam…if you do not dare to question Islam in the same manner you question hinduism, then you are more than a coward, meaning you are a pucca politician.

  278. lavanmuralid said

    Chumber, i am also wondering why you are so evasive when it comes to islam…if you do not dare to question Islam in the same manner you question hinduism, then you are more than a coward, meaning you are a pucca politician.
    ———

    Chumber,

    That is why i consider Periyar also a pucca politician – because he too did not question islam or christianity like the way he ridiculed hindusim. Nobody needs his hate-mongering philosophy….Wake up.

  279. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    10) Why you want to lie about periyar’s wisdom

    YOU MAY WRITE IN DETAIL . I DID NOT TELL LIE

    You said Periyar was a congress person. Why?

    Periyar was a wise man and was least bothered about politics. In fact he never supported political party. His idea was that politicians can never work for true upliftment of downtrodden because they had to do things to keep the vote bank happy. He never supported any political party. He wanted people to be realism and simplicity. He loved his people and gave his life for them.

    In fact he did things that are exactly opposite from what you preach. He asked people to stop using caste based surnames. Whereas you are asking people to use caste based surnames.

    If you dont know about someone. Dont speak about them.

    Do you understand how disgusting it is to hear that periyar was a congess man.

  280. IndianRationalist said

    Only Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar could have authentically explained the reason of his second marriage & why he married a Brahmin girl, a Doctor. Everyone else speculating it, particularly with a self proclaimed authority is nothing more than a pompous lamebrained scamp. Same with some others who are abusive & inclined to posting slanted remarks! Hope sense of good SANSKAR will prevail.

  281. lavanyamuralidharan said

    Note to Chumber (alias Ram Krishan Sharma@Pappu Kundanpuri),

    In your article on prescribing inter-caste marriages you have again used lies to spread your callous intentions. It was already explained that Krishna never said that women, vaishyas and shudras were anything negative, but still you stick to lies of your own making. And fool the masses with it.

    It is also amazing that you, a northie, speak typically like a periyar follower. You deride freedom fighters as communal people, praise the british and your writings very much point to a secessionist attitude. Let me warn you for the very last time that this is sedition; and it will not be tolerated.

    Everyone has genuine concern for the down-trodden like periyar did, but is that enough (though i think your concern for women is just a shallow pretence). Already explained to you that if periyar were alive, he would never have associated with you. Since you talk so much abt caste, let me tell you that people from his own community had rejected him even when he was alive. One needs to devolve to a sub-human level to agree with his hate.

    In very clear terms, chumber: Stop attacking the hindu faith with your lies and Stop making politics out of religion.

    Already mentioned there are people like me willing to accept a non-brahmin as a priest. On the condition that heredity positions and old establishments will never be touched. But do not make the mistake of expecting the same acceptance from elderly people. They will never accept, in any form. When you cannot change yourself, you cannot expect others to change.

    This note to you Chumber, is a last warning: If you indulge in activities (written or spoken) that point to making politics out of religion as well as combining it with secessionism, you will be taken to task.

    I know this note is muddled with diff things put together in one note. Since they are connected, am sure you know what they mean.

  282. C.L.CHUMBER said

    RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said,

    December 4, 2008 @ 3:31 pm

    YOU ARE A GROUP OF ABUSER ADOLESCENTS MENTALLY .YOU APPOLOGISE AND THEN START TO ABUSE . WHAT IS WRONG IN MR. CHUMBER ? WE MUST READ OUR SCRIPTURES AND BE THANKFUL TO HIM WHO CAUTIONED US .

  283. C.L.CHUMBER said

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 11:00 am

    THIS IS MY FULL WRITING SO THAT THE VIEWERS MAY KNOW IN DETAIL !
    ——–

    Nice article. In some places you have mixed disparate things together.

    Hope you understand that people may look for a common culture, and therefore may marry within the same grouping, for an life free from adjustment probs.

    However, hope you will realize that AFTER people come up to a certain stage in life, they do not marry for caste.

  284. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said

    mesquiteice said,

    December 6, 2008 @ 5:52 am

    Ram kishan sharm,

    First, dont talk bad about Mr. OBAMA. You are calling him a black so many times. Why are you behind his colour.

    Forget his colour. Start seeing him as a normal person. Dont refer to people as black and white. Everybody is one and the same.

    THEN YOU PEOPLE DO NOT WORSHIP THE CASTIEST BRAHMA AND VISHANU.
    MR. OBAMA`S MOTHER WAS WHITE BUT YOU OPPOSE THE INTER CASTE MARRIAGES . IF EVERYONE IS ONE AND THE SAME , THEN YOU START INTER CASTE MARRIAGES .

    I can make out that you are tring to play politics by creating enmity between indian people on the basis of gods(and their stories). If you really have any sense stop creating problems for others.

    INDIANS ARE DEVIDED IN THOUSANDS CASTES / TRIBES , RELIGIONS ALREADY . WE ARE CREATING GOOD WILL BY DENOUCING THE DEVILS .YOU ARE THE PROBLEM . AT A TIME YOU CLAIM TO BE A HINDU AND MUSLIM . YOU WROTE AGAINST HAZRAT MOHAMMAD .

    Mr. Obama never played politics based on colour nor is he against the white people. He never asked black people to hate white people.

    Whereas Chumber and You are trying to create hatered by not allowing people to be happy. You are creating insecurity by speaking like this.

    WE ARE NOT HATERS .WE ARE AGAINST THE HATERS WHO CREATED CASTE SYSTEM .

    If you dont want to be a hindu and find problems, dont be a hindu. Nobody cares.

    YOU CLAIMED TO BE A MUSLIM .

    President-elect Obama has released a statement on the Mumbai terror attacks:
    ” We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks,”

    If you want to be loved like obama preach love, Dont preach hateful ideologies against hindus and hindu faith.

    I AM PREACING LOVE . YOU ARE ABUSERS , HATERS AND UNCULTURED PERSONS . I CAN NOT LOVE THE HATEFUL IDEOLOGIES OF HINDU FAITH .

  285. C.L .CHUMBER said

    lavanyamuralidharan said,” HOW WILL CHUMBER FEEL IF WE CALL WALMIKI AS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ? ”

    TO WHOM ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI RAPED ?

    HE GAVE SHELTER TO SITA AND HER CHILDREN !

    WHICH WAS HIS ACTION OR WRITING CASTEIST ?

    WHICH WAS HIS ACTION OR WRITING FASCIST ?

    YOU PEOPLE ALSO WROTE ,” AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS .” BUT YOU PEOPLE DID NOT GAVE PROVES EVEN AFTER TWO MONTHS !

    THE HINDU GODS WHO ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED BY YOU PEOPLE .

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 7, 2008 @ 7:20 am

    Chumber is the biggest abuser of all. How will Chumber feel if we call Valmiki as rapist, racist and fascist ?

  286. C.L .CHUMBER said

    MY COMPLETE WRITING OUT OF WHICH MR. SANJAM QUOTED IS AS BELOW –

    TERROR OVER INDIA’S FINANCIAL CAPITAL MUMBAI!
    – C.L.CHUMBER

    On 26th November midnight , the financial capital of world’s most populated democratic country India faced a multiple blasts and gunfire in a dozen areas including the crowded Chhatarpati Shivaji Terminus railway station and two five-star hotels – Oberai and Taj. The situation was so tense and under no control that the government had to call in the Army to assist in defusing the situation. It is reported that more than 101 persons died and 250 injured.

    Mr. A. N. Roy, DGP Maharashtra said tonight’s attack in ” at least seven places” is a” terror strike.” Mr. Roy continued,” The suspected terrorists struck in a number of places. Terrorists have opened in discriminate firing with automatic weapons.” In Delhi , the union Home Ministry said it was keeping a close watch on the situation and would provide all necessary assistance to the state government. The firing is reported near BMC headquarter, Hilton Holtel in Nariman Point and Vile Parle. It is reported that two terrorists gunned down.

    An IPS officer Mr. Ashok Marutirao Kamte was killed while fighting terrorists at Metro Cinema in the city along with Mr. Vijay Salaskar an encounter specialist. Mr. Hemant Karkare, chief of the Anti-Terrorism Squad was also killed when he was leading an poeration at hotel Taj against terrorists. He was probing the Malegaon blast case. Mr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister condemned the terror attacks in Mumbai and assured all help.

    The Indian rulers have not strengthened the democracy in true sense. That is why the Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits took arms for the solution of their legitimate rights. Why are the rulers belonging to Congress at centre and the rulers belonging to SAD at Punjab committed to continue their dynastic rules in a democratic world?
    The Indians are living below poverty line. The rich are becoming richer and the poor are becoming poorer. Who is responsible? We condemn these terrorist attacks which is no solution for our problems in a democratic world. We appeal the NRIs to come to help their country fellows as the Gadhrites of USA and Baba Gurditt Singh Sarhali`s group in Canada in the early twenties of the 20th century.

    (Image: http://www.thestandard.com) Posted on Nobember 30, 2008 http://WWW.AMBEDKARTIMES.COM

  287. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you said : YOU PEOPLE ALSO WROTE ,” AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS .” BUT YOU PEOPLE DID NOT GAVE PROVES EVEN AFTER TWO MONTHS !

    That means that your father was not a Rap**t. and what they said is wrong.

    Similarly you did not give proof of all the abusive stories that you wrote about brahma and other Hindu gods so what you are saying is also wrong

  288. lavanyamuralidharan said

    lavanyamuralidharan said,” HOW WILL CHUMBER FEEL IF WE CALL WALMIKI AS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ? ”

    TO WHOM ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI RAPED ?

    HE GAVE SHELTER TO SITA AND HER CHILDREN !

    WHICH WAS HIS ACTION OR WRITING CASTEIST ?

    WHICH WAS HIS ACTION OR WRITING FASCIST ?

    THE HINDU GODS WHO ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED BY YOU PEOPLE .

    I can ask you the same thing: Who did the hindu gods rape? Just because some people wanted to cook up stories does not mean in reality there was any rape.

    —————————-

    YOU PEOPLE ALSO WROTE ,” AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS .” BUT YOU PEOPLE DID NOT GAVE PROVES EVEN AFTER TWO MONTHS !

    Sanjam said that, not me. Do not connect one person’s words to another person.

    And please do not talk about proof – you did not give proof yet about rape from manusmrithi which you repetedly lied about.

    You have not answered questions asked by me or Mesquiteice. You are loving your hate, and therefore so be it.

  289. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I can not say if you do not read your scriptures .It is established fact that the Indo-Aryan Vaidik Hindu Gods are rapists , racists and fascists !!!!!

  290. happyhindu said

    I can not say if you do not read your scriptures .It is established fact that the Indo-Aryan Vaidik Hindu Gods are rapists , racists and fascists !!!!!
    ———-

    You so called “established fact” has been created by anti-hindus.

    You Chumber misquoted the Padma Purana (yep i now have a copy of it, and there is no rape in it), the manusmrithi and spewed hate. Which idiot will believe you?

    You can fool poor people living in slums who cannot read and write, but after ppl get educated and more aware, you guys will get nothing but a trashing.

  291. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I WROTE THAT I HAD NOT WRITTEN ANYTHING ABOUT MR. M.K. GANDHI IN RESPONSE TO THE QUERY .YOU ARE DIVERTING THE ISSUES . YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB ETHICALLY .

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 11, 2008 @ 7:15 am

  292. happyhindu said

    I WROTE THAT I HAD NOT WRITTEN ANYTHING ABOUT MR. M.K. GANDHI IN RESPONSE TO THE QUERY .YOU ARE DIVERTING THE ISSUES . YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB ETHICALLY .
    ———-

    Chumber, you are the last person that shd be talking about ethics.

    You are the one that called Gandhi a scounderal and claimed that dalits are a seprate element (not hindus).

    You also said that if you guys were given seperate religion status, then you will not seek reservations. If that is your final stand, then i want you to write about it in your next issue of Ambedkar Times. Write with all details.

    It wud be interesting to see how the rest of the so-called self-appointed dalits react.

  293. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you said ” can not say if you do not read your scriptures .It is established fact that the Indo-Aryan Vaidik Hindu Gods are rapists , racists and fascists !!!!!”

    This is nothing but a figment of your own imagination, resulting out of your hatered of hindus. You cant say a word other that repeating your misplaced and misinterpreted stories.

    Nothing is establised unless proven. Dont hide yourself behind scriptures. That is cowardice.

    Prove it now!

  294. C.L .CHUMBER said

    IF YOU DO NOT RECOGNIZE HINDU SCRIPTURES IN WHICH HINDU GODS ARE ESTABLISHED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS , THEN YOU DENOUNCE THESE SCRIPTURES .

    LET US ARRANGE PRESS CONFERENCES AT DELHI , MUMBAI , CHENNAI AND KOLKATTA JOINTLY AND I WILL PROVE IT . YOU MAY BRING ANY SHANKRACHRYA !

  295. mesquiteice said

    You seem to be beating around the bush.

    can you clearly explain which hindu scripture establishes the falsehood that you state?.

    The most important scripture of HINDUISM is the scripture of LOVE. All interpretation of all hindu scriptures should be based on this.

    In any event people who spread hatered will never understand any scripture of any religion because all they want to do is to spread hatered between people.

    God is love and Gods have no relevance to people who spread hatered. You can only see god as another platform for expressing your hatered isnt it.

  296. C.L .CHUMBER said

    THE HINDUISM IS A RELIGION OF HATERED TOWARDS THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS AND WOMEN OF EVERY CASTE / VARNA !!!!!

    THERE IS NO LOVE IN HINDUISM . THERE IS ONLY LUST IN HINDUISM !!!!!

    THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM INVENTED BY BRAHMA AND CODIFIED BY MANU IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HATERED EVEN AMONG HINDUS THEMSELVES AND ALSO AGAINST NON-HINDUS !!!!!

    IN HINDUISM EVERY GOD IS RAPIST / RACIST / FASCIST !!!!!

    WHO HAVE MADE THE LIVES OF SCs, STs , OBCs AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES HELL ?

    WHO ARE AGAINST THE RESERVATION OF THESE CATEGORIES ?

    YOU START A NEW RELIGION TO PREACH LOVE !!!!!

  297. happyhind said

    IF YOU DO NOT RECOGNIZE HINDU SCRIPTURES IN WHICH HINDU GODS ARE ESTABLISHED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS , THEN YOU DENOUNCE THESE SCRIPTURES .

    LET US ARRANGE PRESS CONFERENCES AT DELHI , MUMBAI , CHENNAI AND KOLKATTA JOINTLY AND I WILL PROVE IT . YOU MAY BRING ANY SHANKRACHRYA !
    —————-

    First you show us which is the scripture that talks about rape.

    Do not bring some newspaper publication or magazine article or some quotations or books from dumbedkar political writers – bring the ACTUAL scripture – in sanskrit.

    if a translation in english is available then bring that…..

    post references here from the actual scripture that talks about rape – then talk..

  298. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WHERE DID I WROTE ABOUT GANDHI
    scoundrel ?

    C . L . CHUMBER said,

    September 29, 2008 @ 6:52 am

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN IS MATURED AND MANUWADI ETHICAL TERRORIST !!!!!

    C . L . CHUMBER said,

    September 29, 2008 @ 2:13 pm

    MR.HAPPY HINDUS ! A SINGLE DIVORSE CAN CHANGE THE GDP OF THAT FAMILY !!!!!

    C . L . CHUMBER said,

    September 29, 2008 @ 7:03 pm

    MANUWADI-ETHICAL MEANS WORST THAN UNETHICAL !!!!!

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  299. mesquiteice said

    THE HINDUISM IS A RELIGION OF HATERED TOWARDS THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS AND WOMEN OF EVERY CASTE / VARNA !!!!!

    Your empty statements are intended to solely spread hatered. In fact HINDUISM created not one but many great people, which no other religion has been able to do. Buddha/Mahavira/guru nanak/guru govind singh/Swami vivekananda/Swami Raghavendra/ Swami Valmiki/Ramanuja/Thiruvalluvar and the list goes on.

    The only person who openly talked bad about women in Dalitnation not HINDUISM. They said that people should marry women based on caste.

    The only reason that you are spreading hatered against hindus is that you want to cry for votes by creating enimity between brothers. The britishers followed the same policy of “Divide And Rule”. Now Hatemongers like dalitnation want to try your hand at it.

    THERE IS NO LOVE IN HINDUISM . THERE IS ONLY LUST IN HINDUISM !!!!!

    LUST is not in Hinduism. It exists in the minds of people. Lust is a nature of mind and not the heart. Lust will be there everywhere not only in hinduism.

    THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM INVENTED BY BRAHMA AND CODIFIED BY MANU IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HATERED EVEN AMONG HINDUS THEMSELVES AND ALSO AGAINST NON-HINDUS !!!!!

    You are the one behind caste. Even if everybody want to forget caste, you want to refer them only by caste. You are teh one asking for others caste adn abusing others based on their caste.

    You are searching for platforms for spreading hatered and enimity between indians. Caste is one of your favorite isnt it.

    IN HINDUISM EVERY GOD IS RAPIST / RACIST / FASCIST !!!!!

    In hinduism, gods are not persons, they are beliefs and faiths. They do not exist at a physical level. Even if they do hatemongers like you cant recognise them.

    WHO HAVE MADE THE LIVES OF SCs, STs , OBCs AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES HELL ?
    hatemongers like chumber.

    WHO ARE AGAINST THE RESERVATION OF THESE CATEGORIES ?

    When there is no category where is the reservation. We are one and there is no differance between us.

    YOU START A NEW RELIGION TO PREACH LOVE !!!!!

    I believe that in order to love, you should come out of all religions. Because, everytime you associate yourself with a perticular religion, we seem to become intolerant to other religions.

    Love is the only real thing. All religions are man made and are not real. They will die over a period of time.

    We will love each other as brothers and sisters so that we dont need religions to relate us.

  300. C.L .CHUMBER said

    YOUR GOOD SELF ARE SELLING ROTTEN EGGS !!!!!

  301. happyhindu said

    YOUR GOOD SELF ARE SELLING ROTTEN EGGS !!!!!
    ——————

    And what are you selling Chumber? Stories from missionaries?

