Brahmin Deception through Dalai Lama

The Manuwadi Hindus destroyed Buddhism in its own land of birth. While Buddhism is widely spread across Asia, it had lost all traces in the land of its birth. Buddha was the greatest emancipator of Dalit Bahujans in India. He was the biggest challenger to manuwadis till Babasaheb came into picture. But the most cunning race on earth, the Brahmins infiltrated Buddhism and destroyed it in India. Adi Shankaracharya, the wily Brahmin pygmy priest destroyed Buddhism with the help of kings like Pushyamitra Sunga. The Brahmins destroyed the Buddha Viharas and converted the Buddhist Idols into Hindu gods. They made the great humanist Buddha into the ninth avatar of the inhuman Vishnu. The Brahmins are excellent fiction writers and their fictions are called Puranas. They have enslaved the people of India using these fictions.

What was once a humanitarian Buddhist country became the inhuman casteist India. It was as a result of Babasaheb that Buddhism was revived in India. The Dalit Bahujans got back their original religion. Babasaheb knew the cunning and scheming Brahmin minds very well and he wrote the ‘Buddha and his Dharma’, the greatest book of Buddhism ever written. In this book Babasaheb removed all the corruption introduced in the teachings of the Buddha by the Brahmin priests. The Brahminical karma and reincarnation theories were completely debunked by Babasaheb. Buddha was the original and the world’s foremost rationalist.

In the 1900’s there were even Brahmin Buddhist scholars like the Sarswat Brahmin Dharmanand Kosambi, father of D.D. Kosambi the intellectual leader of all Indian Marxists who are all decpective and disgised Brahmins. The Brahmins have a tradition called ‘Purva Paksha’, that is study the enemy well before attacking. These pseudo Buddhists like Kosambi are the people who studied Buddhism so that Brahmins can strategize against the enemies.  Babasaheb who understood the filthy Brahmin mind  and strategies more than anyone else, had studied Buddhism for twenty years before converting to the religion at the historic Nagpur ceremony in 1956. The Brahmins as usual had an eye on this conversion. They sniffed this threat.

At the same time as Babasaheb converted to Buddhism the Tibetian tyrant Dalai Lama was being kicked out by the Chinese. The Chinese were in the process of liberating the Tibetians from the tyranny of the monkhood of the corrupt lotus eating Lamas, which is no different from the Brahmin religious institutions of Shankaracharaya, Swami Narayana or the Veershaivas. The only difference is in the rituals and these monks do not even understand the basics of the Buddha’s teaching which is Humanistic Rationalism. The monks had exploited the toiling Tibetian masses, the dalits of Tibet for centuries through the rule of Dalai Lama and the corrupt regents. The Dalai Lama finally bundled his loot and transferred his money to Swiss banks and escaped to India with the help of the Brahmin Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, the first prime minister of India . The Hindu Brahmins were waiting in 1959 at the Indo-Tibet border to welcome Dalai Lama. Nehru’s trusted friend the playboy prince of Oundh, Apa Panth was incharge of this operation.

The Dalai Lama was recognized by all the major Brahmins in India as a great religious leader. No wonder Dalai Lama has no problem sharing the podium with the Brahmin leaders. These Tibetian  lamas and Hindu Gurus worked together to counter the Ambedkar Buddhists. Dalai Lama has refused to associate himself with Navayana Buddhism of Ambedkar because his whole superstitious worldview and serfdom will collapse. Now Dalai Lama is featured in playboy magazines with Hollywood stars. He has a huge collection of gold watches and jewelry. He has brought huge tracts of land in France and has funded grape farming for the local wineries in Europe. He is no friend of the Dalits but a Brahmin stooge who visits all brahmin ashrams like Ramanashram, Osho Commune or Kanchi Kamakoti peetam or the art of decieving guru Sri Sri Ravishankar.

Dalits have to be very clear about deceptive Buddhists who infact are Brahminical agents thrusting the Manuwadi agenda. Our guide and beacon of light is Babasaheb Ambedkar and his great body of work. Dalits deviating from Ambedkar’s buddhism will pay the price and come under the yoke of Brahminical castesim. Our Dalit brethren should learn the lessons from history and not commit the same mistakes which resulted in our slavery in this inhuman manuwadi system. Through Dalit Nation we will continue to expose the Brahmins in the guise of Buddhists.

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  1. h said

    Buddhism is alive and well in India……

    You guys are politicians not buddhists….do not ruin Buddhist faith.

    You say Dalai Lama refused to associate with Ambedkar-brand of Navayana Buddhism…..don’t you dare bring the Dalai Lama in between here.

    What is this Ambedkar’s Navayana Buddhism — check-out, you will know that you guys are stupid.

    People who talk ill about Ravi Shankar, Shankaracharaya, Swami Narayana or the Veershaivas cannot be normal people.

    You say China liberated Tibet???

    You guys are clearly anti-indians working for a communist-mullah-evangelist combine.

    • KUMARPUSHP said

      Hay HH,Who said India is a country,India is not a country but nation within the nation ,just go for Plebescite in Kashmir,nagaland ,Tripura <Gorkha land,dalitstan.time is not faraway when all nation will get librated from hindu led government.USSR was very strong ,what had happened ,your days are numberd dear HH.

      • Shankar said

        you clearly are a separatist and needs to be treated as those enemies of the state in J&K and others. You sick fuck

  2. mesquiteice said

    Dalit Nation,

    You said”Dalits deviating from Ambedkar’s buddhism will pay the price and come under the yoke of Brahminical castesim”.

    Dont threaten others. Talk sense

  3. Damodar said

    “Adi Shankaracharya, the wily Brahmin pygmy priest destroyed Buddhism with the help of kings like Pushyamitra Sunga.”

    Oh oh. Sungas and Shankaracharya were separated by atleast four centuries. Great Scholarship. I am extremely impressed.

  4. SanJam said

    whoever wrote this piece of dog-shit, must realize that tibetans revere dalai lama. they have been practicing buddhism for last few centuries. BUT WAIT A MINUTE.
    THIS JERK OF AN AUTHOR, CLAIMS THAT DR AMBEDKAR TAUGHT THE REAL BUDDHISM.
    SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH THE BRAINS OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH DALITNATION.
    THESE PEOPLE ARE MORONS AND USELESS FAGGOTS.
    I WONDER WHO HAS THE BALLS TO CONDEMN THE DALAI LAMA. HE IS A SPIRITUAL LEADER. AND BELIEVE ME TIBETANS WILL NOT TAKE ANY BRANDING APPLIED TO THE DALAI LAMA.
    ITS A HORRIBLE TERRIBLE AND SINISTER MIND WHO CAN SPEW SHIT ON ANYBODY.
    DALIT NATION,,, YOU ARE A BUNCH OF SHITHEADS!

    • Shankar said

      These people who run this website have a very destructive, separatist and anti-indian mindset. They need a separate country for themselves. All the ancient references they provide are nothing but crap. They are operating their philosophies and ideas based on some bullshit history written by themselves. I agree that there were a lot n lot of discrimination amongst classes, but that era is long gone. Everybody is getting opportunities based on their merits.
      These people don’t want it. they want reservation based on caste and not merit. They are also seeking reservation in the private sector. If you really have talent and merit, why do you seek reservation?

  5. Buddha said

    This is one most irrational site I have seen. You guys if you hates somebody, leave it there. Why you create concoction of crazy imaginations into articles.
    No wonder Brahmins will be laughing happily- Some will be praising them including themselves. The people like dalitnation, will also be always thinking about them different way. So they definitely feel supremw-WHY NOT?

    Now it is your turn to give bad words abusing me. Good luck!!!!

  6. Karthikeyan said

    “The monks had exploited the toiling Tibetian masses, the dalits of Tibet for centuries through the rule of Dalai Lama and the corrupt regents.” — Original blog.

    What a great comedy!! These hollow heads have created Dalits even in China!! They’re in a mission to create Dalit world it seems!! Beginning from Dalit Nation 😀

    They haven’t left Pandit Nehru, Ambedkar, and even Lama!!

    Buddha is considered Mahathma in our culture. And nowhere I’ve learnt that Buddha was incarnation of Vishnu. This isn’t true, or atleast, isn’t evidenced from the puranas.

    These cooked stories are ridiculous. (Refer: Hindu Gurus and Tibetan Lamas worked to counter “Ambedkar Buddhists” in the original post). There is nothing called “Ambedkar Buddhism”. All that is there is Buddhism shown by Mahathma Gauthama Buddha, which this Dalit Nation had ridiculed in other posts (post titled “Beware of Meditation”). The real killers of Buddhism is the gang calling itself as “Dalit Nation”.

    We Indians are strong. We won’t disintegrate by such kind of ridiculous provocations.

  7. happy-h said

    Dalitnation and Chumber:

    You named a person who is highly respected in the whole world except China – and you insulted him with allegations like this.

    These are the following charges that will be slapped against you:

    1) 499. Defamation: for hurting the personal integrity of HH, the Dalai Lama.

    2) 500: Punishment for defamation: for alleging that He transferred his loot to Swiss banks.

    2) 499: Defamation: of Nehru, Ravi Shankar, Shankaracharaya, Swami Narayana, the Veershaivas community.

    4) 501: Printing or engraving matter known to be defamatory for all above.

    5) 126: Committing depredation on territories of Power at peace with the Government of India: For inciting divisions and playing with the emotions of the Tibetan Refugees in India.

    6) 153B: Imputations, assertions prejudicial to national integration: For causing disharmony between members of religious communities to cause feelings of enmity or ill-will between such members and other persons.
    And for prohibitting the performance of religious worship or religious ceremonies.

    7) 5*295A: Deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs.

    8) 298: Uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings.

    9) 503: Criminal intimidation: For making misuse of SC status to file a case against me.

    10) 504: Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace: for repeatedly insulting religious sentiments.

    11) 509: Word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman: for wrongly quoting the Manusmirthi with the right to rape with the intension to intice women of a particular community into politically prescribed forced marriage.

    You are answerable for hurting the Freedom of Conscience and Freedom to freely practice religion: http://indiacode.nic.in/coiweb/fullact1.asp?tfnm=00

  8. Poornaprajna said

    The biggest lie propogated by leftist and missionary historians is that the Brahmins destroyed Buddhism. Not that these people have any great affinity to Buddhism. They are too far away from Buddha and his teachings than anyone else. This demonization of Brahmins is done with the sole aim of discrediting the Brahmins that they had no noteworthy culture. A typical ploy first used by Vatican and then by the communists, of disenfranchising the Indegenous cultures so that they become easy Game. Since the Brahmins were a difficult people for the Missionaries for conversion they had no option but to use all these sinster ploys. Also the very nature of missionary monotheistic religions (including the non religious communism) does not allow divergent belief systems. The essential Idea is social engineering to get everyone beleive in what they consider to be the only true way and philosophy.

    Some of the people like Ambedkar, VT Rajashekar, Kancha Ilaiah and Dalit Nation just assume that Brahmins destroyed Buddhism based on this concocted history which has no shred of evidence. There is absolutely nothing original in the thinking of these people. And then they go about building all kinds of nonsensical stories and they hope that the mob and the population numbers which they assume to represnt will get them the needed political power. Thats politics lets talk about facts. Politics again in a nutshell is most of the time if not at all times based on hatred.

    It is true by the time of Adi Shankara the Buddhist religion had degenerated. Materialism had inflitrated the Buddhist Monkhood and it had become hedonistic. There are many references in vedantic scriptures about the Hedonistic attitude of Buddhist monks at the time of Shankara. The Monkhood swung from asceticism and hedonism and found it difficult to get to the balanced middle way of Buddha. Apart from that the Buddhist Monkhood depended completely on state patronage which was dwindling and later the Islamic invaders smashed all the remanant Buddhist traditions. Also it is clear that the Majority of the Buddhist monks throughout the Buddhist history of India from the time of Buddha till Chandrakirti, Saraha etc came from the Brahmin community.

    All Shankara did was provide a more persuasive stream of thinking which the Buddhists of India at that time accepted. The backbone of Buddhism was the Sangha which was essentially the male dominated Monkhood. When the Sangha collapsed and did not have new recruits it just became insignificant.

    Shankaracharya was a parivrajaka Sanyasi very similar to the Buddhist renunciates, ajivikas and many others. There were many streams of such people throughout India. These are recorded in Shankara Digvijaya and many other narratives. Shankara debated with many Buddhist, Jaina, Ajivikas, Mimasakas, Charvakas etc and persuaded many into his school of advaitha vedanta. He was no politician or an emperor nor did he associate himself with any of them. It is also very clear from Shankara’s debates that most of the people from these schools except the jainas were from the Brahmin community. Essentially they were the intellectual pockets of India.The later Vaishnava acharyas like Ramanuja and Madhava accused Shankara as a disguised Buddhist (Prachhana Boudha, Dalit nation check it out in Madva’s commentary on Upanishads, Brahma Sutra and the Geetha) . Not for them the monkhood hence they worshipped and revered the insitutions of marriage and normal social formations. Not for nothing did they revive the worship of Krishna and Radha, or the ideal rama and sita. None of these gods Krishna and Rama were sanyasis. They were practical people in a way represented the best of Human emotions as was pervelant at that time in the soceity. The institution of Buddhist Sangha, the sanyasis and parivraja had made the Indians impractical and other worldly.

    The assumption that Dalits in India were originally Buddhists or Jains is completely baseless. There were just a miniscule number of people now termed dalits in Buddhist sangha even during the time of Gautama Buddha. Ambedkar concocted the story that Dalits were originally Buddhists. He of course borrowed profusely from the leftist historians like Kosambi and others prior to him. He also wanted to give a firm intellectual basis for the Dalits which was not available for them through any of their historical or social histories or narratives. It was a noteworthy effort in a way but he falsified many facts and infused vast doses of hatred against his enemy, the brahmin commnity. Dalit is a recent social formation and it is a huge pot pourri of different clans, tribes and communities. Most of these communities have followed primitive tribal laws and have worshipped zoomorphic dieties. When there was more admixture of these tribes the popular hindusim resulted which incorporated the zoomorphic dieties into its fold. Dalits in a way have no historical links whatsover with Buddhism or Jainism. However it is amply clear that many modern day brahmins are descendents of Buddhists. One simple fact will prove that. Most of the Buddhist names you can see in the early Buddhist scriptures were exclusive Brahmin names till very recently. No other community except the Brahmins or Jains had these names. Now of course many are common Hindu names. Names like Chandra, Keerthi, Poorna, Prajna, Paramitha, Even Buddha, Siddhartha, Gautama, Vimala, Kamala, padma, thathagatha, nagarjuna, ashvagosha – these were exclusive Brahmin names till a few decades ago. But now these names have become pervalent across everyone but again still predominantly brahmin.

    It is okay for the Dalits to bemoan the demise of Buddhism in india as there was a higher ethical philosophy in the Buddhist scriptures which was overshadowed later by inhuman practices resulting out of the admixture of races, tribes and cultures. The yoga sutras of Patanjali and many vedantic scriptures has a high ethical philosophy. But the soceity lost all these for various reasons. On top of these the country was plundered time and again by invaders. So it is a bit strange that sub altern Muslims and Christians in India who have absolutely no reverence for Buddha or his philosophy shout and scream this Brahmins versus Buddhist fairy tale. They don’t realize there is hardly anything in common between Buddhism and their monoitheistic beleifs. A Brahmin subscribing to vedanta or any other darshana or agama shastra can easily draw a link to the Buddhist tradition. There are even Buddhist agamas and Jain Agamas. There are of course several ontological differences between say advaitha vedantha and Buddhism. But there are ontological differece between dwaitha vedanta, vishistadaitha vedanta and sankhya as well. But the broader philosophical semantics remain more or less the same across all these traditions including vedanta, jainism and buddhism.

    I agree with Dalit nation that Dalai Lama finds it easy to associate himself with brahmins, that is because there has been an unbroken connection between Lhasa and Varanasi. Of course it doesn’t mean that Dalai Lama does not associate with other people. The DL has been in the forefront of inter religious / inter community dialogue for peace and reconciliation and associates with everyone including the communists. The ancient and also the modern association between the tibetian lamas and brahmins cannot be denied. My great grandfather a vedanta and Ayurvedic scholar had visited Lhasa and stayed in a Buddhist monastery in the decade of 1900s. Many sanyasis of the vedantic tradition have visited tibet to learn higher arts. Swami Rama had visited Tibet and stayed and studied in Buddhist monastries of Lhasa. The great yoga teacher (also called the teacher of teachers) Sri Krishnamacharya learnt many secrets of yoga in Tibet during his wandering days. These are just a few examples there were very many more such people who travelled from and to these places. Kailash Manasarovar is revered for both the Tibetian Lamas and Vedantis and Shaivas. They have different myths associated with this Mountain. It is customary every year when the piligrims from india and tibet congregate before starting their ceremonies the Sanyasis and Lamas pay respect to each others with utmost reverence. Later they go their own ways with one chanting vedas and the other intoning the buddhist chants. There is absolutely no conflict in evidence between the two groups and all one can see is reverence to each other and respect for their differences. This is an unbroken tradition since centuries. I had the good fortune to witness this in 2002 and this was filmed by Discovery channel as well. So why all this brahmin bashing under the guise of Buddhism, were not the Indian exports to Tibet – Shantideva, Atisha, Naropa, Saraha brahmins. If in doubt check out the tibetian buddhist scriptures. So stop this nonsense tirade on Brahmins it has no substance just the rantings of an ignoramus.

  9. happy-h said

    Wonderful to read this Poornaprajna. Was aware abt budhist-brahmin interaction, but surprised at the extent of interaction as described by you. Thanks much for the post, Poornaprajna. Suppose you do not mind, i wud be interested in knowing abt your g-grandfather stay and life abt Lhasa as he saw it….how was it…

    Its curious how faith is decided in diff individuals….why people the world over have been struggling to accomodate one another based on each one’s personal version of faith…and why politics is brought into the picture to fit the other person out..

    Ppl say that with more insights coming from behavorial genetics, it may be possible to offer explanations why predisposition to spirituality varies so much in diff people. But this ‘god gene’ idea has its set of critics….though it appears like somethings in people are perhaps hard-wired indeed…like say a man has parivraja yogam? inclinations of renunciation cannot be helped..perhaps it is in his dna. by an ancient inheritance? because of lives lived before by the soul or bcoz of the lives (pitrus / ancestors) inherited by the man?

    there does seem to be a inherent prob with those that ‘market’ faith…its hard to think that anyone can decide any one’s faith – they can profoundly or life-changingly influence yes, but not ‘decide’…that ‘decide’ part is too much within..with the ‘god gene’ at work. Some are able to get that trancendent state out of the mind, but some are not able to get…possibly its the ‘gene’ that is the ‘deciding’ factor…then there will be ppl who will also perceive and understand things as per their genes, and go on to debate whether its a good thing or not a good thing to have this god-gene…

    while we say the world can be a much better place without people like kancha, rajshekar, chumber, dalitnation…one wonders – why are they meant to be there…

  10. Karthikeyan said

    Great research work Poornaprajna!! A public forum is meant to be like this only. Not like the other comments full of abuses and ill languages. Thanks for such a great info.

  11. mesquiteice said

    Dalit nation,

    you said “He is no friend of the Dalits but a Brahmin stooge who visits all brahmin ashrams like Ramanashram, Osho Commune or Kanchi Kamakoti peetam or the art of decieving guru Sri Sri Ravishankar”

    You seem to have a obsession to write faster than you think! All the ashrams that you refer to serve everybody without any reservation.

    AFTERALL YOU SEEM TO BE A STOOGE OF FOREIGN FUNDAMENTALIST SPONSORS WANTING TO WEAKEN INDIA.

  12. h-h said

    mesquiteice,

    anything that is hindu is brahmin according to dalitnation. Atleast now it is clear that their intension is not anti-poverty or pro-buddhism, instead it is anti-india and anti-hindu.

    can’t help reading poornaprajna’s wonderful post again and again since yesterday…has certainly wetted the interest to seek more info on hindu-buddhist interaction.

  13. Poornaprajna said

    Thanks happy-h for your kind words. I will post more details on Buddhism in ancient India. The marxist historian D.D. Kosambi clearly mentioned that Buddhism declined in India because it was uneconomical. The Buddhist monkhood was a white elephant on the agrarian economy of medieval indian kingdoms. The Brahmins however were part of the production process and had a very well defined astrological almanac to predict monsoon etc. I posted Kosambi’s article from his Exasperating Essays but Dalitnation did not publish. I will try once more. Kosambi of course was a Hindu Baiter and he did back it with evidence and rational arguments. Howver most of the modern day Hindu baiters like Kancha Iliaih who more or less try to plagiarize and try to copy writers like Kosambi but add amazing doses of fiction and Hidden agenda (usually the christian missionary) in their narratives. Hence they loose all credibility and originality in any decent academic discourse.

  14. Poornaprajna said

    The Decline of Buddhism In India

    From the Book “Exasperating Essays” by D.D. Kosambi

    The Chinese pilgrim Hiuen Chuang (830 A.D.) saw images that had sunk into the damp Indian soil, and was told local prophecies to the effect that the religion of the Teacher would vanish completely when the image had sunk out of sight altogether. Shashanka, king of Bengal who had systematically destroyed Buddhist religious structures, cut down and burned the sacred tree at Gaya under which the Buddha had attained enlightenment twelve centuries earlier. The tree was soon nursed back to growth from a sprout discovered by Purnavarman, the last descendant of Ashoka. Harsha repulsed Shashanka, restored the devastated Buddhist foundations, and built many new ones. Monasteries by the thousand still housed and fed a vast army of monk. The richly endowed University of Nalanda was at the zenith of its fame. All seemed well.

    The real damage came from within, and may be discerned in the report of the same Chinese traveler, though he was perhaps not conscious of what his words signified: “(The Buddhist scholar who) can explain three classes (of sacred texts) has allotted to him different servants to attend and obey him….He who can explain five classes is then allotted an elephant carriage. Who can explain six classes of books is given a surrounding escort…. If one of the assembly distinguish himself (in disputations) by refined language, subtle investigation, deep penetration, and severe logic, then he is mounted on an elephant covered with precious ornaments, and conducted by a numerous suite to the gates of the abbey. If, on the contrary, one of the
    disputants breaks down in his argument, or uses poor and inelegant phrases, or if he violates a rule in logic, they proceed to disfigure his face with red and white, and cover his body with dirt and dust, and then carry him of to some deserted spot or leave him in a ditch. Thus they distinguish between the meritorious and the worthless, between the wise and the foolish.”
    This was surely not the way merit had been judged in the days of the Buddha. The original function of the ever-wandering almsmen had been to explain the way of righteousness to all, in the simplest possible words, and the languages of the common people. The new class of disputatious residents of wealthy monasteries cared nothing for the villagers whose surplus product maintained them in luxury. The original rules laid dorm and followed by the Buddha had permitted only the mendicant’s trifling possessions without even the touch of gold, silver or ornaments. The Buddhas of Ajanta are depicted wearing jewelled crowns, or seated upon the costliest thrones. Similarly, the old Buddhism had turned Ashoka away from war to the path of peace. His edicts state that the army would henceforth be used only for spectacles and parades.

    The devout emperor Harsha, on the other hand, managed to reconcile war with Buddhism just as he reconciled hip worship of the Sun god and Maheshwar. Harsha’s army increased during thirty years of constant, aggressive warfare, to 64000 elephants, 104000 cavalry, and a
    still larger number of foot soldiers. He was Buddhist enough to forgive the assassin whom he had disarmed, when the assembled kings and nobles demanded the death punishment. The common people, who had to pay for his wars and for the triumphal pageantry, might have preferred his putting the assassin to death and idling less people on fewer battlefields.
    In a word, Buddhism had become uneconomic. The innumerable monasteries and their pampered inmates were a counterpart of the costly military establishment. Buddhism had, from the very beginning, favored the growth of a universal monarchy, which would stop petty warfare. The
    Buddha is chakkravartin, spiritual counterpart of the emperor. But such great, personally administered empires had themselves become uneconomic;
    Harsha’s was about the last of the sort in India. Thereafter, kingdoms were much smaller till feudalism from below gave the state a new basis of feudal landowners. The administration gradually drifted into the hands of a feudal hierarchy growing from below with new (feudal) property rights in land.
    The village defeated both the empire and the organized religion that accompanied it. The self-contained village was hereafter the norm of production. Taxes had to be collected in kind, and consumed locally, for there was not enough trade to allow their conversion into cash. Transport of grain and raw material over long distances would have been most difficult under medieval Indian conditions. Harsha traveled constantly with court and army, through his extensive domains. The Chinese pilgrim states that Indians rarely used coins for trade, which was conducted by barter. This seems confirmed by the absence of coins struck by Harsha, which contrasts with the tremendous hoards of punch-merited coins that had circulated under
    the Mauryans.

    Buddhism owed its initial success precisely to its fulfillment of a great social need. Society in the Gangetic basin of the 8th century B.C. was not organized into peaceful villagers producing mostly for themselves. The much thinner population was divided into a set of warring semi-tribal
    principalities and some tribes not yet on the level of agrarian production with the plough. Vedic Brahminism and tribal cults were fit only for the pastoral tribe at war with all neighbors. The Vedic animal sacrifices were far too onerous for a developing agrarian economy. The thin pre-Mauryan settlement required trade in metals, salt, and cloth over long distances, which
    could not be conducted without the protection of a powerful state. The passage from a group of tribes to a universal society, therefore, needed a new social philosophy.
    That the universal monarchy and the religion of the universal society were parallel is proved by the rise of both in Magadha, at about the same time. Not only Buddhism, but also numerous other contemporary Magadhan sects preached about the same thing: the Jains, Ajivikas, and others all denied the validity of Vedic sacrifice, and the need for killing. Buddhism accompanied
    and protected the first traders into wild country, peopled by savage tribes. This is shown by the ancient monuments at Junnar, Karle, Nasik, Ajanta, and elsewhere on the junctions of primitive trade routes.
    The major civilizing function of Buddhism had ended by the seventh century A.D. The ahimsa doctrine was universally admitted, if not practiced. Vedic sacrifices had been abandoned except by some rare princeling whose revivalist attempt had little effect upon the general economy. The new problem was to induce docility in the village cultivators, without an excessive use of force. This was done by religion, but not by Buddhism The class structure in the villages appeared as caste, always scorned by the Buddhists. Primitive tribesmen were enrolled as new castes. Both tribesman and peasant relied heavily upon ritual, which the Buddhist monk was
    forbidden to practice; ritual remained a monopoly of the Brahmin.
    Moreover, the Brahmin at that time was a pioneer who could stimulate production, for he had a good working calendar for predicting the times of ploughing, sowing, and harvest. He knew something of new crops, and trade possibilities. He was not a drain upon production as had been his sacrificing ancestors, or the large Buddhist monasteries. A compromise could also be
    affected by making the Buddha an avatara of Vishnu. So formal Buddhism inevitably faded away.
    Its main lesson need never be lost: that good thoughts require cultivation and training of the mind by the individual’s personal efforts, no less carefully than good singing that of the voice or craftsmanship that of the hand. The value of the thoughts, on the other hand, is to be judged by the social advance, which they encourage.

  15. happy-hin said

    Poornaprajna,

    Again, i have no words to thank you for this wonderful post. Will be reading this post a few times again.

    In a documentary saw that Confucianism made China so peace-loving with all its warriors put to disuse that it opened up the path for easy invasions.

    Perhaps the Buddhist hangover despite the Hindu-revival is what made India weakened and open to the Islamic attacks.

    Regards.

  16. C .L . CHUMBER said

    WHY NOT BRAHMANS / HINDUS MADE INDIA STRONG TO STOP MUSLIMS ?
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr.Happy Hindu said ( September 16, 2008 @ 10:27 am ) ,” Perhaps the Buddhist hangover despite the Hindu-revival is what made India weakened and open to the Islamic attacks.”
    The Hindus blamed the Buddhists but the Hindus/ Brahmans co-operated the Muslims especially Mohammad Bin Kasim to conquer Sind state .Now a Brahman Prime Minister Mr. Narsimha Rao invited the foreign companies to strengthen the friendship of Brahmanism and capitalism at international level and counter the real democratic forces .
    The Brahman community is never ethical .They may kill Mahatma Gandhi and even poisoned Swami Dayanand Saraswati .Their incarnation theory is to use and throw .They invited Muslims to weaken Kashatriya politically and religiously ! If they wish to strengthen India , they must have to discard the Rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods as well as caste / varna system !!!!!

