Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther

Arvind Adiga, a Brahmin from coastal Karnataka recently got the Booker Prize for his novel ‘White Tiger’. The novel describes the travails of a Dalit man from north India and how he finally triumphs over his slavery to the feudal upper caste and becomes an entrepreneur in the IT city of Bangalore.

Many reviewers have mentioned that the novel represents the struggle of a Dalit Man and his attainment of the ‘Indian Dream’. Several so called Dalit intellectuals got this book to the notice of the editor of Dalit Nation. We finally read the book and tried to put it in perspective within the overall Dalit literature and body of knowledge. What we found in this process was not in consonance with the rest of the reviewers.

The author of ‘White Tiger’ divides India into two – the Light part and the Dark part. The land of darkness is the cow belt states of North India – UP, Bihar, MP. The land of light are the states of the south especially cities like Bangalore and Hyderabad. This is the basic flaw of the novel. The author has assumed that caste equations are predominant in the northern Indian villages and the southern cities are lands of milk and honey where free will and thereby entrepreneurs can thrive. In the northern villages the destiny of Dalit men are fixed and irrevocable. The Dalits are born in such squalor where the parents forget to name their children. They finally end up as the servant, cleaners and car drivers of the upper feudal caste.

The basic problem with this premise is that it gives a clean chit to the southern cities. The editor of Dalit Nation has lived in Indian metropolitan cities and is well aware of the deeply entrenched casteism in these cities. The IT industry in Bangalore is no haven of equality (Read our article – Dalits must agitate for reservation in private sector). We have proved this time and again that the majority of the resources in the cities are appropriated by the upper caste and they control all major business and administration. But Arvind Adiga finds it the right place for the Dalit hero of the novel to escape and find emancipation.

In the whole book there is no mention of our great leader Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar. There is mention of Gandhi in a disparaging way but nowhere the messiah of Dalits is mentioned. The Brahmin author of this novel has no clue about Dalits and northern India and how much the Dalits venerate Babasaheb. The Brahmin Adiga even fails to mention the term Dalit in the whole of the novel. Dalit is a powerful term and it is through this identity all our oppressed brethren relate to each other. It is a clever ploy of the upper caste writers to avoid such words as Dalit and thereby strip them of our identity.

Babasaheb taught the mantra – ‘educate, organize and agitate’. But this novel does not contain any elements of the Dalit mantra. The Dalit hero, Balaram Halwai is uneducated and there is no effort or striving among his community towards education. They seem to be happy in their illiteracy and their impending destiny of life long slavery. And how does the dalit hero escape from the slavery of the upper castes. He works as a car driver to his American educated feudal lord and finally murders him, steals his money and escapes to Bangalore. What is the message the Dalits should take from this stupid book. That they should murder and steal and that is the only way our for them. What nonsense. Is this what Babasaheb taught them.

Why did not the hero of the novel and his community get educated , organized themselves and agitate against the upper caste people. This is what Babasaheb would have done and this is what he exhorted the Dalits to do all his life. But for the Brahmin Adiga the only way out for a Dalit is to murder, steal and live like a fugitive.

And how does our Balram Halwai gets deliverance in Bangalore. He opens a transportation company for call centres by renting out a few vehicles. Is this the success story of a Dalit. I was anticipating the Dalit hero to become a CEO of a software company. But he again ends up as driver or rather a person who hires many drivers.

Does not Arvind Adiga know that we have a Dalit Chief Minister Mayavathi, does he even know who people like Jagajivan Ram and K.R.Narayanan were. Does he know that Babasaheb had a Phd from Columbia University. He finally made the Dalit hero to become the the scum of the IT industry in Bangalore and he wants us to believe that he has found his salvation there. Babasaheb was a lawyer himself and he did not believe in murder or stealing. He believed in the law and was the first law minister of Independent India. Babasaheb was a socialist and believed that state reform is needed for the emancipation of Dalits. But here the Brahmin Adiga gives us a false hope in free market capitalism. The very same capitalism which fuels feudalism and exploitation is praised by the author. What a shame.

Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’.