  302. mesquiteice said

    LOVE unlike eggs do not rot. Rotting is a physical occurance.

    Love flows endlessly and can never rot

  303. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I NEVER WRITE , SELL OR DISCUSS STORIES !
    I REFERRED YOUR RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES WHICH ENDORSED THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !

    happyhindu said,

    December 22, 2008 @ 8:17 am

    YOUR GOOD SELF ARE SELLING ROTTEN EGGS !!!!!
    ——————

    And what are you selling Chumber? Stories from missionaries?

  304. mesquiteice said

    If it is not a story what is all that you are talking about Jalandhar etc. You are creating a charecter and weaving stories around him.

    Any thing that you talk about others and which cannot be proved is only STORIES.

    If you want to talk about your views, dont bring new charecters. Say what you have to say.

    If it is a fact then state it with proof

    You are simply talking about some grandma stories which are used by people for feeding children. Similarly you are giving you own touch to these stories and using it to preach hatered

  305. happyhindu said

    I NEVER WRITE , SELL OR DISCUSS STORIES !
    I REFERRED YOUR RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES WHICH ENDORSED THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !
    ————–

    Instead of alleging and barking so much, why don’t you just show which is the scripture that endorses rape ?

    Already told you, bring the exact scripture in sanskrit, write down the verse here which talks abt rape…then you talk…otherwise its best that you just buzz up.

    You do not want to accept there is no rape in hindu scriptures because then there will be nothing remaining for you to make politics out of. And a cheapskate bug like you actually demands respect, whata joke.

  306. C.L.CHUMBER said

    EVERY HINDU SCRIPTURE IS FULL OF MISDEEDS OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK GODS WHICH I REFERRED SO MANY TIMES IN THIS BLOG .

    THE MAD PEOPLE ALWAYS DEFEND THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND ABUSE THE OTHERS ALWAYS !!!!!

  307. happyhind said

    EVERY HINDU SCRIPTURE IS FULL OF MISDEEDS OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK GODS WHICH I REFERRED SO MANY TIMES IN THIS BLOG .

    THE MAD PEOPLE ALWAYS DEFEND THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND ABUSE THE OTHERS ALWAYS !!!!!
    —————————

    Dai Chubera,

    Idu paar:

    EVERY HINDU SCRIPTURE IS FULL OF MISDEEDS OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK GODS WHICH CHUMBER LIED SO MANY TIMES IN THIS BLOG .

    THE MAD PEOPLE ALWAYS ACCUSE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND LOVE THEMSELVES ALWAYS !!!!!

  308. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE MAD PEOPLE ALWAYS follow THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND LOVE THEMSELVES ALWAYS !!!!!

  309. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! PLEASE WRITE MY NAME WITH CORRECT SPELLINGS .
    HOW WILL YOUR GOOD SELF FEEL IF SOMEONE WRITE YOUR NAME IN A TAUNTING WAY ?
    IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT .IT IS FAULT OF YOUR FAMILY BACKGROUND AND CURRENTLY YOUR FRIENDSHIP CIRCLE .
    happyhind said,

    January 8, 2009 @ 3:23 pm
    Dai Chubera,

    Idu paar:

  310. hh said

    Chumber,

    Pointing out how your comments sound – so utterly stupid, mad-like, making no sense like the output of total idiocy, makes no difference to you. In your madness you will keep barking.

    Am only interested in this:: You said you filed a case. Give me the details of the case.

  311. C.L.CHUMBER said

    DEAR HAPPY HINDU !

    I WILL GIVE THE DETAILS OF MY CASE FILED IN THE PEOPLE`S PARLIAMENT , WHEN YOU REPLY —
    ” YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR LEGAL FIGHT .
    I WROTE THAT THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERED JUDGMENT ” IF ANY ONE CALL ANOTHER PERSON IDIOT , HE/SHE WILL BE PUT BEHIND BARS .” YOU INTENTIONALLY ABOUT THREE DOZEN TIMES IDIOT TO ME .DO YOU HAVE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ? ”

    hh said
    January 10, 2009 @ 2:03 am

    Chumber,
    Am only interested in this:: You said you filed a case. Give me the details of the case.

  312. hh said

    Chumber,

    Who are you to decide who is fit for what?

    I have faith in the judiciary. That is why I am asking you for details of the case.

    You yourself know your crimes. A word like Idiot is not enough for you. You will definitely be sent to a mental asylum.

    Just provide the details of the case.

  313. dilipmuralidaran said

    Chumber,

    Details of the case please. I need to call my legal council to prepare a case against you and ensure you are in a mental asylum.

  314. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I HAVE REPLIED TO MR. HAPPY HINDU BUT YOUR GOOD SELF DELETED .WHY /

  315. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    IF YOU HAVE FAITH IN JUDICIARY THEN WHY ARE YOU IGNORING / CHALLENGING THE SUPREME COURT `S JUDGMENT ON IDIOT CALLING OTHERS IDIOT DAILY .YOU ARE ESTABLISHED ANTI JUDICIARY . MORE OVER YOU ARE UNETHICAL PERSON .THE UNETHICAL PERSON IS A MOVING DEAD BODY .

    hh said
    January 21, 2009 @ 8:10 am

    Chumber,

    Who are you to decide who is fit for what?

    I have faith in the judiciary. That is why I am asking you for details of the case.

    You yourself know your crimes. A word like Idiot is not enough for you. You will definitely be sent to a mental asylum.

    Just provide the details of the case.

  316. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    I am being very decent with someone like you.

    If you want, ask someone to call you an idiot a 100 times in court. That is called peronal abuse.

    Go and ask a lawyer for the difference between personal abuse and what you are doing.

    You are not aware of the law and you are just rambling off in your madness.

    Your crimes are many. Most are provable. You can easily be jailed for atleast 2 charges. So, don’t just talk go on talking forever (that’s what you do for a living, we don’t).

    Just give details of the case.

  317. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    Exploiters masquerading as politicians should not be talking about ethics.

    You do not even know the difference between personal abuse and crime. But you talk about judiciary.

    What you are doing is crime (you can be easily jailed for atleast 2 charges easily provable). What we are doing is personal abuse to pressure you in.

    Come to court and shout.

    Now just give details of the case.

  318. C.L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE ASK YOUR ADVOCATE THE SENSE AND LEGAL VALUE OF THIS STATEMENT !!!!
    happyhind said
    January 23, 2009 @ 12:58 am

    Chumber,
    You do not even know the difference between personal abuse and crime. But you talk about judiciary.

  319. C.L.CHUMBER said

    ” YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR LEGAL FIGHT .
    I WROTE THAT THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERED JUDGMENT ” IF ANY ONE CALL ANOTHER PERSON IDIOT , HE/SHE WILL BE PUT BEHIND BARS .” YOU INTENTIONALLY ABOUT THREE DOZEN TIMES IDIOT TO ME .DO YOU HAVE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ? ”
    YOU PLEASE READ THE 4 VEDAS , 18 PURANAS , RAMAYNA , MAHABHARTA AND WILL FIND THE CHARACTERS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS .
    I HAD NOT HURTED SENTIMENTS OF THE HINDUS. I HAD EXPOSED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS WHO MADE OUR PEOPLE`S LIVES HELL . YOU PEOPLE SHOULD APPOLOGIZE FOR THIS FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
    I WILL CONTINUE MY TASK TO EXPOSE THE EVIL GODS AND GODDESSES SO MY COUNTRY MEN MAY BE MENTALLY FREE FROM THE EVIL GODS !!!!!

    happyhind said
    January 23, 2009 @ 12:58 am

    Chumber,

    Exploiters masquerading as politicians should not be talking about ethics.

    You do not even know the difference between personal abuse and crime. But you talk about judiciary.

    What you are doing is crime (you can be easily jailed for atleast 2 charges easily provable). What we are doing is personal abuse to pressure you in.

    Come to court and shout.

    Now just give details of the case

  320. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    I have faith in the judiciary….You are the one that does not.

    So just keep your big mouth closed and give only this:
    PAN number, Voter’s ID number, full name.

    A liar like you who lied about filing a case in some “people’s parliament” actually ask about judiciary…lol…whaddajoke…cya.

  321. hh said

    Chumber,

    You are just a liar and a madman, trying to get away with mere talking..

    Come to court and prove whatever you want to prove.

    Either you provide details of the case you filed or you give us your proof of identity so that others can file a case.

    So, provide your personal details, such as full name, PAN number, Voter’s ID number, residential address, names of all your family members and accept that you will not change any statement in court.

  322. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    YOUR GOOD SELF IS CREATING BIG NUISANCE IN THIS BLOG BY ABUSING AND BLAMING WITHOUT ANY FOUNDATIONS .
    NOW , YOU ARE ASKING THE NAMES FOR MY FAMILY MEMBERS .
    FOR WHAT PURPOSE ?
    OUR FAMILIES , FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORERS HAVE NO ROLE IN OUR E-DIALOGUE .
    I AM FULLY KNOWN THAT NOWADAYS YOUR GOOD SELF IS ” MR. DUKHI RAM ”
    AS YOUR REVERED GOD RAM WAS ” DUKHI ” BEING DEFEATED BY ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI IN DIALOGUE , DEFEATING PHYSICALLY BY SITA`S SONS LAV AND KUSH IN WAR , BAD PUBLIC OPINION ON THE MURDER OF INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK AND COMPELLING SITA TO COMMIT SUICIDE .( REFRENCE : VALMIKI RAMAYNA`S UTTRA KAND / CHAPTER .) .
    THEN RAM HIMSELF COMMITED SUICIDE WITH LAKSHMAN !!!!! PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW THE RAM`S SUICIDEL PATH IN DISTRESS ! BE BRAVE AND DARE TO ACCEPT FULL AND FINALLY THAT YOU ARE REJECTING OUTRIGHTLY THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCITS AS YOU DECLARED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM . PLEASE LEAVE THE FLICKERING MIND AND BE BOLD TO DYNAMITE THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM !!!!! W ARE WITH YOU !!!!!

    hh said
    January 30, 2009 @ 2:45 am

    Chumber,
    – –
    So, provide your personal details, such as full name, PAN number, Voter’s ID number, residential address, names of all your family members and accept that you will not change any statement in court.

  323. happyhind said

    So Chumber, You are such a sissy are you? So scared?

    Come to court and prove whatever you want to prove.

    Just keep your big mouth shut and provide your full name, PAN number, Voter’s ID number, residential address, full names of all your family members and accept that you will not change any statement in court.

    All of the above details are needed to establish proof of your identity in court, so that you do not get away by claiming it is not me. Since you are born to tell and live only on lies, you can very well do that.

    Moreover since it is easy to proove you are mad, if you say it was not me on the blog, the court has no reason not to accept it….so to nail you properly to get correct proof of identity, provide all the full names of all you family members and the rest of the details asked.

  324. happyhind said

    I wrote in detail in my monthly magazine in July , 1986 , the government banned that issue and even imposed TADA 3/4 and IPC 153-A but did not dare to arrest me . Mr. V.T. Rajshekar and myself were the two on whom TADA was imposed .
    ————-

    Chumber,

    Forget all other proofs of identity asked. Just Give your TADA file number.

  325. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I AM BORN TO DYNAMITE THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM AND THE IMAGES OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS !!!!!

    happyhind said
    February 2, 2009 @ 9:40 am

    Since you are born to tell and live only on lies, you can very well do that.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  326. hh said

    I AM BORN TO DYNAMITE THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM AND THE IMAGES OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS !!!!!
    ————-

    Lol…

    Just give your TADA case file number.

  327. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    WHO ARE YOU TO ASK FILE NUMBER OF TADA CASE ?
    ARE YOU ABOVE THE GOVERNMENT OR CONSTITUTION ? ?
    YOU CAN ASK FROM THE HOME MINISTRY , PUNJAB GOVERNMENT !

    happyhind said
    February 3, 2009 @ 8:40 am

    Chumber,

    Forget all other proofs of identity asked. Just Give your TADA file number.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  328. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF THE FREEDOM ADOPTED BY THE PRESENT ” SAWDESI ” RULERS . ? ? ? ? ?

    Recently, the Indian government recognized the Namdhari Movement and the Jallianwala Bagh martyrs as the parts of the National freedom movement on 27th January, 2009 . The both movements will be entitled for the Grants and freedom fighters honour scheme-1980 AD. Professor Malvinder Singh a prominent historian filed a public interest litigation petition in the Punjab & Haryana High Court, Chandigarh to declare these movements as part of the National freedom movement. Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia was awarded by Mrs. Indira Gandhi then Prime Minister of India as freedom fighter of the Gadhar Party, USA but he was never honoured as the founder of the social resurgent movement the Adi-Dharam Mandal Punjab. Why not the Indian government and state governments declare these social resurgent movements AS FREEDOM MOVEMENTS i.e. Adi-Dharam Mandal of North India , Adi-Dravida of Tamilnadu , Namo-Shudra of Bengal , Adi-Andhra of Andhra Pardesh , Adi-Karnatka of Karnatka , Mahar Movement of Maharashtra , Satya Shodak Samaj of Pune , Adi-Hindu Maha Sabha of U.P , Scheduled Castes Federation , Baba Ayyan Kali and Narayana Guru of Kerala`s movements , revered Periyar’s self respect and many more which fought against the Aryan imperialism’s Varna / caste system slavery . Our Indian constitution accepted these movements ` aims and objects but did not recognized as freedom movements! Why? What is the definition of the freedom adopted by the present “sawdesi rulers “????? The Indian citizens must dare to assert to theirs legitimate as well human rights to dynamite the manuwadi spirit forever to establish the Indian constitution drafted by under the chairmanship of revered Baba Sahib Dr. Ambedkar. This constitution was passed by the constituent assembly elected by the then India voters as well as Indian government! LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF EQUALITY, EQUITY, QUALITY, LIBERTY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO ALL!!!!!

  329. hh said

    Chumber,

    We have every right to ask your details as per the RTI because you are a self-appointed “statesman”. We stand for equality.

    Four economically-poor people are filing a case against you. Two are Hindus, One is a Christian and the other a Muslim. The fifth one filing a case against you is me. Other such as Dilip may additionally file cases as well.

    Cases are being prepared to file against You-Rajshekhar-Dalitnation on the following grounds:

    1) 5-295A: Deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs.

    2) 298: Uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings.
    [for promoting enemity between members of various religious communities,
    And for insulting hindu gods, vandalizing hindu scriptures and prohibitting the performance of hindu worship].

    3) 504: Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace:
    [for repeatedly insulting religious sentiments and tacit approval of use of violence].

    4) 501: Printing or engraving matter defaming hindu scriptures.

    5) 126: Committing depredation on territories of Power at peace with the Government of India:
    [For inciting divisions between Indians and Tibetans and playing with the emotions of the Tibetan Refugees in India].

    6) 153B: Imputations, assertions prejudicial to national integration:
    [For calling freedom fighters as communal people]

    7) 509: Word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman:
    [for wrongly quoting the Manusmirthi on rape with the intension to intice women of a particular community into politically prescribed forced marriages].

    8) 499: Defamation: of Nehru, Ravi Shankar, Dali Lama, Gandhi, Shankaracharaya, Swami Narayana and the Veershaivas community.

    9) 503: Criminal intimidation:
    [For threatening to make misuse of your SC status to file a case against me].

    10) Hurting the Freedom of Conscience and Freedom to freely practice religion.

    11) Appeal for TADA to be filed again based on Section 153-A: for writings and creative activities that promote disharmony or feelings of enmity, hatred or ill will between different religious, racial, language or regional groups, or castes or communities.

    12) Causing mental distress by preventing economic growth::
    [You are making politics out of religion and not helping the poor in anyway . You admitted eliminating poverty is not your priority].

    You have not answerd this so far:

    Manusmrithi / PadmaPuran:
    a) Where in the Manusmrithi / PadmaPuran there is any right to rape?
    b) Why did you propagate this idea without reading the original texts?
    c) Why did you specifically use this to target women of brahmin community ‘to remove them from varna’?

    Valmiki Ramayan:
    a) Where in the Ramayan has Valmiki spoken badly abour Ram?
    b) Where in Ramayan or anywhere did Valmiki speak about “dynamatizing the system’ and removing varna?

    Indian Constitution:
    a) Where in the constitution has the Indian government banned Vishnu and Hindu Gods?
    b) Where in the constitution does it say that Hindus cannot worship in their own way or follow their faith.

    Law:
    a) Who gave you the legal right to call our gods rapists, racists and fascists?
    b) Who gave you the legal right to make politics out of the Ramayan?
    c) Who gave you the right to interefere in anyone’s faith?

  330. hh said

    Any Indian can ask a lunatic who has self-appointed himself as a self-proclaimed statesman (lol) for details to file a case.

    Politicians are public servants. Every politician is answerable to the public when questioned.

    Maybe the police understood that you are mad, and therefore did not waste time on you with any arrest.

    But obviously your lunacy has pushed you to stretch your luck too far. This time you will not be spared.

    Four Indian citizens are filing a case against you.

    If you are not a coward, give your TADA case file number or personal proof of identity.

    Come to court and prove about your “good self” and other people as ‘bad self” and whatever other nonsense you want to prove.

    Do not expect respect. You are a criminal and you will be treated as one.

  331. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    WHAT CAN AN HABITUAL ABUSER GIVE RESPECT TO OTHERS ?
    WHAT CAN A WORSHIPER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS GIVE RESPECT TO OTHERS ? ?
    WHAT CAN A BOASTER OF CLAIMING AGAINST RAPE-ISM AS WELL AS WORSHIPING RAPISTS GIVE RESPECT TO OTHERS ? ? ?
    WHAT IS THE ETHICAL AND LEGAL VALUE OF THE RESPECT OF SUCH A PERSON WHO HIMSELF IS NOT A RESPECTABLE PERSON ? ? ? ?
    WE ARE NOT IN NEED OF RESPECT FROM THOSE PERSONS WHO DO NOT HONOUR EVEN SUPREME COURT`S JUDGMENT ON ” IDIOT ” CALLING ?????
    hh said
    February 8, 2009 @ 6:34 am
    Do not expect respect. You are a criminal and you will be treated as one.