  17. C .L . CHUMBER said

    RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS CAN NOT BE TRUE GODS .THERE FOLLOWERS ARE ALSO HAVING RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST BENT OF MINDS ! YOU MAY CALL YOUR RELIGION ” RAPIST-RACIST-FASCIST-GODS`RELIGION “. !!!!! YOU PEOPLE ARE SHAMELESS HAVING WORSHIPING SHAITAN GODS !!!!! YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING A TRUE RELIGION . YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE ARISTOCRATE , ANARCHY AND AUTHORITATIVE RELIGION .YOUR RELIGION IS BASED ON CRUELITY , CORRUPTION ( SEXUAL ) AND COMMUNALISM . yOUR GODS ARE VIOLENT , VIRUS AND VEMON FOR NON-BRAHMANS . YOU ARE THREATENING ME TO ELEMINATE ME PHYSICALLY .THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN ? THEN THE CHARGES OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ON YOUR EVIL GODS WILL BE EVAPORATED ?
    YOUR ARROGANCE ENCOURAGES ME THAT I HAVE ARISED THE RIGHT ISSUES WHICH ARE MAIN HURDELS IN THE OVER ALL MENTAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTRY .I WILL NEVER BE THE STOOGE OF THE FOLLOWERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! I WILL THROW THE RAPIST , RACIST AND RACIST EVIL GODS IN THE GUTTER BECAUSE WE ABORGINAL INDIANS ARE DETERMINED TO ESTABLISH THE INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL SPIRIT IN TRUE SENSE . WE WISH TO AVAIL EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE FROM INCEPTION TO ONWARDS .NOTHING ELSE .

  18. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPY HINDU`S FAMILY LADIES WILL ALSO GIVE SURETY THAT I HAD NEVER RAPED ANY LADY IN THE UNVERSE !!!!!
    DEAR VIEWERS ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu ( Dukhi Ram ) @ H said ( September 5, 2008 @ 11:21 am),” Yes i know that. Problem is you do not.And you can be handled only in your way, not anyone else’s way.I HAVE DECIDED TO CALL YOU RAPIST, RACIST and FASCIST.See, how much you are teaching me to go much below your own level? ”
    My answer is : – I had never used abusive language .I had not handeled any one by this filthy way . I am neither racist nor fascist . I had not invented caste / varna like filthy system . I respect the all women like my mother , sisters and daughters . I never visited Mr.Happy Hindu`s sweet home , then how he blamed me as rapist .I am fighting against the rapists , racists and fascists and Mr. Happy Hindu is Dukhi Ram due to my stand .Actually he is the standless as well as senseless !!!!!

  19. happyhindu-hh said

    I had never used abusive language .I had not handeled any one by this filthy way . I am neither racist nor fascist . I had not invented caste / varna like filthy system . I respect the all women like my mother , sisters and daughters . I never visited Mr.Happy Hindu`s sweet home , then how he blamed me as rapist .I am fighting against the rapists , racists and fascists and Mr. Happy Hindu is Dukhi Ram due to my stand .Actually he is the standless as well as senseless !!!!!
    —————

    1) Yes i appreciate that you did not retort with abusing a person personally.

    2) You are talking like a fool / nonsense while talking about visiting home, fighting rapists, etc. All this nonsense is in your senseless mind.

    Actually you are not a senseless guy. You are a very sensible one. But you are a shrewd baiter being used by ppl like Rajshekar to do a mullah job.

  20. happyhind said

    I had not invented caste / varna like filthy system .
    ———–

    Yes, you have re-invented the caste / varna filthy system. You are anti-constitutional.

    ——————
    I respect the all women like my mother , sisters and daughters . I never visited Mr.Happy Hindu`s sweet home , then how he blamed me as rapist .I am fighting against the rapists , racists and fascists and Mr. Happy Hindu is Dukhi Ram due to my stand .Actually he is the standless as well as senseless !!!!!
    ——————–

    I really cannot understand what are you talking about visiting home. I do not consider you a good man anymore, where is the question of someone like you visiting home?

    You are rambling like a senseless person of non-sane memory.

  21. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    Please answer POORNAPRAJAS post. this post about dalai lama is wrong. please condemn

  22. SanJam said

    MY FRIENDS ADVISED ME TO ASK YOUR ADDRESS AND RAPE WITH YOU SO THAT YOU MAY WORSHIP ME ALSO BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE HABITUAL TO WORSHIP THE RAPIST GODS AS WELL AS YOU MAY HAVE A PROOF TO FILE A SUIT AGAINST ME !!!!! NOW I WILL SPEAK IN YOUR VAIDIK ABUSIVE LANGUAGE SO THAT YOU MAY UNDERSTAND ME VERY WELL !!!!!

    ————————-

    chumber,,, you are not only a filthy mongrel but you are also suffering from rabies!
    if your forefathers behaved the way you are behaving,, then its quite possible that they were not allowed to live in the society. such howling mangy rascals should be excommunicated. hmmm,,, now i get the point why you guys were outcastes and exploited.

    YOU NEVER EVOLVED WITH THE CIVILIZATION. A MAJOR PART OF YOU IS STILL AN ANIMAL!

    LISTEN, BASTARD,, OR I DONT KNOW HOW MANY FATHERS YOU HAVE,,, KEEP YOUR RAPE AND REST OF YOUR FUCKED UP HABITS TIED TO YOUR BALLS,,, UNLESS YOU WANT ME AND REST OF THE IRATE PACK TO FLOG YOU IN PUBLIC AND DEMONSTRATE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU KEEP SPEWING SHIT FROM YOUR MOUTH.

    YOU ARE A PESKY STRAY DOG,,, A PETTY JERK….

  23. C .L . CHUMBER said

    Mr. SANJAM PROOVE THAT I AM RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST OHERWISE – –

    ” you are not only a filthy mongrel but you are also suffering from rabies!
    if your forefathers behaved the way you are behaving,, then its quite possible that they were not allowed to live in the society. such howling mangy rascals should be excommunicated. hmmm,,, now i get the point why you guys were outcastes and exploited.

    ” YOU NEVER EVOLVED WITH THE CIVILIZATION. A MAJOR PART OF YOU IS STILL AN ANIMAL!
    LISTEN, BASTARD,, OR I DONT KNOW HOW MANY FATHERS YOU HAVE,,, KEEP YOUR RAPE AND REST OF YOUR FUCKED UP HABITS TIED TO YOUR BALLS,,, UNLESS YOU WANT ME AND REST OF THE IRATE PACK TO FLOG YOU IN PUBLIC AND DEMONSTRATE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU KEEP SPEWING SHIT FROM YOUR MOUTH.
    YOU ARE A PESKY STRAY DOG,,, A PETTY JERK….” ( IN sANJAM`S WRITING sEPTEMBER 21, 2008 . )

  24. C .L . CHUMBER said

    NOW EVERY ONE WILL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE WELL . MR. HAPPY HINDU SHOULD ALSO ASK HIS FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT IF MR. C. L. CHUMBER IS RAPIST OR NOT ! OTHERWISE I WILL FIND HIS HOME , I WILL ASK MR. HAPPY HINDU`S FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS WHETHER i AM RACIST , RAPIST AND FASCIST OR NOT .

  25. shemhinduhappy said

    NOW EVERY ONE WILL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE WELL . MR. HAPPY HINDU SHOULD ALSO ASK HIS FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT IF MR. C. L. CHUMBER IS RAPIST OR NOT ! OTHERWISE I WILL FIND HIS HOME , I WILL ASK MR. HAPPY HINDU`S FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS WHETHER i AM RACIST , RAPIST AND FASCIST OR NOT .
    ——————

    you reply to Sanjam. Why are you writing to me. Anyways, I am providing your email addresses to Sanjam:
    c.l.chumber@gmail.com and cl_chumber@yahoo.com

    Sanjam is consulting lawyers. Am into petitioning. Hope you know the difference between the two.

  26. hinduhappy-hh said

    NOW EVERY ONE WILL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE WELL . MR. HAPPY HINDU SHOULD ALSO ASK HIS FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT IF MR. C. L. CHUMBER IS RAPIST OR NOT ! OTHERWISE I WILL FIND HIS HOME , I WILL ASK MR. HAPPY HINDU`S FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS WHETHER i AM RACIST , RAPIST AND FASCIST OR NOT .
    ———————

    Chumber, you reply to Sanjam. He wrote that. Why are you writing to me?

    Sanjam is using lawyers to go one-to-one with you. But i am doing the longer route that is mass petitioning.

    Why do you need to go around asking people what you are. You know what you are, don’t you?

  27. C .L . CHUMBER said

    MR.HAPPY HINDU & MR. SANJAM ! HINDUS WILL HAVE TO DISCARD THEIRS GODS OR SCRIPTURES TO WASH THE BLOTS ON THEIRS FACES OF WORSHIPING RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!

    I AM READY FOR LEGAL OR PUBLIC OPINION BATTLES SO THAT THE RAPIST , RACIST AND RACIST EVIL GODS MAY BE EXPOSED NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVELS !!!!! I REQUEST YOU TO DO WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR THE DEFENCE OF YOUR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!! NOW YOU ALL HAVE CONFESSED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS BURNT THE MANU-SIMRITY . THEN THE JUDGE WILL ASK YOU THE PROBLEM IN DISCARDING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! HE WILL ASK YOU WETHER YOU RECOGNIZE THE EVIL GODS OR YOUR SCRIPTURES ? ? ? ? ?
    IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE SCRIPTURES THEN YOUR SCRIPTURES ESTABLISH THAT BRAHMA, VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS ARE RAPISTS , RASCISTS AND FASCISTS AND YOU HAVE TO DISCARD THESE EVIL GODS !!!! THE SECOND CHOICE IS , IF YOU RECOGNIZE YOUR GODS THEN YOU HAVE TO DISOWN YOUR SCRIPTURES WHICH ESTABLISH YOUR GODS AS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! IT IS SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOSE YOUR GODS OR SCRIPTURES !!!!! COME ON !!!! MY TRUE GODS AS WELL TRUE PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE ARE WITH ME !!!!! MY MATAS VARINDA , SITA , RUKAMANI , SARASWATI AND MANY MORE PIOUS AND INNOCENT SAINT SHAMBUK LIKE WHO WERE KILLED BY YOUR EVIL GODS . !!!!!

  28. happihindu said

    NOW YOU ALL HAVE CONFESSED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS BURNT THE MANU-SIMRITY . THEN THE JUDGE WILL ASK YOU THE PROBLEM IN DISCARDING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! HE WILL ASK YOU WETHER YOU RECOGNIZE THE EVIL GODS OR YOUR SCRIPTURES ? ? ? ? ?
    IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE SCRIPTURES THEN YOUR SCRIPTURES ESTABLISH THAT BRAHMA, VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS ARE RAPISTS , RASCISTS AND FASCISTS AND YOU HAVE TO DISCARD THESE EVIL GODS !!!! THE SECOND CHOICE IS , IF YOU RECOGNIZE YOUR GODS THEN YOU HAVE TO DISOWN YOUR SCRIPTURES WHICH ESTABLISH YOUR GODS AS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! IT IS SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOSE YOUR GODS OR SCRIPTURES !!!!! COME ON !!!! MY TRUE GODS AS WELL TRUE PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE ARE WITH ME !!!!! MY MATAS VARINDA , SITA , RUKAMANI , SARASWATI AND MANY MORE PIOUS AND INNOCENT SAINT SHAMBUK LIKE WHO WERE KILLED BY YOUR EVIL GODS . !!!!!
    ———————–

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    You ONLY know Manusmrithi. That IS your ONLY problem.

    So by discarding scriptures, people will discard Gods is it? Now you know why i call you a Dumbedkar, don’t you?

  29. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    I believe it is none of you business to explain what you feel that Sanjam and HH will do.

    This is upto them. Why are you bothered.

    If you want to e-dialouge answer only the questions or respond to answers to your posts. Once you start understanding others, these things will go away on its own.

    You are now suffering because of your own deeds where you called others “Bloody Fool”, “Rapi*t”, “Raci*t” and “Faci*st”. You insulted freedom fighters and other people.

    Please dont forget that you abused karthikeyan and HH so much to start with. Now you are reaping the rewards.

    IF YOU SPREAD LOVE, YOU GET LOVE,
    IF YOU SPREAD HATERED, YOU WILL GET HATERED.

    Dont now cry like a baby. All you have to do is to stop abusing other religions and others gods. Talk logically.

    A CAT’s MEW will never become a LIONS ROAR. Dont think people are abusing you because you are great. Even criminals appear in headlines, that does not make them great. All generations of people will be taught not to behave like CHUMBER.

    EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS/COMMENTS; BUT NOT YOUR HATERED

  30. C .L . CHUMBER said

    THE TRIBUNE WROTE TWO EDITORIALS IN A DAY ON CORRUPTION IN JUDICIARY AND IN INDIA !

    Judges under scanner
    CBI probe in PF scam must be thorough

    The Supreme Court has rightly asked the CBI to investigate the multi-crore Ghaziabad Provident Fund scam allegedly involving 34 judges, including one Supreme Court and as many as 11 high court judges. The fact that the Bench headed by Justice Arijit Pasayat has directed the CBI to file a status report before it within three months suggests the apex court’s determination to get to the bottom of the case and ferret out the truth before taking further action. Indeed, following the PF scandal, the image of the judiciary has hit a new low because this is for the first time that a large number of judges have come under public suspicion. Shockingly, between 2003 and 2007, over Rs 23 crore was siphoned off by the officials from the general provident fund of Class III and IV employees of the Ghaziabad court. The money was allegedly used to procure expensive gifts such as television sets, air-conditioners, sofa sets and provide other services to judges and court officials across the country. If it turns out to be true, it will be a shame.

    Significantly, in the past few weeks, Chief Justice K.G. Balakrishnan has been playing a pro-active role to stem the rot in the higher judiciary. Very recently, he had written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recommending the impeachment of Justice Soumitra Sen of the Calcutta High Court. As court receiver, Justice Sen had reportedly collected Rs 24.57 lakh between 1993 and 1995 and had transferred the entire money to his personal account. On the cash-at-door scam in Chandigarh, too, Justice Balakrishnan gave the green signal to the CBI to question a couple of judges to find out who was the High Court judge for whom Additional Advocate General of Haryana sent a packet of Rs 15 lakh. One of the judges, Ms Nirmal Yadav, was asked to go on leave soon after the scandal burst out causing shock waves.

    For the CBI, the PF scam and the cash-at-the-door scandal are major assignments requiring thorough investigation into the two serious cases involving judicial corruption. The confessional statement of Ashutosh Asthana, who was in charge of the Ghaziabad district court treasury, under Section 164 Cr PC will be important in the probe because he has supplied all the vouchers, receipts and original bills to expose the unholy nexus between the lower court staff and the judges under cloud. Hopefully, the CBI will do its job fairly without succumbing to pressure from any quarter because it is on the basis of its report that the Supreme Court will decide the nature of further actions which in turn might set precedents.

    The ugly face
    India’s image takes further beating

    With its economy growing at 8 per cent and an entry into the world’s nuclear club in the offing, it was expected that India, which was ranked the 72nd last year in the Corruption Perception Index, would redeem its position somewhat. But nothing of the sort has happened. In fact, exactly the opposite has taken place. It has now slipped to the 85th place on the index released by Transparency International. That was quite inevitable, considering the way wads of notes were waved during the trust vote of July 22 in the Lok Sabha, which is better remembered as a cash-for-votes ignominy. But that is not the only factor. Politicians have contributed in general too, and so have the babudom, the police and the judiciary. Since many of the recent events have not been taken into account, it would be no surprise if India’s image becomes more smudged, what with money being delivered to the house of even High Court judges.

    Some may try to take some comfort from the fact that the neighbours are even more deeply sunk into corruption. Sri Lanka (92), the Maldives (115), Nepal (121), Pakistan (134) and Bangladesh (147) are all in worse shape than us. But then Bhutan is several notches better at the 45th position. The 72nd slot that we occupied till last year has now gone to China. In any eventuality, we are very low in the world estimation because of corruption.

    The most corrupt is Somalia with rank 180. On the other end of the scale are the honest: Denmark, New Zealand and Sweden, which jointly share the first position as the least corrupt. These are followed immediately by Singapore, Finland, Switzerland, Iceland, the Netherlands, Australia and Canada. It is in the latter direction that India has to move. Among many things need to be done to earn better reputation for the country are: The Right to Information Act is put to good use and the long-pending pieces of legislation like the Corrupt Public Servants (Forfeiture of Property) Bill should be passed and MPs, MLAs and judges found corrupt weeded out of the system. India’s tragedy is that coalition era politics and blind rat race have led to greater erosion of values. The rot that is set in must be stopped.

    COURTESY : http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080925/edit.htm#1

  31. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    None of the above articles cast aspersions on the judiciary the way you do.

    We are also concered about this situation. But what you should understand is that the Judiciary is taking this seriously and correcting itself. The Chief Justice is taking steps to correct it.

    However, it you take the legislature. They dont even correct themselves. In fact the amount of corruption mentioned in the above posts is 95% because of politicians and not judicary.

    Dont jump like a snake to cast aspertions on the Judiciary.

    At least judiciary has self respect and is coming out to correct itself. Go and see what happened in the Lok Sabja during trust vote. They cames with notes and notes of money. No one even bothered.

    I am sure that when the pf scam is investigated there will certainly be a politician behind it.

    DONT PLAY BSP BASED POLITICS WITH JUDICIARY. If you have any problems with the Judiciary in KANSHI RAM CASE there is specific method provided in the Constitution. Why do you want to be unruly.

    If you want to be unruly go to jungle. Civilisation is about rules. If you have problems with rules, Jungle is the place.

  32. c.l.chumber said

    MANUWADI MINDED JUDICIARY KILLED BSP AS WELL AS ITS FOUNDER SHAHID-E-AZAM SAHIB KANSHI RAM TO ESTABLISH MANUWADI DUO MAYA-MISHRA !!!!!

  33. c.l.chumber said

    MR. SANJAM ! YOU HAPPY HINDUS ACCEPTED THAT – – –
    ( 1 ) YOU ARE AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM except Chumber .
    ( 2 ) YOU ALL BURNT MANU-SIMIRITY except Chumber .
    ( 3 ) YOU SAID CHUMBER IS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST .
    ( 4 ) YOU SAID THAT AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST .
    YOU PLEASE ESHTABLISH WHAT YOU SAID ?
    MR.SANJAM & m/S HAPPY HINDUS ! I WILL CONTINUE UNTIL I ESTABLISH THAT
    ( 1 ) BRAHMA INVENTED THE CASTE / VARNA EVER CRUELEST SOCIO-RELIGIOUS SYSTEM WHICH IS NOW BANNED BY DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !
    ( 2 ) VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS PROTECTED BRAHMA`S CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !
    ( 3 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA ,VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DESERTED THEIRS WIVES !
    ( 4 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST !
    ( 5 ) INDIAN CONSTITUTION IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS
    ( 6 ) HENCE THERE MUST BE BAN ON WORSHIPING RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS AS RELIGIOUS PERSONS .
    ( 7 ) HENCE THE PLACES WHERE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED BE DECLARED AS ANTI-CONSTITUTION ACTIVITIES CENTRES AND THEN BANNED ..

  34. mesquiteice said

    CHUMBER,

    What is the use of what you do. It is not worthy of a human being to involve in acts which infringe upon others beliefs giving reason based on comics and stories.

    Just like you believe your views so strongly. Others believe their views strongly.

    You have no legal, ethical or moral duty to establish points 1 to 7

    In fact you have a legal, ethical or moral duty not to establish poihts 1 to 7 because the constitution allows right to freedom of religion and also right to personal liberty.

    Your establishing points 1 to 7 is anti constitutional.

  35. happiyhindu said

    MR. SANJAM ! YOU HAPPY HINDUS ACCEPTED THAT – – –
    —————-

    Chumber,

    First, clarify whether you are writing to Sanjam or to me. If you are writing to me, then address specifically to me.

    Second abt this dumbedkar list:

    ( 1 ) BRAHMA INVENTED THE CASTE / VARNA EVER CRUELEST SOCIO-RELIGIOUS SYSTEM WHICH IS NOW BANNED BY DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !
    ( 2 ) VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS PROTECTED BRAHMA`S CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !
    ( 3 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA ,VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DESERTED THEIRS WIVES !
    ( 4 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST !
    ( 5 ) INDIAN CONSTITUTION IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS
    ( 6 ) HENCE THERE MUST BE BAN ON WORSHIPING RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS AS RELIGIOUS PERSONS .
    ( 7 ) HENCE THE PLACES WHERE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED BE DECLARED AS ANTI-CONSTITUTION ACTIVITIES CENTRES AND THEN BANNED ..
    ———-
    Good luck with the above.

    You yourself know whether you need an asylum or not.

  36. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I AM DOING MY JOB TO EXPOSE THE UNETHICAL AND ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL EVILS AND EVIL GODS !!!!!
    Dear VIEWERS ,
    Mr.Mesquiteice said ( September 29, 2008 @ 5:09 am ) , ” CHUMBER,What is the use of what you do. It is not worthy of a human being to involve in acts which infringe upon others beliefs giving reason based on comics and stories.
    MY ANSWER IS : – I DO MY ETHICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL JOB TO PIN POINT THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS BECAUSE A CIVILISED SOCIETY AND ANY PRESENT LAW OF THE LAND DO NOT PERMIT THESE EVILS .OUR EX HOME MINISTER OF INDIA MR. L. K. ADVANI ALSO DEMANDED A CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR THE RAPIST . THIS INSPIRED ME AGAINST THESE EVILS .IF WE DO NOT CONDEMN THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL PEOPLE THEN THE EVILS WILL INCREASE .THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION AND IPC HAVE PROVISIONS TO SENTENCE THESE EVILS .NEITHER THESE VIEWS ARE BASED ON COMICS NOR STORIES ! THESE ARE BASED ON YOUR GOOD SELF`S RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES !!!!! DO YOU BELIEVE IN THESE EVIL BELIEFS ?
    ( 2 ) Just like you believe your views so strongly. Others believe their views strongly.
    MY VIEWS ARE : MY BELIEVES ARE STRONGLY BASED ON THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION , IPC AND ETHICS !!!!!
    ( 3 ) You have no legal, ethical or moral duty to establish points 1 to 7
    In fact you have a legal, ethical or moral duty not to establish poihts 1 to 7 because the constitution allows right to freedom of religion and also right to personal liberty.Your establishing points 1 to 7 is anti constitutional.
    MY ANSWER IS :- MY 1-7 POINTS , I REPEAT AGAIN AS BELOW : –
    ( 1 ) BRAHMA INVENTED THE CASTE / VARNA EVER CRUELEST SOCIO-RELIGIOUS SYSTEM WHICH IS NOW BANNED BY DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !
    ( 2 ) VISHANU AND ITS INCARNATIONS PROTECTED BRAHMA`S CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !
    ( 3 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA ,VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DESERTED THEIRS WIVES !
    ( 4 ) ALMOST ALL THE EVIL GODS INCLUDING BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS WERE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST !
    ( 5 ) INDIAN CONSTITUTION IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS
    ( 6 ) HENCE THERE MUST BE BAN ON WORSHIPING RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS AS RELIGIOUS PERSONS .
    ( 7 ) HENCE THE PLACES WHERE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED BE DECLARED AS ANTI-CONSTITUTION ACTIVITIES CENTRES AND THEN BANNED ..”
    WHICH IS THE ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL POINT ? ? ? ? ?

  37. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    I am not telling that the gods are good either.

    All that i am telling is that we should be tolarant to others. What you feel evil is good to someone else.

    Just like some feel that reservations are evil while some feel it is good.
    Some feel M.K.gandhi is good while some feel M.K. gandhi was bad
    Some feel Ambedkar was good while some feel Ambedkar was bad

    These opinions are personal to each person.

    Supppose one guy is convicted of murder, what is the use of abusing his grandson, great grandson and so on of having a convicted grandad.

    As far as legal is concerned, I request HH to repost his compilation of the legal sections that he had posted earlier.

    As far as ethics is concerned, each person know what is good and bad. Who are you to impose your ideas on others. How will you feel if someone abuses your father like the way you abuse others gods.

    What you are telling may be true, but still it is not ethical to hurt others sentiments.

    How bad you will feel when people abuse ambedkar- who is your champion. You are fighting tooth and nail to protect your own imagination that ambedkar was a great person that is why you want to worship him.

    Similarly some people like alexander, hitler etc. who are you to tell that they should not worship them because they killed many people and were murderers.

    More over what you are telling is based on comical charecters. Suppose I ask you to prove that valmiki / rama / krishna existed can you prove it. When the existance itself if a question, where does your allegations of them being bad stand?

    What dont you understand that stories can never help us.

    Just like movies the villan may actually be a good guy in his real life but people think that he is a bad guy because he acts like a villian. Is this correct? whereas the hero may not be a good guy in real life.

    DONT TRY TO REASON OUT STORIES/COMICS/MOVIES. These are imaginary not real

  38. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MY FOREMOST JOB IS TO EXPOSE EVIL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! IS THEIR ANY OTHER BIG JOB THAN EXPOSING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ? ? YOU ALREADY CLAIMED THAT EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM EXCEPT CHUMBER .THEN WHY NOT YOU HATE THESE EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ? ? MR. HAPPY HINDUS ! COMMON MAN IS FED UP WITH THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS !!!!!
    MR. HAPPY HINDUS ! THIS IS NOT RAM RAJYA .NOW EVERY MARRIED OR UNMARRIED WOMAN HAS EQUAL RIGHTS LIKE MEN . NOW NO ONE CAN BANISH OR DIVORCE HIS WIFE ON HIS OWN WILL. THERE ARE COURTS TO DECIDE DIVORCE ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF THE LAND . RAMA WAS A DICTATORIAL KING . IN HIS KINGDOM THERE WAS NO APPEAL ,LAWYER AND REASONIG !!!!! THAT IS WHY SITA AND SAINT SHAMBUK WERE NOT INFORMED THEIR CRIMES !!!!! WILL YOU PEOPLE WISH TO RESTABLISH THIS TYPE RAM RAJY WHERE PIOUS AND INNOCENT SITA AND SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK WERE BANISHED AND MURDERED BY DICTATORIAL RAMA RESPECTIVELY .

  39. shemahinduhappy said

    Chumber:

    Following charges will be filed against you:

    1) 153B: Imputations, assertions prejudicial to national integration:

    [For supporting the british, calling freedom fighters as communal people, causing disharmony between members of various religious communities to cause feelings of enmity or ill-will between such members and other persons].

    2) 5-295A: Deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs.

    3 ) 298: Uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings.

    4) 503: Criminal intimidation:
    [For threatening to make misuse of your SC status to file a case against me].

    5) 504: Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace:
    [for repeatedly insulting religious sentiments].

    7) 509: Word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman:

    [for wrongly quoting the Manusmirthi with the right to rape with the intension to intice women of a particular community into politically prescribed forced marriages].

    Good Luck.

  40. shemahinduhappy said

    MY FOREMOST JOB IS TO EXPOSE EVIL RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!! IS THEIR ANY OTHER BIG JOB THAN EXPOSING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ? ?
    —————-

    So you are not against poverty as the biggest job.
    You are not against corruption.
    You do not want to build a better country with better roads, good water, uninteerrupted electricity, etc.
    So, ofcourse for this “foremost’ job of yours, you must be a dumbedkar.
    Even Ambedkar would have thrown you out.

    ——
    YOU ALREADY CLAIMED THAT EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM EXCEPT CHUMBER .THEN WHY NOT YOU HATE THESE EVIL GODS ? ? ? ? ? ? MR. HAPPY HINDUS ! COMMON MAN IS FED UP WITH THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS !!!!!
    ————

    My Gods did not rape, there was no racism and fascism during their time. You Lie and you ask us to hate.
    There is NO common man who is fed up of Gods.
    We are Fed up of Dumbedkars politicians like you.
    To save us from you people, we have to worship our Gods for protection.

    ——————————–
    MR. HAPPY HINDUS ! THIS IS NOT RAM RAJYA .NOW EVERY MARRIED OR UNMARRIED WOMAN HAS EQUAL RIGHTS LIKE MEN . NOW NO ONE CAN BANISH OR DIVORCE HIS WIFE ON HIS OWN WILL. THERE ARE COURTS TO DECIDE DIVORCE ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF THE LAND . RAMA WAS A DICTATORIAL KING . IN HIS KINGDOM THERE WAS NO APPEAL ,LAWYER AND REASONIG !!!!! THAT IS WHY SITA AND SAINT SHAMBUK WERE NOT INFORMED THEIR CRIMES !!!!! WILL YOU PEOPLE WISH TO RESTABLISH THIS TYPE RAM RAJY WHERE PIOUS AND INNOCENT SITA AND SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK WERE BANISHED AND MURDERED BY DICTATORIAL RAMA RESPECTIVELY .
    ——————-

    You do not know what is Ramarajya.
    Rama did not marry anyone ever again. This itself shows He loved Sita.
    Sita and Shambuk did not commit any crimes. There was no injustice done to them. You lie and lie because of your twisted thinking.