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  1. C.L.CHUMBER said

    It is very sad to read that Mr.Arvind Adiga did not describ the dalits prpoperly in his novel . We should write our own history and fiction .Their bent of minds are manuwadi that is why they do not recognise dalit leadership and ideology .

    We must expose their rapist , racist and fascist gods to make them Godless people . We must expose their present political and religious leadership to make them leaderless at present . We must not bother how much they abuse like dogs .They have no truth .

  2. […] Dalit Nation, Arvind Adiga’s book gets a good fisking. Babasaheb taught the mantra – ‘educate, organize and agitate’. But this novel does not […]

    • rohit said

      why u people are always agains one community . Iam not a brahmin.
      dont you struggle in life and get it down.instead of begging that iam a dalit.

      • Gaurav Dani said

        hey rohit i m glad that u r not a brahmin it means ur my brother, and i m from schedule caste listen… we r not against one community… we r against brahmin and their new culture of Castisum in our India.
        please mark that brahmins r not from our country(frist please make ur base strong of right history & then try to comment otherwise their no diffrence in u & brahmin ) they r out siders and they r forcing their non-human culture on us till today, we means we all non-brahmins are NAGVANSHI of India and we r having our great culture we not need to change our”s, hence we r agains brahmins only brahmins… and all others r our brothers…. think on it…. or Call me on 9822446136. or try to read good books for your knowledge… mainly books of non-brahmins Activists or publication of MARATHA SEVA SANGHA… do reply…

      • lauda krishnass m[]m said

        rohit can u advise brahmins to stop begging in the name of god ..

        thank you !!!

  3. Rishi S. said

    Why did not the hero of the novel and his community get educated , organized themselves and agitate against the upper caste people.

    Perhaps you should come up with a template for all ‘Dalit-Fiction’ to follow…that way, even if the novel sucks, one will atleast have the satisfaction of being morally correct.

  4. happyhindu said

    oh yea, creating and seeing differences where there are none is an extension of your love for hate…..it does not matter to you that worldwide there will always be ppl who are poor and ppl who are rich – but you will try and dig and somehow find “caste” and nail it as the biggest responsible factor for any division on earth…

    but then i suppose this is what you guys do for a living – twist things around to make money out of it…i suppose writing such trash greatly helps you to get funds from evangelical organizations and it also pays you for a free trip to the UK. shame on you man…shame on you..you guys better stop calling yourselves as indians..

  5. Prabin said

    (will comment when I read the book) but its true that the caste-hindus would never be able to associate with Dalit Struggle for Humanity competely.

    Your review reminds me a phrase of a Great Black Actor Bill Cosby, “…that’s a subtle racism of lower expectation”. Truely, its discriminatory to assume that Dalits’ would be happy with smaller accomplishments, and thus expecting lower standards from us.

  6. Parampada said

    “its true that the caste-hindus would never be able to associate with Dalit Struggle for Humanity competely. ”

    So Humanism is the sole preserve of ‘Dalit Activists’. Hindus never never. This view is just illogical and is part of a conspiracy of demonizing huge populations towards a world view you beleive in.
    It is one of the typical manifestations in radical groups based on identity politics to de-humanize their perceived enemies. This Prabin is following the same hallowed tradition.

  7. Prabin said

    “This Prabin is following the same hallowed tradition.” (emphasis on hallowed)

    thank you. 🙂

    btw did u even try to understand what I was saying ? Why the word completely was used? Why Bil Cosby was quoted? Read Paulo freire’s “Pedagogy of the oppressed” Chapter-1. May be you ‘ll have some ideas about humanisation/dehumanisation and (false) generosity of the oppressors. Untill then ciao

  8. Ltn said

    “its true that the caste-hindus would never be able to associate with Dalit Struggle for Humanity competely. ”
    ————–

    Imho, its just struggle for resources and stature…’caste’ just happens to get blamed as a factor on the way…

    Wud like to tell Prabin that my sis had an iyer friend, who had a brother. He had a friend who lived in a hut-like shelter near my place. This so-called ‘iyer’ guy and this so-called ‘dalit’ guy wud exchange college notes, laugh, hang-out many evenings and were great friends. After marriage, i lost touch with them. And it amazes me that someone can view things like the statement above.