  332. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    I HAVE ALREADY REPLIED BUT YOU DID NOT NOTICED AS YOU ARE ALWAYS BUSY IN ABUSING AND BLAMING GAME TO MAKE OTHER HINDUS HAPPY !!!!!
    YOUR GODS RAPED YOUR COMMUNITIES LADIES AND YOU ARE AGAINST YOUR BRAHMIN LADIES BUT I AM IN THEIRS SUPPORT !!!!!
    BE ASHAMED OF YOUR DIRTY TACTICS !!!!!

    C.L.CHUMBER said
    January 27, 2009 @ 3:24 am

    3.8 Sex
    The Authors of the Hindu scriptures never considered sex as a taboo “For the twice-born men, at first, a woman of the same Caste is approved for marrying; but those who act from lust, lower Castes women may be in order (aswives). A Shudra woman alone is the wife of the Shudra; but she and a woman of his own Caste are legally wives of a Vaishya; they two (Shudra and Vaishya) and also woman of his own Caste are wives of a Kashatriya; these three (Kashatriya, Vaishya and Shudra) women and a woman of his own Caste are the wives of the Brahman.”36
    http://www.ambedkartimes.com/dsnuk.htm#e
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/narendra-modi-and-the-fall-of-hindutva/#comment-4764

    hh said
    February 5, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

    Chumber,
    You have not answerd this so far:

    Manusmrithi / PadmaPuran:
    a) Where in the Manusmrithi / PadmaPuran there is any right to rape?
    b) Why did you propagate this idea without reading the original texts?
    c) Why did you specifically use this to target women of brahmin community ‘to remove them from varna’?

  333. hh said

    Chumber,

    Just give your proof of personal identity. Give you PAN and Voter Card numbers, your full name, residential address and names of all your family members. Come to court and prove anything you want to prove.

  334. C. l . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    1.WHERE THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION PERMITTED TO WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY A RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ?
    2.I NEVER OBJECTED YOUR WAY OF WORSHIPING IN YOUR OWN WAY OR FOLLOW THE FAITH ?
    3. I OBJECTED ONLY THE WORSHIPING OF RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !
    4. IT IS FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION THAT I OBJECTED ON BHAI GURDAS BALADS IN WHICH HE WROTE ADI MAH BHAGWAN VALMIKI AS DACOIT AND HE WROTE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST LADIES OF CHUHRA CASTE LADIES . THE AKALI GOVERNMENT HAD TO BAN THEIR OWN SCRIPTURE TO WHICH THEY CLAIM IT WAS THE KEY OF GURU GRANTH SAHEB !

    hh said
    February 5, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

    Chumber,
    Indian Constitution:
    a) Where in the constitution has the Indian government banned Vishnu and Hindu Gods?
    b) Where in the constitution does it say that Hindus cannot worship in their own way or follow their faith.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  335. C. l . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    1.THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION GAVE ME FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO EXPRESS MY VIEWS BY WRITING & SPEAKING ! YOUR SCRIPTURES CONFIRM YOUR GODS AS RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS AND I AM JUST WRITING ON THE BASIS OF THESE SCRIPTURES .
    2.WHERE DID I MADE POLITICS ON RAMAYNA .YOU ASK MR. L.K. ADVANI WHO IS MAKING POLITICS OUT OF THE RAMAYNA !
    3.I AM NOT INTERFERING IN YOUR FAITH .BUT YOU HAVE BLIND FAITH IN THE EVIL GODS . PLEASE BELIEVE IN FAITH NOT IN BLIND FAITH .

    hh said
    February 5, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

    Chumber,

    Chumber,
    Law:
    a) Who gave you the legal right to call our gods rapists, racists and fascists?
    b) Who gave you the legal right to make politics out of the Ramayan?
    c) Who gave you the right to interefere in anyone’s faith?
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-4807

  336. hh said

    If you are so confident about the indian constitution and your fundamental rights, then come to court and prove it.

    Provide your personal proof of identity. And confirm that you will not change or withdraw any comment made by you in court.

  337. C . L . CHUMBER said

    IF YOU WILL SHOW YOUR IDENTITY IN THE COURT , I WILL ALSO DO THE SAME !

  338. C . L . CHUMBER said

    In the introduction of the book ‘ Women of Pride : the Devadasi heritage ‘ written by Mrs.Lashmi Vishwanathanwe read ,” The devadasi was the proverbial dancing girl of India . Her name immediately suggests the two words she inhabited – those of Gods and of slaves .She served Gods ( deva ) , and men who assumed godly status , as a slave ( dasi ) , and considered it an honour in doing so .The persona of the God changed over time . First , he was the allpowerful Supreme Being ,worshiped in the temple . Later , he was the ‘ king’ who was attended by elaborate ceremony . Gradually , the king too became God , and demanded divine rights . The devdasi shifted throughthe vicissitudes of temple , court and social life , unfaltering in her trained steps ! ”
    The worthy writer dared to establish ,” In vedic times Pumschali was the courtsean who became a gandharvagrihita – one possessed by a gandharva , or a celestial spirit .She danced and served holy men known as rishis . She also served Kings , being an expert in a plethora of royal rituals . MYTHOLOGY TRACES HER ORIGIN TO THE HEAVENLY NYMPH , THE DANCING APASARA , WHO WAS CREATED BY LORD BRAHMA …! ” THE WRITER CLAIMED THAT APASARA MENAKA SEDUCED THE SAGE VISHVAMITRA AND URVASI WAS THE FIRST DEVDASI OR ‘ SLAVE OF THE GODS ‘ WHO DANCED TO WELL COME RAMA AND SITA , BACK IN THE AYODHYA AFTER THEIR EXILE !( PAGE 6) .THERE IS A CHAPTER ‘ MARRIED TO THE GOD , SLAVES OF MEN ‘.
    I AM SORRY THAT I COULD NOT FULFILL MY PROMISE TO VISIT VARINDAVAN / MATHURA TO DO FIELD STUDY ON WIDOWS TO WHOME THE PANDAS EXPLOIT SEXUALLY . IN FUTURE , I WILL VISIT . THANKS AGAIN .
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/devadasis-were-degraded-buddhist-nuns/

  339. C . L . CHUMBER said

    NOW , I COME TO THE POINTS THAT I WILL WRITE ON DAY TO DAY POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS AS OUR SWEET COUNTRY IS BEING READY TO GO FOR A DECISIVE PARLIAMENTARY ( LOK SABHA ) ELECTION TO BE HELD IN APRIL / MAY , 2009 .

    RESPECTED ADMINISTRATOR(S ) AND ESTEEMED VIEWERS !
    As I said ,” And the current day to day developments in any field is more relevant to discuss to solve our day to day problems and near future planning .” .https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/mayavathi-as-pm-the-change-has-arrived/#comment-4953.Our administrators also tried theirs best to present us the current topics but the discussion was mainly concentrated on Indian ancient period which was also necessary TO know the bent of mind of ruling manuwadi society and theirs religious torch bearers IN PAST AND AT PRESENT . There is a proverb ‘ WHEN THE OLD COCK CROWS , THE YOUNG COCK LEARNS ‘ which means all living creatures learn from the society . But if we worship and project the evils then how we can expect an ethical and law-binding society .
    Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram once said ,” We are not concerned with what manuwadis did in past with our forefathers but we will not spare anyone who do not allow to enjoy our constitutional and human rights at present .” He in an interview to the then number one weekly of India ” the Illustrated Weekly of India ‘ said ,” QUESTION : Politicians we spoke to in Delhi say that if the BSP gets too belligerent they will finish you politically.KANSHI RAM : WE WILL FINISH THEM .BECAUSE IF INDIRA CAN BE FINISHED BY A CHAMAR, ARE THESE FELLOWS GOING TO BE SAVED? WHEN WE ARE 90 PERCENT IN THE ARMED FORCES, 70 PER CENT IN THE BSF, 50 PER CENT IN THE CRPF AND THE POLICE, WHO CAN DO INJUSTICE TO US? A GENERAL NEEDS LESS BULLETS COMPARED TO JAWANS .THEY MAY HAVE GENERALS BUT NO JAWANS.QUESTION: Are you advocating an eye for an eye? KANSHI RAM : TWO EYES .I tell my followers Ek Eet Ka Jawab, Do Pathron Se ( you must retaliate for one brick with two stones ) , otherwise you are not my followers .QUESTION: So you are propagating violence.KANSHI RAM: I am propagating strength. To curb violence, I must have strength .”
    To curb violence in society the Britishers gave us : !.Democratic system equal for all . 2.Judicial system equal for all .3.Constitutional system based on equality , liberty , fraternity and justice to all .4.English language which is a bridge between all Indian elites as well as the non-Indian world .Once Mr.V.T. Rajshekar ,editor . The Dalit Voice fortnightly rightly wrote ,” English is the passport of knowledge.” 5.The railway and communication system which created unity in Indians .
    After Independence from the Britishers our governments tried to maintain this system but the old thinking of ruling society created hurdles by mafia and money . But it is true that the masses are taking part in the voting very actively even at the cost of theirs lives . The latest election held in our esteemed state J & K is the proof . We salute the voters of J & k state .
    Now, I come to the point that I will write on day to day political developments as our sweet country is being ready to go for a decisive parliamentary ( Lok Sabha ) election expected to be held in April / May , 2009 .I feel sorry from the administrators and viewers that I mainly concentrated on the evil Gods RATHER ON THE TOPICS .I beg pardon for this and wish to clear that I have no ill will against any caste , creed , religion and area except evils and evil persons ! Our Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass advised us that evil was evil .He said that the alcohol is injurious to health as well as society even distilled from the water of the holy Ganga river ! He also advised that ‘ Mann changa taan kathauti which Ganga ‘ means if our mind is pure then even the Ganga runs in the earthen pot where a shoe-maker dips leather ! Our Adi-Mahaguru Kabir also said that He had a pious transparent mind like pious transparent the Ganga ( now the Ganga is polluted by the latrines and urine etc.of its followers ! ) and even the God recited ‘ Kabir ,Kabir ‘ ! Let us dynamite the caste / varna system to strengthen our democracy for which India is known worldwide !
    I do hope that we will participate day to day political developments in a cordial way ! Thanks to all .

  340. C . L CHUMBER said

    WE SHOULD COME OUT OF THE WELLS OF REGIONS / CASTES AND SWIM IN THE PONDS , RIVERS AND SEAS !!!!!

    In a suspected case of honour killing , Suman devi ( 20 ), a Gujjar girl of village Pandori Beet in Garhshankar sub-division ( Hoshiarpur ) in Punjab , was murdered with sharpedged weapons and her lover , Mr. Ashok Kumar( 24 ) , a Rajput of nearby Kot village , was seriously injured .Mr. Ashok was refered to PGI , Chandigarh . But now he improved and referred to Civil Hospital , Hoshiarpur .No arrest has been so far .
    The centre government and the Punjab government announced Rs. 50,000 grant to the inter-caste married couples by equal sharing but the governments and society could not create amicable environment .We appreciate Heer-Ranjha ,Sassi-Punnu , Sohani-Mahiwal , Laila-Majhanu but can not bear the existence of contemporary lovers ! Why ? Do we not wish to dynamite the varna / caste system created by the manuwadis by inter- caste marriages as well as inter -varna marriages or part and parcel of this filthy system ?
    One thing is clear that no power in the world can stop to die this filthy caste system as the well educated youths of all castes / varnas hate this system and when we WILL celebrate the centenary of the Adi-dharam Mandal in 1926 AD , atl east inter-caste marriages among scheduled castes will be a routine work ! As our Baba Saheb Dr. Ambedkar appealed his followers to dynamite the Vedas which had the first ever evidence of caste / varna system .At least , we can arrange inter-state / inter-regions marriages between the residents of Majha , Doaba and Malwa regions within our own castes ! We should come out of the wells of regions / castes and swim in the ponds , rivers and seas ! We pay obeisance to our daughter late Miss ( ? ) Suman Devi and share grieves with Mr. Ashok Kumar , a widower before marriage .

  341. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Please refer to my previous writing dated 26th instant ” In a suspected case of honour killing , Suman Devi ( 20 ), a Gujjars girl of village Pandori Beet in Garhshankar sub-division ( Hoshiarpur ) , was murdered with sharp edged weapons and her lover , Mr. Ashok Kumar( 24 ) , a Rajput of nearby Kot village , was seriously injured .Mr. Ashok was refered to PGI Chandigarh . But now he improved and refered to Civil Hospital, Hoshiarpur .No arrest has been so far. ”
    Now the Punjabi Tribune daily published a news that the lover Mr. Ashok Kumar not the relatives of Suman Devi killed her as she refused to marry with him . Her marriage was fixed with another boy on 28th February , 2009 . The police got 2 days police remand of Mr. Ashok Kumar from the court . There is a Punjabi song ” Piar the kahani loko kithey aa ke ruk gayi . Haasiyaan ton shuru ho ke , hanjuaan te mukk gayi ” means ” Look the people at the stoppage of a love story which started with smiles and ended in tears ! “

  342. aniket said

    It is such a pity to see that instead of trying to find ways of uplifting the downtrodden,people are busy expressing their cheap, derogating and downright outrageous views about Brahmins. How can someone even conceive the idea that a pure man like Dr. Ambedkar would have wanted his followers to marry brahmin girls just to curb the progeny of the brahmin community?It is an insult to his teachings and work, not to mention an indication of the quality of character of the man who thought this was what Dr.Ambedkar meant.
    Try to imagine an India minus the political,literary,economic and technological contribution of the brahmin community. It is imperative on all of us to realize that brahmins are indeed an indispensable asset of the fabric of our country. The vice of caste based discrimination that breeds in the minds of a few needs to be dealt with.Brahmins are the most educated,active and progressive community in the country today. Brahmin women are as far from being opressed as you are from your true cause of helping the deprived.What is your motto? Try and avenge the injustice done on your forefathers 3000 years ago by the cheapest mode you can think of(like selectively trying to marry brahmin girls) and not let the society live in peace and harmony OR try and work out schemes to move India towards a society where an individual is judged on the basis of his merit and not any other parameter?
    If brahmin girls are opressed, why do almost all of them marry within their caste?I’ll tell you why. Brahmins look better, think better and live better.Live with that. Nobody is trying to suppress you today. And it is in your best interest your disgustingly cheap thinking and develop a broader outlook.

  343. C . L . CHUMBER said

    aniket said
    March 21, 2009 @ 12:48 pm
    It is such a pity to see that instead of trying to find ways of uplifting the downtrodden,people are busy expressing their cheap, derogating and downright outrageous views about Brahmins.
    MY ANSWER IS : We are not any caste / varna / religion which is not pro-manuwad and pro-Indian constitution .The Brahmins as community are still against the non-Brahmins due their manuwadi bent of mind ! That is why the Indian Constitution can not still implemented and the caste / varna system is still prevalent .Did Brahmins as community ever started any movement to anihilate the caste / varna system ?
    ( 2 ) How can someone even conceive the idea that a pure man like Dr. Ambedkar would have wanted his followers to marry brahmin girls just to curb the progeny of the brahmin community ?It is an insult to his teachings and work, not to mention an indication of the quality of character of the man who thought this was what Dr.Ambedkar meant.
    MY ANSWER IS : You declared Dr. Ambedkar as ” a pure man ” and other hand you sided with manuwadi Brahmins ! Actually , you have a flickering mind !India government and state governments are encouraging intercaste marriages with Rs. twenty five thousands from the centre plus stste grant ! What have you problem in the intercaste marriages ?
    ( 3 )Try to imagine an India minus the political,literary,economic and technological contribution of the brahmin community. It is imperative on all of us to realize that brahmins are indeed an indispensable asset of the fabric of our country.
    MY ANSWER IS :How many Brahmins did discoveries and inventions except varna / caste system and worshiping rapist , racist and fascist Gods ? The Brahmins must realize as community that they must be an asset of Indian costututional fabric of our country instead of manuwadi system .They should denounce the varna system , evil Gods and claim of their superiority than non-Brahmins in thier own interest !
    ( 4 ) The vice of caste based discrimination that breeds in the minds of a few needs to be dealt with.Brahmins are the most educated,active and progressive community in the country today.
    MY ANSWER IS : The Brahmin community is deadly against the Indian Constitution .That is why they passed their own constitution in the DHARAM SANSAD ! A well educated and progressive person / community can not worship the castiest Brahma , Vishanu and their fascist , rapist and racist incarnations !
    ( Five ) Brahmin women are as far from being opressed as you are from your true cause of helping the deprived.What is your motto? Try and avenge the injustice done on your forefathers 3000 years ago by the cheapest mode you can think of(like selectively trying to marry brahmin girls) and not let the society live in peace and harmony OR try and work out schemes to move India towards a society where an individual is judged on the basis of his merit and not any other parameter?
    MY ANSWER IS : Our forefathers were pro women and almost all the Gods of Brahmins deserted even their wives ! The Gods of Brahmins raped the women which is evident from the Hindu scriptures ! We are torent class even at the cost of our slavery .The Sikhs killed Mrs. Indira Gandhi who ordered the Blue Star Operation at the Golden Temple premises and they also killed Mr. Vaidya head of the Army in Pune. But we did nothing violently and you blame us false ! In India merit is not judged ! If merit is judged , then Brahma , Vishanu and their incarnations had been banned who were anti merit ! The Brahmin word is anti merit ! Please research the origin of the Brahmin word and the Brahmin world !!!!!
    ( SIX ) If brahmin girls are opressed, why do almost all of them marry within their caste? I’ll tell you why. Brahmins look better, think better and live better.
    MY ANSWER IS : The followers of the RAPIST GODS can not look better , live better and think better .Who bloody fool created the Dev Dasi like filthy system for women !
    ( 7 ) Live with that. Nobody is trying to suppress you today. And it is in your best interest your disgustingly cheap thinking and develop a broader outlook.
    MY ANSWER IS : Can you live with your enemies ? The Manuwadi system did not allow Babu Jagjivan Ram to be PM of India having two third majority in the parliament and the President of India dissolved the Lok Sabha on the recommendation of a nominated PM on the day of proving majority ! The Brahmins washed the statue of Dr. Sampurna Nand with the dirty water of the Ganga river which was inagurated by Babu ji !The Brahmins oppose the constitutional reservation becuase they are anti constitution and pro Manusimrity ! The pro Manusimirty people can not have a broader look !