  41. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you are correct. THERE IS NO RAM RAJYA NOW. what is the use of talking about a person whose name appears only in stories.

    Did you know superman and spiderman were manuwadi brahmins and were oppressing poor dalits. I am also given to understand that mickey mouse and donald duck are actually oppressive manuwadi charecters. There is information that tom and jerry were manuwadi and tom was evil and tried to kill its own friend jerry.

    What should be done now?

  42. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU HAS DISCARDED HIS RAPIST GODS !!!!!
    Dear Viewers ,
    Mr. Happy Hindu @ happyhindushem @ lavnya @ shem said ( September 30, 2008 @ 2:39 am ),”My Gods did not rape. Why should I discard them .”
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/beware-of-meditation/#comment-1769
    My ANSWER IS ;- Mr. Happy Hindu was a staunch follower of Vishanu who raped Adi-mata Varinda w/o Adi-mahabhagwan Jalandhar as recoeded in the Padam Purana , the district Jalandhar`s gazeteer published by the Punjab government and the Hindi movie the ” Tulasi Vivah .”
    Now Mr.Happy Hindu was fed up of rapist Vishanu .He discarded him by writing that he had no rapist God ! i already said that vaidik people have to discard either the evil Gods or their scriptures . He pefered scriptures to the evil Gods . He already took stand against rapism , racism and fascism . He also took stand that every body had burnt the Manu-simrity !
    I congrtulate Mr. Happy Hindu for this development in the history of India . I wish him success in the war against the rapism , racism and fascism !!!!!

  43. hindushemhappy said

    Chumber,

    you are correct. THERE IS NO RAM RAJYA NOW. what is the use of talking about a person whose name appears only in stories.

    Did you know superman and spiderman were manuwadi brahmins and were oppressing poor dalits. I am also given to understand that mickey mouse and donald duck are actually oppressive manuwadi charecters. There is information that tom and jerry were manuwadi and tom was evil and tried to kill its own friend jerry.

    What should be done now?
    ———————-

    Mesquiteice,

    You made my day….can’t stop laughing…..thanks 😀

  44. hinduhappy said

    CHUMBER,

    You suffer from the following. I Want you to take us both to Court. GO AND FILE A CASE NOW.

    1) Narcisissm: Suffering from an all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity with need for admiration or adulation.

    2) Cold heart: Lack of empathy. Not against poverty. Evil manipulator. Doing ‘help’ for political ambition. Indulging in dastardly acts.

    3) OCD: Obsessively seeking self-gratification (always asking for apology or making demands), seeking domination, and overtly ambitious.

    4) Inferiority complex: Always exaggerating oneself and accomplishments.

    5) Pathological lying: Always telling lies and cooking up / presenting up screwed up stories about Gods and scriptures to top up another lie.

    6) Manipulating: Misquoting others completely to serve one’s own image; and presenting conflicting statements within the same note.

    7) Faking: Presenting oneself as always the wronged one, having inability to accept your own shortcomings such as lack of understanding and manipulating others words. Showing off your big library and asshole brain.

    8 ) Ego / Image problem: Loaded with the Ahankara image for public consumption. Mamakara is absent. It means, you are an EVIL MAN.

    9) Latent Paedophilia: You cannot differentiate between marriage and rape. You overlooked that a 9-year old girl cannot give consent for ‘that’. YOU ARE A MAD MULLAH FOR SURE.

    10) Social assasinator: Assasinating collective progress using reservations and seeking to impose caste on others to keep them poor to serve as a vote bank.

  45. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I ADMIRE CHUMBER JI`S STEADFAST STAND IN HIS VIEWS , HOWEVER POINTLESS THEY MAY BE !!!!! NOW PLEASE READERS , DON`T LABEL ME CHUMBERWADI BECAUSE I ADMIRED AND GLORIFIED CHUMBER JI !!!!! – MR. KARTHIKEYAN

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 1, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

    Hello readers,
    I’ve made it clear that it is not my headache to keep on condemning and finding fault with people. I also reasoned that “give no resistance to evil, it will go away by itself”. I had always written my impartial views. I never lied.

    huh.. I’m a mere mortal. I get tired often. I cannot be in full warmed up state always. I admire Chumber Ji’s steadfast stand in his views, however pointless they may be. Now please readers, don’t label me Chumberwadi because I admired and glorified Chumber Ji. I’m not any “wadi” or “ist”. I’m a socially responsible citizen.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-1839

  46. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR.MESQUITEICE ! ALTHOUGH CONSTITUTION NOT BANNED HINDU GODS BRAHMA AND VISHANU YET CONSTITUTION DID NOT LEGETIMATE THEIRS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ATTITUDES AS RECORDED IN THE HINDUS`SCRIPTURES !!!!!

    mesquiteice said,

    September 4, 2008 @ 11:32 am

    Chumber JI,

    DONT LIE

    Constitution has not banned Brahma/vishnu etc

    As far a CASTE SYSTEM IS CONCERNED you are the one who is protecting the varna system even if every body wants to give up.

    Since you seem to understand law so well, you may go and check up with court/police whether TALKING BAD ABOUT OTHERS AND THEIR BELIEFS AND FAITHS which is allowed by the constitution. PLEASE CHECK UP THE LAW AND CLARIFY THE POSITION
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-1846

  47. chit-anand said

    ALTHOUGH CONSTITUTION NOT BANNED HINDU GODS BRAHMA AND VISHANU YET CONSTITUTION DID NOT LEGETIMATE THEIRS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ATTITUDES AS RECORDED IN THE HINDUS`SCRIPTURES !!!!!
    ———-

    This IDIOT CHUMBER does not know the law nor the constitution.

    He is blabbering because he is a Mad Man.

    He is best dealt in court.

    By now everybody who reads these posts will know that Chumber is Mad.

    There is no point in replying to this Mad Man.

    He is a pathological Liar.

    He needs to act pompously in his self-grandiose nincompoop way for his Dumbedkar image.

    If he does not denounce the corrupt prophets of old testament, then it is confirmed that He is a Mad Mullah disguising himself as Adi-Dharmi.

    He will receive proactive and practical lessons in law and constitution.

    Someone from RSS will directly deal with someone like him hands-on.

    Best of Luck Chumber.

  48. C . L . CHUMBER said

    chit-anand said,
    October 3, 2008 @ 10:35 am

    He will receive proactive and practical lessons in law and constitution.
    Someone from RSS will directly deal with someone like him hands-on.

  49. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU IS NOT SUFFERING FROM ANY DESEASE . HE IS AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS HE WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!! HE NEED NOT TO BE HOSPITALISED !!!! THE SCIENTISTS MUST RESEARCH ON HIS BEHAVIOUR AND HE SHOULD BE AWARDED THE EINSTAN AWARD !!!!! I WISH HIM SUCCESS IN HIS WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RASCISM AND FASCISM !!!!!

  50. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I HAD ALREADY WROTE THAT THE VAIDIK INDO-ARYANS WORSHIPERS OF THE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST GODS WILL BURN MY EFFIGIES IN OCTOBER ,2008 AND IN NOVEMBER , 2008 THEY WILL BURN THE EFFIGIES OF THEIR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS TO DISCARD EVIL GODS !!!!!

    shemahinduhappy said,
    October 2, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

    1) DALITS HAVE DISCARDED CHUMBER
    Some of my extended acquaintances have spoken to scheduled-whatever people in Bangalore. The ‘dalits’ there are hindu and THEY HAVE AGREED TO DISCARD AND DENOUNCE CHUMBER IN COURT.

    2) CHUMBER HATES AMBEDKAR AND MAYAWATI
    I can prove this in court. Why is Chumber NOT filing a case against me?

    3) CHUMBER IS MAD AND URGENTLY REQUIRES HOSPITALIZATION IN A MENTAL ASYLUM
    Chumber is a Liar, Manipulator, a Malicious Cheat, a moron, narcissist and Misquotes people repeatedly. So, he diplays all qualities of a Mad Man. For barking in caps all the time, he requires urgent hospitalization because his mental balance is already loose on caps.

    4) CHUMBER LOVES POVERTY AND WANTS POOR PEOPLE TO REMAIN POOR ALWAYS
    Chumber has admitted that his top priority is NOT eradication of poverty. He wants people to remain poor and keep begging for reservations so that they will keep voting for him. I can prove this also in court.

    5) CHUMBER IS AN UNTOUCHABLE
    Dalits are NOT untouchables. Dalits are hindus. Dalits have discarded Chumber. Chumber is a liar and a mad-man who manipulates people. He is therefore an untouchable politician.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/the-eleven-brahmins-and-eleven-million-fools/#comment-1965

  51. C . L . CHUMBER said

    ” HURRAH ! MR. KARTHIKEYAN HAS CONDEMNED THE VAIDIK ABUSERS !!!!
    Dear viewers,
    You had been abusing Chumber Ji badly, no matter he deserved or not. Now he has improved his style. Request you all to post your appreciations if any for him.

    I know viewers, I’m putting myself in the risk that Chumber Ji might comment in multiple posts with this title:
    HURRAH ! MR. KARTHIKEYAN HAS CONDEMNED THE VAIDIK ABUSERS !!!!
    and linking to this reply. Hope you will not be carried away by this usual Chumberwadi tactic.” BY MR. KARTHIKEYAN .
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

  52. C . L . CHUMBER said

    CHUMBER IS DEADLY AGAINST THE INDO-ARYANS` RESERVATION ON CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM BASIS !!!!! CHUMBER DEMANDED BAN ON CREAMY LAYER FOR GOVT. JOBS TO BENEFIT THE POORS OF INDIA BUT THE HAPPY HINDUS OPPOSED !!!!! WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD ? ? ? ? ?

    mesquiteice said,

    October 8, 2008 @ 6:07 am

    Chumber,

    Reservation may not be begging. But asking for reservation is.

    My full support to JAGO party!
    dakrishnasi said,

    October 8, 2008 @ 10:27 am

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    Everyone is tired of listening to you singing your paens. Everyone knows reservations are meant to benefit the poor. But the poor do not get benefitted because of politicians like you.First you file a case, then talk.

  53. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    No double standard.

    I would normally support reservation based on economic criteria. but again by doing that you are depriving a genius from studies just because he is rich. and the poor guy will be forced to study though he has no interest.

    Rather, than this we should make education completely free.

    When government can give ration rice/wheeat in every village, why not books and schools.

    The only problem is that all educational institutions have political clout and may not allow this. Even if you want to get free seat in govt college based on mark you have to pay money to politicians. They do not care whether you are rich or poor. They only want their money.

  54. hindushemhappy said

    CHUMBER IS DEADLY AGAINST THE INDO-ARYANS` RESERVATION ON CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM BASIS !!!!! CHUMBER DEMANDED BAN ON CREAMY LAYER FOR GOVT. JOBS TO BENEFIT THE POORS OF INDIA BUT THE HAPPY HINDUS OPPOSED !!!!! WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD ? ? ? ? ?
    ————————–

    Chumber, we are opposed to reservations in ALL forms.

    But you will hold on to caste and call others double standard.

    Now it is clear why the government has failed – it is because there are idiots who mistake “caste” for social status and properity.

    But you Chumber should not talk any more any further without filing a case. Otherwise accept that you are a coward.

  55. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I AM READY TO DARE CHALLENGE THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND INVENTORS OF THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! I AM READY TO DRINK A BOWL OF POISON LIKE SOCRATE BUT I WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE BARBARIAN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS !!!!! THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLWERS WILL BE FOUGHT IN THE COURTS ACCORDING TO THE DR. AMBAWDEKAR @ DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !!!! ALL HINDU SCRIPTURES ARE READY FOR REFERENCES .A PERSON WHO HAVE NOT ONE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS IS GOING TO FILE A CASE . HE HAS PUBLISHED MY TWO EMAILS ADDRESSES IN THIS BLOG . BUT HE DID NOT DARE TO PUBLISH HIS OWN EMAIL ADRESSES IN THIS BLOG .COME ON !!!!!

    hindushemhappy said,
    October 14, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    If you and the owner of this blog do not give your name and address within the next 3 days, then a FIR will be filed against you for sedition, anti-Indian government stand, hurting religious sentiments and inciting communal divide.
    If we cannot find this blog’s owner / writer, then you Chumber will face charges for both of you together.

    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-2416

  56. C . L . CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU FINALLY ADMITTED ,” OUR GODS WERE NEITHER RAPISTS NOR RACIST NOR FASCIST ” !!!!!
    THEN BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ( WHO WERE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS PER SCRIPTURES OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS ) ARE NOT THE GODS OF MODERN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS !!!!! NOW M/S. HAPPY HINDUS WILL DISCOVER OR INVENT THEIR NEW GODS . I HOPE THEIR NEW INVENTED / DISCOVERED GODS WILL BE DEADLY AGAINST THE RAPE AND CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!

    shhhapinendupy said,
    October 10, 2008 @ 2:58 am

    MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?-C . L. CHUMBER
    ————–

    Mr.Dumbedkar,

    Post was to Mesquiteice. But i am writing in between. Want to tell you that you are a liar. OUR GODS WERE NEITHER RAPISTS NOR RACIST NOR FASCIST . It is mullahs-commies-missionaries who are making up and propagating all lies about hindusim, to create divisions. And dumedkar politicians like you want to make a living out of it. For once, drop your politician stand, be with yourself for a few min and listen to this: It is mullahs-commies-missionaries who are making up and propagating all lies about hindusim, to create divisions. And dumedkar politicians like you want to make a living out of it. For once, drop your politician stand, be with yourself for a few min and listen to this:
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/brahmin-heads-citigroup/#comment-2364

  57. hindushemhappy said

    I AM READY TO DARE CHALLENGE THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND INVENTORS OF THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! I AM READY TO DRINK A BOWL OF POISON LIKE SOCRATE BUT I WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE BARBARIAN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS !!!!! THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLWERS WILL BE FOUGHT IN THE COURTS ACCORDING TO THE DR. AMBAWDEKAR @ DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !!!! ALL HINDU SCRIPTURES ARE READY FOR REFERENCES .A PERSON WHO HAVE NOT ONE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS IS GOING TO FILE A CASE . HE HAS PUBLISHED MY TWO EMAILS ADDRESSES IN THIS BLOG . BUT HE DID NOT DARE TO PUBLISH HIS OWN EMAIL ADRESSES IN THIS BLOG .COME ON !!!!!

    —————–

    ok chumber, my email address is this: muralidharan.lavanya6@gmail.com

    Now you be a good boy and give me your address and this blog owner’s name and address.

    Instead of court, i suspect you will go straight to mental asylum. You really think you are Socrates ??

  58. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !

    Karthikeyan said,
    October 8, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    Chumber Ji,
    Rama need not have to prove his purity because he was in the company of his brothers/friends/sages all the time in exile. But Sita was in the forcible possession of lustful wicked demon. She was in the midst of all stranger men for several years. So she was required to prove her purity. Clear?
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/

    • Shankar said

      BTW Mr. Chumber, If you consider Rama to be evil and Ravana to be the victim of the atrocities of the high classed Rama, let me tell you that Ravana was a Brahmin. Actually he is called the the “Maha-Brahmana” who is said to be the creator of “Sama veda”.

      This is for your information.

  59. C . L . CHUMBER said

    M/S. HAPPY HINDUS !
    THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL THE BANNING OF WORSHIPING OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU EVIL GODS !!!!!
    LET US FIGHT AGAINST THESE EVILS !!!!!
    YOU ARE MY FAST FRIEND WHO IS GOING TO REGISTER FIR AGAINST ME OR SENDING A LEGAL NOTICE TO ME . THIS WILL RECORD YOUR NAME IN THE HISTORY OF WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    I MAY BE THE VICTIM OR WINNER OF THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU GODS BUT MY COUNTRY WILL DEVELOP MENTALLY DURING THIS AND AFTER WAR !!!!!
    MAY OUR WAR BE FRUITFUL FOR HUMANITY !!!!!

    Hindushemhappy said,
    October 14, 2008 @ 1:11 am
    If you and the owner of this blog do not give your name and address within the next 3 days, then a FIR WILL BE FILED against you for sedition, anti-Indian government stand, hurting religious sentiments and inciting communal divide.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-2598

    Hindushemhappy said,
    October 15, 2008 @ 10:56 am
    Chumber,
    Next, i am ONLY SENDING A LAWYER`S NOTICE to both of you.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/mandal-commission-rajiv-gandhi-and-the-manuwadi-conspiracy/#comment-2577

  60. lavanya said

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !
    ——–

    That is why i told you to read the Ramayan – original Valmiki version – before coming to court.

    Ravana had raped a girl equal to his daughter-in-law. She comitted sucide. Before dying she cursed Ravan that if he raped anyone ever again, he wud loose all his heads (means, lose all buddhi, he had buddhi equal to 10 men) and become burned to ashes (become reduced to a pauper). So, Ravan did not rape anybody after that curse.

    Ravan kept threatening and tempting Sita that he is more handsome and king of a bigger kingdom than Ram. When ever he felt like forcing himself on Sita, he felt headache and got reminded of the curse. Then he stopped. He was selfish for power. He could not rape.

    Ravan threatend Sita just like you threatened people with your lies here. You said if people worshipped gods, they must spend time behind bars because govt has banned gods?

    But lies, threats, temptations, etc never work. And you will have to find yourself without your kingdom, in an asylum.

    But anyway, It is good that you are seeing a ‘BRAHMIN’ as a good man. Thankyou. Ravan was a brahmin.

    —————-

    M/S. HAPPY HINDUS !
    THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL THE BANNING OF WORSHIPING OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU EVIL GODS !!!!!
    LET US FIGHT AGAINST THESE EVILS !!!!!
    YOU ARE MY FAST FRIEND WHO IS GOING TO REGISTER FIR AGAINST ME OR SENDING A LEGAL NOTICE TO ME . THIS WILL RECORD YOUR NAME IN THE HISTORY OF WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    I MAY BE THE VICTIM OR WINNER OF THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU GODS BUT MY COUNTRY WILL DEVELOP MENTALLY DURING THIS AND AFTER WAR !!!!!
    MAY OUR WAR BE FRUITFUL FOR HUMANITY !!!!!
    ————

    Chumber, YOU are the evil. Not only me, YOU are the evil that EVERYONE if going to fight.

    YOU are the mullah (or prove it wrong). You have to answer this:

    a) Do you find Islam perfect? Do you support that a 54-year old man must consummate marriage with a 9-year old girl? That is not rape?

    Why are dumb mullahs like you hell bent on proving Hindu Gods as rapists?

    Answer: It is because Islam cannot prove that Muhammad did not Rape Ayesha. Or should I give more instances of your prophet’s acts and that of his men?

    b) Why are you not raising voice against Ashrafi muslims who do NOT treat dalit AshLafi muslims equally? Do Ashrafi muslims marry dalit muslims?

    Do rich people marry poor people only for ‘caste’ without love? Will any such marriage last?

    Do you know how many Christians support Hindus against mullahs, Chumber? You will be amazed Chumber, just amazed. You asked for it.

    TO all muslim friends,

    Why did your Zakir Naik refuse debate against Ali Sina?

    You guys ASK for trouble. Nobody ever attacked Islam. Muslims have always attacked others, looted, burnt, raped everything and now you want the world to believe that islam is peace?

    These days, even a 8-year old child knows terrorist means muslim. That is how it has become, because of what all YOU muslims have done for tooooo long.

    If you guys do not grow up, you are forcing trouble upon yourselves. Do not make the mistake of taking the patience of a hindu for granted.

    If you believe in the language of aggression, the world will speak to you in the same language.

    CHUMBER,

    Just give me your address. Right here on this blog. Do not talk another single word without your address. First your address. Then this blog owner’s name and address. Then talk. Otherwise, just keep your lips sealed.

    • Shankar said

      Dear Lavanya,

      your point about Ravana having raped a 9 yr old isnt true and not doing any justice to the already hot matter.

      Ravana was a “eka patni vratasta” who kidnapped sita to avenge his humiliation during Sita’s swayamvara. Actually it was the “Chaya Seeta / virtual seeta” whom he abducted.
      He is considered to be a great scholar, musician, composer, soldier and a great architect.

      Rama himself performs Ravana’s last rites after his death in the battlefield.
      Ravana is said to be the creator of Samaveda, the veda which is about music.

      Who had the guts to wish Rama “Vijayibhava” before their battle started?

      please check your facts about Rama / Ravana and Ramayana from a scholar.

      regards,

      Shankar

  61. lavanya said

    lavanya said,
    October 19, 2008 @ 10:36 am

    MR. KARTHIKEYAN JI ! RAVAN WAS NOT LUSTFUL ! HE HAD A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT RAPED SITA EVEN IN HIS CUSTODY .BUT RAMA BANISHED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SITA .WHY ? RAMA HAD NOT DONE JUSTICE TO HIS WIFE !
    ——–

    That is why i told you to read the Ramayan – original Valmiki version – before coming to court.

    Ravana had raped a girl equal to his daughter-in-law. She comitted sucide. Before dying she cursed Ravan that if he raped anyone ever again, he wud loose all his heads (means, lose all buddhi, he had buddhi equal to 10 men) and become burned to ashes (become reduced to a pauper). So, Ravan did not rape anybody after that curse.

    Ravan kept threatening and tempting Sita that he is more handsome and king of a bigger kingdom than Ram. When ever he felt like forcing himself on Sita, he felt headache and got reminded of the curse. Then he stopped. He was selfish for power. He could not rape.

    Ravan threatend Sita just like you threatened people with your lies here. You said if people worshipped gods, they must spend time behind bars because govt has banned gods?

    But lies, threats, temptations, etc never work. And you will have to find yourself without your kingdom, in an asylum.

    But anyway, It is good that you are seeing a ‘BRAHMIN’ as a good man. Thankyou. Ravan was a brahmin.

    —————-

    M/S. HAPPY HINDUS !
    THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WILL CONTINUE TILL THE BANNING OF WORSHIPING OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU EVIL GODS !!!!!
    LET US FIGHT AGAINST THESE EVILS !!!!!
    YOU ARE MY FAST FRIEND WHO IS GOING TO REGISTER FIR AGAINST ME OR SENDING A LEGAL NOTICE TO ME . THIS WILL RECORD YOUR NAME IN THE HISTORY OF WAR AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    I MAY BE THE VICTIM OR WINNER OF THE WAR AGAINST THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU GODS BUT MY COUNTRY WILL DEVELOP MENTALLY DURING THIS AND AFTER WAR !!!!!
    MAY OUR WAR BE FRUITFUL FOR HUMANITY !!!!!
    ————

    Chumber, YOU are the evil. Not only me, YOU are the evil that EVERYONE IS going to fight.

    YOU are the mullah (or prove it wrong). You have to answer this:

    a) Do you find Islam perfect? Do you support that a 54-year old man must consummate marriage with a 9-year old girl? That is not rape?

    Why are dumb mullahs like you hell bent on proving Hindu Gods as rapists?

    Answer: It is because Islam cannot prove that Muhammad did not Rape Ayesha. Or should I give more instances of your prophet’s acts and that of his men?

    b) Why are you not raising voice against Ashrafi muslims who do NOT treat dalit AshLafi muslims equally? Do Ashrafi muslims marry dalit muslims?

    Do rich people marry poor people only for ‘caste’ without love? Will any such marriage last?

    Do you know how many Christians support Hindus against mullahs, Chumber? You will be amazed Chumber, just amazed. You asked for it.

    TO all muslim friends,

    Why did your Zakir Naik refuse debate against Ali Sina?

    You guys ASK for trouble. Nobody ever attacked Islam. Muslims have always attacked others, looted, burnt, raped everything and now you want the world to believe that islam is peace?

    These days, even a 8-year old child knows terrorist means muslim. That is how it has become, because of what all YOU muslims have done for tooooo long.

    If you guys do not grow up, you are forcing trouble upon yourselves. Do not make the mistake of taking the patience of a hindu for granted.

    If you believe in the language of aggression, the world will speak to you in the same language.

    CHUMBER,

    Just give me your address. Right here on this blog. Do not talk another single word without your address. First your address. Then this blog owner’s name and address. Then talk. Otherwise, just keep your lips sealed.

  62. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! YOU HAVE MY TWO EMAIL ADDRESSES AND YOU MAY SEND ME YOUR EMAIL ADRESSES AND POSTAL ADDRESSE DIRECTLY !!!!!

  63. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PROPHET MOHAMMED MARRIED AYISHA ( AS YOU PEOPLE WROTE ALREADY ) BUT VISHANU RAPED ADI-MATA VARINDA W/O ADI-MAHABHAGWAN JALANDHAR FOUNDER OF JALANDHAR CITY , A PROMINENT DISTT. HQ IN PUNJAB , INDIA !!!!!
    VAIDIK GOD BRAHMA ALSO TRIED HIS BEST FIVE TIMES TO RAPE HIS OWN DAUGHTER BUT ADI-MAHABHAGWAN SHIV BEHEADED HIM TO SAVE HIS ( BRAHMA`S ) DAUGHTER TO BE RAPED BY A FATHER !!!!!

  64. Karthikeyan said

    Lavanya, neither do Muhammad’s acts nor Rama’s acts matter now. They are firstly acts of the past but most importanly they are devine acts whose meanings we cannot interpret.

    You don’t get gold just by digging, do you? You get lot of mud and dirt! You have to cleanse them and process them in a disciplined way to extract just a handful of gold from masses of dirt! This is how religious scripts are. There are good things and bad things everywhere, and bad things are best caught by our eyes isn’t it? So we can keep on finding faults. Only the wise knows to extract gold. Try to extract gold from Muhammad’s story and be wise. And treat them as fools if they call Ram’s story a dirt. They cannot extract gold from it.

  65. mesquiteice said

    Karthikeyan,

    your post is reminicent of the views of Rabbi Yisreael Ball Shem Tov and certain view of Zen.

    How true?

    It is indeed a joy to undertand that everything in this universe is a manifestation of “GO(L)D”.

    therefore everthing is divine. every thing is good for everybody.

    even the poisonous snake is divine.

    It is just that humans have decided to remain childish all through their lives. A reasarch shows that we do not grow intellectuall after the age of 15.

    It may seem comic for some persons to realise this. But i believe in this.

    MAY Happiness abound, and may the celebrations begin

  66. Venkata said

    Karthikeyan,

    What you say is perfect. Have never beleived in digging into the past either. The prob is with me. Am just not patient anymore. And its taking me a lot to restrian myself from producing a list from the Quran just like Dilip did for Christianity. Let me explain why.

    I have realized that muslims in most online places always like to prove rape or denigrate hindu gods. Why? Am sure they are the ‘trouble creators’ and not real muslims.

    I want the sensible muslims, the liberals among them, to come forward and stop the rest of their ilk from trying to “prove” things from other people’s faith. Where are they?

    That is why I dislike Zakir Naik. His aim is to compare with the (mal) intension to “prove” that Islam is ‘superior’. That is infact his own ego. The religion is just his excuse.

    What is funny is that this Zakir Naik’s ancestors (Konkani brahmins) were persecuted, raped, cut into pieces and thrown out of their homeland (Kashmir) by Muslims. And now Zakir Naik talks in their support!!

    In the US, this Zakir Naik would be in Guantanamo Bay by now for a good number of his controversial statements. Why do people like him abuse the hospitality of an Indian?

    And what about people like Chumber? Do you think we must leave a liar and mad man like him alone? Ofcourse we should -if he does not go around misguiding and fooling people with his lies.
    But he is not another man on the streets like you or me, he is a politician, giving his fiery speeches and fooling poor people. So what do we do?

    Chumber CLAIMS he is not a muslim. He lies.

    In the place where I stay, there are a few Adi-Dharmis who are part of the Khalsa Association group. None of them abuse Hindusim. Infact, they say they are both hindu and sikh. Sikhs never abuse hindusim like this either.

    Ideological differences expressed as an intellectual and spitirual critique is natural and very much accepted, yes, but this man is ABUSING a religion, with the intension of JUSTIFYING given “acts” (not points of philosophy) from other religions (this is similar to what Zakir Naik does).