    Regards.

  9. Apasthamba said

    If you are a third-world writer or film producer, the quickest way to earn money and fame in the west these days, is to slam your own country / culture / religion.
    Numerous people have achieved fame & fortune doing just that, and Adiga is the latest entrant. Salman Rushdie, Mira Nair, Deepa Mehta, Arundhati Roy, Tasleema Nasreen, and now Adiga.

    I am a bit confused why Dalit Nation is abusing Arvind Adiga as the leaders of all Dalit Movements employ the same strategy. They go on abusing India and Hinduism for all the ills plaguing Mankind at every conceivable opportunity. That’s how people like Kancha Ilaiah, V.T. Rajshekar, Gail Omvedt. Chandrabhan Prasad, V.B. Rawat and many many others have carved a successful career for themselves. They have been bestowed with lot of Goodies and foreign exurcusions for their ‘Scholarly Works’ on India. Believe me it pays. Also you should remember that none of these people have hardly faced any exploitation. Rather most of these so called Dalit scholars had it too easy for themselves from the goodies offered by the Government. You can write any rubbish and can be called a scholar. As an example look at the poetry of Varavara Rao. It is absolute trash and cannot even be called poetry. But still it is called revolutionary.

    For all Budding writers from India, just highlight the problems of India and you will be recognized. Add to this a dash of terms like Upper Caste exploitation, Untouchability, Thousands and Thousands of years of oppression, proletarian revolution etc. Submit your writings to publishers like Macmillan, CUP, Pelican, Bloosbusry and you have a high degree of success in getting your trash published and even go for an award like the Hooker (Courtesy Dalit Nation) Prize. Thats what Adiga the wily Brahmin did.

  10. C.L .CHUMBER said

    ADVANI LAID FOUNDATION OF TERRORISM!- DIGVIJAY SINGH

    The Indian National Congress general secretary Mr. Digvijay Singh charged on Saturday , 20th December , 2008 that BJP’s Prime Ministerial candidate Mr. L K Advani had ‘ laid the foundation stone of terrorism ‘ in the country by taking out Ram Rath Yatras.

    He returned from ‘ Sadbhavna Rally ‘ – Communal Harmony Rally at Azamgarh (U .P.), Mr. Digvijay Singh said that ‘ terrorism spread in the country because of the politics of hate by BJP and specially its Prime Ministerial candidate Mr. L .K. Advani`s Ram Rath yatras.’

    “Politics on terrorism is not good for the country and the BJP must understand this”, he added. Mr. Digvijay Singh said rightly but what the congress did to counter Mr. Advani`s Ram Rath Yatra. Mr. Lalu Parshad Yadav, chief minister of Bihar at that time arrested Mr. Advani in Bihar. Mr. Advani and his party demolished the Babri Mosque at Ayodhya (U.P.) on 6th December, 1992 and the congress government at centre did nothing to stop demolition of the Babri Mosque.

    Both congress and BJP leadership are committed to establish the Ram Rajya in which a revolutionary, innocent and pious saint Shambuk was killed by anarchist king Ram Chander. He was so dictatorial and mindless person that he even banished his innocent and pious wife Sita. He humiliated so much her that she had to at last commit suicide. He killed saint Shambuk at a Shambuk Tek hill 64 kms away from Nagpur ( Maharashtra). It is recorded in the book “Temples of Maharashtra “published by the Maharashtra Government and the district gazetteer Nagpur. I discovered this site on the Holy Day, 1995 when I was returning from Chennai after attending Sahib Kanshi Ram’s birthday celebration rally at the Marina beach.

  11. happyhindu said

    ADVANI LAID FOUNDATION OF TERRORISM!- DIGVIJAY SINGH
    ————

    Who cares about Advani…..you are a “economic terrorist” yourself Chumber – bcoz you do not allow the so-called ‘dalits’ to come up beyond an iron-curtain of casteism of your own making….