  344. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Dear Viewers ,
    Please read these lines below

    MY ANSWER IS : We are not any caste / varna / religion which is not pro-manuwad and pro-Indian constitution .

    AS
    MY ANSWER IS : We are not AGAINST any caste / varna / religion which is not pro-manuwad and ARE pro-Indian constitution .

  345. hh said

    Chumber,

    You have started repeating your tape-recorder answers again.

    You saw the case of Varun Gandhi. Do not play fool.

    People like you should be thrown into the jail. Dealing with upturned dog tails like you will never work. Kutte ki dum tedi ki tedi.

    I am certain I can get you a maximum jail term for inciting hatered and hurting religious sentiments.

    Just provide your Voter’s ID and PAN number or TADA case file number. Do not play fool and try to escape. Come to court, chepio.

  346. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Satguru Kabir preached that a dog is better than a Brahmin ( manuwadi ) .

  347. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE DOG AND ELEPHANT ARE THE MOST FAITHFUL ANIMALS IN THE WORLD !!!!!

    I AM PROUD TO BE CALLED ME AS A BARKING DOG !!!!!

    THE DOG ALWAYS BARKS AT SUSPICIOUS PERSONS !!!!!

    I AM BARKING AT THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS !!!!!

    IS MY BARKING UNETHICAL , ILLOGICAL OR ILLEGAL ? ? ? ? ?

    YOU WROTE ,” EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER .”

    I AM BARKING BUT YOU ARE NOT ACCOMPANYING ME .

    YOU CALL ME EVERY TIME MAD .I THINK YOUR GOOD SELF IS YET TO BE AN
    IDEAL MAN !!!!!

    hh said
    March 26, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
    Chumber,

    Dealing with upturned dog tails like you will never work. Kutte ki dum tedi ki tedi.

  348. hh said

    THE DOG AND ELEPHANT ARE THE MOST FAITHFUL ANIMALS IN THE WORLD !!!!!

    I AM PROUD TO BE CALLED ME AS A BARKING DOG !!!!!

    THE DOG ALWAYS BARKS AT SUSPICIOUS PERSONS !!!!!

    I AM BARKING AT THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS !!!!!

    IS MY BARKING UNETHICAL , ILLOGICAL OR ILLEGAL ? ? ? ? ?

    YOU WROTE ,” EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER .”

    I AM BARKING BUT YOU ARE NOT ACCOMPANYING ME .

    YOU CALL ME EVERY TIME MAD .I THINK YOUR GOOD SELF IS YET TO BE AN
    IDEAL MAN !!!!!
    —————————-

    Chumber,

    Thanks for accepting you are a dog.

    Thanks for inviting. I cannot join you because I keep away from rabid dogs. They try to bite and kill everyone before they die. They are not faithful because they are mad.

  349. A Brahmin said

    “Satguru Kabir preached that a dog is better than a Brahmin ( manuwadi ) .”

    Moron Chumber,
    If you want people not to speak ill about your caste, you better not dare to utter such filth about others. And once again, you are talking about manusmruti, dev dasi and other such things that were in establishment 3000 years in the past! Try to see what is in the present. Nobody except you is worried about their caste. If you hold on to your caste so tightly, how can it ever be abolished? If you want the caste system to fade away, stop issuance of caste certificates and segregating the society officially on the lines of caste! Stop any and every special treatment given to any caste what – so – ever and let all be gauged only on the basis of their merit. Today those who are oppressed are so because of their economic status! extend help to the poor, regardless of their caste.

    “Did Brahmins as community ever started any movement to anihilate the caste / varna system ?”

    I’m sorry, but did you not read your history text books properly? Raja Ram Mohan Roy was a brahmin! He was the father of the Indian Renaissance! Besides there are more number of brahmins working for the dalits than dalits themselves even today!

    “India government and state governments are encouraging intercaste marriages with Rs. twenty five thousands from the centre plus stste grant ! What have you problem in the intercaste marriages ?”

    Why the desparation to marry brahmins and be a part of our circles when you claim you so very hate us!I don’t have any problem with inter caste marriages. If there is mutual consent then nobody has the right to stop the marriage. I just feel disgusted that you people want to marry brahmins so that you can “pollute the varna of the brahmins” and not because you like someone. its just extremely cheap and pathetic.

    “How many Brahmins did discoveries and inventions except varna / caste system and worshiping rapist , racist and fascist Gods ?”

    Do you even know how many nobel laurets of india are brahmins? Do you even know that the proportion of brahmins in almost all research institutes is way greater than that of any other section of the society? Make a list of scientists from india and see for yourself that an overwhelming majority of them are brahmins. And note we don’t have reservations! We have have earned those positions solely on the basis of our caliber. We don’t want to steal morsels from the mouths of others to fill our stomach(steal seats from deserving candidates)! The poor brahmins do not get any help from the govt and are left for dead. But they don’t ask for reservation because reservations are anti democracy. Most of the great leaders of our country, Lal Bahadur shastri, Lokmanya tilak, Pt. Nehru,etc etc etc were brahmins. and if you so very hate everything in the hindu system, why don’t you denounce hinduism? You won’t do that because you want free stuff from the govt. nothing else.

    once again i urge you to realise for your own good that you are becoming your own enemy!We are far from being your enemies. Rather than focusing your energy towards hating brahmins, use it to help the downtrodden( and those include poor brahmins as well)

  350. C.L.CHUMBER said

    IF YOU CALL ME MORON , MAD AND IDIOT , I WILL RETALIATE PERFECTLY !!!!!

    A Brahmin said
    April 2, 2009 @ 5:59 am

    “Satguru Kabir preached that a dog is better than a Brahmin ( manuwadi ) .”

    Moron Chumber,

  351. Abrahma said

    Wow…some funny discussion out here! Why the hell should anyone even care if Ambedkar ji married a chitpavan! It was his choice…why draw unnecessary conclusions from it!
    Cl Chumber ji seems pretty much in a brahman bashing mood here. For some reason Fascism/ Rapist etc etc are being uttered a bit too frequently here, whereas even according to manusmriti a brahman is a person who is supposed to be beyond these very concepts. And Chumber ji, when you call brahmin fascists etc, the way you have been going about your brahman bashing leaves no difference between you and your perception of brahmins.There doesn’t seem to be any difference between you and a brahman if looked at from your viewpoint. You have been making some baseless allegations about a certain class of people without quoting actual proofs for what you say! You don’t even seem to understand the concept of brahma vishnu and mahesh. There are female gods in the hindu pantheon(i dont think they are rapists..are they?). You have absolutely no clue about what varna system is. Simply put, it is just a way of classifying people based on karma.To simply say in todays scenario…what would you call Dawood Ibrahim- who is on a killing spree…..a pawn of dawood- who kills on order ….A soldier fighting on the border- protecting us from the attackers….Mukesh Ambani- who earns money whatever Dawood or the soldier does…….
    The answer is simple The soldier would be a kshatriya and Ambani a vaishya who actually is only bothered about his money and dawoods pawn is a kshudra, who has no clue why he kills people.Dawood is a mlenchha …he deserves to be an outcast unless he does some really big redeeming act…the varna system allows for that…you know valmiki! Now for dawood to redeem himself, he needs someone who can truly change him inside out…that task can be achieved only by a brahman not because of any rigid structure, but because the brahman is the only person who can see through dawood, understand his misery, take that as personal misery, make him realise his misery and hence successfully work on it.Any preson who can achieve such tasks would qualify as a brahmin, regardless of what he/she is by birth.That I believe is a pretty practical way of classifying people.

    Occassional incorrect interpretations of vedic manuscripts/ absolute ignorance about the concepts of veda-shruti-smruti by the western scholars is pretty well established. The vaidic philosophy was so beyond them that they interpreted it in extremely unusual ways tending to idiotic on occasions.The worst part is the extreme political influence over the text books (based on western interpretations), increasing hatred for a brilliantly developed language like saunskrut are ruining things further.

    Chumber ji…if you have any misconception about brahmin girls being treated badly or as filth at home, please clean your mind from such thoughts. The environment in brahmin houses is pretty much free and girls are not married off to settle business deals as in many vaishya households (take many aggarwals for instance). There is particularly a high number of chitpawans marrying out of caste and even out of religion since the last two generations. No one objects there, though the girls end up facing brahman bashing similar to what you are doing right now and realise they committed the biggest mistake of their life having done that!

  352. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THERE IS NO NEW TO WHICH I HAVE TO REPLY AS HE / SHE IS ALSO IN DEFENCE OF MANUWAD !!!!!
    Abrahma said
    April 4, 2009 @ 7:20 pm

  353. Abrahma said

    “THERE IS NO NEW TO WHICH I HAVE TO REPLY AS HE / SHE IS ALSO IN DEFENCE OF MANUWAD !!!!!”

    What is Manuwad……give a decent, logical and perceptible answer without using that same old fascist/ rapist etc etc comments. We have heard too much of that…how about a better and more reasonable debate on the issue?

  354. A Brahmin said

    you are yet to answer to my post… you moron….

  355. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. RAM VILAS PASVAN , PRESIDENT , THE LOK JAN SHAKTI PARTY RELEASED HIS PARTY`S ELECTION MANIFESTO FOR THE LOK SABHA ELECTION 2009 AD IN WHICH HE PROMISED TO BAN THE RSS AND ITS OFF SHOOTS !!!!!

    MR. PASVAN PLAYED AN HISTORICAL ROLE IN IMPLEMENTING THE MANDAL COMMISSION REPORT IN JOBS FOR OBCs UNDER THE PRIME MINISTERSHIP OF REVERED LATE MR. V.P. SINGH PM OF INDIA !!!!! THE CUNNING BRAHMINS USED THE OBCs AGAINST THE SC RESERVATION BUT THE INTELLIGENT SC LEADERSHIP TWISTED THE GAME AND WON TO MARCH FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF EGALITARIAN SOCIETY !!!!!
    IN PUNJAB , THE DOORDARSHAN , JALANDHAR PLAYED A FOUL GAME WHEN IT TELECASTED THE NEWS THAT THE GOVERNMENT ENHANCED 25% RESERVATION ( IN PUNJAB 25% RESERVATION FOR SCs ) TO 27 % .THIS NEWS CONFUSED THE PUNJABIS ABOUT THE MANDAL COMMISSION REPORT AND THE OBCs PARTICIPATED IN THE ANTI-MANDAL MOVEMENT ! BEING A VIGILANT CITIZEN , I RELEASED THE LIST OF 84 OBCs OF PUNJAB STATE WHICH WOULD BE BENEFITED .THIS LIST PUBLISHED ON THE FRONT PAGES AND THE SC ORGANISATIONS PUBLISHED HAND BILLS ALSO .
    MY ONE BRAHMIN FRIEND ASKED ME THAT WHY THE DALITS ARE LEADING THE PRO MANDAL COMMISSION REPORT MOVEMENT . I REPLIED ,” WE DALITS ARE HUMANISTS AND CONSTITUTIONAL PEOPLE AND WISH TO IMPLEMENT THE EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE ! ”
    THE OBCs ARE BACKBONE OF THE MANUWAD .THAT IS WHY THEY ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST THE MANUWAD RELIGIOUSLY AND SOCIALLY !!!!! IF THEY DO NOT MEND THEIR WAYS , THEY WILL BE REALLY BACKWARD IN THE ENLIGHTENED WORLD !!!!!
    WE APPRECIATE MR. PASVAN AND HIS PARTY FOR THEIR STAND ON RSS AND HOPE THAT ONE DAY A PARTY WILL DECLARE IN ITS MANIFESTO TO BAN ON THE HINDUISM OF THE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!

  356. C . L . CHUMBER said

    A BRAHMA TRIED HIS BEST TO RAPE HER DAUGHTER FIVE TIMES BUT THE SHIV JI BEHEADED HIM FOR HIS HEINOUS CRIME !!!!!
    NOW A PERSON CLAIMED TO BE A BRAHMA AND BRAHMIN BORN FROM BRAHMA`S FILTHY MIND / HEAD !!!!!

    A PERSON HAVE TWO FICTITIOUS NAMES BECAUSE OF HIS / HER CHICKEN HEARTED MIND !!!!!

    I WILL give a decent, logical and perceptible answer TO a decent, logical and perceptible PERSON NOT TO THE BIGGEST EVER MORON !!!!!

    Abrahma said
    April 13, 2009 @ 4:17 pm
    What is Manuwad……give a decent, logical and perceptible answer without using that same old fascist/ rapist etc etc comments. We have heard too much of that…how about a better and more reasonable debate on the issue?

    AND

    A Brahmin said
    April 14, 2009 @ 7:43 am

    you are yet to answer to my post… you moron….

  357. A Brahmin said

    Just admit it!. you don’t have an argument to my post. what i have said is absolutely right and since you know you know you can’t beat my argument you are running away from it! you are not just a blabbering moron but a coward as well.

  358. C . L . CHUMBER said

    CONGRESS DID NOT DO JUSTICE TO AMBEDKAR ! – MR. ADVANI .

    MR. L.K. ADVANI OF BJP ALLEGED THAT THE CONGRESS DID NOT DONE JUSTICE TO DR. AMBEDKAR .HE BLAMED THAT MR. NEHRU IGNORED HIM BY NOT NOMINATING TO THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY .THE CONGRESS REFUTED MR. ADVANI .
    MR. ADVANI`S PARTY FAVORS CONGRESS STALWART SARDAR VALLABH BHAI PATEL AS AN IRON MAN . THE SAME MR. PATEL OPPOSED DR. AMBEDKAR`S ENTRY IN THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY .BUT BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA OF PUNJAB AND DR. JOGINDER NATH MANDAL OF BENGAL MANAGED TO ELECT DR. AMBEDKAT FROM KHULNA SEAT NOW IN BANGLA DESH .DR. AMBEDKAR HAD TO RESIGN THAT SEAT DUE TO ITS AREA `S ALLOCATION TO THE THEN EAST PAKISTAN .THEN A CONGRESS LEADER DR. M.R. JAYAKAR RESIGNED FROM HIS POONA SEAT AND DR. AMBEDKAR WAS GOT RE-ELECTED TO THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY .
    IT WAS THE RULING CONGRESS PARTY WHICH NOMINATED DR. AMBEDKAR AS THE CHAIRMAN , THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY AND FIRST EVER LAW MINISTER OF INDEPENDENT INDIA. AT THE SAME TIME ANOTHER DALIT LEADER OF BENGAL DR. JOGINDER NATH MANDAL WAS NOMINATED THE FIRST EVER LAW MINISTER OF PAKISTAN !!!!!
    BUT DR. AMBEDKAR WAS NOT INDEPENDENT TO DRAFT THE CONSTITUTION AS THE BUDDHISTS , JAINS AND SIKHS ARE RECODES AS HINDUS !!!!! HE WAS NOT SUCCEEDED IN PASSING THE HINDU CODE BILL DUE TO THE OPPOSITION OF THE RSS AND PASSIVENESS OF MR. NEHRU WHICH RESULTED IN BABA SAHEB`S RESIGNATION FROM THE CABINET !!!!!
    THIS WAS THE POLITICAL SITUATION . BABA SAHEB WAS FED UP WITH THE MANUWADI SOCIETY AND EMBRACED THE BUDDHISM TO COUNTER THE BRAHMINISM .HE ASKED HIS FOLLOWERS ON 14TH OCTOBER , 1956 TODISCARD THE BRAHMA , VISHANU , MAHESH , GAURI AND GANPATI / GANESH !!!!! BUT MR. ADVANI`S BJP PROMISED TO BUILD A BIG RAM TEMPLE . KING RAM WAS THE SAME PERSON WHO KILLED A PIOUS AND INNOCENT SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK .HE ALSO BANNISHED HIS WIFE SITA .MR. ADVANI AND HIS RSS AND ITS OFFSHOOTS ARE WORSHIPING THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCITS AS GODS .OVER ALL THE MANUWADI HINDU SOCIETY STILL NOT DOING JUSTICE TO THE DALITS .
    MR. ADVANI AS A HOME MINISTER OF INDIA WAS RESPOSIBLE FOR THE ABDUCTION OF SAHEB KANSHI RAM JI WHICH RESULTED IN HIS DEATH . IF THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DO THE BRAIN MAPPING OF M/S VAJPAYEE , ADVANI , M.M. JOSHI , MAYAWATI AND SATISH MISHRA , THE CONSPIRACY OF KILLING SAHEB KANSHI RAM A BIGGEST EVER DEMOCRAT OF THE WORLD WILL BE SURFACED AUTOMATICALLY .

  359. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I WILL NOT REPLY TO A PERSON WHO HAVE NO NAME AND ETHICS !!!!!
    A THIEF DO NOT DISCLOSE HIS / HER IDENTITY !!!!!

    A CULTURED PERSON DO NOT CALL OTHERS AS MORON AND COWARD !!!!!

    EVEN A BASTARD HAS SOME GOOD MANNERS HOW TO RESPECT EACH OTHERS HAVING DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS !!!!!

    IF YOU WANT MY VIEWS , YOU MUST HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR DEROGATORY REMARKS !!!!!

    A Brahmin said
    April 15, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

    Just admit it!. you don’t have an argument to my post. what i have said is absolutely right and since you know you know you can’t beat my argument you are running away from it! you are not just a blabbering moron but a coward as well.

  360. C . L . CHUMBER said

    NOW BJP`S PRIME MINISTERIAL CANDIDATE MR. ADVANI FACED THE THROWN SLIPPER !!!!!

    A former Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) office-bearer Thursday created a sensation by throwing a wooden slipper at senior party leader L.K. Advani when the latter was going up on stage to address a public meeting in Madhya Pradesh.

    The man, identified as Pawas Agarwal, threw a ‘khadaun’ or slipper made of wood at Advani, saying he was ‘a fake iron man’ and did not deserve to be the BJP’s prime ministerial aspirant. The incident took place in Katni district, 350 km from here.

    The slipper missed Advani, but he became the latest victim of a series of ‘shoe-throwing’ incidents in the country. A former Katni district president of the BJP, Agarwal was taken into custody by police.