    In doing that, this Chumber has also forgotten the lines of decency. He is an idiot no doubt, but who gave him the right to go around denigrating other’s faith?

    My take is this:

    Get my folk back home to file an FIR, investigate this blog, investigate Chumber for charges of hurting religious sentiments. Simultaneously petition against him and this dalitnation, as people whose intention is to denigrate, humiliate, abuse and cause communal divide.

    I have had enuf of talking. All this is reeel life. Its not gonna work. This is Kaliyuga. I do not bother he does not want to give address. He can be dug out.

    However, I ask you, What do you think we must do? Continue to exercise patience? Am tired of patience being mistaken for inability and cowardice. How to leave a mad man going around speaking on every stage fooling poor people with his lies?

    I ask this to Mesquiteice, Dilip, Muthukaruppan, Paul Krist and anyone reading this – What should we do?

  67. @Karthikeyan: India is pseudo secular. Chumber is anti-hindu and he will get shit loads of support from the south indian dravidian government. No doubt that Chumber is a hate monger and is all out to specifically bust out on Hinduism. I don’t care a damn because im game for getting rid of Hinduism BUT the problem is i want to get rid of all faith based systems including Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Jainism etc., and have a logical and practical society that lives and judges things on the basis of evidence. Chumber like folks are sponsored by Missionaries or Saudi oil money to do what they are doing here.

    For example, this dalit nation guys have an office in the UK. I ask, why have an office in the UK? They claim to represent the crux of the crowd here in india and what the heck are they doing in an office in the UK? See where i’m coming from?

    My best bet is handle chumber here. It would take 6 months to explain what a BLOG is to a judge in court. Then you will have human rights activists come and side with chumber on the blaring problems created by HINDU caste system and support him.

    I would like to hear from other people here what they think. My thoughts lie around this area. Legal action on Chumber is impractical because our law and order / justice system is fucked. I’ve done it already with other Chumber like people and its never worked.

  68. and oh, btw i just noticed that Dalit Nation has deleted all of my previous comments from this blog post.

  69. VenkataSamukham said

    Dilip,

    You tried as just one person.

    Please do not under-estimate a group.

    If someone has oil money, others also have enuf money from various sources.

    As far as explainig things to a judge is concerned, no worries, i have lawyers from within my family.

    Also know one lawyer, family friend, who is popular for high profile (politician) cases.

    Am just waiting to hear what others have to say abt this, esp from Mesquiteice and Kartikeyan.

    What do we do?

    Btw,

    Dilip, Mesquiteice, Karthikeyan, Paul, Chumber and Dalitnation, and all reading this:
    A Very Happy and Prosperous Diwali to you. Just as Ram was welcomed with lights, may the welcome joy, peace and contenment into our lives.

    And nope, the post above and the diwali message is not conflicting.

  70. SamukhamV said

    Dilip,

    You say you want to get rid of all faith based systems and have a society based on logic and stuff based on evidence.

    Your views are that of an atheist or maybe even the communist kind. But to others, their faith can be a sort of hope or motivation to live. As long we do not hurt each other, all such ideas, approaches, etc have a place under the sun.

    While the likes of Chumber might beleive in 1 God, 99 attributes, One concept, we hindus believe in 1 God, 1008 attributes, several concepts and yet, they are insufficent to describe that one God.

    If i can produce a list of socially-unacceptable stuff from the Quran, i can also produce a list of wonderful gems from the same Quran. We are not against any religion.

    We just want to make the likes of Chumber see reason. Nobody born on earth, either a prophet or god, is “perfect”; because they are perfect and it is we that are imperfect.

    All we ask is this: If we worship our Gods, it is our will, our choice. We do not want to hurt other people’s religious sentiments, but we will not tolerate other people interefering, debasing and denigrating our faith. Certainly, the law protects our religious rights. Chumber will be in for a long haul and great trouble if he continues to attack hindu faith like this.

  71. SV said

    SamukhamV said,
    October 29, 2008 @ 8:44 am

    Dilip,

    You say you want to get rid of all faith based systems and have a society based on logic and stuff based on evidence.

    Your views are that of an atheist or maybe even the communist kind. But to others, their faith can be a sort of hope or motivation to live. As long we do not hurt each other, all such ideas, approaches, etc have a place under the sun.

    While the likes of Chumber might beleive in 1 God, 99 attributes, One concept, we hindus believe in 1 God, 1008 attributes, several concepts and yet, they are insufficent to describe that one God. If i can produce a list of socially-unacceptable stuff from the Quran, i can also produce a list of wonderful gems from the same Quran. We are not against any religion.

    We just want to make the likes of Chumber see reason. Nobody born on earth, either a prophet or god, is “perfect”; because they are perfect and it is we that are imperfect.

    All we ask is this: If we worship our Gods, it is our will, our choice. We do not want to hurt other people’s religious sentiments, but we will not tolerate other people interefering, debasing and denigrating our faith. Certainly, the law protects our religious rights. Chumber will be in for a long haul and great trouble if he continues to attack hindu faith like this.

  72. mesquiteice said

    Thanks venkatasamukam and wish you too. may the festival of lights dispel the darkness away.

    As far as the action against chumber, I am out of it.

    I have always believed and continue to believe that Hatered can never win. Ultimately it is Love which will win.

    I still love chumber because he is the one person who has been taking a different view. His views may be wrong. His words may be hurting others. But it is our duty to keep telling him and believe that one day he will stop this.

    Any way, When you start going behind chumber to correct him, you waste a lot of time and effort on what? to get a guy put behind bars. I really feel this thing about law that it is not actually reformative. At the end of the whole exercise chumber will remain chumber and you would have wasted resources.

    Realistically, you would not be able to get any orders from the courts for chumbers acts. You can check up with your relative(lawyer) as to what is the relief you can get.

    The only thing the court can do is punish chumber. How does that benefit us. Law is not the creator or god. It is an institution and is itself governed by certain rules.

    I am with you if you want to challenge chumbers views? for eg. if you plan to oppose reservation, then yes. but not an individual like chumber.

    In fact there are thousands of jobless politicians in india spreading hatered who need to be taught lessons.But as they say ” NEVER FIGHT WITH A PIG! NOT ONLY BECAUSE YOU WILL GET DIRTY, BUT BECAUSE THE PIG LIKES IT AND LOSES NOTING.”

    Lets think of other ideas

  73. Karthikeyan said

    HH Ji, In my opinion we are already doing what we must do. Just as it is impossible for us to enlighten every single individual on earth, it is impossible for the other group to spoil every single individual. They will have their own score, we cannot prevent it. Weak minds will be easily swayed away by them. And we have nothing to help them. Social service, Crime Fight, and the sorts of what we are now doing are ways of life. Just another way we would be glad to lead our lives. And this will never end. Neither does their way. We should be happy that we are wise enough not to fall prey to pointless propechies.

  74. venkatasamukhamhh said

    Mesquiteice,

    Yes i know…the lawyer cousin has been laughing her head off…. asked me if i am mad to go after a lunatic like chumber, who needs to be locked up in a toilet according to her, not an asylum…..then gave me a long list of “IFs”…if chumber gives his address with proof of identity, if dalitnation provides something, IF chumber agrees and accepts about something in person…and so on…She said i bet they will delete the blog, the moment the heat is turned on…now she has literally made me a butt of jokes…but what i understood and accept from her is what she said about you cannot take on aggressors and liars (chumber-dalitnation) by taking the same path yourself, said people like chumber abound in dozens like fleas and worms (all wannabe politicians) and a few handful ppl cannot become a fumigant, said its a change in social thot that is needed and so on…in other words, she reflected most of your writing…

    Am just wondering what to do next….any ideas?

    Karthikeyan,
    Maybe u r right but somehow am just feeling what we are doing is not enuf…

    Thanks to both of you for your replies.

  75. C.L .CHUMBER said

    PLEASE DO NOT PUT ANY WORDS WHICH I NEVER WROTE !!!!!

    Mesquiteice said,
    October 28, 2008 @ 11:25 am

    Chumber,
    Your Manusmirity says:

    I NEVER WROTE ANY MANUSIMRITY . MY CHUMBER-SIMRITY IS UNDER PREPARATION AND WILL BE OUT IN 2009 AD .-C.L.CHUMBER

    55. Women must be honoured and adorned by their fathers, brothers, husbands, and brothers-in-law, who desire (their own) welfare.

    BRAHMA TRIED HIS BEST TO RAPE HIS OWN DAUGHTER .BRAHMA DESERTED HIS WAS AND ABDUCTED A GUJJAR BACKWARD CLASS GIRL TO BE HIS WIFE . RAMA ALSO BANISHED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA .KRISHNA ALSO DESERTED HIS WIFE RUKAMANI AND THE HINDUS WORSHIP HIM WITH HIS BELOVED RADHA . SITA`S BROTHER-IN-LAW LAKSHMAN BROUGHT HER TO FOREST TO IMPLEMENT THE RAM`S BANISHMENT ORDER .-C.L.CHUMBER

    56. Where women are honoured, there the gods are pleased; but where they are not honoured, no sacred rite yields rewards.

    BRAHMA`S WIFE CURSED HIM FOR DOING SACRED RITES WITHOUT HER.RAMA ALSO DID SACRED RITES AFTER BANISHING HIS WIFE SITA . -C.L.CHUMBER

    57. Where the female relations live in grief, the family soon wholly perishes; but that family where they are not unhappy ever prospers

    THE DAYNASTIES OF BOTH RAM AND KRISHAN PERISHED DUE TO THEIR MISBEHAVES TO WIVES .KRISHAN WAS KILLED BY A TRIBAL HUNTER AND RAM SUICIDED WITH LAKSHMAN .THERE IS NO TEMPLE OF BRAHMA EXCEPT AT PUSHKAR ( RAJASTHAN ) .-C.L.CHUMBER

    58. The houses on which female relations, not being duly honoured, pronounce a curse, perish completely, as if destroyed by magic.

    INDIA IS NOT WORLD POWER DUE TO INJUSTICE TO WOMEN OF ALL VARNAS/ RELIGIONS AND ABORIGINAL INDIANS .-C.L.CHUMBER

    How do you say that it asks you to rape others?

    PLEASE READ THE COMPLETE MANU SIMRITY . I AM AGAINST RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS .PLEASE DO NOT PUT ANY WORDS WHICH I NEVER WROTE . YOU HAD LOST YOUR CREDIBILITY !!!!!-C.L.CHUMBER

  76. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WORSHIPING , DEFENDING AND GLORIFYING THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS IS NOT AN ETHICAL RELIGIOUS CHOICE !!!! NEITHER THE EVIL GODS NOR THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS ARE PERFECT !!!!! AN ETHICAL AND DARING PERSON CAN NOT TOLERATE THE UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES IN THE THE NAME OF RELIGION .

    SV said,
    October 29, 2008 @ 10:34 am
    SamukhamV said,
    October 29, 2008 @ 8:44 am

    Dilip,

    We just want to make the likes of Chumber see reason. Nobody born on earth, either a prophet or god, is “perfect”; because they are perfect and it is we that are imperfect.

    All we ask is this: If we worship our Gods, it is our will, our choice. We do not want to hurt other people’s religious sentiments, but we will not tolerate other people interefering, debasing and denigrating our faith. Certainly, the law protects our religious rights. Chumber will be in for a long haul and great trouble if he continues to attack hindu faith like this.

  77. lavanyamura said

    WORSHIPING , DEFENDING AND GLORIFYING THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS IS NOT AN ETHICAL RELIGIOUS CHOICE !!!! NEITHER THE EVIL GODS NOR THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS ARE PERFECT !!!!! AN ETHICAL AND DARING PERSON CAN NOT TOLERATE THE UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES IN THE THE NAME OF RELIGION .
    —————-
    Those that are filled with hate are shunned by the Gods.

    Mad dictators can never be ethical people.

    Pathological liars can never dictate to others.

    Barking and braying can never be an ethical choice.

  78. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    I think you didnt understand what i told you.

    Dont teach me that Manusmrity is correct because it turned out be right in certain cases. For eg. You said “INDIA IS NOT WORLD POWER DUE TO INJUSTICE TO WOMEN” because Manusmrity says that countries which do not respect women will perish.

    On one hand you are not taking any responsiblity for manusmrity? on the other hand you are giving examples of how it is true.

    Did i ask you examples and explanation about how manusmrity is true? Dont try to impose manusmrity. I already told you that unless you take responsiblity i will not e-dialouge regarding manusmrity. I am waiting for chumber smrity.

    I asked you one simple question: that is to prove your theory that Manusmrity says that an upper caste man can rape a lower caste women. You also publised a piece from manusmrity which says that women should be honoured. Answer that point before beating around the bush

  79. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I WILL ANSWER .
    FIRST OF ALL YOU DISCARD THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS !!!!!
    THEN YOU FEEL SORRY FOR DEROGATORY PERSONAL REMARKS AGAINST ME .
    THIRDLY , YOU FEEL SORRY FOR JOINING THE ABUSIVE AND IRRATIONAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TEAM .
    FOURTH , YOU MUST CONDEMN THE VAIDIK ABUSERS , OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOT ETHICAL PERSON !!!!!

  80. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) ADMITTED FINALLY THAT BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!

    BUT HE NEVER DISCARD HIS ABUSIVE VEDIK LANGUAGE ,” Barking dogs try to bite but can never bite.”

    OUR TRUE GOD WON OVER THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFY OF RAPISTS , RACIST , FASCIST AND FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS ULTIMATELY !!!!!
    SATYA MEV JAYATEY BY E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

  81. C.L .CHUMBER said

    IN HINDU TEXTS ,THOSE THAT HAVE RAPED HAVE ONLY BEEN BURNED TO ASHES !!!!! -MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) .

    Lavanyamura said,
    November 11, 2008 @ 8:03 am

    WORSHIPING , DEFENDING AND GLORIFYING THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS IS NOT AN ETHICAL RELIGIOUS CHOICE !!!! NEITHER THE EVIL GODS NOR THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS ARE PERFECT !!!!! AN ETHICAL AND DARING PERSON CAN NOT TOLERATE THE UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES IN THE THE NAME OF RELIGION .-C . L. CHUMBER
    —————-
    Those that are filled with hate are shunned by the Gods.

    Mad dictators can never be ethical people.

    Pathological liars can never dictate to others.

    Barking and braying can never be an ethical choice.

  82. lavanyamur said

    HURRAH !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) ADMITTED FINALLY THAT BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!

    BUT HE NEVER DISCARD HIS ABUSIVE VEDIK LANGUAGE ,” Barking dogs try to bite but can never bite.”

    OUR TRUE GOD WON OVER THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFY OF RAPISTS , RACIST , FASCIST AND FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS ULTIMATELY !!!!!
    SATYA MEV JAYATEY BY E-DIALOGUE !!!!!
    —————–

    Chumber,

    First, thanks for bringing back the laughs…

    Second, your above post means you have only continously lied about rape related to hindu faith. So, I will never discard my Gods.

    Third, a mad liar can you can never discard your abusive language for hindu faith and hindu gods. So, you will continue to bark.

    Fourth, You contradicted yourself in your post about your “true god” (allah?). Then you say your true god has won!!

    Chumber, you are a clown now.

  83. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I GAVE CREDIT TO MY TRUE GOD !

  84. lavanyamura said

    I GAVE CREDIT TO MY TRUE GOD !
    ————–

    Mr.Crank,

    You cannot even decide whether your “true god” is formless or whether it is a he or she..but you want to give credit to it…..methinks your “true god” is allah? Or not ?

  85. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you said “I GAVE CREDIT TO MY TRUE GOD !”

    Similarly others want to give credit to their gods. Why are you interfering

  86. C.L .CHUMBER said

    YOUR GODS ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!

    BUT YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THEM TO BE BETTER RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!

    THEN HOW CAN YOU CLAIM FOR FOLLOWERS OF YOUR GODS ? ? ? ? ?

    OF WHICH CREDIT , YOU HAVE GIVEN TO YOUR GODS ? ? ? ? ?

    I AM NOT INTERFERING . I AM AGAINST RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM LIKE YOUR GOOD SELVES !!!!!

    BUT I AM AGAINST THE FASCISTS , RACISTS ANF RAPISTS , YOU ARE THEIR FOLLOWERS OR FRIENDS OF THE FOLLOWERS .DO YOU CONSIDER IT INTERFERING ? ? ? ? ?

  87. lavanyamuralidh said

    I GAVE CREDIT TO MY TRUE GOD !
    ————-

    Chumber,

    How do you know for sure that there is God?

    If God exists, will suffering exist?

    Do you think God creates problems?

    Does “praying” to God help solve problems ?

    Does that mean God creates problems so that we must go to God to help solve them?

    What is GOD to you Chumber?

    Can God win or lose ?

    Has God created such a thing called winning and losing? How?

    Show me where is God?

    ‘God’ to many is just prana or air. It exists but until it blows we do not feel it. Until you try, you cannot experiance it.
    Until you try, you cannot measure it.
    Even if you try, you cannot measure it fully, because it is vast and beyond “preceivable” measure ability given by this human body.
    But you can become one with it, by mingling in it.
    Take a deep breath and try.

    No matter how ‘good’ or how ‘bad’ your day has been, before you sleep, imagine it is this body’s last day on earth…automatically you will become a mute spectator to the one that performs in the outer world – you cannot change it, but you can watch it and know that it is not you….after the curtains are drawn, automatically you will take a long breath and try…

    Am sure you agree that prana or air is beyond all “religion”….beyond all “gods”…beyond all “makings”…beyond everything that is “support” and “supported”…beyond everything that is “seen” or “unseen”…beyond everything that is “felt” and “unfelt”…THAT, is exactly what you are Chumber – tat tvam asi – You are God.

  88. lavanyamuralidh said

    Chumber,

    If you were ‘God’, wud you go around condemning things ? Wud you ask for ‘apology’? Wud you ‘demand’ things?

  89. C.L .CHUMBER said

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND DR.Dr M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K TO HIM WHETHER HE HAD WRITTEN ACTUALLY !!!!!

    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !

    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
    BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

  90. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HINDU COUNCIL U.K. ADMITTED THAT REGVEDIK ARYANS WERE INFERIOR TO THE INDUS VALLEY PEOPLE !!!!!

    Obviously the RgVedic Aryans were materially much less advanced than the Indus Valley people and their houses and other things were made of perishable material which could not survive the onslaught of weather and other contingencies in the course of millenniums.
    COURTSEY : -http://www.hinducounciluk.org/newsite/circulardet.asp?rec=83

  91. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –

    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVRY TOME BY INTERCOURSING KASHATTRIYA LADIES BY HIS BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!

  92. C.L .CHUMBER said

    C. L . CHUMBER NEEDS DR. SATISH RAO`S CONTACT NUMBER !!!!!

    THIS MEDICAL REPORT IS THE BRAIN CHILD OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS !!!!!

    IF IT IS DR. M.R. SATISH RAO `S REPORT , HE MUST GAVE HIS MOBILE / TELEPHONE NOs. , OFFICE / RESIDENTIAL / E-MAIL ADDRESSES AND WEBSITE NAME OF HIS HOSPITAL SO THAT MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND MY SYMPATHIZERS MAY CONSULT HIM !!!!!

    HOW CAN I CONTACT THIS GENIUS PERSON WITHOUT HIS CONTACTS ? ? ? ? ?

    Dr. M.R.Satish Rao said,
    November 12, 2008 @ 8:21 am

    Dear Friends,
    ( 1 ) I have been following the conversations here for some time.
    As a clinical psychaitrist working as a registrar in Manchester NHS hospital, I can clearly pronounce that Mr C.L.Chumber has gone insane based on the evidence available through his posts.
    MY ANSWER IS : – IS DR . M.R. SATISH RAO FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATION OF C . L. CHUMBER ( MY ) ONLY OR TOTALLY ? IF TOTALLY , THEN WHY DID HE PRONOUNCE HIS JUDGEMENT ONLY ON C . L. CHUMBER ? WHY NOT ON OTHERS ? THESE WERE NOT VIEWS . THIS WAS A MEDICAL JUDGEMENT TO DECLARE ON C.L.CHUMBER IN PERSON AND CONFIDENTIALLY . DOES YOUR MEDICAL NORMS AND ETHICS PERMIT YOU TO DO SO ? OR ARE YOU PAID FOR THIS BY ANYONE EXCEPT ME AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS ?
    ( 2 ) He needs help and compassion. I wish to ask the people here if they know the family members of Mr C.L.Chumber please tell them to admit him to a good psychatric ward.
    MY ANSWER IS : -YOUR GOOD SELF CLAIMED , ” I have been following the conversations here for some time.” THEN YOU MUST READ MY TWO EMAIL ADDRESSES AND MY BIO-DATA ON LINKED POSTED ON THIS BLOG BY THE M/S HAPPY HINDUS . IF YOU SAY THAT YOU DID NOT READ , THEN YOU MAY SEND YOUR GOOD SELF`S SO CALLED MEDICAL REPORT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS BLOG TO POST ME OR YOU MAY COLLECT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS FROM THEM BY REQUEST . I ASK YOUR GOOD SELF WHO HAD GIVEN YOU RIGHT TO CONTEMPT ME LIKE SUCH A HEINOUS CRIME ?
    ( 3 ) It is never too late. C.L. Chumber is in the middle stage of madness and his constant obsession with words like rape etc and continous repitition of the same themes in his posts clearly prove his insanity. Compunded to this Mr Chumber is also getting older and senile dementia has set in. If left untreated Mr Chumber can go into a permanent state of mental hallucination and madness.
    MY ANSWER IS ; – YOUR WORDING ” his constant obsession with words like rape etc ” IS THE REPETITION OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS ` COMMENTS . I CAN PRODUCE THE SAME MORE THAN TWENTY TIMES FROM THE WRITINGS OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS !!!!! I HAD REFUTED THESE CHARGES BY SAYING THAT I ALWAYS WRITE ” RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST ” OR RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM ” ! WHAT IS THE AUTHENTICITY OF YOUR GOOD SELF`S JUDGEMENT / MEDICAL REPORT ?
    ( 4 ) Mr Chumber also has lost most of his reasoning and cannot carry on intelligible conversations with people.
    MY ANSWER IS ;- I AM HERE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS FOR REASONING WITH THE FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VEDIK HINDU GODS . YOUR GOOD SELF SAID ,” cannot carry on intelligible conversations with people. ” THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM ” EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPEISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER BUT WORSHIP,DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS VAIDIK HINDU GODS AS WELL AS ABUSE ME WHO( CHUMBER ) IS AGAINST THE BOTH EVILS AND EVIL FOLLOWERS , ARE INTELLIGIBLE IN CONVERSATION BUT I AM NOT ! WHAT A PAID MEDICAL REPORT / JUDGEMENT !!!!! PLEASE READ THE REAL JUDGEMENT OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS :-
    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-
    ( 5 ) Hence I request anyone here if you know the family members of Mr Chumber, please contact them and tell them about his sorry condition. He needs immediate treatment and confinement in a psychaitric ward.
    MY ANSWER IS ; _ ” He needs help and compassion. I wish to ask the people here if they know the family members of Mr C.L.Chumber please tell them to admit him to a good psychatric ward.” IS A MENTALLY SOUND PERSON LIKE A DOCTOR REPEATS LIKE THIS TWICE ? DEAR VIEWERS CAN READ IN PARAGRAPH NO.2
    ( 6 ) He also needs to stay away from computers and internet for some time as he is inclined to start his mental recording of rapism, fascism etc.
    MY ANSWER IS ; – THE SAME WORDING ” mental recording of rapism, fascism etc.” M/S HAPPY HINDUS WROTE ALREADY . THIS THE JUST RECORDING ( ! ) OF HIM NOT THE MEDICAL REPORT !!!!! THIS SHOWS THAT M/S HAPPY HINDUS HAVE LOST THEIR E-DIALOGUE WAR AND THEY NOW WANT TO CEASE WAR FOR WHICH THEY REQUESTED ME AND FELT SORRY FOR THEIR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE WHICH I PRODUCE HERE BELOW ;-
    Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.

    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-
    THEY WANT TO KEEP ME AWAY FROM COMPUTER AND INTERNET SO THAT THERE MAY BE NO MORE WAR AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AND THEY M/S HAPPY HINDUS MAY WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .SO THAT THEY MAY DECLARE THAT ” AMBEDKAR WAS A FALSE GOD ” AND DISCARD HIM TO CHOOSE THE EVIL VAIDIK GODS !!!!!
    ( 7 )The treatment
    Chumber should not be allowed to read books which talk of hatred and violence. he should instead be given to read romantic literature and poems of Shakesphere, Wordsworth, Kalidasa etc. No political books to Chumber. As a doctor I would have preferred him not to read at all but that is difficult as Chumber reads a lot of books and very habituated to reading. Reading is a good habit but in some cases like Mr Chumber it can lead to madness. He should stay away from books related to Hinduism, religion in general, Buddhism, Ramayana, Puranas, Ambedkar, Dalits etc. He can read murder mysteries and science fiction and watch movies on these subjects.
    He should also stop reading the many newspapers he reads everyday. He is unable to handle and digest the news and current affairs information.
    Chumber should practise watching cartoon movies like donald duck, tom and jerry etc. This will relax his stressed brain cells and CNS.
    Chumber should follow a strict regimen of exercises like walking, yoga, pranayama.
    Apart from ingesting the prescribed Benzodiapines like valium chumber should exercise caution in his dietary habits.
    Chumber should also try to learn some musical instrument like violin, piano, table. It can give him a lot of relief.
    Gardening for few hours a day is also a good activity for the patient.

    MY ANSWER IS ; – DR . M.R. SATISH RAO INSTEAD OF PRESCRIBING ME THE MEDICINES , QUANTITY AND SCHEDULE OF TAKING IT , WROTE THE BANS OF MY READINGS ON BOOKS AND NEWS PAPERS .WHY ? BECAUSE I AM UNABLE TO DIGEST IT .
    I AM TO SAY THAT I KEEP MYSELF WELL INFORMED BY READING NEWS PAPERS OF DIFFERENT LANGUAGES FROM DIFFERENT PLACES OF PUBLICATIONS , MAGZINES TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ON MAIN ISSUES OF THAT PERIOD , BOOKS TO READ IN DEPTH STUDY , MEET THE PEOPLE TO DIAGONIZE THE SOCIETY TO WHOM WE TREAT TO MAKE THIS WORLD HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS ON THE BASIS OF EQUALITY , QUALITY , EQUITY , LIBERTY , FRATENITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!
    AND THESE PEOPLE WANT TO BAN ON MY READING , MOVING AND EXPRESSING VIEWS MY FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS !!!!! AND THEY SUGGEST ME TO ” read romantic literature and poems of Shakesphere, Wordsworth, Kalidasa etc.- -He can read murder mysteries and science fiction and watch movies on these subjects.
    Chumber should follow a strict regimen of exercises like walking, yoga, pranayama.
    Apart from ingesting the prescribed Benzodiapines like valium chumber should exercise caution in his dietary habits.
    Chumber should also try to learn some musical instrument like violin, piano, table. It can give him a lot of relief.
    Gardening for few hours a day is also a good activity for the patient.

    ( 8 ) Mr C.L. Chumber has lead a responsible life and raised a good and healthy family. It would be unjust that at his old age he should fall prey to compulsive obsessive insanity. But with good treatment Chumber can spend his old age in a good quality lifestyle and peace.
    Thanks.
    Dr M.R.Satish Rao
    Senior Registrar
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K
    MY ANSWER IS : – M/S HAPPY HINDUS ARE NOW CONVINCED THAT I AM A RESPONSIBLE PERSON AND RAISED A GOOD AND HEALTHY FAMILY BUT – –
    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    Chumber,

    Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.

    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).

    Without using your “rapist, racist and fascist” terms for Gods, if you can simply come ahead and describe your concept of “God”, i would be very much willing to discuss various concepts with you on the sane human level. I hope you agree to this. Please make a conscious effort and do not allow your ego to reject this. Thanks.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in

    THIS MEDICAL REPORT IS THE BRAIN CHILD OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS !!!!! IF IT IS DR. M.R. SATISH RAO `S REPORT , HE MUST GAVE HIS MOBILE / TELEPHONE NOs. , OFFICE / RESIDENTIAL / E-MAIL ADDRESSES AND WEBSITE NAME OF HIS HOSPITAL SO THAT MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND MY SYMPATHIZERS MAY CONSULT HIM !!!!! HOW CAN I CONTACT THIS GENIUS PERSON WITHOUT HIS CONTACTS ? ? ? ? ?