  12. C.L. CHUMBER said

    WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THIS CASTEISM ? ? ? ? ?

  13. happyhindu said

    WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THIS CASTEISM ? ? ? ? ?
    ———–

    You.

  14. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THEN I AM THE BRAHMA !!!!!

  15. happyhindu said

    THEN I AM THE BRAHMA !!!!!
    ————

    Brahma did not invent casteism.

    There were too many people by the name of Brahma who lived on earth. Just as there are so many people by the name of Chumber that live on earth now.

    There was nobody called Brahma who who lived on earth to create a caste system.

    There were only story-writers who expressed things as per their ability and capacity.

    If i write a story about Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva as per my imagination, will you beleive it as a real incident? Then why do you believe that Brahma invented caste system?

    Even now, there is no caste system. The problem is with an imaginary “Class System”.

    Class system was fluid. Atleast in south-india it was very fluid; and still remains fluid in some form or the other. This fluidity was called sanskritization.

    In those time, an animal sacrificer could become a priest. A priest could become a king. A prince could head a trading guild. A trader could chose a life of no-materialism, leave everything and become a sanyasi. An animal sacrificer could be forced to become a carcass handler. Such things have happened. This was sanskritization, the upward way and reverse-sanskritization, the downward way. Both have happened.

    Now we have a different class system. It has come about due to industrialization, open economy systems and wealth growth. Its a completely different scenario.

    The old class system does not actually exist in reality. But it is kept alive in memory and propagated so that it will continue to exist for those who wish to make a career out of it — politicians.

    Those that hold on to the old class system also include people who do not want to live and let live — they are people like the OBCs who exploit the poor.

    You need to battle both — the people holding on to the old class systems and the politicians who hold on to it — both of them are exploiters.

    First stop calling yourself a dalit.
    You are a dalit only if you consider yourself as one.

    On social terms you are wrong about brahma.
    But on spiritual terms you are right – yes you are Brahma; because by seeking the Brahman within you, you can be Brahman.

  16. C.L.CHUMBER said

    I HATE BRAHMA AND BRAHMINS WHO INVENTED , MANTAINED AND GLORIFIED THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!

  17. happyhindu said

    Chumber,

    I meant you need to battle both the OBCs and politicians who are exploting you based on “caste”. Both want you to stay as a ‘dalit’ and remain poor, one for your labour and another for your votes.

    i spoke to a wrong person about seeking union with the brahman. If you do not like that path, leave it since it has nothing to do with social position. But you absolutely have no right to indulge in spreading falsehood about hindu scriptures, brahmin-bashing, endorse political marriages, hindu-whitewashing, and all the nonsense you do.

  18. happyhindu said

    I HATE BRAHMA AND BRAHMINS WHO INVENTED , MANTAINED AND GLORIFIED THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!
    —–

    Then keep hating yourself. You are born to live hate. Congrats.

    In the meantime don’t keep lying that somebody called brahma invented caste system.

    Remeber that a dastardly politician like you is the inventor, upholder and maintainer of the caste system.

  19. C.L.CHUMBER said

    HOW HAPPY HINDU IS A RIGHT PERSON AND CHUMBER IS A WRONG PERSON ?

  20. kumarpushp said

    Dear Happyhindu,no body bashing Brahmins, we just tell how brahmins have exploited the OBCs and dalits.We have no problems with brahmins who are reading Ramayana T>Rajshekhar and Mr iLIah Kanchan .We donot want that any riots in India if RSS and VHP and Bajrang Dal wanted any riots let them die we donot want dalits brothers are killing own muslim blood brothers.every dalit mothers,Sisters,Fathers look at the Dr Ambedkar and dream for pagamber and pray for god that he son should become like Dr Ambedkar.Dear Happyhindus ,we donot want any opression or suppression in Name of Hindu dharma any more.

  21. happyhindu said

    Kumarpaush,

    There is no supression in the name of hindu dharma.

    Some brahmins only claimed to be the greatest and most superior. That does not mean everyone considered them that way. Infact, some were not even treated well in the past because of ego, due to the better wealth position of non-brahmins.