    He said the BJP should project some other leader as its prime ministerial candidate.

    Agarwal told mediapersons that Advani was ‘nakli Lauh Purush’ (a fake iron man). ‘He has no ideology. On the one hand he asks for votes in the name of Ram and on the other hand pays obeisance to (Pakistan founder Mohammed Ali) Jinnah,’ he said.

    On why he did not raise the issue at a party platform, Agarwal said: ‘None of the party leaders had the courage to communicate these feelings because they too were not allowed to speak.’

    Rival Congress was quick to react. Party general secretary Arvind Malviya said in Bhopal: ‘It was the result of the BJP’s double speak and its intention to exploit public sentiments in the name of religion.’

    Earlier this month, Home Minister P. Chidambaram and then Congress MP Naveen Jindal were also targeted by people who wanted to express their anger by throwing footwear at these politicians.

    COURTSEY :http://in.elections.yahoo.com/articles.html?feed=http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090416/818/tnl-now-slipper-thrown-at-advani.html

    • Sukra Charya said

      “..The man, identified as Pawas Agarwal, threw a ‘khadaun’ or slipper made of wood at Advani…”.

      It does not take much courage to throw a shoe at a old, defenceless man. Mr.Advani as a refugee from erstwhile Pakistan has faced much bigger challenges. So I am sure Mr.Advani can take that and more. His stature does not suffer and is in no way reduced.

      Will someone ask Pawas Agarwal, if he has courage to throw the same shoe at a terrorist. Yes, the same terrorist who held Asoka Hotel. Will Pawas will have the courage to take a gun and stand at the border?

      People like Mr.Agarwal are only aware of their own entitlements. Never the sacrifices of others which makes the entitlements possible.

  361. hh said

    Abrahmin,

    The guy is not just a moron. He is a lunatic on the loose prowl. So forget getting any descent answers from him.

    The police also did not bother about him since he is mad. He does not want to come to court because of his TADA background. He knows very well he will be sent to a mental hospital if he opens his mouth in court like this.

    He says he is standing for lok sabha elections (lol 😀 ), so now you now on what platform he wants to get votes.

  362. hh said

    Abrahmin,

    The guy is not just a moron. He is a lunatic on the loose prowl. So forget getting any descent answers from him.

    The police also did not bother about him since he is mad. He does not want to come to court because of his TADA background. He knows very well he will be sent to a mental hospital if he opens his mouth in court like this.

    He says he is standing for lok sabha elections (lol 😀 ), so now you know on what platform he wants to get votes.

  363. C . L . CHUMBER said

    A PERSON WHO WORSHIP RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS MUST BE TREATED AS THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST CHEMICALLY .

    BEWARE OF LIKE THIS MORON / LUNATIC / MAD PERSONS WHO HAVE NO ETHICS !!!!!

    GOVERNMENT SHOULD ARREST LIKE THESE UNETHICAL AND ILLEGAL PERSONS AND PUT BEHIND THE BARS !!!!!

    hh said
    April 18, 2009 @ 6:05 am

    Abrahmin,

    The guy is not just a moron. He is a lunatic on the loose prowl. So forget getting any descent answers from him.

  364. A brahmin said

    HH,
    Seriously dude! this chumber fellow is out of his F@#$ing mind!!!”Rapist Racist Facist”,””Rapist Racist Facist”,thats all he can say. And he conveniently skipped facing my argument! He knows now he can’t break through my comment. U know what the problem with this man and his likes is….. they just want everything… they don’t want to prove themselves and win it. They are just scared shitless even thinking of the idea of competing on a fair plane with us! that is why they want reservations everywhere. First in education, they want to become doctors and engineers when they have 40%on their marksheets! Then after getting education crushing the truly deserving students, they don’t stop there, they want reservations and different pay scales and promotion scales in govt jobs. And now they want reservations in the private sector as well! don’t they have a spine? Don’t they have any self respect?I mean if i were to be pushed into some institute or a job that i knew i didn’t deserve, i would have died of shame thinking i ruined the life of someone far more deserving than me. I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself! And here people go out on streets ,pelt stones,burn shops and buses to get more and more reservation! This chumber fellow talks about constitution and constitutionalism, where does this sense of adhering to the constitution go when such violent outbursts happen? and one question to be answered is whether or not the constitution and the government is responsible to protect the interests of the brahmins and all other upper castes? are we not citizens of this country? so what if brahmins are over represented in educational institutes? Those brahmin students have not tortured anyone to get those seats. they have slogged day and night to deservedly get admission on the basis of their merit. So why don’t these reserved class people use all the energy they expend in spreading hatred, to study instead! then they won’t require reservation!

    • hh said

      Abrahmins,

      Forget it. They are beggers. Let them keep reservations. Youngsters from other communities shall come up without reservations but pool resources, to show what they can be.

      And yes, that chumber fellow is from the gutter. So, ofcourse he will shout and rave and rant like a rabid lunatic dog roaming the streets infecting everyone with rabies. The poor guy wants votes.

  365. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS NOT AT ALL DESERVE TO BE A RESPECTFUL COMMUNITY AS IT WORSHIP UNETHICAL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS SINCE THOUSAND YEARS !!!!!

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS A PARASITE ON INDIAN ECONOMY !!!!!

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY CREATED AND NOURISHED A GRADED AND DEGRADED SOCIETY TO EXPLOIT !!!!!

    NEVER ANY BRAHMIN PROTESTED AGAINST THIS FILTHY SYSTEM AND STARTED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST IT !!!!!

    ” A BRAHMIN ” HAVING A FILTHY MANUWADI MIND CAN NOT TALK OF MERIT BECAUSE HE DO NOT DARE TO DISCLOSE HIS LEGAL NAME AND BEING A PRO-MANUWAD TALK AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION .!!!!!

    A brahmin said
    April 21, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
    I mean if i were to be pushed into some institute or a job that i knew i didn’t deserve, i would have died of shame thinking i ruined the life of someone far more deserving than me.

  366. C . L . CHUMBER said

    IF THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION , WE WILL BE COMPELLED TO DEMAND TO DECLARE IT UN-CONSTITUTIONAL AND CRIMINAL COMMUNITY !!!!!

    hh said
    April 24, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

    Abrahmins,

    Forget it. They are beggers. Let them keep reservations.

    MY ANSWER IS : THE RESERVATION FOR SCs / STs / OBCs / PHYSICAL HANDICAPEDS / PLAYERS / WARDS OF THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND IT IS NOT INJUSTICE TO ANY CITIZEN !!!!!

    DUE TO THE MANUWADI BENT OF MIND M/S HAPPY HINDUS ARE AGAINST THESE CATEGORIES AND HENCE AGAINST THE RESERVATION !!!!!

    THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT DISMISS THE BRAHMINS IN JOBS EXCEEDING THEIR POPULATION PERCENTAGE !!!!!

    THE PERSONS WHO OPPOSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION MUST BE PUT BEHIND BARS AS THIS IS THE WAR AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND THE COUNTRY !!!!!

    THE PARLIAMENT SHOULD PASS 54% RESERVATION INSTEAD OF 27% TO THE OBCs AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL MANDAL COMMISSION REPORT !!!!!

    IF THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION , WE WILL BE COMPELLED TO DEMAND TO DECLARE IT UN-CONSTITUTIONAL AND CRIMINAL COMMUNITY !!!!!

    ( 2 ) Youngsters from other communities shall come up without reservations but pool resources, to show what they can be.

    MY ANSWER IS : THE SCs / STs / OBCs YOUNGSTERS ARE COMPETETING WITH THE OTHERS EVEN FACING THE ODD CONDITIONS !!!!!

    IN MARCH 2009 , I ATTENDED THE MARRIAGE OF A SC YOUTH IN RAJKOT ( GUJARAT ) WHO IS M.A. , B.ED. HIS BROTHER IS MASTER IN ENGINEERING AND THEIR SISTER IS ALSO M.A. THEY RESIDE IN A VILLAGE ABOUT 80 KILOMETERS AWAY FROM THE RAJKOT DISTRICT HEAD QUARTER .THEY ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE LABOURER PARENTS BUT HAVING MERIT TALENT .THE BOTH BROTHERS ARE NOT GOVERNMENT SERVANTS .
    BUT THE MAUWADI M/S HAPPY HINDUD NEVER APPRECIATE THESE PARENTS AND THEIR SHINING CHILDREN !!!!!
    I WENT THERE WITH MY WIFE , SON AND A PROMINENT PUNJABI SINGER TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND THE ENTIRE SOCIETY OF THAT AREA .WE NEVER MET BEFORE THIS .WE REACHED THEIR VILLAGE AT 10.00 P.M.
    WE ARE MARCHING TOWARDS THE RED FORT TO UNFURL THE NATIONAL FLAG AT THE RED FORT . THEN OUR YOUNGSTERS WILL NOT TOLERATE TO CALL THEIR C.L.CHUMBER LIKE ELDERS MAD , IDIOT , MORON ETC .THEY WILL CHOP OFF THE HEADS OF THE ABUSIVE M/S HAPPY HINDUS AND WILL HANG ON THE RED FORT !!!!!

    ( 3 ) And yes, that chumber fellow is from the gutter.

    MY ANSWER IS : SATGURU KABIR PROCLAIMED THAT IF THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY CLAIM TO BE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS , THEY MUST BORN THE OTHER WAY THAN THE NON-BRAHMINS .
    WE WILL FLUSH OUT YOUR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GUTTER GODS !!!!!

    ( 4 ) So, of course he will shout and rave and rant like a rabid lunatic dog
    roaming the streets infecting everyone with rabies. The poor guy wants votes.

    MY ANSWER IS : THE RATIONAL REVOLUTIONARY THINKER SAINT KABIR WAS SO MUCH FED UP WITH THE IRRATIONAL AND COUNTER REVOLUTIONARY BRAHMIN COMMUNITY THAT HE HAD TO PROCLAIM THAT A DOG IS BETTER THAN THE ( MANUWADI ) DOG !!!!!

    • hh said

      THEN OUR YOUNGSTERS WILL NOT TOLERATE TO CALL THEIR C.L.CHUMBER LIKE ELDERS MAD , IDIOT , MORON ETC .THEY WILL CHOP OFF THE HEADS OF THE ABUSIVE M/S HAPPY HINDUS AND WILL HANG ON THE RED FORT !!!!!
      ————

      Youngsters are fed up of abusive politcians like you who abuse faith and poverty to get votes. Nobody is treating you like an elderly person. You talk like a lunatic moron and you will be treated as one. If you are so bothered about your image, go and file a case.

      Everybody is encouraging economically poor people in every way. But men like you are parasites and will never see that or understand that. Instead you manipulate the poor people for votes.

      You seem to like violence very much. Take care.

  367. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said

    I endorse fully the views of Mr. Chumber regarding the Brahmin community who are not rational still in the 21st century .

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    April 24, 2009 @ 10:36 am

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS NOT AT ALL DESERVE TO BE A RESPECTFUL COMMUNITY AS IT WORSHIP UNETHICAL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS SINCE THOUSAND YEARS !!!!!

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS A PARASITE ON INDIAN ECONOMY !!!!!

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY CREATED AND NOURISHED A GRADED AND DEGRADED SOCIETY TO EXPLOIT !!!!!

    NEVER ANY BRAHMIN PROTESTED AGAINST THIS FILTHY SYSTEM AND STARTED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST IT !!!!!

    ” A BRAHMIN ” HAVING A FILTHY MANUWADI MIND CAN NOT TALK OF MERIT BECAUSE HE DO NOT DARE TO DISCLOSE HIS LEGAL NAME AND BEING A PRO-MANUWAD TALK AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION .!!!!!

    A brahmin said
    April 21, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
    I mean if i were to be pushed into some institute or a job that i knew i didn’t deserve, i would have died of shame thinking i ruined the life of someone far more deserving than me.

    • Sukra Charya said

      “..NEVER ANY BRAHMIN PROTESTED AGAINST THIS FILTHY SYSTEM AND STARTED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST IT ..”.

      Yes, this is a good community to attack. They are too small and easily cowed down by goondas and thugs.

      But Chumber, whether they protest against it or not, it does not matter. Because you do not listen to them, anyway. Look at yourself. You haven’t answered any request for evidence.

  368. A Brahmin said

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    April 24, 2009 @ 10:36 am

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS NOT AT ALL DESERVE TO BE A RESPECTFUL COMMUNITY AS IT WORSHIP UNETHICAL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS SINCE THOUSAND YEARS !!!!!

    Ans: Dude!!! again the same F$&@ing thing! rapist racist facist! You know at your heart that your argument is baseless! any rational man knows that one cant blame today’s generation for things that happened 4000 years in the past. and well, even you worshiped those gods for thousands of years. If you hate everything about hindu gods, why don’t you start a new religion and leave hinduism? you won’t do that because you want to beg for special rights so that you can get things you don’t deserve!

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS A PARASITE ON INDIAN ECONOMY !!!!!

    Ans:??????????????????????????????????????????
    Justify your statement! don’t just spit out any filth that comes to your dirty mouth. As far as I know, chanakya, who was a brahmin gave the world “arthashastra”. Modern business schools all over the world use his work even today. 7 out of shivaji maharaj’s 8 ministers were brahmins and they advised him on economics and revenue. and we know that economic reform happened during maratha rule. Even today most of the economic thinkers and advisors in india are brahmins. and india is doing pretty good in the global market today… isn’t it? you are really naive in making such a statement!

    NEVER ANY BRAHMIN PROTESTED AGAINST THIS FILTHY SYSTEM AND STARTED ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST IT !!!!!

    Ans:see for yourself in this list contribution of brahmins to social reform
    Some Social Reformers in India include:

    * Swami Sahajanand Saraswati (brahmin)
    * Shahu Maharaj
    * Mahatma Jyotirao Phule
    * Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar
    * Tukojirao Holkar II
    * Gopal Ganesh Agarkar (brahmin)
    * Dhondo Keshav Karve (brahmin)
    * Vitthal Ramji Shinde
    * Justice Ranade (brahmin)
    * Swami Dayanand Saraswati (brahmin)
    * Ramakrishna Paramhansa (brahmin)
    * Swami Vivekanand (brahmin)
    * Virchand_Gandhi
    * Vinoba Bhave (brahmin)
    * Baba Amte (brahmin)
    * Raja Ram Mohan Roy (brahmin)
    * Balshastri Jambhekar (brahmin)
    * Gopal Hari Deshmukh
    * Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar (brahmin)
    * Pandurang Shastri Athavale (brahmin)
    13 out of 20 are brahmins!!!!!!! and you still baselessly crapped that statement out of your disgusting mouth.

    ” A BRAHMIN ” HAVING A FILTHY MANUWADI MIND CAN NOT TALK OF MERIT BECAUSE HE DO NOT DARE TO DISCLOSE HIS LEGAL NAME AND BEING A PRO-MANUWAD TALK AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION .!!!!!

    Ans: now, if some one doesn’t disclose his identity, how does that make him unworthy of talking about merit???? are you on crack? do the two things have absolutely anything to do with each other? My name is Aniket Sudhakar Paranjpe. so what did you achieve by getting to know my name???? does that change the fact that reservation is killing merit in India? does it change the fact that it helps morons like you with 40% on their marksheets to become doctors and then kill people by giving wrong medicines as they did not have the caliber to become a doctor in the first place?
    and about the manuwad thing…… what the hell dude!!!! what manuwadi and what anti constitution you are talking about??? Dr ambedkar wanted reservation for only 10 years. but you filthy minded greedy good for nothing bastards did not respect his wish! instead you want 50%reservation and reservation in private sectors…. admit it you are afraid of competing with us on a fair plane…. you know you will be nowhere if you don’t have reservations to push you up. you can never score as much as upper castes do. We want equality more than you do…. but your hatred for upper castes is the hinderance to it.

    there are many more points you have left unaswered from my previous post. may be because your brain is incapable of finding answers to it….

    • hh said

      there are many more points you have left unaswered from my previous post. may be because your brain is incapable of finding answers to it….
      ————————————

      A brahmin,

      No idea how long you have been around here. But am just letting you know that the chumber chap is really a lunatic TADA case that cannot stand the word ‘brahmin’ and will rant like a mad man running across the street tearing his clothes, shouting in caps.

      And yep that chap has no brain, former khalisthan case now full khaali-sthan case – so forget getting decent answers. But the chap tours different places preaching his hate ideology, manipulating the poor, abusing faith and poverty for votes. That’s the prob.

  369. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I AM A NON VIOLENT AND WORSHIP THE NON-VIOLENT GODS !!!!!

    YOU M/S HAPPY HINDUS WORSHIP THE FASCIST GODS !!!!!

    YOUR KRISHAN ALLURED ARJUNA TO BE READY FOR WAR TO KILL EVEN HIS BLOOD RELATIVES !!!!!

    YOU M/S HAPPY HINDUS WORSHIP A BIGGEST EVER TERRORIST GOD PARSHURAM WHOSE FOLLOWERS KILLED THE KASHATTRIYA MEN AND RAPED THEIR LADIES 21 GENERATIONS !!!!! YOU NEVER CONDEMNED !

    M/S HAPPY HINDUS ! You seem to like violence very much. Take care.

    hh said
    May 3, 2009 @ 4:51 am
    You seem to like violence very much. Take care.

  370. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THIS IS A ONE OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLES OF THE VAIDIK MANUWADI ABUSIVE E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

    WHEN THERE IS NO ARGUEMENT , THE SHORT TEMPERED PEOPLE ABUSE OTHERS TO BE GENUINE !!!!!

    *Ans: Dude!!! again the same F$&@ing thing!
    * don’t just spit out any filth that comes to your dirty mouth.
    *are you on crack?
    *does it change the fact that it helps morons like you
    *with 40% on their marksheets to become doctors and then kill people by giving wrong medicines as they did not have the caliber to become a doctor in the first place?
    *what the hell dude!!!!
    *but you filthy minded greedy good for nothing bastards

    A Brahmin said
    May 2, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

  371. C . L . CHUMBER said

    How many so called Brahmin social reformers discarded the rapist , racist and fascist Hindu Gods as Baba Saheb Dr. Ambedkar discarded them on 14th October , 1956 at Nagpur ? ? ? ? ?