  93. C.L .CHUMBER said

    DR. M. R. SATISH RAO`S MEDICAL REPORT AND E-DIALOGUE ON THE RAPISTS , RASCEISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS WITH THEIR WORSHIPERS , DEFENDER AND GLORIFIERS BEING SEND TO PRESIDENTS , PRIME MINISTERS OF ALL COUNTRIES , MPs ,MLAs , MLCs OF INDIA WILL BE INTERESTED AND THEY WILL CONSIDER MY COMPLAINT .

    THEY WILL BE INTERESTED IN MY COMPLAINT AND WILL SEND IT TO THE INDOLOGY , RELIGIOUS , CRIMINOLOGY , HUMAN RIGHTS , AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THEIR UNIVERSITIES TO RESEARCH ON IT IN DEPTH !!!!!

    IT WILL NOT BE A WASTE OF TIME , EFFORT AND MONEY BECAUSE THE ISSUE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM IS MORE IMPORTANT !!!!!

    Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said,
    November 14, 2008 @ 8:06 am

    Dear Chumber,

    “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
    I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
    I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !”

    ( 1 ) Chumber your response to my post seems completely out of place. This is an internet blog and being a qualified psychatrist I was just trying to help you out for free.

    MY ANSWER IS : – I WILL RESPOND TO YOUR GOOD SELF`S JUDGEMENT . IT IS NOT RAM RAJYA WHERE INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHAMBUK SAINT WAS MURDERED BY RAMA HIMSELF AND SITA WAS HUMILIATED BY HIM TO COMMIT SUICIDE !!!!! YOU HAVE TO E-DIALOGUE WITH ME , OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE PUT BEHIND THE BARS BY THE INTERPOL !!!!!
    YOU ARE NOT HELPING ME . YOU ARE A MEMBER OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS TEAM !!!!! YOU MAY SEND ME A ONE OR TWO LINE MESSAGE WITH YOUR CONTACT NUMBERS OR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL CONTACT YOU .YOU STILL NOT GAVE .
    At your degree of mental instability you can see only what you like to see. That’s why I was asking readers here to inform your family members as they are the people who could help you. There is little you can do yourself as one of the signs of mental disorders is unconcious behaviour. You dont know what you are doing. The moment you become aware of your behaviour and actions you get cured. But that is a difficult process as there can be a host of reasons why you have ended up with this mental disorder. Briefly stated it can be either through nature or nurture – by nature I mean it can be nuerological, in that case we need to check your family history. Around 70% of psychaitric disorders are inherited and passed through the genes. By nurture I mean it can be through some traumatic incident or series of incidents or specific social influences.

    I am damned sure Presidents, prime ministers, UN, heads of all countries would not be intrested in your complaint. It will be a waste of your time, effort and money. You show a great deal of Narcissism, high degree of self importance and you believe that the world revolves around you. What do you think. A doctor tells you you are suffering from a mental disorder, and you complain and you think this is some international news. You send a mail to all the presidents of the world and UN and suddenly these guys will think – “oh how dare this doctor abuse the great Chumber”. Come on Chumber get real. You are not an international celebrity.

    The most ordinary thing in the world is that everyone feels they are extraordinary. Get it Chumber. But C L Chumber thinks is deluded that he is a well known and famous revolutionary all set to head some impending revolutionary movement. In my native city of Mysore, I knew a harmless mental patient who used to think that he was the president of the world. He used to wear a badge proclaiming the same and stand in street corners and give lectures on how he is running the world. Chumber you remind me on the same person just that in your case your disease is still in its infancy.

    Regarding my antecedants I am an FRCS and work in the old Clapham hospital in the area of forensic psychaitry. I have as my patients many psychopaths and sociopaths. My advanced skill levels and expertise helps me to recognize psychaitric disorders the moment I see one. Your case is too common and typical in our field.

    I once more ask the readers here, if you know of any family members of C.L.Chumber please inform them and get him treated by a qualified psychaitrist or a mental health institute. I recommed NIMHANS (National Institute of Mental health and Nuero sciences in Bangalore) as it is a premier institute in this field not just in India but widely recognized world over.

    Dr M.R.Satish Rao
    Senior Registrar
    Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K

    PS: “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ….”.

    BTW just curious. Would you send it to the american president. George Bush is still the president till Jan 20. Just wanted to tell you to send it to Barack Obama as well – just in case this case goes beyond Jan 20. After Obama is sworn in as the president we can still discuss your complaint with him. See you later in the White House.

    I WILL SEND IT TO BOTH USA , NEW ZEALAND`S NEW PRESIDENTS IN PRINT !!!!

  94. mesquiteice said

    Chumber ,

    Is this how you answer:

    You said:
    I WILL ANSWER .
    FIRST OF ALL YOU DISCARD THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS !!!!!
    THEN YOU FEEL SORRY FOR DEROGATORY PERSONAL REMARKS AGAINST ME .
    THIRDLY , YOU FEEL SORRY FOR JOINING THE ABUSIVE AND IRRATIONAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TEAM .
    FOURTH , YOU MUST CONDEMN THE VAIDIK ABUSERS , OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOT ETHICAL PERSON !!!!!

  95. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I HAVE COMPLETED SIX MONTHS IN E-DIALOGUE WITH YOUR GOOD SELVES !!!!!

    IT IS TOO MUCH ABUSIVE , MUD SLASHING TO CONTINUE FURTHER !!!!!

    I DO NOT WISH TO E-DIALOGUE WITH THOSE WHO CREATE NUISANCE INSTEAD OF E-DIALOGUE !!!!!

    I WILL E-DIALOGUE WITH MY SERIOUS FRIENDS !!!!!

    I again set my pre-conditions again !!!!!

    I WILL ANSWER .
    FIRST OF ALL YOU DISCARD THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS !!!!!
    THEN YOU FEEL SORRY FOR DEROGATORY PERSONAL REMARKS AGAINST ME .
    THIRDLY , YOU FEEL SORRY FOR JOINING THE ABUSIVE AND IRRATIONAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TEAM .
    FOURTH , YOU MUST CONDEMN THE VAIDIK ABUSERS , OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOT ETHICAL PERSON !!!!!

  96. C.L .CHUMBER said

    OUR TRUE GOD WILL BLESS THE ALL CREATURES TO BE GENIUS !!!!!

    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    CHUMBER,

    AM THOROUGHLY ASHAMED BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING COZ I DO NOT WANT MY WORDS TO BE MISUSED BY YOU AGAIN !!!!!

    AM POSTING THIS HEARTFELT APPRECIATION FOR YOU CHUMBER !!!!!

    DESPITE MY CALLING SUCH HORRIBLE NAMES REPEATEDLY , STILL YOU DID NOT RETALIATE AND CALL ME NAMES !!!!!

    YOU HAVE MORE PATIENCE , MORE KINDNESS AND MORE PERSEVERANCE THAN WHAT I AM CAPABLE OF , CHUMBER !!!!!

    BE BLESSED ( IN WHATEVER WAY THAT MAKES YOU HAPPY ) .

    lavanyamural said,
    November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    Chumber,

    Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.

    Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).

  97. C.L .CHUMBER said

    WHERE IS DR. M . R . SATISH RAO ? PLEASE CONTACT ME THROUGH https://dalitnation.wordpress.com

  98. C.L .CHUMBER said

    DR. M.R. SATISH RAO IS IN THE BAD COMPANY OF VHP ,U.K.THAT IS WHY HE IS WORSHIPER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ! ! ! ! !

    HE IS NOT MENTALLY SOUND ! ! ! ! !

    HE IS UNETHICAL SO-CALLED DOCTOR ! ! ! ! !

    M/S HAPPY HINDUS DID NOT REFUTED MY CHARGES THAT THIS SO-CALLED MEDICAL REPORT IS THE BRAIN CHILD OF THEM !!!!!

    Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said,
    November 18, 2008 @ 8:07 am

    Hello Mr. Chumber,

    Over the weekend, I had been to the Isle of Man in the UK to witness a marriage between an Indian man and British woman, both friends of mine. This indian man to your knowledge and horror is from the Brahmin community and is a Hindu member of a group called VHP UK.

  99. C.L .CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! MR. MESQUITEICE IS NOW MOHAMMAD MESQUITEICE !!!!!

    I HAVE ASKED TO ” DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!! ”

    I NEVER PREACHED HATERED AGAINST GOD AND ALLAH !!!!!

    I AM AGAINST THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!

    WHEN WERE YOU CONVERTED TO ISLAM ? ? ? ? ?

    YOUR GOOD SELF WROTE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST HAZRAT MOHAMMAD IN THIS BLOG ! ! ! ! !

    WHAT IS YOUR STAND NOW ? ? ? ? ?

    Mesquiteice said,
    November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am

    Chumber,

    You said “DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!”

    I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being.

    why are you preaching hatered against Allah.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/narendra-modi-and-the-fall-of-hindut

  100. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE FIRST OF ALL SOLVE YOUR FAMILY PROBLEMS !!!!!

    PLEASE DO NOT WORSHIP THE EVILS !!!!!

    PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE ANY BODY IF YOU ARE STAUNCH FOLLOWERS OF EVILS !!!!!

    Mesquiteice said,

    December 1, 2008 @ 12:46 pm

    Chumber,

    I prefer mesquiteice-ul-haq.

    Please read chapter 109

    109:6 You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion

    I wish to correct one more this. I did not write anything against Hazrat Mohammed. You are the one calling others Allah as bad. I only wanted to show you that problems are everywhere.

    mesquiteice said,

    November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    Chumber,

    Please let me know your latest stand on:-

    1) Why people pray to Allah
    2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
    3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child

  101. Deepankar Madiga said

    Dear V.T.Rajshekar

    You are my teacher. My Guru. You have opened my eyes to the bullshit that Brahminism preaches.
    I am a dalit and belong to the Madiga caste. Ever since I started reading Dalit Voice and your writings I have worked towards strenghtening our caste identity. We are madigas and madigas foremost – thats our motto.

    Thanks for enlightening us on the Brahminical politics of vegetarianism. As a Dalit working in IISC I was gravitating towards Brahminism by the process called as Sanskritization which is nothing but Manudharma. But you saved me. Now I eat beef three times a day. For breakfast, lunch and dinner. As rightly pointed out by you my libido has incresed. I fathered four children in five years. Yes Four healthy dalit kids who can kick brahmins up their balls and tear their sacred thread. My muscles have grown strong. I am planning to go for the next olympics. My brain cells have soaked in the protein intake. I might even get a Nobel Prize soon but I also need to fight with brahmin professors in IISC. This hydra headed cobra of brahmins in IISC is hard to fight. But you have given me tools. Thanks thanks once again.
    Thanks to you dear VTR. But only problem is how to get good quality beef. The mussalmans are the only ones who sell beef and they sell beef of mainly diseased cows and oxen. Anyway I will find a solution to this problem soon. Maybe open a slaughterhouse myself in Sadashivnagar Bangalore. I am sure upper caste folks here will prevent me. But not for nothing have i learnt Thai kick boxing. Not for nothing am i a devotee of Kadgadhari buddha.
    Yes I also stopped doing Vipassana meditation. That fat ass bania fooled me for so long. Thanks again to you. I am now using this time to learn martial arts and thai kick boxing. I plan to kick some brahmin faggots soon.

    I want Dalits to make you prime minister of India till you die. You should take over India and become the supreme most dictator. Thats the only way to bring revolution. I am sure we can send the Brahmins to their Uttarnchal or even finish them off in concentration camps. That serves them right.
    We should make Dalit Voice as the #1 national news paper. The brahminical toilet papers should be shut down. Indians should read only Dalit Voice and Dalit Voice nothing else. I am even ashamed to call myself Indian because of the fact that people read toilet papers like TOI, Indian Express and Hindu. They should be reading Dalit Voice as it is the most enlightening as well as entertaining news bulletin from the whole world. It is unfortunate that nobody in India even considers you to be intelligent. You are the most intelligent person in the world after Buddha and babasaheb. Even dalit intellectuals call you a madcap and they want you to be admitted to a lunatic asylum like NIMHANS. All these so called intellectuals how can they understand revolutionaries and intellects like you. They are hallucinating under Brahmin Herion, morphine, cocaine, LSD.
    Let me tell you this dear VTR – you are the mahdi whom the muslims have been waiting for, you are second coming of christ and the maitereya buddha well nigh you are the Kadgadhari Buddha. I want to put a picture of you make an idol and worship you as kadgadhari buddha. Unfortunately there is only one picture of you in internet. Not just worship you I am putting all you say in practise. You are my supreme most guru. Sometimes even ambedkar pales into insignificance when your intellect shines through every golden word written in Dalit Voice.
    I am seething with anger that no one considers you seriously. The greatest living revolutionary in the world is living in a rented house in Bangalore.
    You are also a prophet not just a revolutionary. You have predicted Obama win and also economic depression. I stand in awe on your majesty. I have no words to speak just dumbstruck. I do not know how to describe you. Maybe I should chew my beef steak even more.
    I am now planning to open the first beef steak restraunt in India which will serve beef soup, beef burgers, beef curry and beef deserts. The brahminical faggots will urinate in their pants. I will invite you to inagurate the first Beef restraunt where we will slaughter and feast on the Brahminical Gomata. I have so may plans. You have given me so many avenues. Thanks Thanks Thanks

    Your Most Dutiful Student,
    Dr. Deepankar Madiga, Phd
    Dalit Revolutionary Activist

  102. @Deepankar Madiga Fucking A! This is too hilarious man. You are too good!

  103. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Dear Deepankar Madiga ,

    Will you please suggest me some books in any lanuage on the Adi-Andhra , Adi-Dravida and Adi-Karnatka movements ? Will you please supply adresses of the writers or organisations concerning these movements and people .

    Please produce maximum literature and arrange seminars .

    With good wishes ,
    c.l.chumber@gmail.com

  104. PAPPU KUNDANPURI said

    YOUR POSTS ARE NOT PART OF BIGGER CONVERSATION , THESE ARE PART OF A BIGGER ONE SIDE ABUSIVE CONVERSATION .

    MR. CHUMBER IS GIVING EVIDENCE FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES .

    EVERY RELIGION HAS TO GIVE ANSWER , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOST ITS CREDIBILITY .

    MR. GALLELIO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS REVOLVING ROUND THE SUN NOT THE SUN ROUND THE EARTH .

    HE WAS SENTENCED BY THE POPE FOR HIS VIEWS .

    BUT IN 1992 AD , THE SAME POPE RELEASED THE POSTAL STAMP IN GALLILIO`S MEMORY .

    WE HAVE TO FIND ANSWERS REGARDING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .

    WE HAVE TO ANSWER WHY WE RECOGNIZE BRAHMA AND VISHANU AS GODS .

    mesquiteice said,

    December 2, 2008 @ 7:17 am

    Pappu Kundanpuri,

    Thank you for taking time to post you comments regarding my posts.

    Please dont read my posts in isolation because they are part of a bigger conversation.

    In the post mentioned above, i was disscussing with a person called Chumber.

    He had given a list of questions about Hindu gods and was using offensive language against Hindu gods.

    I was trying to tell him that there are certain questions which cannot be answered whether Hindu or Muslim.

    I wanted to tell chumber that just like he cannot answer questions like “why people pray” Hindus also cannot anwer questions like “why did brahma do this and vishnu do that”

    Try to see all the posts before commenting.

  105. lavanyamuralidharan said

    Deepankar Madiga,

    I understand your anger against politicians like VT Rajshekhar who exploit the financially-unfortunate sections for either foreign funds or politican gain.

    But, I request you not to make fun of those financially-unfortunate people (or dalits as you may wish to call them).

  106. C . L. CHUMBER said

    Mr.Deepankar Madiga neither shown anger against Mr. VT Rajshekhar nor he is politicians .M/s happy Hindus are cunning to distort the wrtings .

    Deepankar Madiga said,

    December 3, 2008 @ 10:16 am

    Dear V.T.Rajshekar

    You are my teacher. My Guru. You have opened my eyes to the bullshit that Brahminism preaches.

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 3:41 am

    Deepankar Madiga,

    I understand your anger against politicians like VT Rajshekhar who exploit the financially-unfortunate sections for either foreign funds or politican gain.

  107. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said

    HE ( CHUMBER ) WILL BE SURELY A CHAMPION LIKE OBAMA . I PRAY FOR IT .

    mesquiteice said,

    December 2, 2008 @ 7:59 am

    Ram Krishan Sharma,

    Like you I also feel bad. Not only sanjam, a lot of others have also been abusing chumber. Some of them have even apologised and requested chumber to behave himself.

    YOU ARE A GROUP OF ABUSER ADOLESCENTS MENTALLY .YOU APPOLOGESE AND THEN START TO ABUSE . WHAT IS WRONG IN MR. CHUMBER . WE MUST READ OUR SCRIPTURES AND BE THANKFUL TO HIM WHO CAUTIONED US .

    But one thing you should you should understand is that Mr.Chumber, has been abusing everybody. How can Mr. Chumber who does not know how to respect others and their faiths ever be respected by others.

    MR. CHUMBER PASTED YOUR ABUSES . YOU MAY PASTE HIS ABUSES BUT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY AGAINST HIM EXEPT ABUSING HIM . YOU PEOPLE EVEN SAID ,” LAXMAN WILL RAPE CHUMBER`S MOTHER AND SISTERS .” IS THIS YOUR FAITH . YOU PEOPLE WROTE ” AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS .” FIRST YOU DESERVE , THEN YOU DESIRE .

    Give Respect and Take Respect

    FIRST YOU DESERVE , THEN YOU DESIRE . ABUSERS CAN NEVER GET RESPECT EVEN FROM SLAVES .

    I request your goodself to advice chumber to “Live and Let Live”.

    I CAN NOT ADVISE MR. CHUMBER TO ” LIVE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU ” . I EVEN ADVISE HIM TO SHOOT THE HABITUAL ABUSER GANG SO THAT PEOPLE MAY LEARN A GOOD LESSON .

    He is continously abusing other faiths, our country, the judiciary etc.

    HE IS NOT ABUSING . HE SHED LIGHT ON OUR FILTHY RELIGIOUS , ADMINISTRATIVE AND JUDICIAL SYSTEMS WITH REFERENCES . HE HAS REPRODUCED THE LIST OF CORRUPT ONE SITTING JUDGE OF SUPREME COURT , 10 HIGH COURT JUDGES AND 25 DISTT. SESSION JUDGES FROM THE OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEEKLY MAGAZINE . DO YOU LIKE CORRUTION OR HONESTY .MR. CHUMBER IS VERY HONEST PERSON .

    While i feel sorry for chumber as much as you do, how can we stop sanjam unless chumber stops abusing others faiths.

    YOU ARE NOT HONEST . DO YOU LIKE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS .ONE THING IS CLEAR FROM THE WRITINGS OF CHUMBER , HE WILL NOT TOLERATE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND HE WILL DEFINITELY PUT SANJAM LIKE PEOPLE BEHIND BARS . HE WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL LEGALLY .WE ARE WITH TRUTH , OTHERWISE THE COMMUNAL HATERED FEELINGS WILL DEVELOP .

    You said”Who have authorized him to abuse Mr.Chumber ”

    I ask you “Who have authorised Mr. Chumber to abuse others faiths and gods and religions”

    YOU ARE NOT HONEST . DO YOU LIKE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS .

    Just like you i also know that Chumber is a potential champion. Let us hope that he will behave himself and create a atmosphere for everybody will respect him.

    HE IS FIGHTING WITH YOU WITH DO OR DIE SPIRIT TO CREATE A ATMOSPHERE OF RESPECT TO EVERYONE . ABUSERS CAN GIVE NO RESPECT AND WILL GET DISRESPECT .WHEN MR. CHUMBER WILL PUT THIS HINDU GODS IN PRESS CONFERENCES AS HE ANNOUNCED WHAT WILL BE OUR STAND .HE WILL BE SURELY A CHAMPION LIKE OBAMA . I PRAY FOR IT .

    Now as far as you are concerned ” Who have authorised you to represent entire community and humanity”. Please dont preach hatered. If you believe your gods are outdated that is your own belief.

    YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE MODERN MAIN HINDU SAINTS ARE MAINLY SHUDRAS .IT IS TRUE THAT OUR GODS OUT OF DATE . NEITHER YOU NOR I AM REPRESENTATIVE OF ANY COMMUNITY . THE COMMUNITES ARE REBUILDING .I DO NOT PREACH HATERED .

    Why are you using “OUR”. If you believe so you are free to choose which ever god you feel is on date. This why people did not like Chumber. Dont repeat the same things.

    THE BAD PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE GOOD PEOPLE AND VICE VERSA .I LIKE AND RESPECT MR. CHUMBER LIKE REVOLUTIONARY THINKER .

    Just like you feel that your god is outdated others feel that their gods are up to date.

    WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC WORLD . OBAMA BEING A BLACK WON THE WHITE HOUSE DUE TO HIS SLOGAN ” WE CAN DO .” RACISTS AND FASCISTS WILL BE DETHRONED EVERY WHERE WHETHER IN RELIGIOUS FIELD .

    Did anybody ask you wheter their gods are upto date.

    DID ANYONE ASK TO ANSWER TO MY VIEWS ?

    We are all Indians. Learn to respect others and everybody will respect you.

    THEN WHY ARE YOU OPPOSING MR. CHUMBER`S INTER-CASTE MARRIAGES IDEA ? AS FAR AS WE BELIEVE IN BRAHMA , WE CAN NOT RESPECT EACH OTHER DUE TO HIS CASIEST MENTALITY .

    DO YOU RESPECT A RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST DEVILS ? I NEED RESPECT FROM RESPECTFUL PERSONS .

  108. mesquiteice said

    Pappu Kundanpuri,

    you said “MR. GALLELIO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS REVOLVING ROUND THE SUN NOT THE SUN ROUND THE EARTH”

    I ask you after so many centuries. Can you prove that earth is revolving round the sun and not sun round the earth.

    Go run and get a book on astronomy and try to make sense out of it.

    Gallelio’s idea was a research about astronomy. He did not talk bad about jesus christ or pope. That is why he is rememebed till today.

    Whereas you are talkin about persons and stories. In fact the Hindu mythology found out what gallileo said many centuries ago.That is why if you visit “Navagraha”, The sun is in the centre and the planets are set around it. Go and read.

    You have miles to go before you understand the difference between as FACTS, FICTIONS, STORIES

  109. C.L.CHUMBER said

    EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER

    EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM including CHUMBER

    lavanyamuralidharan said,

    December 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

    I was the one who said: EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER – Mesquiteice did not say that. I will rephrase the sentence to EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM INCLUDING CHUMBER BUT CHUMBER IS MISTAKEN THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST, FASCIST. Satisfied?

  110. C.L.CHUMBER said

    RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said,

    December 4, 2008 @ 3:31 pm

    YOU ARE A GROUP OF ABUSER ADOLESCENTS MENTALLY .YOU APPOLOGISE AND THEN START TO ABUSE . WHAT IS WRONG IN MR. CHUMBER ? WE MUST READ OUR SCRIPTURES AND BE THANKFUL TO HIM WHO CAUTIONED US .

  111. SanJAm said

    Deepankar Madiga,

    PHD?

    PHD in what? Eating VT Rajshekhar’s Shit?
    or Licking VT Rajshekhar’s Balls?
    PHD in screwing your wife and creating dalit maggots?
    PHD in spewing bullshit!

    Bloody arsehole thinks he’s a doctor,
    listen mr deepankar madiga,,, make a beef bar and eat as many cows as you want,,, but brahmins will still be better off than insects like you. not even a single brahmin in this world will even bother an atom at your stupid ambitions,,, go and eat all the dogs as well, stray dogs are a major problem in our country.

    bloody jerks.
    VT Rajshekhar is greatest revolutionary?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA
    Nobody even blinks at that bastard! nobody gives a damn to hatemongers.
    and go and f&*k your mother deepankar madiga,,, unless you want brahmins do to the dirty deed instead.
    also strengthen your caste identity, like rest of the world cares a shit about caste.
    another misguided jerk will ruin his life on VT rajshekhar (shit-hole), spewing venom.
    all the best for your life of hatred and crap!
    peky jerks!

  112. C.L .CHUMBER said

    MR. SANJAM IS A VERY GOOD ABUSER BUT VERY POOR IN REASONING !!!!!

  113. mesquiteice said

    Pappu Kundanpuri,

    you said “MR. GALLELIO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS REVOLVING ROUND THE SUN NOT THE SUN ROUND THE EARTH”

    I ask you after so many centuries. Can you prove that earth is revolving round the sun and not sun round the earth.

    Go run and get a book on astronomy and try to make sense out of it.

    Gallelio’s idea was a research about astronomy. He did not talk bad about jesus christ or pope. That is why he is rememebed till today.

    Whereas you are talkin about persons and stories. In fact the Hindu mythology found out what gallileo said many centuries ago.That is why if you visit “Navagraha”, The sun is in the centre and the planets are set around it. Go and read.

    You have miles to go before you understand the difference between as FACTS, FICTIONS, STORIES

  114. lavanyamuralidharan said

    MR. SANJAM IS A VERY GOOD ABUSER BUT VERY POOR IN REASONING !!!!!
    —————

    And how would you rate yourself Mr.Chumber?

  115. C.L .CHUMBER said

    I AM NEITHER ABUSER NOR WORSHIPER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .

  116. happyhindu said

    I AM NEITHER ABUSER NOR WORSHIPER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .
    ——————-

    Since you have made your pronouncements on what you think of others, here is what others think of you:

    1) Narcissist
    2) Mad
    3) Willy, divisive
    4) Moron
    5) Pathologocal liar

  117. C.L .CHUMBER said

    THIS SHOWS YOUR BENT OF MANUWADI MIND !

  118. happyhindu said

    THIS SHOWS YOUR BENT OF MANUWADI MIND !
    ——————

    And obssession with rape shows your hatered bent of mind.

  119. mesquiteice said

    Chumber,

    you said “MR. GALLELIO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS REVOLVING ROUND THE SUN NOT THE SUN ROUND THE EARTH”

    I ask you after so many centuries. Can you prove that earth is revolving round the sun and not sun round the earth.

    Go run and get a book on astronomy and try to make sense out of it.

    Gallelio’s idea was a research about astronomy. He did not talk bad about jesus christ or pope. That is why he is rememebed till today.

    Whereas you are talkin about persons and stories. In fact the Hindu mythology found out what gallileo said many centuries ago.That is why if you visit “Navagraha”, The sun is in the centre and the planets are set around it. Go and read.

    You have miles to go before you understand the difference between as FACTS, FICTIONS, STORIES

  120. kumarpush said

    Dear Buddhist Bandu,Dalai Lama is a CIA agent he is getting 8 millions dollar from America.Dalai Lama and his clan are practising black magic and propagating the brahminism.in 1959 he had run away from tibet and left other people to revolt in tibet.In tibet 5 dalai Lama were killed previously because they were very cruel and barbaric toward slaves..Dalai lama belong to princy class and remaining were slaves in tibet who were not having any rights even to marry with some body.now all these slaves are happy in china because they are getting education and health.I have lot of matrials on dalai Lama which was discussed priviously in FBMO.time has come Buddhist of Indis should hand over Dalai lama to china so we can save our Buddhist religion In India.we should ask him from where he is getting mony to run his government in India.

  121. happyhindu said

    Kureela@Kumarpaush,

    Propagating falsehood again? For what?

    Why bring Dalai Lama into the pic and that too as a CIA agent?

    All this stupidity is intended to lead to where?

  122. kureela said

    Dear Happyhindu,could you tell me how Dalai Lama is running his government in exile from where he is getting fund to feed three hundred thousand fat cats.He is being finance by CIA .He came to India with help of American goverment and time has come he should be throw out to china as early as possible.

  123. happyhindu said

    Dear Kureela@Kumarpaush,

    Dalai Lama is a refugee. The Indian government recognizes Tibetans as refugees.

    The Tibetans earn their living and support themselves. Their wollen clothes are sold all over India. They are not fed by anyone. Many live in poverty.

    They beseeched the American government for help when China brutally took over Tibet. The Americans did not help.

    Americans do not help where they do not have profit or intangible benefit for themselves. Even India failed them.

    How the Dalai Lama escaped to India is well documented as history. No use propagating your falsehood.

    You people are against them because they represent true buddhism. It bothers you that they are not against any religion. They always embraced all.

    Which idiot will beleive that those 22 vows of dumbedkar buddism constitutes anything called buddhism?