    And who are the brahmins that are supressing ‘dalits’? Its always been the non-brahmin power-hungry ones that indulged in deprivation of resources to ‘dalits’.

    Are Yadavs, Thevars and Nadars ill-treating ‘dalits’ because of hindu dharma? No. They are only exploting poor people for their own benefit. Where did hindu dharma come in between here.

    The problem is with poverty. Instead of wasting your time and energy in fighting against rubbish like religion and caste, you can do much better in life by concentrating on developing vocational skills, education skills, and so on. Its pointless to keep blaming brahmins or hindu religion or any such inane unconnected stuff.

  22. kumarpushp said

    Dear happyhindu,Dalits are not against the hindu dharma but are against the explotation in name of hindu dharma.At the village level he is being exploted by hindu pujari and the city level he is being exploted by hindu intellectuals. RSS<VHP<BAJRANG DAL and BJP are using dalits as a foot soldiers against muslims who are dalits own blood brothers . what happened after riots dalits and muslims are put behind the bar and they ruined their lives for nothing.RSS should give them Pens and notes book insted of Trishul.Dalits are not hindu ,they made hindus by Adishankra charya.

  23. happyhind said

    Kumarpaush,

    Which idiot told you that RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal and BJP are “using dalits” as foot soilders?

    If someone wants to join some organization, what can anyone do about it? Can you stop them?

    Who said they are against muslims and ‘blood brothers’?

    Do not forget that gujrat riots happened because muslims first burnt a train full of hindu piligrims.

    The malegoan incident is probably linked to a few people who obviosly sought revenge for muslim attacks or bomb blasts on temples in varanasi and akshardham.

    Each time, there is an attack on hindus, its apparent the hindus are retaliating. And not keeping quite anymore. Yes, it is worrisome to see the rise of hindu extremism, since violence can never be stopped with violence.

    So what is the solution?

    Can you ask muslims not to consider Pakistan as their Pak Mata? Can you ask muslims to be united and raise their voice against Pakistan-sponsored terrorism? Can you ask muslims to join hands with hindu brothers to ensure such things never happen again? Please do that first.

    And nope even if you say “dalits” are not hindus, unfortunately for you, their practices are considered very hindu. There is no point is claiming Ram of Kabir is different from Ram of Ramayan and spewing cooked up stories and lies on various hindu gods.

    All this idea of seeking seperate electorate leads to where? If it leads to good governance, sure bingo that’s the way to go. But if not, then what? And already i think there are declared contituencies from where only an Sc / St can stand for elections – so there is a seperate electorate already.

    The point is, when people are seeking to integrate into mainstream society themselves, politicians like Chumber have no right to propagate divisiveness and seek seperateness.

  24. Vikram said

    Happyhindu, you dont get the point. You yourself said that Dalits should get educated, acquire skills and so on. The thing is that in today’s India the state (and the private sector) disproportionately provide the ability to gain such skills to upper caste Hindus. Dalits are in a worse educational/economic situation than upper castes. This is a fact confirmed by stats and anecdotal accounts. And to remedy this bias, Dalits need to assert their identity, inform other Dalits and mobilize politically.

    This does not mean they hate upper caste Hindus or anything. They want their fair share of the nation’s resources for which they have to agitate and mobilize.

    You cannot deny the injustice done to the Dalits by potraying their agitation as anti-Indian. This is baseless, because the Dalits have in fact more to lose if the Indian state collapses than any other group. Dont forget this state was created by their hero Dr. Ambedkar.

  25. happyhind said

    Vikram,

    This is actually a year long plus conversation. Perhaps you have read only a few posts and are thinking that way.

    I have no intension of portraying anything in any particular way. If you were to talk to a guy like Chumber, then you would know where the prob lies.

    Yes ofcourse dalits are in the worst state. That’s exactly what am saying. Because there are people who will not even let governement given benefits reach them.

    Why cannot young guys like you take up the lead to mobilize them, guide them and keep them away from political manipulators who just use them for votes but really do nothing for them?