    A Brahmin said
    May 2, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
    Ans:see for yourself in this list contribution of brahmins to social reform
    Some Social Reformers in India include:

    * Swami Sahajanand Saraswati (brahmin)
    * Shahu Maharaj
    * Mahatma Jyotirao Phule
    * Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar
    * Tukojirao Holkar II
    * Gopal Ganesh Agarkar (brahmin)
    * Dhondo Keshav Karve (brahmin)
    * Vitthal Ramji Shinde
    * Justice Ranade (brahmin)
    * Swami Dayanand Saraswati (brahmin)
    * Ramakrishna Paramhansa (brahmin)
    * Swami Vivekanand (brahmin)
    * Virchand_Gandhi
    * Vinoba Bhave (brahmin)
    * Baba Amte (brahmin)
    * Raja Ram Mohan Roy (brahmin)
    * Balshastri Jambhekar (brahmin)
    * Gopal Hari Deshmukh
    * Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar (brahmin)
    * Pandurang Shastri Athavale (brahmin)
    13 out of 20 are brahmins!!!!!!! and you still baselessly crapped that statement out of your disgusting mouth.

    • Sukra Charya said

      “How many so called Brahmin social reformers discarded…”.

      Chumber,
      Why should ANYONE discard ANYTHING, simply because of YOUR demand?

      The persons have EARNED their fame, possibly because of their beliefs. What has your belief got to give?

  372. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE WATCH / REWATCH THE FOLLOWING POINTS AND SEND VIEWS TO MAKE THESE POINTS MORE PERFECT !!!!!

    C,L.CHUMBER said
    May 30, 2008 @ 7:51 pm

    LET US DISCARD RAPIST,RACIST AND FACIST GODS !!!!!

    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr./Mrs./Miss Sunil has wrote,” dont waste urs time.forget everything about past sstudy,workhard to bring our nation on top. a nation cant progress until its all people are prospered.” Good.
    We are also of the same opinion subject to the following conditions:-
    ( 1 ) Brahmin community must appolosige in publice from the aboriginal Indians for their misdeeds in past..
    ( 2) Brahmins must appolosige for the misdeeds of their rapist,racist and facist so called Gods.

    (3) Brahmin community must appolosige from women community for their as well as their Gods`missdeeds.
    (4) Brahmins must discard the rapis,racist and facist Gods.
    (5) Brahmins must burn the Vedas and smirities which recognise Varna system and caste system.
    (6)The property aquired by manuwadi system must be nationalised or equally distributed among the sufferers of the system..
    (7) There must be ban on Brahmin,Kshattry and Vaish terminology .
    ( The govt./semi-govt. posts must be reserved for non-creamy layer Indian citizens having present reservation. . (9) The pvt. sector posts must be reserved for inter-caste married persons,
    ( 10 ) The panch to the rashtarpati post also be reserved for the inter-caste married persons or atleast one of their spouse must be inter-caste married.
    ( !1 ) The Indian govt. must ban awards on Arjuna,Daronacharya and Chankya..
    (12) The govt. must ban on Hinduism which is anti-constitutional spirit.
    ( 13) The govt. must recognise Buddhism,Sikhism and Jainism as separete religions.
    ( 14 ) The govt. must recognise the Adi-dharam ,aboriginal Indians`religion as in the census of 1931 AD when 5 lacs people claimed to be the Adi-dharamis.
    ( 15 ) The religion bar for reservation must be scrapped as every religion have caste.The Sikhs and Buddhists have admitted.
    The other conditions may also be discussed if the Brahmins declare to surrender to the democratic norms and the Indian constitutional spirit
    publically as the brahmins of Japan did.Thanks.

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/brahmins-destroyed-the-dravidian-indus-valley-civilization/

  373. C . L . CHUMBER said

    We hate and struggle hard to change this socio-religious system of the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods .

    Dear Viewers ,
    When M/s Happy Hindus do not have any arguements , they start the abusive dialogue to demoralize others but in vain .This confirms that the modern vaidik Aryans have no civilized manners even they boasting of being merit persons . This is their merit .
    They are in love with the rapist , racist and fascist Gods . In Mumbai and in Ajnala ( Amritsar ) in Punjab Hindu girls approached the police / courts that their fathers raped them every night since long period . The press highlighted their sorrows . This is due to worshiping rapist Brahma , Vishanu , Indidra etc. Hindu Gods !
    My no arguement is baseless . I belive in science`s questionare ‘ when , where , why , how , what , who ‘ .
    Yet , i do not claim to be perfect . But these people never condemn the rapist , racist and fascist Gods due to their manuwadi minds ,No civilized society or a person likes the rapist , racist and fascist Gods . We must hate these evil Gods and their evil followers .

    A Brahmin said quite right ,” any rational man knows that one cant blame today’s generation for things that happened 4000 years in the past .” But if the today`s generation worship , highlight and defend the persons who were rapists , racists and fascists then they have to be blamed and ‘awarded ‘ suitably . A rational man can not claim to be ‘ A Brahmin ‘. The Brahmin community `s history is anti-rational and anti-national.They can kill even Swami Daya Nand Saraswati and Mr. M.K. Gandhi to save the manuwad !

    Mr.’ A Brahmin ‘ again asked a right question ,” If you hate everything about hindu gods, why don’t you start a new religion and leave hinduism ? ” I am to say that I do not hate the Hindu Gods or their followers but I hate the rapists , racists and fascists Gods and their followers . We aboriginal Indians are not Hindus , we are the slaves of the Vaidik Hindu Aryans ! Our Adi-Bhagwan valmiki proclaimed that the mother and motherland is always better than the heaven but the forigner Ayans captured our land and mothers . Their manuwadi king of Ayodya Rama ( who was not the son of Dashrath but his mother wad made pregnant by rishi Sharingi who was son of the daughter of Dashrath . For details , please watch my writings in the https://dalitnation.wordpress.com ! ) killed a pious and innocent saint Shambuk as Aurangzeb killed Guru Tegh Bahadur !
    In the medeaval period , Adi-guru Namdev proclaimed that the Hinduism is a blind faith . Adi-guru Ravidas proclaimed that the Hindu Gods were lustful . Adi-guru Kabir proclaimed that we are not endorsing what the Pandits / Brahmina and Muslim Mullahs said and we condem them both ! He challenged the Brahmin community that if they claim to be superior to others then they might had born another way ! He condemned the Hindu Gods .He even proclaimed that the Hindu God Ram is his father-in -law and who worship him would go to hell !!!!!

    In modern period , the aboriginal Indians started Adi-Dharam Mandal , Adi-Hindu Maha Sabha ( To-day is birth day of Swami Achhuta Nand its founder .Please read my article in the http:ambedkartimes.com ) in north India , Namo-Shudra in Bengal eastern India , Adi-Dravida , Adi-Andhra , Adi-Karnatka ,Vaikom movement in south India and Mahar movement , Satya Shodak Samaj in western India which revolted against the Hindu rapist , racist and fascist Gods and their religion .
    The Adi-Dharam Mandal founded on 11-12 , June , 1926 by USA returned Gadhrite Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia declared that they are neither hindus nor Hindus are among them ! for details please visit http://ambedkartimes.com . I am the person who first ever published the souvenir on Baba Muggowalia on his 99th birth anniversary in January 19985 and released the specil issue of my journal on Baba Muggowalia`s birth centenary on 14th January , 1986 .

    IN 1931 CENSUS ADI-DHARAM WAS REGISTERED AS A SEPARATE RELIGION AND 5 MILLIONS CLAIMED TO BE FOLLOWERS OF THE ADI-DHARAM .

    During the Round Table Conferences at London (1930-1932 AD ) , Dr. Ambedkar and Rao Bahadur Srinivasin claimed that the dalits are not Hindus but manuwadi Mr. M.K. Gandhi opposed their claim . Dr. Ambedkar and Mr. Srinivasin succeded in the Communal Award declared on 18th August , 1932 that the dalits are a separate element .

    Mr. A Brahmin ( fictitious name ) blamed ,” you won’t do that because you want to beg for special rights so that you can get things you don’t deserve! ” I wrote in details above that we are not Hindus . We are not beggers . We are labourers and artisans . The Brahmin community is a parasite on Indian society which even collect tax at Hardwar , Varanasi , Gaya , Pehowa , Allahabad etc. whenever a person want to emerse the remains of a dead relative ! They exploit even by the jayotish ! They sale / marketing the rapist , racist and fascist gods . They enjoy sexually the Hindu widdows at Varanasi and Varindavan !!!!!
    We hate and struggle hard to change this socio-religious system of the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods .

    A Brahmin said
    May 2, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
    Ans: Dude!!! again the same F$&@ing thing! rapist racist facist! You know at your heart that your argument is baseless! any rational man knows that one cant blame today’s generation for things that happened 4000 years in the past. and well, even you worshiped those gods for thousands of years. If you hate everything about hindu gods, why don’t you start a new religion and leave hinduism? you won’t do that because you want to beg for special rights so that you can get things you don’t deserve!

  374. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY IS A PARASITE ON INDIAN ECONOMY !!!!!

    Ans:??????????????????????????????????????????
    Justify your statement!
    My answer is :
    We are not beggers . We are labourers and artisans . The Brahmin community is a parasite on Indian society which even collect tax at Hardwar , Varanasi , Gaya , Pehowa , Allahabad etc. whenever a person want to emerse the remains of a dead relative ! They exploit even by the jayotish ! They sale / marketing the rapist , racist and fascist gods . They enjoy sexually the Hindu widdows at Varanasi and Varindavan !!!!!

    ( 2 ) don’t just spit out any filth that comes to your dirty mouth.
    My answer is :
    You are argueing or abusing / querling ?
    ( 3 ) As far as I know, chanakya, who was a brahmin gave the world “arthashastra”. Modern business schools all over the world use his work even today.
    My answer is :
    A brahmin scholar Dr. Surendra Ajnat Ph.D in his book ‘ kautlya ka anartshastra ‘ means Kautlya`s useless arthshastra ‘ researched that Kautlya did not wrote this book ! Had you read the Arathshastra ? It tells how to kill your enemies ! Is it bussiness management topic ?
    ( 4 ) 7 out of shivaji maharaj’s 8 ministers were brahmins and they advised him on economics and revenue. and we know that economic reform happened during maratha rule.
    My answer is :
    The Brahmins of Maharashtra refused to perform the rituals of coronation of Shiva ji Maharaj as he was a Shudra ! Atlast Shiva ji Maharaj purchased a Brahmin named Ghag Bhatt of Varanasi to perform the rituals of coronation of Shiva ji Maharaj ! Is it not true ?
    The Brahmin community boycotted him for this and he had to write a book in which he claimed that he put the tilak by his thumb of the foot on the fore head of Shiva ji Maharaj ? Is it not true ?
    The Brahmins and Rajputs destroyed the Shiva ji Maharaj and Maharaja Ranjit Singh`s kingdoms and killed their families ! Is it not true ?

    ( 5 ) Even today most of the economic thinkers and advisors in india are brahmins. and india is doing pretty good in the global market today… isn’t it? you are really naive in making such a statement!
    MY ANSWER IS :
    Nowadays the MAJORITY Brahmin government employees get benefits of 60% PAY ENHANCEMENT !
    THE PRESIDENT OF INDIA GETS RS.1.42 LACS PM INSTEAD OF RS. 45, OOO IN PAST . In Orrisa the people are eating rats and you are talking of global market . The manuwadi India is shining !

  375. C . L . CHUMBER said

    BJP`S RAM REJECTED BY THE INDIAN VOTERS !!!!!

    SanJam said
    May 18, 2009 @ 11:56 am
    Mr Chumber,, what do you have to say on lok sabha results?
    MY ANSWER IS : Please read my comments in the https://dalitnation.wordpress.com regularly .
    ( 2 ) People of this country have rejected bullshit politics of caste, religion and region…
    MY ANSWER IS : Yes , the voters of India are against the bullshit caste / varna system and Aryan`s Hindu religion of bloody fool Brahma ! That is why they defeated terrorist Hindus` political wing BJP who promised to build a big Ram Temple at Ayodya .
    ( 3 ) so your corrupt, ugly and shameless mayawati, can only be a PM in her greedy dreams!
    MY ANSWER IS : I never supported any person for P.M.
    I think Mayawati is more fair than your family ladies !
    She is less corrupt than the manuwadis . You people are more shameless than Mayawati who still worship the rapist , raceist and fascist Gods !!!!!
    ( 4 ) as far as you are concerned,, you are again sidelined as a stray dog,,, good for nothing!!!
    MY ANSWER IS : YOU HAVE NO COMMON SENSE HOW TO BEHAVE WITH OTHERS . NO ONE CAN SIDELINE ME AS I AM WITH TRUTH AND YOU PEOPLE ARE WITH FALSEHOOD AND EVIL GODS !!!!!
    ( 5 ) mayawati and even millions like her cannot become prime minister unless majority of indians turn into rabid dogs like chumber and his gang!
    MY ANSWER IS : YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE M/S HAPPY HINDU VAIDIK ABUSIVE NON SENSE CLUB WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DIALOGUE ! YOU MUST KNOW THAT RABID DOGS ARE BETTER THAN YOUR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS WELL THEIR FOLLOWERS LIKE YOU . THE RABID DOGS NEVER RAPE LIKE YOUR EVIL GODS !!!!!
    ( 6 ) hahahha…..
    now, who’s having the last laugh?
    MY ANSWER IS : THE RSS , BJP AND MR. ADVANI PRIME MINISTER-IN-WAITING !!!!!
    ( 7 ) chumber,,, tere ko apni aukaat pataa lag gayi hogi ab!
    MY ANSWER IS : MR. SANJAM ! AFTER READING MY ANSWERS ‘ tere ko apni aukaat pataa lag gayi hogi ab! ‘

  376. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I HEREBY REPRODUCE BELOW ARTICLE IN THE TRIBUNE-SPECTRUM DATED 24TH MAY , 2009 FOR REVIEW . INDIAN WOMEN STILL NOT INDEPENDENT DUE TO MANUWADI BENT OF MIND OF THE MEN !!!!!
    Shoma A. Chatterji on the ugly face of domestic violence in India and how far the law has been able to serve as a deterrent
    courtesy : http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090524/spectrum/main1.htm

    • Sukra Charya said

      Chumber,
      “INDIAN WOMEN STILL NOT INDEPENDENT DUE TO MANUWADI BENT OF MIND OF THE MEN”. What rubbish.

      Whether Indian women are free or not, cannot be decided by one third-rate journalist, in a fourth-rate paper. In today’s world, men and women are known by their achievements.

      What achievement does this journalist have? Anything close to Indira Nooyi?

      People who are failures find “feminist” OR “anti-Manuwadi” causes.

  377. Siddhesh said

    If Brahmins indeed treated their women like filth they would kill them if women would even dream of marrying other caste guys! Brahmins are only Indian community who has done LARGEST number of inter-caste, inter-state, inter-religious or inter-national marriages which can be only attributed to their higher level of maturity.

    About Brahmin men: I BET Brahmin men can get ANY Dalit woman they want (I do not mean to offend honor of Dalit women.) On practical lines, Brahmin men are far more well-off and have modern views than poor Dalit girls can ever find in the grooms of their respective communities. It’s Dalit women who are not very elegant, intellectual, charming like all other Dalits and fail to attract Brahmin men!

    • happyhind said

      Siddesh,

      Not sure why you think a ‘brahmin’ man can get any woman he wants. I happen to come across the reverse more often in real life – of girls marrying more often for love.

      Nor can i understand why you think brahmin men have more ‘modern’ views. Aren’t there men who are not being able to adapt to changing times everywhere ?

      And why should anyone attract ‘brahmin’ men ? Girls go for character and a guy with a moneyed-background more than anything else.

    • hh said

      the old comment seems to have disappeared. but just wanted to say this:

      siddesh,

      A man’s education and his work abilities being taken for granted, women these days seem to go more often for a guy with a character they can get along with and a wealthy background more than anything else these days.

      you may also be aware of the reverse of what you have said. tehre are women who do not consider certain men as good dates because of individual preferences, like food or restaurant choice, etc.

  378. C . L . CHUMBER said

    YOU ARE TRUE FOLLOWER OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS !!!!!
    Siddhesh said
    May 24, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

  379. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!

    The https://dalitnation.wordpress.com is allowing the readers to discuss the Indian mythology , history and culture with special context to the present conditions of Indian society but some miscreants create nuisance by abusing and abusing regularly to those who continue e-dialogue with patience .

    Let us do not mind these vaidik abusive bad boys of the M/s Happy Hindu Non-Sense Club who even attacked on the Dalit girls recently in this blog .They threat me to handle ! I am to say very very humbly that I will throw the Rapist , Racist and Fascist Gods and their FOLLOWERS in the gutter at the cost of my life !!!!! These evil FOLLOWERS want to continue to crush the FLOWERS which spread the scent of equality , fraternity , liberity and justice !!!!!

    WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!

    Siddhesh said
    May 24, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

    • hh said

      look chumber, i do not know the people posting here.

      do not associate everyone with something called a abusive club.

      because of you i have stopped using happy hindu. just because people are saying things opposite to your views does not mean they are abusive.

      nobody is challenging constitution. you are just shouting nonsense in your lunacy.

  380. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said

    I condemn Siddesh`s lustful views ,I think that he has lost his brain .He must respect the women as our mothers , sisters and daughters .

  381. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I am on tour to attend the convocation of my eldest daughtr`s M.B.A. degree of Wales University , U.K. campus at Pune on 6th June , 2009 at the Le Meredian Hotel , Pune ( Maharshtra ) .Then I will be on my research tour of Maharashtra , Andhra Pardesh and Karnatka . That is why I could not react / re-eact to the writings.

    I hereby reproduce Mr.HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ` classic writting in which he admitted that
    , ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!

    Now M/S Shukra Charya and Rajesh etc. are M/s Happy Hindu only using the same ‘ vaidik abusive language ‘ and are staunch followers of the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods !!!!!
    C.L .CHUMBER said
    November 11, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
    HURRAH !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) ADMITTED FINALLY THAT BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!