    It is clear what dalitnation seeks to establish – you guys want to promote enemity in the name of religion, caste, creed; fracture the indian society, fail businesses, fail the government, cause internal strife, cause communal fights, cause civil war. And then do what? Invite the British or China?

    Its clear the Brits will never do any colonialism thingy again – there are stupid zealot missionaries amongst them that think they are doing god’s work. That’s it. Otherwise they are not a threat of that kind. That leaves who? Pakistan?

    Kureela, all indians are not emotional fools to allow themselves to sucker up to their various social identities. Never forget that.

  124. Muthukaruppan B said

    Re: Chumber, I suspect he is a crypto-Christian propagandist who wants first to denigrate Hinduism without understanding the details in their true formulation and spirit, and then to, invite, by suggestion, to get converted. He wants readers to veer round to his view that Buddhism is not the alternative to those who want an option for abandoning Hinduism, by making out a fiction of Brahmin Buddhism and non-Brahmin Buddhism. Mr Venkata says “Chumber CLAIMS he is not a muslim. He lies”, that is he believes Chumber is a Muslim, or more precisely, maybe, a kind of an argumentative (non-violent) Muslim who wants to propagate his religion for Hindus who are ‘tortured’ by its casteism. I believe Mr Chumber is a virulent type of a Christian propagandist wearing a mask to hide his identity. Often he has replayed many of the hate-filled utterances which nowadays are made in massive Christian “gospel” meets for which poor, illiterate, or diseased people are mobilized to attend. I am personally not against – and I am sure many others are not against too – the socalled “Dalits” putting up a common front in order eventually to get absorbed in the social and economic mainstream of national life by moving for suitable laws, misusing Dalit mobilization for religious conversion (mostly Christian and to a smaller extent, Buddhist, nowadays) should be fought against. India lost heavily due to disunity when the Muslim invaders indulged in ruthless devastation of property, desecration of HIndu temples, and forced conversions to Islam, which finally led to dismemberment of a culturally well-knit society on religious grounds with a huge but faster-rising population of Muslims, a tiny, maybe growing, fraction of whom is definitely traitorous colluders with global Jehadi forces. Question now we need to address is, whether we need another partition of this dismembered India in the name of religion – because of the possible increase in Jihadists on our soil, on the one hand, and the demand for “Dalits” and other caste groups, which are being deceived by Christian propaganda ? Are our resource endowments manageable under that scenario ? How can an average Indian forget that India’s superior cultural, philosophical and religious traditions and traditions be allowed to swept off due to tolerance exceeding our proven traditional limits which enabled us to assimilate what was good in other religious traditions ?

    But the interests of Dalits as a community – which Mr Chumber on this website is trying to misuse for some hidden agenda – are a serious issue which need to be addressed by Hindus before their remaining population is lured into conversion (by Christianity, whose ability to convert anyone on a SPIRITUAL plane is suspect, given the historically intolerant attitudes and practices of the Church in denigrating other religions and persecuting opponents of the clearly absurd parts of it). We should never forget that although Hinduism proclaims that all paths of religion (or all religions) lead to the same goal, sages (from different geographical regions of Earth) call the one, almighty, omniscient, benevolent God by different names. It is the philosophies which differ between religons, that divides mankind although every religion may be supposed to aim at uniting a part of the earth under one common umbrella of faith in that region. Quite unfortunately, Islam and Christianity do NOT agree on the fundamental philosophy of Hinduism, namely, the fundamental unity of all life, human and nonhuman, including plant and animal, through a universal consciousness. Christianity despises the soul of an individual (which the Vedas proclaim runs as a single inseparable entity through all life, and is the same as the Cosmic Self which masterminds all cosmos). The non-Hindu religions emphasise merely the common unifying principles for mankind, namely love, compassion, truth and the like, which, without the essence of philosophy foundation, will merely end up as mere platitudes – how else do you account for the enormlous upheaval, unrest, crime and other negative features that characterise (predominantly) Christian and Islam nations ? It is due to the result of materialism which mere principles of love, compassion, etc. sans the philosophical truth of universal and individual selves being one and the same indivisible entity.

    IT IS ABSOLUTELY STUPID TO TRY AND UPHOLD THE HISTORICAL PRACTICE OF KEEPING ANY SECTIONS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ACCIDENT OF BIRTH AS UNTOUNCHABLES OR OUTSIDE THE MAINSTRREAM. Our religious heads must be held responsible for not doing something drastic on this front. They must mobilise social support so that Hinduism will embrace these under-privileged brethren to come on the same plank, with some concessions for past neglect them, to get educated, provided hospital facilities, and be allowed to use the same places of worship as the rest of the Hindu society. The Vedic society recognized only four Varnas which were not based on heredity/ lineage of birth, but decided by the Gunas of Sattva, Rajas and Tamas, which characterize individual, and of which, the individual specific characteristic is understood by each individual to follow an occupation suiting that temperament. Castes are NOT Vedic or Hindu, they are imported, in some forgotten past, from, maybe Africa, and are likely to be of tribal origin. They were in fact CATEGORIZED into just four Varnas in the Vedic wisdom. Non Hindu religions wrongly denigrate the Vedas, due to the inoperability of a non-Varna-based society, which means, everyone will follow one and the same path of mterialism and maximum possessions and acquisitons, which can never stand, like a one-footed chair (which can only be kept stable by artificial equilibrium), and which therefore will perish. Let us clearly understand the wisdom of the Vedas which state that the Varna system is God-designed, a natural system if you will, and can only be tampered with by man by artificial and contrived arguments of political ideologies – for ex., Capitalism will ruin society since everyone has to aim for more and more, subscribing to shares in corporates that increase fastest due to the market chance factors (depending on management to exploit them). Communism wants (or wanted?) labour supremacy as though the rest of society was inferior. Both these failed or are showing their ugly teeth increasingly, and getting more and more popular.

    Vedic Hinduism combines, by means of its philosophical finding, the social ethos, politics and safety and security of ALL ecology, not just mankind, and aims at going on to higher forms of evolution.

  125. Muthukaruppan B said

    I wrote the above and submitted my thoughts in the first draft itself. Upon verification, I find that though there are a few rather difficult setnences (due to length), this one needs to be corrected. I write the corrected sentence ==>

    “Non Hindu religions wrongly denigrate the Vedas, due to the inoperability of a non-Varna-based society which they never considered in their philosophical moorings. This denigration means, it is correct for everyone tol follow, DESPITE INBORN DIFFERENCES IN TEMPERAMENT AND LIMITATION OF POTENTIAL CAPABILITY, one and the same path of mterialism and maximum possessions and acquisitons, which can never stand, like a one-footed chair (which can only be kept stable by artificial equilibrium), and which ….

  126. kumarpush said

    Dear happyhindu,refugee donot travel by charted plane,we donot require any black magic in name of buddhist religion ,you hindus get chillies in mouth by reading the 22 vows.you have not seen tibet and talking about Tibet.we have photograph of 1959 uprising in tibet ,who had supplied the guns to fight against the china.Tibet is the integral part of China and Dalai Lama has accepted it 2008.time has come we should throw him as early as possible from India.

  127. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I AM NEITHER HINDU NOR PRO-CONVERSION OF ABORIGINAL INDIANS AS I AM OF THE OPINION THAT THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS HAVE THEIR OWN RELIGION WHICH WAS PREACHED BY THE NIRGUN SANTS OF THE BHAKATI MOVEMENT AND THE ADI-DHARAM BY BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA ( 14.1.1886-22.4.1980 ).

    Mr.Muthukaruppan B ( January 3, 2009 @ 3:50 pm ) is of absent mind ! I hereby give two examples from his writing under reference :-
    1.Re: Chumber, I suspect he is a crypto-Christian propagandist who wants first to denigrate Hinduism without understanding the details in their true formulation and spirit, and then to, invite, by suggestion, to get converted.
    2.Mr Venkata says “Chumber CLAIMS he is not a muslim. He lies”, that is he believes Chumber is a Muslim, or more precisely, maybe, a kind of an argumentative (non-violent) Muslim who wants to propagate his religion for Hindus who are ‘tortured’ by its casteism.

    Had I supported any religion ever except the Adi-Dharam ?

    How do you dare to blame me without any proofs ?

    I think that the children of prostitutes blame others without proofs !!!!!

    They have no dignity and want to treat others filthy way .

    I always use parliamentary language and no civilized person like the unparliamentary languge !

    Almost all the Indo Aryan Vaidik Hindu writers of this blog use filthy language with proud .This is due to theirs uncultured family ground and uncultured religion .

  128. happyhind said

    Kumarpaush@Kureela,

    How many times has the Dalai Lama travelled by chartered plane? Do not allege like this.

    And how abt new age gurus like Deepak Chopra who travel by chartered plane. When some rich tycoons want some peace of mind, they like to send a chartered place to bring someone to listen to some soothing words.

    If you are truly living in India, you would have seen how the Tibetans have been living in shanty dwellings in near poverty. No matter how much you allege, the reality is already present all around for everyone to see. Your allegations only look shameful on you.

    Obviously you have not seen how Tibetans live in India because you are an Aurangzeb-praising Pakistani not living amongst Indians.

  129. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    You have lost ground on your lies and allegations. So now you are bad-mouthing.

    You have not given any proof from hindu scriptures about hindu gods indulging in rapism, racism adn fascism. You lied and lied and lost it.

    Before you talk about other people’s birth, remeber that Punjabis were frequently attacked by muslims and born out of rape. And i can proove this to you.

    And do not be so stupid enuf to keep calling others as uncultured, when a liar politician like you does not even know what culture is.

    You talk so much Adi-Dharam as a seperate religion. Tell me what is original in it?

    You just change the scriptures, write your own rubbish, your hidden political statements, and then you ask to be recognized as a seperate religion?

    Sure you will be given a seperate religion stand based on what you said. So you answer this:: You yourself have said that if you are recognized as a seperate religion, you will give up your demand on reservations; Now i want you to write about it in Ambedkar Times. Or else i myself will write about this to a newspaper of repute; and quote everything you have said. Let others decide what kind of a politician you are.

  130. happyhind said

    I always use parliamentary language and no civilized person like the unparliamentary languge !
    ———–

    A liar calls himself as using parliamentary language !!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a joke !!!!!!!!!!!

    Chumber, don’t bother about explaining what kind of a person you are. Its already so obvious.

    And yes, i can prove to you whether or not you are an aboriginal indian born out of rape or not. Remember that whatever you allege will eventually come back to you.

  131. C.L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ ” FAMILY BACK GROUND ” IN STEAD OF ” FAMILY GROUND ” IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH .
    C.L.CHUMBER said,

    January 4, 2009 @ 2:33 pm

  132. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    During the times of Ambedkar and EVR, there was no economic liberalization. They thought that by following the varnadharma, poor people will remain poor and stuck to heredity positions.

    Undoubtedly, ‘dalits’ had been treated badly by some power-hungry egoistic folk. So, Ambedkar-EVR’s idea of bringing about social equality by doing dramatic things applied to their times.

    Now if someone attempts such dramatic stuff like stoning idols, burning smirthis, etc, he will simply be ignored as a madman. Coz now no one bothers what you burn and what you stone. People are more interested in ways to make money and improve their lives, than in religion and humbug.

    Similarly now no one admits claims by brahmins or anyone else about being superior. There never was anything called inferior or superior. There were only claims, some were just more vociferous and convincing than the others at certain times.

    Poeple cud write down stuff, claim descent, build insane geneologies, claim kshatriya status or recognition of zamindariship based on even just a single old letter that might not even have belonged to them; and so on. Even ppl who cud afford a bunglow and some land declared themselves kshatriyas. Enuf damage has been done because of such crazy ‘caste’ claims.

    All these castes that we see now came into being only in the puranic period. And some are as new as just abt 100 years old. Around 1AD, some iyers and some kallars must have shared the same parents as per genetic studies.

    All those old mother castes, mother groupings have gone. And we now have just “derivatives” of those old groupings, spread out across various present-day “castes”. I do find it utterly stupid for these “derivatives” to make community origin claims and various other claims of the sort they make . Someday, science will certainly rewrite history. At the current rate of info-explosion, perhaps within the next 15 years maximum.

    Anti-brahminism and hinduism-bashing done by Ambedkar and EVR came about becoz at that time the society was mired in stupid superstitious beliefs, some brahmins wrongly portrayed themselves as ritually important and powerful, throwing casteist remarks was common, poverty was rampant and india had nearly almost stopped producing stalwarts in arts and science.

    Now there is internet, various media forms, no untouchability, economic conditions are different, there is growing awareness, more info is available, research helps piece jigsaw puzzles of the past together and sensibilities have changed.

    So the only things that anti-brahmanism and anti-hindusim serve now in the present times is that it merely helps anti-indians such as missionaries and politicians to make a living, it helps divisive forces cause economic breakdown, helps anti-indians that want to weaken the judiciary and military by claiming reservations, and so on.

    Now Chumber one cares which god did what, who came from where, and such rubbish. Your making allegations makes no diff either. Atleast if there was some truth in your allegations abt rape / race, you cud have been viewed in a better light. But you just alleged and lied all the way thru.

    The fact that you are a politician publishing your name and contact details to seek attention from blogs and small-time papers is enuf to attest to the fact that you are unsucessful. You do not want to integrate, do not want others to integrate and thrive on self-importance by keeping divisions alive.

    I do certainly believe Chumber that someday politicians like you will be beaten up by ‘dalits’ themselves for preventing them from integrating into mainstream society.

    And this is my last post to you until you provide proof from actual scriptures about your allegations of rape endorsement. If there is, only then we will talk. And i shall wait for you until march to write in Ambedkar Times about your views on giving up reservations for a seperate religion status. Otherwise, I shall write to a newspaper about the demerits of the reservation system in the hands of present day politicians, including petty ones like Chumber; and email the article to you.

    Otherwise, its goodbye from my end.

    May good sense prevail. Jai hind.

  133. happyhind said

    Correction:

    Now Chumber NO one cares which god did what, who came from where, and such rubbish. Your making allegations makes no diff either. Atleast if there was some truth in your allegations abt rape / race, you cud have been viewed in a better light. But you just alleged and lied all the way thru.

  134. kumarpushp said

    Dalai Lama and his all chelas are tevelling by chrted plane.Have you seen securities for dalal Lama.dear Happyhindu,I live in India and have seen Dharam Shala ,how these tibetian are living their and enjoying lives.If they have this much problems why they are not leaving Tibet and settled in China.Dalai lama is a CIA agent and we have to kick his ass before he killed the real buddhism in India.

  135. happyhind said

    Kumarpusp,

    Great. Now you are another liar churning out your humbug. You better talk to Chumber. He will believe you. Am not interested in dumb liars talking about dharmshala. And yeah, even if you killed Dalai Lama, real buddhism will not die. Only dumbass mullahs think that way..if only killing ever wiped out ideology, then we shd be so lucky with Pakistan.

  136. C.L.CHUMBER said

    DEAR HAPPY HINDU !
    PLEASE HOLD ON YOUR TONGUE ! YOU ARE TOO MUCH ABUSIVE WHICH SHOWS THAT YOUR ARE MAD COMPLETELY . YOU MAY FILE CASE .I HAVE SUFFICIENT PROOFS REGARDING THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS !!!!!

  137. C.L.CHUMBER said

    HURRAH ! HAPPY HINDU IS MARCHING TOWARDS THE TRUTH !!!!!

    happyhind said,

    January 6, 2009 @ 12:24 pm

    Correction:

    Now Chumber NO one cares which god did what, who came from where, and such rubbish. Your making allegations makes no diff either. Atleast if there was some truth in your allegations abt rape / race, you cud have been viewed in a better light. But you just alleged and lied all the way thru.

  138. hh said

    Dalai lama is a CIA agent and we have to kick his ass before he killed the real buddhism in India.
    ============

    its you that needs kicking.
    no matter how much you kick, real buddhism will not die.
    you cannot keep kicking all the way to japan.
    either shaolin monks will kick you so hard you die or japanese aikido breaks your bones for lifetime.
    ambedkar fooled you with 22 dud vows.
    ask yourself what you want to do now.

  139. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU IS AGAIN MARCHING TOWARDS TRUTH !!!!!

    happyhind said,

    January 6, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

    Now Chumber one cares which god did what, who came from where, and such rubbish. Your making allegations makes no diff either. Atleast if there was some truth in your allegations abt rape / race, you cud have been viewed in a better light. But you just alleged and lied all the way thru.

  140. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MY GOODBYE ALSO TO MR. HAPPY HINDU WHO IS VERY EXPERT IN ABUSING AND BLAMING OTHERS WITHOUT AUTHENTIC PROOFS .
    WHO IS A STAUNCH FOLLOWER OF INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS !!!!!

    happyhind said,

    January 6, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

    Chumber,
    Otherwise, its goodbye from my end.

    May good sense prevail. Jai hind.

  141. happyhind said

    HURRAH ! HAPPY HINDU IS MARCHING TOWARDS THE TRUTH !!!!!
    —————————–

    HURRAH ! CHUMBER IS MARCHING TOWARDS THE MENTAL ASYLUM!!!!!

  142. hh said

    MY GOODBYE ALSO TO MR. HAPPY HINDU WHO IS VERY EXPERT IN ABUSING AND BLAMING OTHERS WITHOUT AUTHENTIC PROOFS .
    WHO IS A STAUNCH FOLLOWER OF INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS !!!!!
    ————

    Idiot,

    I do not care what ambedkar wrote, what gandhi wrote, or what an asshole called chumber wrote…

    I said show me the exact verse where rape is mentioned in hindu scriptures.

    Write down the original sanskrit verse where such a thing is mentioned.

    You can burn your bhim patrika missionary mafia publications since they will not be admitted in court.

    And give me the FIR number, date filed, first report details, address of the police station and name of the inspector that took down the FIR.

  143. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    When others write just as you to show you how stupid and mad-like it all sounds, even then it hits a blank inside your head. A proper response from you remains a zero.

    All you do is write trash to make a living http://ambedkartimes.com/c_l_chumber.htm With goons or madmen masquedrading as politicians no wonder the country has gone to the dogs…just caste and rubbish, lawlessness and no real development. Gandhi would never have fought for freedom if he saw present day India.

  144. C.L.CHUMBER said

    HAVE YOU ANY POINT TO DISCUSS EXCEPT ABUSING AND BLAMING IN FRUSTRATION !
    A CIVILIZED PERSON OF A CIVILIZED SOCIETY NEVER BEHAVE LIKE YOU CONTINUOUSLY !
    IT IS A PROOF OF YOUR MENTAL ASYLUM !
    YOUR GOOD SELF CAN NOT BE GREAT BY ABUSING AND BLAMING BASELESS !

    happyhind said,

    January 8, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

    HURRAH ! HAPPY HINDU IS MARCHING TOWARDS THE TRUTH !!!!!
    —————————–

    HURRAH ! CHUMBER IS MARCHING TOWARDS THE MENTAL ASYLUM!!!!!

  145. happyhind said

    Look Chumber, i said do not talk if you cannot bring the exact verse endorsing rapism, racism, fascism or whatever rubbish.

    I said we will talk after you write down the verse here. Without doing that, you just repeat and repeat i have referred to it so many times and nonsense. You have just lied and lied and lost any sense inside your head.

    Now you say you filed a case. And so i am asking you the details of the case. So you better write it down exactly here without barking useless things in caps again.

    Writing exactly like you is useless. Pointing out how your ridiciulous, senseless and self-contradictory your posts sound, goes nowhere.

    Mesquiteice was right in pointing out how pigs like to get down to a dirty fight. Being abusive beyond this is too much and far beyond what we can take. You are the kind that can go after Sanjam’s type of language. We cannot. So this goes nowhere either.

    Only if you write about the case, there is something to talk. Or its just you shouting and wallowing in revenge, dirt, anger and your crass self. And we trying to keep up. Its all just too very dirty. I have had enuf of it.

    Goodbye.

  146. hh said

    Look Chumber,

    You are a madman who calls himself socrates and likes to wear abuses as medals. So we gave you many medals to wear. Am sure you have been showing them off proudly. So why are you complaining now.

    Chumber, your level of hatered or madness does not come from a mere slap by a sikh woman or by some hindu asking for a bribe / creating hurdels.

    Your brain scans and hurls back abuses of only select kind. It is very clear that its the result of a lot more than just slaps and bribes and hurdels. Very likely all this is the cry of a childhood abuse victim (by a brahmin ?).

    It is also very clear that there no case can hold against you because you are mad. Or a case wud hv been filed against an idiot like you a long time back. So you can keep ranting for all you wish.

  147. C.L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ YOUR WRITINGS IN THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com .
    Your good self apologized about 5 times for your worst abusing habit .
    Is it not true ?

    happyhind said,

    January 10, 2009 @ 4:55 am

    Look Chumber,

    You are the kind that can go after Sanjam’s type of language. We cannot. So this goes nowhere either.

  148. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com must blacklist the abusers otherwise I will conclude that the administrators are also part and parcel of this defaming and blaming game .

  149. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    You have only 2 things to do:

    1) You said you filed a case. Give me the details of it.

    2) You have to produce the exact verses where rape is endorsed in hindu scriptures.

  150. happyh said

    Chumber,

    Everyone has been tooo decent with you. You do not need any apology (we were being conscious of ourselves, not you). You need more abuses (to be shown you cannot get away with your malicious ways) – that’s what a psycologist / lawyer says. So, in fact Sanjam is the right person for you.

    Forget others apologies, now we demand an apology from you.

    I am a hindu and you have abused my sentiments. You lied that my gods have indulged in rapism, racism and fascism. So you must apologize to me and to every hindu.

    You blatantly lied that manusmrithi says a brahmin can rape. So you must apologize to every brahmin following the manusmrithi.

    You lied that padmapuran endorses rape. You must apologize to every hindu following the padma puran.

    You lied that praying to hindu gods means jail because the government has banned gods. You must apologize to every hindu.

    You lied that you have filed a case in some “people’s parliament” (lol). So you must apologize to me since you lied that you filed a case.

    And you have to apologize (lol).

  151. C.L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ YOUR WRITINGS IN THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com .
    Your good self apologized about 5 times for your worst abusing habit .
    Is it not true ?
    In a few days you will again apologize for your good self`s abusive and blaming vaidik language !

    happyh said,

    January 13, 2009 @ 11:34 am

    Chumber,
    So you must apologize to me and to every hindu.

  152. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    That is not an answer.

    It is NOT about you and me as two individuals. Do not repeat useless things just to maintain your politician ego-image.

    No one would ever have bothered about someone like you if you were a layman.

    Your job is to tour the country and spew lies amongst the poorest of the poor.

    No one realizes that you actually have a mental problem.

    Unfortunately, you guys are unknowingly stooges to anti-nationals.

    You are raising an entire generation steeped in all sorts of falsehood about the hindu faith, brahmins, hindu gods and all.

    You are raising an entire generation that will think caste system is the reason for their poverty and seek revenge on innocent people like you are doing.

    You cannot get away with your lies.

    You have to apologise to EVERY hindu for the lies you have spread so far.

  153. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    I HAD NOT HURTED SENTIMENTS OF THE HINDUS. I HAD EXPOSED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS WHO MADE OUR PEOPLE`S LIVES HELL . YOU PEOPLE SHOULD APPOLOGIZE FOR THIS FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
    I WILL CONTINUE MY TASK TO EXPOSE THE EVIL GODS AND GODDESSES SO MY COUNTRY MEN MAY BE MENTALLY FREE FROM THE EVIL GODS !!!!!

  154. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE CASTE SYSTEM INVENTED BY BARBARIC BRAHMA AND MAINTAINED BY ANOTHER BARBARIC VISHANU AND HIS INCARNATIONS IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF ABORIGINAL INDIANS `POVERTY , ILLITERACY AND SOCIALLY DOWNFALL . IT IS TRUE IF THE INDIAN GOVT. AND STATE GOVTS. WILL NOT ERADICATE THE CASTE SYSTEM`S BAD EFFECTS IN SOCIETY THEN THE SUFFERERS WILL BE COMPELLED TO COME ON THE ROADS !!!!! THESE ARE TWO SOLUTIONS .THE THIRD SOLUTION IS SURRENDERING OF INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS TO THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!

    happyhind said
    January 16, 2009 @ 11:02 am

    Chumber,
    You are raising an entire generation that will think caste system is the reason for their poverty and seek revenge on innocent people like you are doing.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/brahmin-deception-through-dalai-lama-part-1/

  155. happyhind said

    By repeating and shouting your ridiculous missionary-mafia statements in bold, a lie cannot become a truth.

    Stop repeating the same stuff like a dud zombie with a stuck vocabulary problem.

    Apparently its a mental problem to repeat the same things like a stuck old fuzzy tape-recorder.

    Stop talking and just give details of the case you have filed.

    If you have filed any case, why are you afraid to give the details?

    You have not filed any case. You have just lied thru and thru. Practically every other sentence of yours is a lie.

  156. kv_rangan said

    Ohhh!!!! These Hindus are always like this. Always fighting. Chumberji Come to Jainism. I’m gonna convert(from Brahmanism –> Jainism)

  157. happyhindu said

    Chumber,

    Come to court and shout as much as you want.

    Now just give the details of the case.

  158. C.L.CHUMBER said

    IN SEPTEMBER 2009 , I VISITED A VERY BIG JAIN TEMPLE ON PUNE – MUMBAI ROAD WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION .THERE WERE STATUES OF THE 24 TIRTHANKARS .WHEN I VISITED FROM PUNE TO KOHLAPUR ,SURAT , SANGALI AREA OF MAHARASHTRA , I FELT A STRONG PRESENCE OF THE JAINS . THE JAINS ARE COUNTERING THE BRAHMANISM BY LITERATURE / PRINT MEDIA .
    DON`T WORRY . OUR FOREFATHERS ALWAYS FOUGHT AGAINST THE BRAHMANISM FROM ANCIENT PERIOD TO MODERN PERIOD . THE BRAHMANISM IS ON DEATH BED . THERE WILL BE NO BRAHMANISM IN A DEMOCRATIC WORLD . WE ARE FIGHTING FOR EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . IN USA , MARTIN LUTHER KING JR SUCCEEDED ON MR. OBAMA`S BECOMING PRESIDENT .
    I AM THANKFUL FOR YOUR GOOD SELF`S MORAL SUPPORT .
    kv_rangan said
    January 22, 2009 @ 10:35 am

    Ohhh!!!! These Hindus are always like this. Always fighting. Chumberji Come to Jainism. I’m gonna convert(from Brahmanism –> Jainism)

  159. kumarpushp said

    Fuck these hindus and their hindu led government.time has come dalits should sell their T.V. sets and buy AK 47 to give these hindus same reply what they are doing to dalits,long live Dr Ambedkar,Aurenjab and Jinnha sahab.

  160. C.L.CHUMBER said

    DR. AMBEDKAR`S DRAFTED CONSTITUTION FRANCHISED US EQUALLY .
    WE EXERCISE OUR FRANCHISE TO DETHRONE THE INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS !

  161. happyhind said

    Jainism is a very beautiful faith; and it is anyday better than the hollow political-buddhism of ambedkar.

  162. C.L.CHUMBER said

    EVERY RELIGION IS BETTER THAN THE MR. HAPPY HINDU `S RELIGION WHICH DID NOT INVENTED THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM LIKE THE HINDUISM !!!!!
    THE ALL GODS OF HINDUISM WERE KINGS AND HENCE POLITICIANS !!!!!
    ALTHOUGH MAHAVIRA AND BUDHA WERE PRINCES BUT THEY NEVER RULED THE STATES !!!!!
    THEY WERE NOT RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS LIKE MR. HAPPY HINDU`S REVERED GODS !!!!!
    THEY PREACHED ” LIVE AND LET LIVE ” BUT MR. HAPPY HINDU`S GODS PREACHED HATERED WHICH IS RECORDED IN THE VAIDIK HINDU SCRIPTURES .
    MAHAVIRA AND BUDHA WERE NON-VIOLENT BUT VAIDIK HINDU GODS WERE PERFECT IN DOING AND PREACHING VIOLENCE .

  163. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    You only keep talking…..you are a zero in action…but its really hilarious that you even lied that you filed a case…whata dumedkar politician image you have..lol….anyways, goodbye.

  164. kumarpushp said

    Dear HH,if Buddhism is hollow means you people would not hidden the Khadiga Buddha statue in strong room in Calcutta.Buddha had been carying sword at the end of his life to protect the buddhism from hinduism.fag end of his life Buddha ask his followers to wage war against the hindus.this is duty of buddhist to keep ready his sword and follow the lotu shutra.Khadgadhari Buddha photograph has been published in Dalit voice 1 to 15 february 2009.