    BUT HE NEVER DISCARD HIS ABUSIVE VEDIK LANGUAGE ,” Barking dogs try to bite but can never bite.”

    OUR TRUE GOD WON OVER THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFY OF RAPISTS , RACIST , FASCIST AND FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS ULTIMATELY !!!!!
    SATYA MEV JAYATEY BY E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

    • hh said

      Chumber,

      You are a lunatic no doubt.

      You cannot even understand the difference b/w two sentences. I said Gods did not rape. And those who raped burned to ashes. Ofcourse if gods did not rape then ofcourse they cannot burn to ashes.

      If you have a wrong wiring prob, then don’t keep proclaiming hurrah and such rubbish.

      I dunno who is this shukracharya, rajesh, etc. I have nothing to do with ppl posting here.

      You have decided to club everyone posting here under one club just because you cannot reason out anything.

      I do not how who is this “true god” of yours who has “won” something. For a crackpot like you, there is only one solution – mental asylum.

      • Sukra Charya said

        ” dunno who is this shukracharya, rajesh, etc.”..

        At least one thing is proved. We cannot take for granted that all human beings can reason.

  382. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Dear Chumber ji ,
    First of all , I congratulate you on your research tour of Maharashtra , Karnatka and Andhra Pardesh states .I am impressed that you are very secular in your views.You did good analysis of a Brahmin by birth Nath Panthi Sant Janeshwar Gayaneshwar / Gayandev of Kalindi under tytle ‘ WE ARE PROUD OF THEM WHO SACRIFICED EVEN THEIR LIVES FOR US !!!!! ‘

    I send you also congratulations on your daughter getting MBA degree of Wales University , U.K. It is good that you even pledged your home for your children`s higher study loans .We Indian especially Dalits must follow Mr. Chumber .Please convey my congratulations to your wife and children on this rare success .

    I am your fan and feel sorry for the abuses of Mr. Happy Hindu and his friends .I warn Mr.Happy Hindu and his friends to hold their tongues and mind s , otherwise I have to file complaints against them to the police to teach them good lessons .

  383. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! THE RAPIST IS ALWAYS DEAD FOR THE SOCIETY !!!!! BUT YOU ARE STILL HAPPY AND HINDU !!!!!

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    NO DOCTOR EVER CERTIFIED THAT THE FOLLOWERS OF THE THE RAPIST , RACEIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ARE NOT LUNATICS HENCE ‘You are a lunatic no doubt.’
    NEXT YOU SAID ,” I said Gods did not rape. And those who raped burned to ashes. Ofcourse if gods did not rape then ofcourse they cannot burn to ashes. ” I HAVE SO MANY TIMES WROTE IN THIS BLOG THE REFERENCES REGARDING VARINDAS RAPE BY VISHANU .I AGAIN JUST POSTED AS BELOW ;-

    C. L . CHUMBER said
    June 7, 2009 @ 8:58 am
    PLEASE PURCHASE THE PADAM PURAN TO KNOW HOW VISHANU RAPED AN INNOCENT AND PIOUS ADI-MATA VARINDA AND KILLED HER HUSBAND !!!!!

    Padma Purana, Part 9 (Padma-Purana)
    by N. A. Deshpande
    Published by M/s Motilal Banarsidass Publisher , New Delhi .
    Link : http://openlibrary.org/b/OL13130601M/Padma-Purana%2C-Part-9-%28Padma-Purana%29

    THE PADAM PURANA ( ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS IN 10 VOLS. )
    http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDF395/

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! THE RAPIST IS ALWAYS DEAD FOR SOCIETY !!!!! BUT YOU ARE STILL HAPPY AND HINDU !!!!!

    June 8, 2009 @ 11:48 am
    Chumber,

    You are a lunatic no doubt.

    You cannot even understand the difference b/w two sentences. I said Gods did not rape. And those who raped burned to ashes. Ofcourse if gods did not rape then ofcourse they cannot burn to ashes.

    • hh said

      Please show me where in the Padma purana is the rape episode mentioned? Where does it say rape is acceptable?

  384. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Respected Chumber ,
    I congratulate you on your reply to Mr. Happy Hindu with reasoning .They call you even ‘ lunatic ‘ but you did not mind .You are from a well cultured family that is why you have a patience but they are the patients of ego and anger which are very harm ful for body and mind .Thanks.

    C .L . CHUMBER said
    June 10, 2009 @ 7:14 am
    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! THE RAPIST IS ALWAYS DEAD FOR THE SOCIETY !!!!! BUT YOU ARE STILL HAPPY AND HINDU !!!!!

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !

    June 8, 2009 @ 11:48 am
    Chumber,

    You are a lunatic no doubt.

  385. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    YOU READ YOURSELF THE PADAM PURANA , THEN ASK IF NOT . YOU ARE ABSENT MIND . WE ARE DISCUSSING THESE MATTERS FROM 14TH APRIL , 2008 AND YOU ARISE AGAIN THIS QUESTION AFTER SOME MONTHS .

    hh said
    June 10, 2009 @ 11:02 am
    Please show me where in the Padma purana is the rape episode mentioned? Where does it say rape is acceptable?

    • hh said

      I already read the Padma Purana and did not find any rape incident in it as alleged by you.

      So you tell me from where you got it. Are you not evil to keep alleging like this Chumber?

    • hh said

      You never provided the page number. You did not post the actual verses mentioning the rape incident.

      I did not find any rape incident in it as mentioned by you.

      So, you have to provide either the page numbers or the actual verses.

  386. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE PADAM PURANA PUBLISHED BY WHICH PUBLISHER YOU READ ? PLEASE SEND ME THE NAME OF THE PUBLISHER WITH FULL ADDRESS AND TRANSLATOR ( S ) OF THE PURANA YOU READ !

    I HAD PASTED TWO LINKS OF THE PADAM PURANA PUBLISHED IN ENGLISH .

    hh said
    June 12, 2009 @ 9:04 am
    I already read the Padma Purana and did not find any rape incident in it as alleged by you.

    So you tell me from where you got it. Are you not evil to keep alleging like this Chumber?

    • hh said

      I read two publications: one by deshpande and another by debroy, both from amazon (type padma purana in http://www.amazon.com and order). There are not different from one another. One is concise and other is elaborate. They are exact translations of sanskirt verses. Now you tell me from where you got the rape incident as alleged by you. Give me the exact translations or the sanskrit verses with he name of the book, page number and publication.

    • Sukra Charya said

      Chumber,
      Since its you, who made the allegation, YOU have to provide the proof and/or the evidence. That’s the accepted standard. YOU have to PUBLISH your findings, including the evidence, FIRST.

      The other people on this forum may validate it in different ways. That’s the way the scientific community works. Not just hh, but any of the rest of us, would expect the same from you.

      You HAVE to do the following:
      a) State the actual Sanskrit sloka (line, text and verse)
      b) State the events before and after in which it takes place (to give it context)
      c) The code of conduct it supposedly violates
      d) What you find unacceptable

      The fact that hh may provide evidence IS BESIDE THE POINT. You still have to fulfill your obligations/responsibility first.

  387. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Globalisation and income inequalities
    By V. S. SAMBANDAN
    The main finding of the study conducted by the ILO is that globalisation has resulted in the widening of income inequality across and within countries .
    Courtesy :
    http://www.hindu.com/br/2009/06/16/stories/2009061650081200.htm

  388. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! I AM WAITING YOUR REPLY !!!!!

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 15, 2009 @ 10:09 am
    THE PADAM PURANA PUBLISHED BY WHICH PUBLISHER YOU READ ?

    hh said
    June 12, 2009 @ 9:04 am
    I already read the Padma Purana and did not find any rape incident in it as alleged by you.

    • hh said

      Your crackedness is flowing superbly chumber. I already replied above but you are saying you are waiting for the reply.

  389. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ THE ELECTION COMMISSION`S CODE OF CONDUCT , THEN WATCH THE ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE BJP !!!!!

    Election Commission of India on model code violations
    COURTESY :
    http://www.hindu.com/nic/modelcodeviolations.htm

  390. Sukra Charya said

    Chumber,

    Why do you have to justify Ambedkar’s marrying a Brahmin lady? Its their personal matter between them if the marriage works out or not.

    I am sure many Dalit pseudo-Leaders will claim that inter-caste marriages are taking place NOW, BECAUSE OF THEIR DEMAND FOR EQUALITY. The fact is that inter-caste marriages have been taking place in Hindu society,
    whether anyone noticed it or not. The best example is Sarojini Naidu, a lady freedom-fighter. Their marriage took place before 1900 – over a hundred years ago!!

    Hindu society has always reacted to discrimination by trying to eliminate it. Sarojini Naidu did not need a speech from Ambedkar. But she is a fine example of Hindu society and Indian womanhood – as it existed at THAT time.

    Maybe before complaining about Hindu society, it would be a good idea to check up on facts first. If you are interested in a serious debate, abuses of Hindu Gods, Hindu social system must go.

  391. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE WATCH MR. HAPPY HINDU` S STAND !
    NOW, M/S HAPPY HINDUS CLAIM THAT THE MANU SIMRIRTY IS NOT E RELIGIOUS BOOK !
    IF MANU WAS A SAINT , THEN DAWOOD AND TALIBANS ARE ALSO SAINTS .
    h said
    August 25, 2008 @ 7:04 pm
    Mesquiteice,

    MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS .

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

    • Sukra Charya said

      “MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS…”.

      Maybe so. But he was certainly no idiot.

    • hh said

      dharmashastras are law books. they do not apply to all hindus. to me, they are not religious. so what?

      ah well, i knew that sooner of later, you wud start praising dawood, taliban, pakistan,…why don’t you just admit you are a paki funded muslim missionary begger like most of your former khaalisthan mates.

  392. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Please refer my writing with date and time .

    Sukra Charya said
    June 20, 2009 @ 8:10 pm
    Chumber,

    Why do you have to justify Ambedkar’s marrying a Brahmin lady?

    • Sukra Charya said

      That’s the heading. The title.

  393. Sukra Charya said

    If you think, Talibans are saints – and you are proud to be their follower – SO BE IT.

    At least people know where you stand.

  394. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Dr B.R. Ambedkar said :
    So long as you do not achieve social liberty, whatever freedom is provided by the law is of no avail to you.

  395. C . L . CHUMBER said

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    • hh said

      well chumber…you cannot provide verses from sanskrit scriptures. but you claim a hell lot.

      you provide works of abraham kovoor, islamic zealots, balley, all those stupid missionary funded guys who DID NOT quote one single original verse from any scripture in their works.

      and you cannot provide that as well. instead you provide the link to your stupid blog at wetpaintcentral and your own repeated sentences without any quotes from the scriptures.

      so for a dunce loony like you looking to beg for a living with your stupid publications, you have only one way to go — either police station or mental asylum.

  397. C . L . CHUMBER said

    INDRA – A LUSTFUL HEAD OF THE HINDU GODS !!!!!
    BY Dr. Abraham Kovoor

    Indra is the head of all gods. Amarawati was his celestial residence. Arjun was born to Indra as a result of his clandestine adultery with Pandu’s wife, he had no hesitation in committing adultery with the wives of other men. One day when Indra saw Ruchi, the beautiful wife of Devasarma, he became extremely passionate and wanted to seduce her. But Ruchi chased Indra out ,and he had to go away disappointed.
    COURTESY : http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pantheon/4789/Articles/General/gods_and_godesses.html

    On another occasion Indra could not control his sexual passion when he saw Goutama’s wife Ahalya. He committed adultery with Ahalya when her husband was away. On his return home Goutama saw Indra in sexual interlock with his wife. Goutama cursed both of them.

    Once Aruna visited Devaloka in the disguise of a woman. When Indra saw this woman in disguise he could not control his passion. He had sexual intercourse with this imitation woman. Bali was born as the result of this un-natural homosexual cohabitation

  398. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE WATCH THE GOOGLE TO READ ” BRAHMA RAPED DAUGHTER” ON MORE THAN 10 PAGES OF REFERENCES !!!!!

    http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=BRAHMA+RAPED+DAUGHTER&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

  399. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE VISIT THE GOOGLE TO READ” RAMA KILLED SAINT SHAMBUK ” FLASHED ON THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com !!!!!

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  400. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE INDIANS VICTIMS OF THE SOCIAL SLAVERY CAUSED BY THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM , MUST FIGHT FOR IT WITH DO OR DIE SPIRIT !

    THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITIES MUST IMPLEMENT THE CONSTITUTION IN TRUE SPIRIT !

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 22, 2009 @ 1:18 pm

    Dr B.R. Ambedkar said :
    So long as you do not achieve social liberty, whatever freedom is provided by the law is of no avail to you.

  401. C . L . CHUMBER said

    AMBEDKAR VS GANDHI ! ( ON GOOGLE )

    COURTESY :http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=AMBEDKAR+VS+GANDHI+&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    • Sukra Charya said

      No questions there. Gandhi the clear winner.

  402. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHO CREATED PAKISTAN ? ( ON GOOGLE )

    COURTESY : http://www.google.co.in/search?q=WHO+CREATED+PAKISTAN+%3F&hl=en&start=20&sa=N

  403. rajashekar said

    Hi Mr.Chumber,
    How are you doing now a days. You stopped answering my queries instead started answering others and postings of your own. You either decided that my queries are of least/little important to you or you have no answer at all , ofcourse, except reproducing the same text with a lead heading THIS IS ONE OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE S OF THE VAIDIK MUNWADI ABUSIVE E- DIOLOGUE. And by the by how is your friend, ardent follower and never to mention a great thinker Mr. RAMA KRISHNA SHARMA . Hope doing well.
    Any way I also stopped looking at your blog Bramhins destroyed your pious dravidan Indus valley civilization built by your able and intellectual ancestors. I sincerely pity for the same. I have now learnt true histoty of great nation called HINDUSTHAN and called by britishers as INDIA by your gooood selves.
    Now coming to the topic in your another blog – why baba saheb married a bramhin women, I wish to state that , without wasting much of my time I have gone through the writings ,e-dialogues (yours), arguments (others, hic) and concluded beyond any requirement for production of proof of evidence t o declare that you are a greatest lose, stinking fuck hole of all the blogs running on the net in the world for all the intolerance you practice and any number of people can piss in that hole . I have better (read worst) words to address you like you addressed some one in the blog as a son of a prostitute with out even giving a thought of what you are writing. But I practice tolerance unlike you and do not bark but politely speak.
    Now again coming to the point under why baba saheb, I would like to warn you that you can not indulge in spreading terror by declaring yourself that all bramhin women should be forciably, by political will – for example reservation, married to dalit and see that bramhins are finished. Even if all your ancestors come together with all their might you can not pluck even a single hair out of a single head of a bramhin you AH( Find /research for AH) . Hey you cowardly insane beggar Why do you think that bramhins are incapable of protecting their women folk. If you think that you can implement what you wrote, the same bramhin community will certainly for sure cut your fucking balls off and make you and every dalit ,trying to follow you , an insane and noisily crying impotent clown and engage NIYOGIS at your service to continue your lineage in your family. Think million time before you slide your sticky pen to abuse another community. Even after 60 plus years of independence , you did not seem to have learnt your lesson from your mistakes. Wisemen learn from others mistakes, idiots will learn from their own mistake and people who does not learn even from their own mistake are yet to be named. You name them or shall we name them as S- tupid C- humber.
    And by the by, you are suppose to reason out why baba saheb married a bramhin women , but instead you started insulting a single community – Bramhins who literally / logically a minority group of people. Tell me why Bramhins should be isolated and insulted . Is it because of the stupidity of your fore fathers and your grand great ancestors who made you to still struggle/fight even today and every day for your democratical right of dignified identity in the society or because your forefathers were properly lead by these bramhin community to their destiny safely in humility and dignity or is it because in spite of several and innumerable revolutions in the country this small group of people called bramhin community has still command their influence in the society or is it because bramhins are known for their wisdom and knowledge. And forget about all those e-diologue, Why do you still treat yourself and see yourself as an untouchable by accusing a single minority group of people called BRAMHINS, and do you know what is the percentage of bramhin population compared to other minority groups in India You filthy idiot. You shit in your pants the moment you see a commanding bramhin.
    Stop spreading deadly virus called hatred from your filthy alcohol stinking shitting fuck all hole called your mouth. You piss in your pants when questioned with authority. Because you still, even after 60 plus years of independence ,feel insecured and inferior in intelligence and public status of any community you name it not necessarily a bramhin community which is of course afar from your reach and do not ever even dream of reaching such a status to occur in your lives. And that is why you spew at every one at every given opportunity only to pacify yourself that you spew at people superior to you in all aspect and try to nourish your mental ability on filth strewn around and to boost your morale in an un healthy concept and perception. Work honestly and sincerely to reach that status. Bramhins’ ancestors and forefather have worshiped their work not as a duty but for their passion , forgone their comforts to reach such status and dignity in the society and definitely not by consuming alcohol and passion for being lazy and lusty.
    AND DO NOT, YOU, SHOUT. Stop spreading unhealthy, unethical philosophy of violence & hatred and learn some thing called AHIMSO PARAMO DHRMAH from the greatest BUDDHISM, the very first philosophy of which attracted none other than BABA SAHEB , you fool. And you proclaim yourself as a true and honest follower of Ambedkar, you dirty mind.
    And am sure that I have not abused you but described your mental status / insanity and wishfully hope it will be posted in the blog for your review and for the review our respected readers and does not attract the attention of Mr.RAMA KRISHNA SHARMA, your beloved follower, to comment on my language and advise.
    And of course I will wait for your comments on this with out bringing our great epics – RAMAYAN,MAHA BHARATH, GEETHA , PURANAS etc,. in between to divert the topic and in addition to that I regret to state that you still have not reached such a superior state of intelligence , ability and philosophical state of intellectual mind to under stand even the alphabet of those great epics of this country. And therefore just shut up on those subject.
    I have written all these in a very simple language to make you understand with out any confusion to occur. AND I EXPECT YOUR DIGNIFIED RESPONSE.
    Even god can not help you sucker.
    PS: Dear Moderator, my last postings in Bramhins destroyed …………… blog yet to be made available for review of our respected readers. Plz do the needful. Thanks and Regards

    • Sukra Charya said

      A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.