  165. hh said

    kumarpush,

    i said political-buddhism of ambedkar is hollow.

    i did NOT say buddhism is hollow.

    there is a diff b/w the 2.

    political-buddhism is merely political in nature, very little spiritualilty.

    real-buddism is a spiritual path.

    instead of political-buddism you guys can very well take up real-buddism.

    prob is you guys are not spiritual. you are politically violent in nature.

  166. happyhind said

    I HAD PROVED WITH REFERENCES THAT MANY OF YOUR REVERED GODS ARE NOT LEGITIMATE SONS OF THEIR PARENTS E.G. RAMA & HIS BROTHERS .
    ———————-

    You only quoted your lies and passed it off as works of hindu scriptures…if you are so confident that you have not lied, then come to court, mr.liar.

    Ofcourse you are a malicious coward. No matter what you do, hindusim never wanes…so you can keep howling forever…you see mad rabid dogs on the streets that create nuisance are given only that much attention. After that, they die off themselves.

    ———————————————————
    I also FILED CASE IN THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com WHERE WE ARGUING AS ADVOCATES DAILY AND THE VIEWERS ARE JUDGING !!!!!
    YOU LOST THE E-BATTLE VERY BITTERLY AND ABUSING & BLAMING ONLY LIKE A CHILD !!!!!
    ——-
    Lol…. Where did you file a case Mr.Liar…in this blog?? :-D…lol…chumber, now i know why teenage kids are seeing you as a clown…..you just cannot stop lying but the whole funny part is you lie like a 5-year old kid – it is so obvious that you are lying and dunno to cover it up in your madness.

    Look Chumber,

    If you are confident you have not lied, then provide your voter id, pan card number, your full name, full names of all your family members and attest that you will not tell lies or change any your statements mentioned in this blog in court. We will deal with you in court. Let the court decide whether you are mad liar or not.

  167. hh said

    Beta Chumber,

    You have a TADA background and you can actually lie about filing any case and continue to shout lies in caps…

    So, Mr.Disruptionist, Mr.Liar, Mr.Anti-National, after you go to asylum, you can convince everyone there with your own lies which you call as “references”…you are the best paagal God has made…God, this is absolutely hilarious..

  168. C . L . CHUMBER said

    TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN ! ! ! ! !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU MY Beta / SON IS NOW IN THE BAD COMPANY OF THE FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCIST EVIL GODS . HE NOT ONLY WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE EVIL GODS BUT ALSO ABUSE AND BLAME BITTERLY TO THOSE GENTLE PERSONS WHO EXPOSE THE EVIL GODS WITH REASONING , PROOFS AND REFERENCES .
    THIS IS UNETHICAL AND UN-CONSTITUTIONAL . THEREFORE HE IS NO MORE MY SON . HE AND HIS FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE NO CONCERN WITH US . HE IS DEBARRED FROM ANY HEREDITARY RIGHTS . ANY ONE WHO DEAL WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY DO SO AT HIS / HER OWN RISK .- C.L.CHUMBER
    hh said
    February 2, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

    Beta Chumber,

  169. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    GOSWAMI TULSI DASS WROTE IN HIS ” RAMCHRIT MANAS ” : –
    DHOR , GANWAR , SHUDAR AUR NARI ,
    YEH CHARON TARHAN KE ADHIKARI !

    WHICH MEANS – THE ANIMALS , IDIOTS , SHUDAR ( SCs /STs /OBCs ) AND WOMEN ALL THESE FOUR CATEGORIES ARE LIABLE TO BE DISCARDED !
    NOW MRS.INDIRA GANDHI A WOMAN WAS PRIME MINISTER OF INDIAN REPUBLIC AND PRESENT MRS. PRATIBHA PATIL IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BIGGEST EVER DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY .MRS. SONIA GANDHI , ANOTHER WOMAN IS THE PRESIDENT IF THE NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY RULING INDIA . THERE ARE NUMERIOUS PANCHES / SARPANCHES /MLAs/MPs /MINISTERS AMONG WOMEN AND SHUDRAS !
    INDIA IS BEING GOVERNED BY THE CONSTITUTION DRAFTED BY A CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY UNDER THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF A SHUDRA DR. B.R. AMBEDKAR .LATE MR. K.R. NARAYNAN . PRESIDENT OF INDIA WAS ALSO SHUDRA ! THE PRESENT CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA , MR.K.G. BALAKRISHNAN IS ALSO A SHUDRA .
    THESE ARE THE PROOFS THAT THE HINDUISM IS GOING TO WANE FAST !

    happyhind said
    February 2, 2009 @ 9:32 am

    No matter what you do, hindusim never wanes…so you can keep howling
    forever…
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/brahmin-deception-through-dalai-lama-part-1/#comment-4660

  170. hh said

    Lol…Chumber…the more we nail you, the more you shout nonsense in caps…

    Just give your TADA case file number.

  171. C . L . CHUMBER said

    114.

    INDIA IS BEING GOVERNED BY THE CONSTITUTION DRAFTED BY A CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY UNDER THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF A SHUDRA DR. B.R. AMBEDKAR .

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    GOSWAMI TULSI DASS WROTE IN HIS ” RAMCHRIT MANAS ” : –
    DHOR , GANWAR , SHUDAR AUR NARI ,
    YEH CHARON TARHAN KE ADHIKARI !

    WHICH MEANS – THE ANIMALS , IDIOTS , SHUDAR ( SCs /STs /OBCs ) AND WOMEN ALL THESE FOUR CATEGORIES ARE LIABLE TO BE DISCARDED !
    NOW MRS.INDIRA GANDHI A WOMAN WAS PRIME MINISTER OF INDIAN REPUBLIC AND PRESENT MRS. PRATIBHA PATIL IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BIGGEST EVER DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY .MRS. SONIA GANDHI , ANOTHER WOMAN IS THE PRESIDENT IF THE NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY RULING INDIA . THERE ARE NUMERIOUS PANCHES / SARPANCHES /MLAs/MPs /MINISTERS AMONG WOMEN AND SHUDRAS !
    INDIA IS BEING GOVERNED BY THE CONSTITUTION DRAFTED BY A CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY UNDER THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF A SHUDRA DR. B.R. AMBEDKAR .LATE MR. K.R. NARAYNAN . PRESIDENT OF INDIA WAS ALSO SHUDRA ! THE PRESENT CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA , MR.K.G. BALAKRISHNAN IS ALSO A SHUDRA .
    THESE ARE THE PROOFS THAT THE HINDUISM IS GOING TO WANE FAST !

    happyhind said
    February 2, 2009 @ 9:32 am

    No matter what you do, hindusim never wanes…so you can keep howling
    forever…
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/brahmin-deception-through-dalai-lama-part-1/#comment-4660

  172. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Mr. Happy Hindu !

    HOW DID YOU DECLARE ME TERRORIST WITHOUT ANY COURT JUDGMENT ?

    HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF SOME ONE SPEAK / WRITE THAT YOU RAPED YOUR MOTHER / SISTER / DAUGHTER ? ? ? ? ?

  173. hh said

    Mr. Happy Hindu !

    HOW DID YOU DECLARE ME TERRORIST WITHOUT ANY COURT JUDGMENT ?

    HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF SOME ONE SPEAK / WRITE THAT YOU RAPED YOUR MOTHER / SISTER / DAUGHTER ? ? ? ? ?
    —————————————–

    Chumber,

    How did you call other people as terrorist without any court judgement then?
    How did you call brahmins as terrorist without any proof then?
    Who gave you the right to insult other people’s sentiments and dignity?
    You are mad man and a victim of abuse and obsessed only with rape.
    You clearly need to be put in a mental asylum.
    Just give your personal prrof of identity or your TADA case number. You can come to court and prove all your lies.

    See your comments below:
    C,L.CHUMBER said
    June 11, 2008 @ 5:30 am

    THERE ARE NO BIGGER TERRORISTS THAN BRAHMINS !!!!!
    ———————-

    You called MR Rao a terrorist without any proof. See this:
    —————-
    MR. M. R. SATISH RAO ! PLEASE RELEASE MEDICAL REPORTS ON THESE FOLLOWING PERSONS ALSO , OTHERWISE YOU ARE AN UNETHICAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TERRORIST DOCTOR !!!!!

  174. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE BRAHMINS AS COMMUNITY ARE ESTABLISHED DREADED EVER TERRORISTS
    WHO INVENTED AND MAINTAINED THE WORST EVER CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AND ALL THEIRS GODS AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!
    FOR PROOFS READ YOUR OWN SCRIPTURES !!!!!
    THE CONSTITUTION BANNED RAPES , UNTOUCHABLETY ON CASTE BASE AND FASCIST ACTIVITIES !!!!!
    YOU NEED ANY BIG JUDGMENT THAN THE CONSTITUTION ? ? ? ? ?

    hh said
    February 9, 2009 @ 8:56 am
    Chumber,

    How did you call other people as terrorist without any court judgement then?
    How did you call brahmins as terrorist without any proof then?

  175. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ THE BELOW WRITING BEFORE

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    February 10, 2009 @ 10:08 am

    He ( SAHEB KANSHI RAM ) let down his life to establish the democratic values at mass level that is why he turned down the offers of ministries from late

  176. hh said

    THE BRAHMINS AS COMMUNITY ARE ESTABLISHED DREADED EVER TERRORISTS
    WHO INVENTED AND MAINTAINED THE WORST EVER CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AND ALL THEIRS GODS AND THEIRS INCARNATIONS ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!
    FOR PROOFS READ YOUR OWN SCRIPTURES !!!!!
    THE CONSTITUTION BANNED RAPES , UNTOUCHABLETY ON CASTE BASE AND FASCIST ACTIVITIES !!!!!
    YOU NEED ANY BIG JUDGMENT THAN THE CONSTITUTION ? ? ? ? ?
    —————————–

    Are all dalits good people?

    Are you a good man? You appear as the worst of all dalits, full of filthy lies and crooked in words and deeds.

    Do you need a bigger judgement that the fact atleast 4 people on this blog called you a terrorist?

  177. C. l . CHUMBER said

    THE UPPER CASTES CAN JOIN THE PARTY, BUT THEY CANNOT BE ITS LEADERS .LEADERSHIP WILL REMAIN IN THE HANDS OF THE BACKWARD COMMUNITY. …SHAHID..E.. AZAM SAHEB KANSHI RAM .

    QUESTION: Why is your cadre so hostile to Mahatma Gandhi?

    KANSHI RAM: Gandhi is the root of every thing. I want change. Dr. Ambedkar wanted change. But Gandhi was the custodian of the status quo. He wanted Shudras to remain Shudras .Gandhi worked to keep the nation divided .We are working to unite the nation and erase all artificial divisions.

    QUESTION: Why has your movement taken so much time to become a reality?

    KANSHI RAM: Upto 1971, I was not so much interested. I was working with RPI .Then I found I was marching towards a ship that others were deserting .It took a long time to prepare myself and others . We had to collect a lot of information, so that we could know how to prepare society and build a cadre. Preparing society initially took a long time. Now we are moving at a tremendous speed. Next year when you meet me, you will ask me how we have acquired such a speed.

    QUESTION: How can you abolish caste by floating a casteist party?

    KANSHI RAM: The BSP is not a casteist party. If we are uniting 6000 castes, how can you call us casteist?

    QUESTION: I believe your party is off-limits to the upper castes.

    KANSHI RAM: The upper castes say why not include us. I say you are leading all the parties. If you join our party, you will blick change here also .THE UPPER CASTES CAN JOIN THE PARTY, BUT THEY CANNOT BE ITS LEADERS .LEADERSHIP WILL REMAIN IN THE HANDS OF THE BACKWARD COMMUNITY. My fear is that these upper caste people will come into our party and block the process of change .When this fear goes, they can join our party.
    COURTSEY : THE ILLUSTRATED WEEKLY OF INDIA ,MUMBAI ,MARCH 7 ,1987.
    Visit for full interview :http://www.ambedkartimes.com

  178. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU PAL DUKHI RAM !
    ALL DALITS ARE GOOD BECAUSE THEY WORK HARD FOR THEIRS LIVELIHOOD .THEY ARE MANUAL LABORERS , ARTISANS AND PRODUCTIVE WORKS .THEY BUILT YOUR TEMPLES AND CARVE THE STATUES OF YOUR GODS .THEY BUILT THE ROADS EVEN IN PREGNANCY , SICKNESS .THEY ARE NOT PARASITE ON THE SOCIETY !!!!!
    YES . I AM BETTER THAN YOU WHO IS THE WORSHIPER OF RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS INSPITE CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM !!!!!
    I AM FIGHTING AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIRS FOLLOWERS INCLUDING YOU INSPITE OF YOUR ABUSES , BLAMES AND DIRTY TACTICS !!!!!
    I DAM CARE YOU AND YOUR MANUWADI COMPANY CALLING ME A TERRORIST .
    SOME ONE SAID THAT IF YOUR OPPONENTS DO NOT CRITICIZE , YOU ARE ON WRONG PATH !!!!!
    IF THEY CRITICIZE , THEN YOU ARE ON RIGHT PATH !!!!!
    MORE AND MORE THEY CRITICIZE YOU,MORE AND MORE YOU ARE RIGHT !!!!
    YOU ARE MY OPPONENT ! IS IT NOT TRUE ? ? ? ? /

    hh said
    February 10, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

    Are all dalits good people?

    Are you a good man? You appear as the worst of all dalits, full of filthy lies and crooked in words and deeds.

    Do you need a bigger judgement that the fact atleast 4 people on this blog called you a terrorist?

  179. kumarpushp said

    Hindus are born barbaric and terrorist.we have seen in gujrat and orissa and now in Karnatka.you hindus donot have guts to accept the truth that 175 millins dalits are not hindus ,you hindus are getting back from dalits ,because you are telling them hindus.It is better for your religion and your country ,you should accept that dalits are not hindus.I was listning the globalradios who were making fun of hindus that they are bringing drink made up from cow urine.

  180. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE MANUWADI HINDUS ARE BARBARIC AND TERRORISTS SINCE THEIRS CONCEPTIONS
    WHICH CAN BE ESTABLISHED FROM MR. ABHIMANYU S/O ARJUNA WHO LEARNT HOW TO BREAK THE ‘ CHAKKARVIEW ‘ ( STRATEGY ) OF THE KAURVAS IN THE WOMB OF HIS MOTHER !!!!!

    kumarpushp said
    February 16, 2009 @ 11:03 pm

    Hindus are born barbaric and terrorist.

  181. hh said

    Hindus are born barbaric and terrorist.we have seen in gujrat and orissa and now in Karnatka.you hindus donot have guts to accept the truth that 175 millins dalits are not hindus ,you hindus are getting back from dalits ,because you are telling them hindus.It is better for your religion and your country ,you should accept that dalits are not hindus.I was listning the globalradios who were making fun of hindus that they are bringing drink made up from cow urine.
    ————————

    Kureela@Kumarpushp,

    Dalits are hindus. God had made it that way. Nobody on earth can change that. Keep ranting for all you wish.

    You can listen to Global Radio, Urban Ministry or whatever. Forget any drink, the reality is that even if all you guys converted either to Islam or Christianity, you would still fight like street dogs with each other about stupid stuff like which one is better. Violence is hard-wired in your brain. Don’t blame religion for it.

    All dalits are not violent like you. Unlike you, they are human.

  182. kumarpushp said

    Dalits are peace loving people,if they would have been violent means hindu seeds would have been disappear from India.

  183. C . L .CHUMBER said

    MOREOVER A FOLLOWER OF FASCIST GODS IS ALSO A CONFIRMED FASCIST !
    Dear kumarpushp ji ,
    Well done ! Your good self gave a befitting reply to the abuser , blamer and worshiper of fascist Gods and Goddesses ! The Manuwadis did the wrongs and blame the others for same . Now they also crush our movements by army / para–military forces and police . I wrote in details how the police burnt 2000 Sikh youths as unclaimed dead bodies which exposed by N.S. Kang Committee formed by the Punjab government .Now the J & K government will revoke the Armed Forces Special Powers Act to strip the armed forces of their special powers in the terrorism-hit state .
    Moreover , a follower of fascist Gods is also a confirmed fascist .Hence Mr. Happy Hindu is a fascist !!!!!

  184. hh said

    Dalits are peace loving people,if they would have been violent means hindu seeds would have been disappear from India.
    —————

    Dalits are peace loving people because they are hindus.

    In one of your posts you said your uncle killed a hindu. So for a nephew of a murderer who kills for caste, only the language of violence would make sense (since you always seem to be advocating violence anyways).

    It is obvious you do not come from a peace loving background. Someone like you has no right to comment on hinduism or any religion.

    A retarded fellow like Chumber says that brahma invented brahmand and equates that to the caste system. The poor fellow is looking for an election platform without reading anything about hindu scriptures; that is why he is blabbering nonsense about brahma and brahmand like this.

    But you seem to be a super retard case blabbering even without an election platform. You are a paki or paki-lover muslim masquerading as a christian always praising aurangzeb. What you are is just too obvious. You are a shame to your religion.

  185. kumarpushp said

    You HH,you hindus are born barbaric like your god rama and rapist like Brahma who had raped even own daughter,yes I appriciate the aurangjeb who had librated the millions of dalits.dalits are awaiting another Ambedkar to born or another Aurangjeb to be born to librate the dalits from holocaust .you go and eat shankracharya shits and drink cow urine cola and be happy.

  186. hh said

    Kumarpushp@Kureela,

    Nincompoops like can never understand any religion. The only religion you know is violence because your brain is soaked in the acid of hatered. To get rid of it, go worship Allah truly and be a good muslim. Or learn some yoga to feel happy.

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  188. kumarpushp said

    Dear Chumber ji,Hindu forces never open fired on hindus whether it was Babari Mosque demolition or Gohna where they had burnt the dalit houses or Jhajjhar where five dalit men were burnt alive in front of DM<SSP and 500 police men.DM of Jhajjhar told the media that we did not fire to save the lives of five people because if we would have opened the fire then so many people would have been killed.In front of hindu led government ,dalits,muslims ,christians and sikhs lives is nothing ,they are runing flies and these barbaric hindus are killing them in day in and day out.Dear chumber ji ,politician look for genration only five year but intellectual like you who are looking dalit lives for genration .Please organise people like you in all states and 175 million people have got the two hands means 350 million hand can break the barbaric hand very easily.

  189. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THEN WHO DID BLOODY FOOL CREATE THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE BRAHMAND ? ? ? ? ?
    THE RETARTED PERSONS LIKE M/S HAPPY HINDUS WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE EVIL GODS AND ABUSE THOSE WHO DO NOT WORSHIP EVIL GODS !!!!!
    hh said
    February 27, 2009 @ 2:52 pm
    A retarded fellow like Chumber says that brahma invented brahmand and equates that to the caste system. The poor fellow is looking for an election platform without reading anything about hindu scriptures; that is why he is blabbering nonsense about brahma and brahmand like this.

  190. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Most respected Kumarpushp ji ,
    I am very much impressed by your spirit for the opperessed and depressed aboriginal Indians ! I always organise people by principles .You had read my report on my Gujarat tour in breif .Now I am planning to tour the Maharashtra state to under stand its people and their culture ! A visionary person can guide the people !
    I am planning to translate Hindi ( 10 ), Punjabi (10 ),Marathi , Gujarati ,Urdu , Bangla and Tamil ( one each ) total 25 books in English so that the aboriginal Indians may know each others by literature ! You may suggest books in these languages on regional dalit movements and their leadership .The number of books in any language may be increased or decreased .
    I hope that you will like this idea , co-operate and co-ordinate .

    kumarpushp said
    March 26, 2009 @ 8:18 am

    Dear chumber ji ,politician look for genration only five year but intellectual like you who are looking dalit lives for genration .Please organise people like you in all states and 175 million people have got the two hands means 350 million hand can break the barbaric hand very easily.

  191. hh said

    THEN WHO DID BLOODY FOOL CREATE THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE BRAHMAND ? ? ? ? ?
    THE RETARTED PERSONS LIKE M/S HAPPY HINDUS WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE EVIL GODS AND ABUSE THOSE WHO DO NOT WORSHIP EVIL GODS !!!!!
    ———

    Chumber,

    Dinosaurs were so big in size but they had a very small brain. No matter how hard they tried to cope with climatic change they could not cope. They became extinct.

    So you also try to stop trying to cope since you can never understand anything about any religion. Your breed is designed for extinction.

  192. blr said

    Foreigners are able to admire what Indian politicians (traitors) criticize:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Chennai/UK-writer-follows-Ramas-path-to-Lanka/articleshow/4325600.cms

  193. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I HEREBY REPRODUCE THE LINK MADE AVAILABLE BY BIR ( blr said April 2, 2009 @ 6:15 am ) AND WILL PURCHASE THE BOOK OF MARTIN BUCKLEY AND COMMENT ON THIS NEWS AND BOOK .

    UK writer follows Rama’s path to Lanka

    : Martin Buckley embarked on many a train journey while travelling across India more than 25 years ago.
    Like many of us, he
    would pass the time reading a book. “As soon as I would take out my book, the other passengers’ eyes would immediately light up. That’s when I knew that this was no ordinary book, but something much deeper,” he recalls. The book Buckley was reading was the country’s very own epic Valmiki’s Ramayana. Eventually, he fell in love with India and decided to work as a sub-editor at Business India magazine in Mumbai. During his time in the country, he travelled to many places from Allahabad and Rishikesh
    to Bodhgaya. But the tale of Rama never left him. So when he returned in 2005, he travelled from Ayodhya to Sri Lanka like Rama a journey documented in his book, An Indian Odyssey.

    At the launch of the book at Madras Terrace House on Friday, Buckley spoke about the people’s relationship with the epic. “I think it’s fascinating that this book that was prehistorically written is still worshipped,” he says. He adds that Valmiki’s version of the story is very real, with the characters going through various emotions.

    Although the book talks about his life in India and his journey in Rama’s footsteps, Buckley also intersperses it with the story of the Ramayana and his version appears more contemporary. For instance, Hanuman doesn’t build a bridge using boulders to cross over to Lanka, but wades and swims across during a low tide. “There are no monkeys in my book. I describe them as forest dwellers, comfortable living amongst trees,” he explains.

    So does he believe the Ramayana took place in real time or is it a figment of people’s imagination? “I think Rama is a character that is an assortment of people that really lived. The epic tells the story of guerilla warfare, fought by indigenous people,” he says. However, he thinks the academic’s view is nonsense. “Some even say that the notion of Lanka being in the South is false!” he exclaims.

    Buckley feels the spirituality in India and has had a spiritual experience himself. “One of the wonders of this country is that you can meet an intellectual who is also deeply spiritual,” he says. He is impatient with the smug secularism of certain people in the country. “India’s culture is what it is. It’s wonderful to live in a place where every minority has a voice, but let’s not forget the totality of Indian culture,” he states.

    Through his book, he wants to give the Western audience a message that it is ok to talk about spirituality, without turning to strange music or drugs.’ But is he not worried about how the book might be received in India? “The book has its own identity and is a universal story now. I’m sure some people might find it offensive, but it should be read with an open mind,” says Buckley, who plans on writing his version of the Ramayana in the future.

    lakshmi.kumaraswami@timesgroup.com
    COURTESY : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Chennai/UK-writer-follows-Ramas-path-to-Lanka/articleshow/4325600.cms

  194. NP Karze said

    Dalits who claimed to believe Buddhist should protect Buddhism than try to create schism in Buddhism.

    Dalits as being Indian citizen should take the management of Mahabodhi Temple at Bodhgaya from Hindus. Instead it has played a dirty trick by trying to pick on Dalai Lama who how ever high profile he may be is still a refugee in India.

    If Dalits are really interested in Buddhism they should protest and speak against the real enemy of Buddhism. One such person is Harun Yayah or Adnan who has made a attack on Buddhis. He made a movie tittled “Errors in Buddhism” link of which is given below.

  195. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE DALITS ARE CONVERTED TO EVERY RELIGION IN INDIA FOR THE SOCIAL TRANSFORMATION AND ECONOMIC EMANCIPATION !

    BABA SAHEB AMBEDKAR AND MANY OTHER DALIT LEADERS AGITATED FOR ENTRY IN THE KALA RAM TEMPLE , NASIK ( MAHARASHTRA ) BUT IN VAIN .

    BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA ( 1886-1980 AD ) WHOSE 29TH DEATH ANNIVERSARY FALLS ON 22ND , APRIL , 2009 DECLARED THAT THE DALITS ARE NEITHER HINDUS NOR SIKHS NOR MUSLIMS ETC.

    SHAHID-E-AZAM SAHEB KANSHI RAM DECLARED THAT ” BRAHMIN , BANIA , THAKUR CHHOD , BAAKI SAARE DS4 MEANS EXCEPT BRAHMIN , BANIA AND THAKUR , ALL BELONG TO THE DALIT SHOSHIT SAMAJ SANGHARSH SAMITI .
    SAHEB KANSHI RAM ASKED THE BAHUJAN SAMAJ TO CAPTURE THE PARLIAMENT BY DEMOCRATIC MEANS .
    HE WAS OFFERED THE PRESIDENTSHIP OF INDIA BY THE MANUWADI BRAHMIN AB VAYPAYEE PM OF INDIA BUT HE DECLINED THIS OFFER SAYING ,” THE ECONOMIC EMANCIPATION AND SOCIAL TRANSFORMATION OF THE BAHUJAN SAMAJ WILL BE ACHIEVED BY THE PARLIAMENT HOUSE NOT BY THE PRESIDENT HOUSE .” HE WAS ABDUCTED FROM HYDERABAD BUT HE NEVER SURRENDERED TO THE MANUWADI SYSTEM AND GOT MARRIED WITH THE DATH BRIDEGROOM .

    THE DALITS ARE NOT FOOLS TO WASTE THEIR AWAKENING IN ANY RELIGIOUS PLACE . WHEN THEY WILL CAPTURE THE POWER AT CENTRE AND STATES EVERY THING WILL BE SETTLED ACCORDING TO LAW OF THE LAND !!!!!

    NP Karze said
    April 18, 2009 @ 5:04 pm
    Dalits as being Indian citizen should take the management of Mahabodhi Temple at Bodhgaya from Hindus.

  196. kumarpushp said

    Dalai Lama is a biggets traittor of buddhism who is sharing his ass with terrorist organisation eg RSS,VHP and BJP.We have to throw the biggest enemy of Buddhism from India and his three hundred thosand of his tibiti followers who are enjoying in India and becoming fat cats.

    • hh said

      kumarpushp@kureela,

      navayana buddhism is insecure in front of other forms of buddhism.

      even if you throw dalai lama out, even if you become a china bootlicker, still you cannot become a proper buddhist just because you follow navayana.

      • kumarpushp said

        If dalits were bootlicker of china then your dalai Lama and his 300 thousands fat cat would have been thrown out of India and your RSS and their umblical links would have not able to stopped dalits to throw traitor of buddhist cause from India.dalit needs a friendly country to win war against the barbaric hindus in India.

  197. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DALAI LAMAISM IS THE SISTER OF BRAHMINISM THAT IS WHY PANDIT NEHARU GAVE SHELTER TO DALAI LAMA .
    WHY DO THE RSS AND ITS OFF SHOOTS LOVE LAMAS AND HATE THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS ESPECIALLY BANGLA DESHI ?
    IT BELIEVES IN INCARNATION LIKE BRAHMINISM .
    I ENDORSE MR. KUMARPUSHP`S VIEWS AND PROMISE TO VISIT DHARAMSHALA ( HIMACHAL PARDESH , INDIA ) IN MAY 2009 TO STUDY ABOUT LAMAISM !
    MR. KUMARPUSHP ! OUR ULTIMATE AIM MUST BE TO IMPLEMENT THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION BY RULING INDIA DEMOCRATICALLY !

    kumarpushp said
    April 22, 2009 @ 10:29 pm

    Dalai Lama is a biggets traittor of buddhism who is sharing his ass with terrorist organisation eg RSS,VHP and BJP.We have to throw the biggest enemy of Buddhism from India and his three hundred thosand of his tibiti followers who are enjoying in India and becoming fat cats.
    Reply

  198. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. VIKARAM PANDITA AMONG US`20 WORST-EVER CEOs !!!!!
    http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/ArticleImage.aspx?article=24_04_2009_001_018&mode=1

  199. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE HINDUISM `S CASTE / VARNA LIKE SOCIO-ECONOMIC FILTHY SYSTEM IS WORST EVER VIOLENCE !!!!!

    THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS INVENTED AND MAINTAINED THE HINDUISM !!!!!

    THE HINDUS STILL WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!

    Canadians view Hinduism positively, not Islam, Sikhism

    Fri, Apr 24 03:04 PM

    Toronto, April 24 (IANS) Hinduism is the most positively viewed religion after Christianity in Canada, where many believe that Islam promotes violence and so does Sikhism, says a survey by a premier magazine.

    According to the survey by Maclean’s weekly, almost half of Canadians believe that Islam promotes violence. More than a quarter of them also view Sikhism as encouraging violence.

    On the other hand, Hinduism was viewed most positively after Christianity, according to the survey.

    When the respondents were asked whether they thought that ‘the mainstream beliefs’ of the major religions ‘encourage violence or are mostly peaceful’, only 10 percent said Christianity taught violence.

    On the other hand, 45 percent said Islam stood for violence and hatred. Nearly 26 percent viewed Sikhism as promoting violence.

    While 70 percent said they hold a positive view of Christianity, 41 percent said they viewed Hinduism positively.

    Showing how deep anti-Semitism is still in this liberal country, 44 percent respondents said they would not want their children to marry a person of Jewish faith.

    Even fewer said they would be comfortable with their children marrying a Sikh or a Muslim.

    Worse still, 62 percent Canadians said they opposed changes to laws to accommodate new ethnic immigrant groups and minorities.

    In the French-dominant province of Quebec, this figure rose to 74 percent.

    As part of the survey, 1,002 Canadians from all walks of life were selected randomly to elicit their views on various religions.

    The magazine said Canadians like to think of their country as a model of multi-ethnic and multicultural harmony, but when it comes to the major faiths other than Christianity they harbour shocking biases.

    Requesting anonymity, a Toronto-based Sikh leader said: ‘The survey shows that the Air India bombing of 1985 and the ongoing violence among the Indo-Canadian Punjabi youth in British Columbia have created stereotypes about the Sikhs.’

    Among the more than a million South Asians in Canada, Sikhs and Hindus are the two biggest groups.

    Indo Asian News Service
    Courtsey : http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090424/890/twl-canadians-view-hinduism-positively-n.html

  200. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE INDIAN PRESS IS ANTI-ABORIGINAL INDIANS DUE TO ITS MANUWADI BENT OF MIND AND STOOGES , DEPENDENTS ON ADVERTISEMENTS OF THE CAPITALISTS AND SELF -RESPECT SELLING TO THE CAPITALISTS OF INDIA WHO ARE FURTHER STOOGES OF THE GLOBAL CAPITALISTS !!!!!

    Dear Viewers ,
    I wrote above is true .The Punjabi and Hindi press at Jalandhar , Punjab is nearly almost corrupt .They openly saled the full pages and printed the news supplied by the candidates of Congress ( I ) and BJP candidates in their own favours in the Punjab Assembly election .This was shameful that sponsored pages were published in a same date .The candidates were from the Jalandhar South ( Reserve ) .One of the candidates admitted that it was true !

    Now the Punjab`s press in 15th Lok Sabha election almost played the role of prostitute !The honest press reporters told me that both the proprietors and their dishonest partner press reporters earned in crores ! Almost every Punjabi and Hindi daily published daily 8 coloums news composed in special type which can be recognized as sponsored news but there was not written advertisement at the bottom .This is a case of fraud as the amount received by these news is in black money . There is a fact that the same news in same type were published more than one news papers on the same day .The vigilance department of Punjab , the Election Commission and Income Tax department must investigate it .

  201. C . L . CHUMBER said

    EVEN THE NATURE IS AGAINST VHP`S World Hindu Convention AGENDA OF RAM TEMPLE ETC.

    THERE IS A PUNJABI PROVERB ‘ ATT KHUDA DA VAIR ‘ MEANS ‘ EXTREMISM IS OPPONENT OF THE GOD / NATURE ‘
    .
    THE MANUWADI VAIDIK HINDUS ARE CHALLENGING THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION BY THEIR MANUWADI ACTIVETIES !!!!!

    THEY ( RSS ) ARE EVEN SCOLDING MR. L.K. ADVANI , LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION IN THE LOK SABHA .

    THR RSS` POLUTED WING BJP IS NOW A DIVIDED HOUSE .THE IS ALSO A PUNJABI PROVERB ‘ HANKARIYA SO MARIYAA ‘ MEANS ‘ THE PRIDE HATH A FALL ‘

    Rain forces VHP to postpone World Hindu Convention
    COURTESY :
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rain-forces-vhp-to-postpone-world-hindu-convention/23143/

  202. C . L . CHUMBER said

    A NON-BRAHMIN SIKH ACHIEVED THE BIGGEST PACKAGE IN USA !!!!!

    Banga bags a bonanza @Mastercard

    Ajaypal Banga, Asia-Pacific CEO of crisis-ridden behemoth CITIGROUP , will get a package of about Rs 90 crore as the new second-in-command at payment services firm MasterCard–an offer that could be billed as the biggest package in the current state of the global economy.
    COURTESY :
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=8f12995a-2096-410d-828a-3c381086ba87&Headline=Banga+bags+a+bonanza+%40Mastercard

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    April 24, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
    MR. VIKARAM PANDITA AMONG US`20 WORST-EVER CEOs !!!!!
    http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/ArticleImage.aspx?article=24_04_2009_001_018&mode=1

  203. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHO INVENTED CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM ?
    http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=WHO+INVENTED+CASTE+%2F+VARNA+SYSTEM+%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

  204. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHO INVENTED UNTOUCHABILITY ?

    COURTESY :http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=WHO+INVENTED+UNTOUCHABILITY+%3F&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

  205. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THERE ARE MANY EVENTS TO BE DISCUSSED .IN A PURANA , THE HINDU MATA ALLURED BRAHMA , VISHANU AND MAHESH TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HER !!!!! THEY REFUSED TO DO SO AND SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERCOURSE WITH THEIR MOTHER .

    COURTESY : https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/narendra-modi-and-the-fall-of-hindutva/

  206. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DO YOU LIKE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AND UNTOUCHABILITY OR NOT ?

    I HAVE ALSO SEARCHED ON GOOGLE LIKE YOU AND FOUND THAT BRAHMA AND VISHANU RAPED YOU . LINK ( BRAHMA AND VISHANU RAPED HAPPY HINDU .http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=BRAHMA+AND+VISHANU+RAPED+HAPPY+HINDU+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=)

    chumbersmrithi said
    July 6, 2009 @ 2:37 am
    chumber invented caste / varna system:

    http://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=en&q=chumber+invented+caste+%2F+varna+system&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    google has provided 2000 “references” !!

    chumbersmrithi said
    July 6, 2009 @ 2:36 am
    Chumber invented untouchability:

    http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=chumber%20invented%20untouchability&hl=en&ned=en_sg&tab=nw

    Google has provided 53,300 “references” !!

  207. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ HOW JUDICIARY , EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATURE FAIL TO DELIVER JUSTICE TO EVEN A MURDERED PERSON !!!!!

    – – –

    * MP CHIEF MINISTER HAS PRIVATE VISIT WITH SABHARWAL MURDER SUSPECTS .

    COURTESY :
    http://www.indiatime.com/2008/01/04/mp-chief-minister-has-private-visit-with-sabharwal-murder-suspects/

  208. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHERE IS THE UNRECORDED MONEY ? HRD CLUELESS !!!!!
    Filed under:

    * Education

    To create awareness among the people on education and make people literate Elementary Education (EE) and Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan (SSA) plays a vital role. This was an appreciable initiative of the Government of India. But when the budget allotment and investment create a big gap; Human Resource Ministry keep mum shows something messy. The budget was Rs 8004.71-cr but audit report says a minus of 5,580.72 crore has been spent. Where is the rest of money! HRD clueless.
    Out of Rs 8004.71-cr allotted for the development work of EE and SSA, Rs 2,324.99 crore was spent through record. Rest amount of money as spent for the development work for which no records are available.
    The Finance Ministry collected a huge amount of money by way of two percent cess from the taxpayers. In this process the total collected funds were Rs 5,010 crore. The missing report of this huge expenditure indicates a misuse of funds. The poor performance of the national literacy mission in some states like Bihar and Uttar Pradesh proves the misuse of funds.
    As there were some department heads under whose guidance allotted funds had to spend but interestingly there was no heads to spend an amount of Rs 5,680.72 crore.
    The funds spent through these heads: Mid-day meal, district primary education, Kusturba Gandhi Balika Vidyalaya, support to NGOs, Jan Sikshan Sangathan. In the audit report there has been clearly mentioned about the expenses and return of money to Union Finance ministry.
    The state governments are spending a huge amount of money under this scheme, as per the report is concerned. Recruitment of para-teachers, construction of buildings and elementary education campaign are the three vital source of expenditure, as HRD report says.
    The misuse of funds may prove from the recruitment of Para-teachers. When the HRD Ministry sanctioned for a total of 7.7 lakh posts, 3.45-lakh ad hoc teachers have been employed yet
    COURTESY :
    http://news.education4india.com/893/where-is-the-unrecorded-money-hrd-clueless/

  209. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DEAR VIEWERS,
    I FEEL PLEASURE TO SUPPLY LINK OF ” VEDAS ONLINE ” SO THAT WE MAY READ AND KNOW THE REALITY . THANKS .
    C.L.CHUMBER

    Dear Members,

    I am glad to announce the release of the mirror site
    for Rig Veda text with english translation of Sayana’s
    commentary.

    The URL is

    http://www.srivaishnava.org

    and select the “Rig Veda” link from the Vedas section

    The online version is presented in 10 mandalas (or books).
    These documents are best if viewed using Netscape 4.06 or
    later version, IE 4.* or later version. (Earlier versions of
    Netscape and IE do not support dynamic fonts and so will
    not render these pages in required fonts).

    The Mandala 1 is about 1.8 Mb in size and may be slow in
    downloading.

    I would like to thank Dr. S. Kalyanaraman for providing the
    permission to host the texts. Please visist his Sarsvati
    Sindu project that documents the history and archeological
    discoveries of the Sarasvati river civilization. A link is
    provided from the Rig Veda page (TOC).

    Venkatesh K. Elayavalli Cypress Semiconductor
    Data Communications Division 3901 N. First St. MS 4
    Phone: (408) 456 1858 San Jose CA 95134
    Fax: (408) 943 2949

    Courtesy :
    http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may99/0029.html

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      lol 😀 good….atleast read the rigved now.

  210. C.L.CHUMBER said

    A STUPID PERSON CAN NOT APPRECIATE A GOOD STEP !!!!!

    ToAStupidFellow said
    July 28, 2009 @ 11:16 am

    lol 😀 good….atleast read the rigved now.

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      Chumber, with your stupidity it is understood where you will still end up.

  211. C.L.CHUMBER said

    rajashekar said
    July 23, 2009 @ 11:41 am

    Mr.Chumber,

    Thank you for the link.

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 22, 2009 @ 3:48 am
    INDIAN CONSTITUTION ONLINE

    DEAR VIEWERS,
    I FEEL PLEASURE TO SUPPLY LINK OF ” THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION ONLINE ”
    C.L.CHUMBER

  212. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    PLEASE READ THE PARLIAMENTARY LANGUAGE ( ? ) OF A PERSON WHO HAVE NO NAME .

    ToAStupidFellow said
    August 4, 2009 @ 6:39 pm
    Chumber, with your stupidity it is understood where you will still end up.

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      Chumber@Dukhi Stupid Fellow @ Ram Karishan Sharma @ Anita Gupta,

      If you are man enough just cut the crap, GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW and prove all your allegations in court. Also prove that you have been using parliamentary language so far.

  213. C L . CHUMBER said

    Education bill ‘flawed’, will move Supreme Court : Expert
    Twitter Delicious Myspace Digg Stumble Upon Facebook Wed, Aug 5 06:56 PM
    New Delhi, Aug 5 (IANS) Unhappy over provisions of the education bill passed in the Lok Sabha Tuesday to ensure free and compulsory education to children aged 6-14 years, a leading educationist Wednesday protested the ‘highly flawed bill’ and said he will challenge it in the Supreme Court.

    Rejecting Human Resource Development Minister Kapil Sibal’s claim that it was a ‘historic legislation’, eminent educationist Anil Sadgopal said: ‘It will be the most unfortunate day when the bill eventually becomes a legislation.’

    According to him, many educationists and civil rights groups are organising a protest Friday against the bill at the Jantar Mantar here against the ‘highly flawed and anti-child legislation’.

    Sadgopal, who was a member of the 2005 Central Advisory Board of Education (CABE) headed by Kapil Sibal to work on the right to education legislation, said: ‘The bill will help the private sector schools and in no way provide for equal educational opportunities to all.’

    ‘Will the private schools stop charging fees from children aged six to 14 years after this? The bill is silent,’ Sadgopal told IANS by phone from Bhopal.

    ‘It provides for 25 percent reservation to children from backward and economically weak sections. It doesn’t spell out if they would sit in the same classroom. Will the private schools sit such children with the fee-paying ones?’

    ‘It is yet to become a law and awaiting the presidential assent. We plan to file a public interest litigation in the Supreme Court challenging the bill, and will call on President Pratibha Patil to return it,’ he said.

    Murmurs of protest had already started after the bill was first passed in the Rajya Sabha July 20 – with demonstrations by groups of academicians in Hyderabad the next day, a rally by over 700 women in Kolhapur in Maharashtra July 23, and in Bhopal five days later.

    When told that there was at least some legislation that finally guarantees children the right to education, Sadgopal said: ‘There is already such a guarantee in the constitution of India, you don’t need another law for the purpose.’

    He said there was ‘not a word on pre-primary education’ while a neighbourhood school had not been defined and the legislation left it open to the states to decide on it.

    Sadgopal, rights activist Medha Patkar and others also called on Speaker Meira Kumar July 23 under the banner of All India Forum for Right to Education.

    ‘We presented to her that the bill had been introduced and passed (then in the Rajya Sabha) without a single public hearing for a legislation with such far-reaching consequences,’ he said
    Courtesy : http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090805/818/tnl-education-bill-flawed-will-move-supr.html

  214. C . L . CHUMBER said

    C.L.CHUMBER said
    August 1, 2009 @ 6:06 pm
    MR. SHUKRA CHARYA`S FAMILY LADIES MAY BE PROSITUTES BUT C.L.CHUMBER WILL NEVER BE THE STOOGE OF ANY BODY !!!!!

    IS THERE ANY PROOF AGAINST ME ?

    THESE ARE THE REPEATED ALLEGATIONS OF M/S HAPPY HINDU CLUB MEMBERS AS THEY ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE TREACHEROUS FORE FATHERS !!!!!

    WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM THOSE WHO WORSHIP BRAHMA WHO MARRIED TO HIS OWN DAUGHTER SARASWATI ? ? ? ? ?

    MR. SHUKRA CHARYA IS A STAUNCH FOLLOWER OF BRAHMA AN IT MAY BE DOUBTED THAT HE WILL ALSO MARY TO HIS DAUGHTER LIKE HIS IDEAL BRAHMA !!!!!

    I HAVE FULL REGARDS FOR HIS FAMILY LADIES BUT THEY DID NOT BROUGHT UP SHUKRA CHARYA IN A HUMANISTIC WAY !!!!!

    HE IS A CURSE ON THE SOCIETY !!!!!

    Sukra Charya said
    July 16, 2009 @ 6:33 pm
    “Doctors advised ..and not to worship the evil Gods.”

    Chumber-ji,
    A person who advises others that they should not worship evil Gods, is not a doctor. He is a missionary. He has no faith in his beliefs. He is mercenary and will talk about “evil Gods” as long as he gets paid.

    Once the payment stops, he will change professions and will start selling something else. Maybe Insurance.

    Courtesy :
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/a-letter-to-narendra-modi/

  215. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU / A STUPID PERSON !

    I DARE TO CHALLENGE YOU IN THE COURT WHICH MAY GAVE JUDGEMENT AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS .

    I AM WINNER IN THE E-DIALOGUE AND I WILL BE WINNER ALSO IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT !

    • hh said

      Then stop talking on this blog and GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW. Come to court and prove your allegations.

  216. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW.

    hh said
    August 20, 2009 @ 11:39 am

    Then stop talking on this blog and GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW. Come to court and prove your allegations.

  217. C.L.CHUMBER said

    A STUPID FELLOW AND HAPPY HINDU ARE THE SAME PERSON WHO PASTE THE SAME ISSUE AND WORDINGS !!!!!

    ToAStupidFellow said
    August 11, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

    Chumber,

    Simply by providing a link does not mean you are providing references.

    You have to provide the exact verses to prove your allegations.

    If you are a human at all and not some wild animal, then GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW, COME TO COURT AND PROVE ALL YOUR ALLEGATIONS.

    hh said
    August 20, 2009 @ 11:39 am

    Then stop talking on this blog and GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW. Come to court and prove your allegations.

  218. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR EVER TO THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    ***************************************************************************

    TO THE MEMBERS OF THE HAPPY HINDU NON-SENSE VAIDIK ABUSER CLUB !

    I AS WELL AS THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com ARE READY TO PUT OVER CASE IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT .

    YOU ARE THREATENING US FOR THE LAST ONE YEAR BUT YOU NEVER FILED CASE IN THE COURT .

    YOU SO MANY TIMES WROTE THAT YOU DID NOT HONOUR THE SUPREME COURT`S JUDGEMENT ON ” IDIOT ” .

    FIRST OF ALL , THE COURT WILL ASK YOU AND WILL SEND YOU IN THE JAIL FOR DISOBEYING THE SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT .

    PLEASE DO NOT BARK BY ABUSING US FREEQUENTLY . WHENEVER WE WILL MEET IN THE COURT PREMISES , THE PEOPLE WILL DEFACE YOU AS YOU WROTE THAT VALMIKI , AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS WITHOUT ANY PROOF .

    WE ARE READY FOR LEGAL BATTLE !

    • hh said

      You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.

      You deal with Sanjam’s words seperately. Do not link me with him.

      Provide the following details, we will file a case :

      1) Your full name
      2) Your date of birth
      3) Voter’id card number
      4) PAN number
      5) Residential address
      6) Occupation and office address
      7) Names of family members
      8 ) Your annual income tax returns and proof of funding sources.

      Just provide the details instead of talking, deviating and misleading. The rest will be handled in court.

      You sure cannot deny your khalistan links. Talk all that you want to talk in court. You will certainly be tried under TADA charges and sent to jail.

  219. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Dear Happy Hindu ,
    Please supply me the following information regarding your self as I want to file a case against you :
    1. Whether your parents’marriage was arranged or love marriage ?
    2. Whether your parents’marriage was intercaste or not ?
    3.Whether your father is older than your mother or vice versa ?
    4.Whether your father is taller than your mother or vice versa ?
    5.When your father seen first ever your mother and where ?
    6.Where they met at what time ?
    7.What is the date of marriage of your parents , venue of marriage and supply me at least one photograph of the marriage occasion .
    8.Where did your parents celebrated honey moon ?
    9.When was your mother incepted to gave birth to you ?
    10.Are your parents alive or not ?
    11. Can you supply me your DNA report ?
    12.Can you supply me your parent`s marriage certificate ?
    13. Can you supply me the income tax returns filed by your parents .
    14.Can you give me accounts of the expenses spent by your parents on you up to your marriage ?
    15.Can you supply me the Indian citizen proof of your parents ?
    and many more inquiries after you reply the above in positive !

    hh said
    October 7, 2009 @ 9:27 am
    You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.

  220. Stan said

    whoever the fuck you are , you are unfit to exist on this planet earth and especially in India. Get the fuck out of here if you don’t like it

  221. DEAR SHAITAN !
    PLEASE HOLD ON YOUR TOUNGE .INDIA IS FOR INDIAN CITIZENS .WHO ARE YOU TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE INDIA ? THE WORSHIPERS OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS MAY LEAVE INDIA AS THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION DO NOT RECOGNIZES THEM .
    Stan said
    November 21, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
    whoever the fuck you are , you are unfit to exist on this planet earth and especially in India. Get the fuck out of here if you don’t like it

  222. Dear viewers ,
    I am yet waiting the reply .
    C.L .CHUMBER said
    November 14, 2008 @ 9:25 am
    I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
    Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –

    ( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
    ( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
    ( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
    ( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
    ( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
    ( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
    ( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
    ( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVRY TOME BY INTERCOURSING KASHATTRIYA LADIES BY HIS BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY !
    ( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
    ( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
    ( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
    ( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
    ( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
    AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .

    NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
    BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!
    Courtesy :
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/brahmin-deception-through-dalai-lama-part-1/#comment-8208

    • Truth said

      /**
      ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
      */
      What Happened to this Gods? After that have tried to finf out

      /**
      3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE

      SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS
      */

      You should Answer..

      /*
      ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A

      BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
      */

      After That Brahma is not Worshipped.. Have seen Temples of Bharama Outside Pushakar if So

      how much?

      /*
      ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH

      MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
      */

      What happened to Vishu .. He turned in Stone Know as Saligram..

      /**
      ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
      */

      They.. Y forget He Loved Radha.. before Rukmani..

      /**
      ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
      */

      Has Ramma married After That?
      I was King.. he Respected His People Wish More Then Family.. On Question Raised By

      “Washer Man(Dhobi )” Rold Sita to Leave from Palace.. So Who is Reposble A washerman

      (Dovi) or Ram?

      /**
      ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID

      NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA

      VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVRY TOME BY INTERCOURSING

      KASHATTRIYA LADIES BY HIS BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY !
      */

      Then y u Forget to mention that Renuka was Brought back to Life by parsuram father..
      and Y you forget.. Varna of Parsuram was Khastriya but His Birth was With Rishis?

      /**
      ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM
      **/
      And Vishnu Provided Rastla Loka.. and Vishu stands as Watch man there..

      /**
      ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH

      OPPONENTS
      */

      What happened to Indra.. He lost Guru.. He lost his Sarga after That ACT..

      /**
      ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14

      YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
      **/

      Who Asked To Laxmana to Go and Search RAM? Isn’t it was SITA?

      /**
      ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
      AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES
      */

      What happeened to them After That? They Lost Kingdom , They lost respect..

      Half Knowledge is more dangerous then any think Else It proved Again and Again people like You

  223. C . L . CHUMBER said

    BABRI MASJID DEMOLITION WAS PLANNED : LIBERHAN
    By Vidya Subrahmaniam
    REPORT INDICTS ADVANI , JOSHI ,VAJPAYEE

    Report squarely blames Kalyan Singh
    Comes down on ‘pseudo-moderates

    New Delhi: The demolition of the Babri Masjid was planned, systematic, and was the intended outcome of a climate of communal intolerance deliberately created by the Sangh Parivar and its sister affiliates, including the Bharatiya Janata Party.

    This is the key finding of the nearly 1000-page-long report of the one-man Liberhan Commission on the catastrophic events of December 6, 1992.

    The report places individual culpability for the demolition on a total of 68 persons, the bulk of them drawn from the extended Parivar clan comprising the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the Bajrang Dal and the BJP. The BJP contingent includes not just Hindutva ideologues Lal Krishna Advani and Murli Manhohar Joshi, but, surprisingly, also the party’s celebrated moderate face, Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

    Justice Manmohan Singh Liberhan reserves the brunt of his searing commentary for the then Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Kalyan Singh, under whose watch the 16th century mosque met its calamitous end: “Kalyan Singh, his Ministers and his hand-picked bureaucrats created man-made and cataclysmic circumstances which could result in no consequences other than the demolition of the disputed structure… They denuded the State of every legal, moral and statutory restraint and wilfully enabled and facilitated the wanton destruction and the ensuing anarchy.”

    Justice Liberhan, who took 16 years and six months to compile the meticulously assembled report — comprising 16 chapters including conclusions and recommendations, besides maps, an afterword and a list of witnesses — is unsparing of the BJP’s central leadership, calling the triumvirate of Mr. Vajpayee, Mr. Advani and Mr. Joshi pseudo-moderates who constantly “protested their innocence and denounced the events of December 6.”

    However, says the judge, “having analysed many hours of audio and video recordings and having observed the witnesses, [the commission] is unable to hold even these pseudo-moderates innocent of any wrongdoings.”

    Justice Liberhan goes on to say, “It cannot be assumed even for a moment that L.K. Advani, A.B. Vajpayee or M.M. Joshi did not know the designs of the Sangh Parivar. Even though these leaders were deemed and used by the Parivar … to reassure the cautious masses, they were [in fact] party to the decisions which had been taken.”

    Courtesy :http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/25/stories/2009112558130100.htm

    • Civan said

      http://Www.civanharappana.com about Dasyustan,Dalitstan,Tantra land,genocidial Brahmins and more!. With greetings and bessings from civan!

      • Shankar said

        Get the website running first, BEQUASE without it, I cannot see how informed you are

  224. Karthik said

    Dalailama is a coward shit. when kalachakra festival took place in Amaravathi in Guntur. he declared that hindu and buddist religions are twins to please the hindus 🙂

  225. Civan said

    Vanakam! Everybody please contact my?. I need soms real black Dasyu pictures for my webpage, for some effidence.

    • Civan said

      Did you all know that the first Buddha whas an black prince from ancient Egypt. The Vedic poeple have falsified the ancient history of the non vedic Buddhism in India. The 14 Dalay lama is also an racist devil. They misused my tantras for evil racist activeties. The Dalay lama is an racist lier. He don,t like black poeple. Possible he is an slave of the evil racist New-world-Order from the V.S. Namely the revive of the racist Adolf hitler Nazi,s. They also have falsified my kalachackra scriptures for the White racists!. Beqause my ancient scriptures all were by black tantra poeples. The evil parasitc racists always will misused our ancient tantra knowledge, beqause they are yalous on our ancient black knowledge. In the acient early past, the world was ruled by high civalized black poeples. Namely the ancient 5 headed snake kindom. The ancient mohenjo daro, harappana, Egyptians, sumerians, and ancient Africans where all black, and where all connected in our snake kingdom. But the whites and arab pseudo- scoolars and scientist have created fake black histories. This also goes for the ancient black African Americans like Olmecs. This was before the Native indians and mayans have take over the American continent, and much later the White racists Christian poeples. All our ancient black kindoms were 100% non vedic cultures. You also can find the ancient Dravidian Tamil brahmi scribtures in some ancient American, and Egyptian temples. The evil racist parasitic vedic brahmins belonged to the racists, who will take in our globe. But the reteurn of the flying 5 headed snake means the destruction of all racists on Earth. Sender: http://www.civanharappana.com jai sab mere dalits!

  226. Truth and nothing but truth, that is what I felt after reading this article. Thanks for putting such revealing story about Dalai Lama and brahminical conspiracy to destroy dalits movement.

    Saint
    Upliftthem

  227. Truth said

    http://untoldfacts.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/answer-to-who-killed-bhuddsim-in-india/

  228. vishal said

    only ambedker do right ,think right his everything is right how foolish think .he is great enemey of india unity and his follower pushp kumar thinndia is not a nation so you may go china or pakistan and dalit nation writer corect thier history knowledge about fall of buddisam

  229. cunning bama_n said

    Don’t spread rumor about Dalai lama. He denies god which makes manuwadi priests useless in their cunning scriptures.

  230. Abhinav said

    ARTICLE IS WRONG.

    This Article is incorrect. Dalai Lama never criticized Dr.Ambedkar. Dalai Lama praised Ambedkar. The above Post has no authenticity at all.

  231. Shankar said

    Reading all the blog posts, it is clearly evident that you have developed a hatred against the Hindu religion. This is not going to do any good for you. Come out of the hatred cocoon. The so called reservation thing you claim, DR. Ambedkar himself was against it. He proposed the reservation system for the initial 15-20 years so that an entire generation improvise and look how the votebank politics has used it to lure the people. The so called politicians who claim to do “upliftment of the downtrodden” do nothing but keep reminding the people that they are downtrodden, they are being abused etc. People like the one who runs this website, are hand in pocket with these politicians and make money for themselves, occassionaly spitting out verbal diarrhea about caste system, brahminism etc for which the naive audience clap thinking that they have found a messiah. All I want to say is “get a life”, stop this bullshit writing.

  232. nobodybusiness said

    Jai Chota Bheem .. Ambedkarite Buddhism is a joke not worth a “fart laugh”

  233. ashoka said

    This is Anti Hinduism xtian propoganda by all lies no materials. So hatefull and spitting venom on Shankaracharya as pigmy. Shame on xtian bigots their only aim is dividing Hinduism brick by brick to make way for dirty conversion industry.

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