      The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.

      One wonders what that patient is doing today.

  404. C . L . CHUMBER said

    UNLESS YOU SEEK OPPLOGY FOR YOUR ABUSES , I WILL NOT DEAL WITH YOU .
    I ALREADY WROTE THIS TO YOU !

    rajashekar said
    June 24, 2009 @ 1:09 pm
    Hi Mr.Chumber

    • rajashekar said

      Hi Chumber,

      For what I have to opologise please clarify and if I am convinced I swear and promise , I will make an un conditional apology and do not run away like you from the point of discussion.

      Furnish me the reason why I should apologise with out bringing other topics in between.

    • hh said

      Chumber,

      You OWE us an apology,

      You must apologize for spreading falsehood.

      You must file a case or you must allow us to file a case.

  405. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THIS IS THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK ABUSIVE E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

    I RETURN THESE ABUSES TO HIS GODS , FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS !!!!!

    rajashekar said
    June 24, 2009 @ 1:09 pm
    Hi Mr.Chumber,

    1.you are a greatest lose, stinking fuck hole of all the blogs running on the net in the world for all the intolerance you practice and any number of people can piss in that hole .
    2 . Hey you cowardly insane beggar
    3 . the same bramhin community will certainly for sure cut your fucking balls off and make you and every dalit ,trying to follow you , an insane and noisily crying impotent clown and engage NIYOGIS at your service to continue your lineage in your family.
    4 . idiots will learn from their own mistake and people who does not learn even from their own mistake are yet to be named. You name them or shall we name them as S- tupid C- humber.
    5 .Is it because of the stupidity of your fore fathers and your grand great ancestors
    6. You filthy idiot.
    7 . You shit in your pants the moment you see a commanding bramhin.
    Stop spreading deadly virus called hatred from your filthy alcohol stinking shitting fuck all hole called your mouth.
    8 . You piss in your pants when questioned with authority .
    9 . And that is why you spew at every one at every given opportunity only to pacify yourself that you spew at people superior to you in all aspect and try to nourish your mental ability on filth strewn
    10 . forgone their comforts to reach such status and dignity in the society and definitely not by consuming alcohol and passion for being lazy and lusty.
    11 ., you fool.
    12 . you dirty mind.
    And am sure that I have not abused you
    13.Even god can not help you sucker.

    • Sukra Charya said

      Chumber,
      You did throw the first stone, did you not?

      This has nothing to do with the race or the ancestry of the person, RajaShekar. He is simply replying in kind.

  406. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ADI-DHARAM – RELIGION OF THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS ! ( 51 BOOKS ON GOOGLE ) .

    COURTESY : http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=hw1DSvTkMIiIkAXNk4S6Dw&ct=result&q=ADI-DHARAM+&btnG=Search+Books

  407. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I REQUEST YOU TO ASK YOUR FAMILY LADIES NOT TO READ YOUR THIS RELIGIOUS WRITING !!!!!

    DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP THE SHIV-LINGA ? ? ? ? ?

    DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP LUSTFUL KARISHNA AND HIS BELOVED RADHA IN THE HINDU TEMPLES ? ? ? ? ?

    DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP BRAHMA WHO RAPED HIS DAUGHTER SARASWATI ? ? ? ? ?

    DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP VISHANU WHO RAPED ADI-MATA VARINDA ? ? ? ? ?

    DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP RAM WHO BANISHED HIS WIFE SITA ? ? ? ? ?

    I THINK MR. S.C.`S MENTALITY IS SUFFERING FROM THE SWINE FLU AS ONE HIS GOD WAS A PIG !!!!!

    Sukra Charya said
    June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am

    A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.

    The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.

    One wonders what that patient is doing today.

    • rajashekar said

      Hi Chumbu

      As suggested by you , I will advise all those ladies not to reach this blog for any fruitful information but for a cowardly attitude with the only motivation to abuse hinduism with derogative phrase of words. Of course you may continue to propaganda of your thoughts, in the meantime, more authoritative and meaningful. You have that privilage to make your thoughts popular. But how many people are going to buy it is what matters at the end of the day.
      Any way coming to your question here as under , please read on and by reading atleast from now on wards learn how to clarify the quesries that other respectable readers of this blog post .Now this goes like this one by one . Take it now:

      1.DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP THE SHIV-LINGA?
      NO. Other people like Wife,Husband, members of family , friends, followers and other well wishers worship shiv-linga in view of getting that person out from that state of mind. Now ,therefore, I, as your well wisher, worship shiv-linga to cure you from your insanity that must have happend to you for all the mental agony you would have undergone in your life. Now I request your family ladies,children,friends ,followers and your well wishers to worship shiv linga for your fast recovery from your madness.
      2.DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP LUSTFUL KARISHNA AND HIS BELOVED RADHA IN THE HINDU TEMPLES ? ? ? ? ?
      No. They do not. Instead others who are not insane worship Krishna in the form of eternal spirit and not as Lustful . Only insane people think that Krishna is lustful.
      3. DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP BRAHMA WHO RAPED HIS DAUGHTER SARASWATI ? ? ? ? ?
      No.Bramha did not rape Saraswathi. And he is worshiped.
      4.DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP VISHANU WHO RAPED ADI-MATA VARINDA ? ? ? ? ?
      NO. Vishnu has not raped Varinda. And he is worshiped
      5. DO THE MENTALLY SICK PEOPLE WORSHIP RAM WHO BANISHED HIS WIFE SITA ? ? ? ? ?
      Rama did not banish Sita but when a dalit like you suspected her fidelity,unlike todays politician Purushotham Ram wanted to prove that words / opinion of even the last person in the line is considered and respected in spite of acknowledging that dalit’s stupidity. And therefore, it is not his intention to send her off but because of the cheap and rotten mentality of that stupid dalit , he has taken such a hard decision. Otherwise he would have given a plot form then only for people like you to politicise and malign not only with his ability but also with modesty of Mata Sita which in any case you have taken up. And with that you are confirming you are also one stupid person.
      6. THINK MR. S.C.`S MENTALITY IS SUFFERING FROM THE SWINE FLU AS ONE HIS GOD WAS A PIG !!!!!
      Actually it is not SC who is mentally suffering from swine flu but its you who eat pork. And his god was and is not a pig and if you go back to where you come from , perhaps you find youself being a pig.

  408. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ALAS ! HE WAS LOOSER TO BRAHMINS WHO KILLED HIM BY PISTOL .

    Sukra Charya said
    June 24, 2009 @ 11:43 pm
    No questions there. Gandhi the clear winner.

    • Sukra Charya said

      Yes, Chumber. We sent the gentleman to the gallows.

      No mercy shown, because he was a Brahmin. That is the India we want to build. No shame there. No guilt there.

  409. rajashekar said

    Hey Chumbu,

    You did the same thing I expected for. As I mentioned it to you in the earlier cases , you simply , with out putting any fruitful efforts, made your intelligence reservation to response to selected and reserved postings and made my judgment a naked truth by not only copying and reproducing my original text but apart from that dedicating it to me, my family members and friends as if you wrote it on your own. That does not furnish any meaning full clarification for my queries.
    Well, as well, I do not accept your proposal of returning it to me. You keep it with you . It is dedicted to you and to your khandaan , friends and followers. You are a real time JOKER because all that you have done to clarify on my queries / writings is a reproduction of my ORIGINAL TEXT which is ment for a lunatic person like you and only you , who acts like an uneducated, illiterate original clown of all time with out furnishing proper clarifiaction to the points raised and put forth to you for your explanation. Instead you try to divert the point of discussion to some thing else from soliciting some other phrases and bull shit stories in between.
    Hey You pant wetting lose hole, I have given you certain queries to be clarified by you. Your reproduction of my text does not provide any clarification on those you lose cunt.
    Practically you do not have one. ACCEPT THAT I WILL SHOW MERCY AND LEAVE YOU .
    Otherwise answer all my questions / queries with your ill gotten intelligence you bugger.
    Am sure if any well educated and decent Dalit come across your writings on them, which eventually projects them in a very bad light and shape as if they are the one living like aliens in this country and needs to be uplifted in the society, that person will really die of shame or will certainly try to find where you stay and am sure he will definitely hold you by your collar and pull you to the court of law for maligning their social status with malicious intent to defame their very existence and just to create your mileage and apart from that you are repeatedly pleading and begging on their behalf with out any consent given by them.
    You are such a perverted dick headed bugger on this earth that you do not even spare respectable and enterprising people who make Indian raise their head in humility and pride and generate employment opportunity in millions and you want to open your stinking toilets there also on reservation basis you jack ass. And that to he should be bramhin entrepreneur , why??. If you have any hatred feeling towards them face them independently and bravely instead of fleeing away from them or taking social refugee under this DALIT NATION BANNER or stop targeting them you coward. Come out from your dark den to the light and show us your face instead of acting like a frightened rat in the dark hole.
    And You are a BACHCHA to understand all that you quote about Ramayana, Mahabharath and puranas. It is like , a person like you, trying to translate BRAMHA SUTRA BHASHYA of great SHANKARACHRYA (into a simple regional language ), a great hindu sage who took several years to write it. It is like a small and blind Ant in a thick and dark jungle trying to map this world you , (do not find appropriate word to address you at this juncture).
    If you still think you can come face to face to discuss these matter, furnish the place and time , we will meet and see an end to this and prove your guts or else just shut up. Do not play with others sentiments. And if you still continue to play you can only be considered as one foreigner who is following the foot steps of none other than Britishers just to capture the corridors of power with malicious intent to satisfy your personal and materialistic lust with out caring for the down trodden people of this country whom you proclaim to care for and fight for.

    NOW I AM SHOUTING. DO NOT FLEE AWAY WITH OUT ANSWERING MY QUERIES OR SIMPLY JUST SURRENDER .

    • hh said

      Rajahshekhar,

      i also used to lose my temper with this insolent fellow.

      But please understand that he is mad. i realized it is useless to get angry with mad people since they can only repeat things like broken tape recorder within 4 boundries, and do not have the ability to understand anything beyond it.

      After a while, you will infact find this mad fellow comical..like free comedy.

      • rajashekar said

        Dear HH,

        I am in agreement with you for his being an insane.

  410. rajashekar said

    Mr.Chumber,

    What is your opinion / comment on Mr.Nandan Nilekani , who is hand picked by the our beloved Priminister Dr.Manmohan Singh and his appointment as the very first and the only first Chairperson of the National Unique Identification Authority of India WITH NOTHING less than the rank and status of a CABINET MINISTER, who was earlier Co- Chairman of Infosys Technologies.

  411. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THERE IS NOT BIGGEST EVER IDIOT LIKE MANU IN THE WORLD !

    MANU WAS NOT A SAINT , HE IS ONE OF THE RESPOSIBLE MANUWADIS FOR INDIAN SUB-CONTINANT`S SOCIO-ECONOMIC PROBLEMS SINCE CENTURIES !!

    THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION BANNED THE MANU SIMRITY`S DISCRIMINATIONS BY ALLOWING EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE BASED FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS TO EVRY INDIAN CITIZEN !!!

    THE TALIBANS AND M/S HAPPY HINDU NON-SENSE VEDIC CLUB MEMBERS ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF MANU !!!!

    WE LOVE ” LIVE AND LET LIVE ” BASED ON EQUALITY ,EQUITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 22, 2009 @ 6:44 am
    PLEASE WATCH MR. HAPPY HINDU` S STAND !
    NOW, M/S HAPPY HINDUS CLAIM THAT THE MANU SIMRIRTY IS NOT E RELIGIOUS BOOK !
    IF MANU WAS A SAINT , THEN DAWOOD AND TALIBANS ARE ALSO SAINTS .
    h said
    August 25, 2008 @ 7:04 pm
    Mesquiteice,

    MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS .

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

    Sukra Charya said
    June 24, 2009 @ 11:39 pm
    “MANU WAS A SAINT COMPARED TO YOU POLITICIANS…”.

    Maybe so. But he was certainly no idiot.

    Sukra Charya said
    June 22, 2009 @ 10:53 am
    If you think, Talibans are saints – and you are proud to be their follower – SO BE IT.

    At least people know where you stand.

  412. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HE IS APPOINTED BY A ROOTLESS AND SPONSERED BY THE GLOBAL CAPITALISTS AND THE BRAHMINISED FORCES WHO CAPTURED THE INDIA BY HOOK AND CROOK !!!!!

    rajashekar said
    June 26, 2009 @ 7:39 am
    Mr.Chumber,

    What is your opinion / comment on Mr.Nandan Nilekani , who is hand picked by the our beloved Priminister Dr.Manmohan Singh and his appointment as the very first and the only first Chairperson of the National Unique Identification Authority of India WITH NOTHING less than the rank and status of a CABINET MINISTER, who was earlier Co- Chairman of Infosys Technologies.

  413. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,
    YOU SAID :
    HE (Mr.Nilekani of Infosys) IS APPOINTED BY A ROOTLESS AND SPONSERED BY THE GLOBAL CAPITALISTS AND THE BRAHMINISED FORCES WHO CAPTURED THE INDIA BY HOOK AND CROOK !!!!!

    Do you mean to say that Indian Priminister and the the house of cabinet is so weak and vulnarable to pressure tactics and Mr.Manmohan Singh ignored the advise of those Intelligent and intelectual Dalit leaders of this nation called India under pressure and FAILED to bring justice to the deserved candiate(s) for such a lucrative, challenging and elevated status that the post carry to Mr.Nilekani and if so , do you accept that the force and the influence of Bramhins and the pressure from bramhanical global capitalist pressure is more or the most honoured by all those honourable members of Indian democratically elected parliment ?.

    Going by what you said above, you are agreeing in principal that Dalits are yet to civilise their status to get elevated to such honourable post(s) of the country by contributing to the over all development /welfare of the nation but by not queing up with a bowl in the hand at the reservation counters of India for the sops given away by the Government of India under a deceased system called QUOTA and become independently able to attain such status in dignity and pride , as any other community stay today with out enjoying any such quota facility.

    OR do you mean to say that these GLOBAL CAPITALISTS AND THE BRAHMINISED FORCES are passionately in love with Mr.Nandan Nilekani and therefore it is not his hard work, commitment to perform, honest efforts to accomplish and the comforts that he forgone , has brought this pride and rewarded him.
    If so why only Nilekani, why not others and why others, who are capable of lobbying for any thing in the world at the Delhi power house , has missed this Prestigeous offer and why it is not sold in auction.

    And the last question is, what is meant by ROOTLESS, what do you mean by HE IS APPOINTED BY A ROOTLESS . Mr.Nandan Nilekani is appointed by none other than Governemnt of India and perhaps with the consent of The President of India. Now I expect your explanation for ROOTLESS.

    I want a straight forward answer for all the above questions with out indulging in mud swindling narrations.

  414. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MY NAME IS C.L.CHUMBER NOT CHUMBU !

    I ALREADY SAID THAT MR. RAJASHEKAR LIKE ABUSIVE PERSONS ARE NOT FIT FOR E-DIALOGUE .

    rajashekar said
    June 26, 2009 @ 11:27 am

    Hi Chumbu

    • rajashekar said

      Mr.Chumber,

      It is not intentional and perhaps a typo error and regret for the same.

    • Sukra Charya said

      Chumber,
      You threw the first stone is it not? So, you are still answerable.

  415. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHO WAS BRAHMIN TO WHOM YOU SENT TO THE GALLOWS ?
    Sukra Charya said
    June 28, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

    Yes, Chumber. We sent the gentleman to the gallows.

    No mercy shown, because he was a Brahmin. That is the India we want to build. No shame there. No guilt there.

    • hh said

      Shukracharya,

      i think this chumber fellow will keep barking nonsense. No use providing explanations. He cannot understand. Full Khaali-sthan case, no nuts or bolts to get loosened in the first place. Never seen such stupidity in a grown up human before. i suppose i have had enuf laughs with this lunacy case.

      Au reviour. Till we meet again. See ya.

  416. C . L . CHUMBER said

    RAJASHEKAR ! READ THIS WRITING OF SUKARACHARYA AND REACT ON IT AS I HAD REACTED . BUT YOU REACTED ON MY WRITING .

    IF YOU LIKE THIS WRITING OF SHUKRACHARYA , THEN GET PRINTS OUT OF IT AND PRESENT IT TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS !!!!!

    Sukra Charya said
    June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am

    A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.

    The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.

    One wonders what that patient is doing today.
    rajashekar said
    June 26, 2009 @ 11:27 am

    Hi Chumbu

    • rajashekar said

      Mr.Chumber,
      How does it any way attract your attention and why shall it ? . It is not addressed to you in the first place and you are reacting on that spontaneously. Why do you always think that something written on the wall is directed to you. You have a problem in seeing any thing in right direction and positive direction. That is what exactly is required to be learnt by you to understand things in the way it is supposed to be. You better straighten up yourself in your thought process and contribute some thing that is being a path to be followed not filth. Do not live and try to lead your followers in your own paradox Mr.Chumber. wakeup.

  417. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHY ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP SHIV -LINGA ?
    WHY NOT THEY WORSHIP BRAHMA-LINGA ? ?
    WHY NOT THEY WORSHIP VISHANU-LINGA ? ? ?
    WHY NOT THEY WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF BRAHMA`S INCARNATIONS ? ? ? ?
    WHY NOT THEY WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF VISHANU`S INCARNATIONS ? ? ? ? ?
    rajashekar said
    June 26, 2009 @ 11:27 am

    Hi Chumbu

    • rajashekar said

      Mr.Chumber,

      It is one’s own wish whether one wants to worship shiv ling or vishnu ling.
      The question you asked looks very stupid because it is left to ones own wish and his devotion. In a democratic country like India you are allowed to worship in any form. I am sure you are a person who respect the Indian Constitution by its word.I think this answer should clarify your doubt.

    • Sukra Charya said

      We are back to ZERO and ONE.

    • hh said

      We worship Shiva in many forms, as the consciousness of our selves, as a linga, as a statue, everywhrere…

      btw, the shiva linga is not a penis. The linga representation is cylindrical and does not have the corona of a penis.

      But it does represent the union of male and female, as the energies of yin and yang, the union of kundalini shakti with cosmic consciousness..

      btw, we are not ashamed of sex and