  26. C.L.CHUMBER said

    Dear Vikram ji ,
    I am very much happy to read your rational and revolutionary views .I have to pledge my home for my children`s higher study and you will be happy to know that one of them paid the loan within five years .The others two are also on decent jobs and strugling to clear the debts .They are supporting their youngest brother in hr. study .This is a family team work .

    The governments planned some schemes for the poor but the Indo Aryan Vaidik Hindu employees crate hurdels

  27. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE SEPARATE ELECTORATE MEANS THAT THE SCs VOTERS ONLY WILL ELECT THEIRS MLAs / MPs WHO ALSO BELONG TO THE SCs CATEGORIES .THESE ELECTED MLAs/ MPs WILL HAVE TO SINCERE TOWARDS THEIRS COMMUNITIES . THIS SYSTEM IS ADOPTED IN THE ELECTION OF THE SHAROMANI GURDWARA PARBANDHAK COMMITTEE , AMRITSAR .THE SIKH VOTERS ELECT THE SIKH CANDIDATES .
    happyhind said,

    January 6, 2009 @ 6:16 am
    All this idea of seeking separate electorate leads to where? If it leads to good governance, sure bingo that’s the way to go. But if not, then what? And already i think there are declared constituencies from where only an Sc / St can stand for elections – so there is a separate electorate already.

  28. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE SCs , OBCs WERE NEVER HINDUS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF CENSUS OPERATIONS IN INDIA !
    ON THE ADVENT OF FIRST CENSUS IN 1881 AD ,SWAMI DAYA NAND WROTE A DISCIPLE TO RECORD CASTE AS BRAHMIN , KASHATTARIYA AND VAISH WHICHEVER MIGHT BE AND RELIGION ARYA DHARAM .HE EXCLUDED SHUDRAS .THIS IS RECORDED IN THE ARYA SAMAJ KA ITIHAAS IN 8 VOLS. IN HINDI .
    THE REAL ISSUE IN ROUND TABLE CONFERENCES ( 1930 – 1932 ) WAS WHETHER UNTOUCHABLES WERE HINDUS OR NOT .DR. AMBEDKAR AND RAO BAHADUR SRINIVASIN TWO REPRESENTATIVES OF UNTOUCHABLES SUCCEEDED TO CONVINCE THAT UNTOUCHABLES ARE NOT HINDUS .THIS WAS ACCEPTED BY THE GOVERNMENT IN THE COMMUNAL AWARD DECLARED ON 18TH AUGUST , 1932 AGAINST WHICH MR. GANDHI FASTED UNTO DEATH IN POONA WHICH RESULTED IN POONA PACT ON 24TH SEPTEMBER , 1932 .LATER ON , DR. AMBEDKAR DENOUNCED THE POONA PACT IN HIS BOOK ” WHAT CONGRESS AND GANDHI HAVE DONE TO THE UNTOUCHABLES “.

    NOT ONLY KABIR`S RAM ,EVERY NIRGUN SAINT INCLUDING SIKH GURUS DISCARDED THE KING RAMA . THEY PREACHED UNBORN AND OMNIPRESENT RAM .PLEASE READ GURU GRANTH SAHEB .
    PLEASE READ YOUR HINDU SCRIPTURES AND YOU WILL FIND THE MISDEEDS OF YOUR REVERED GODS !!!!! THESE ARE NOT STORIES . THESE ARE FACTS BASED ON YOUR OWN SCRIPTURES .YOU SHOULD FEEL SHAME .

    happyhind said,

    January 6, 2009 @ 6:16 am
    And nope even if you say “dalits” are not hindus, unfortunately for you, their practices are considered very hindu. There is no point is claiming Ram of Kabir is different from Ram of Ramayan and spewing cooked up stories and lies on various hindu gods.

  29. happyhind said

    Barking dogs never bite. Keep barking.

    Goodbye.

  30. hh said

    THE SEPARATE ELECTORATE MEANS THAT THE SCs VOTERS ONLY WILL ELECT THEIRS MLAs / MPs WHO ALSO BELONG TO THE SCs CATEGORIES .THESE ELECTED MLAs/ MPs WILL HAVE TO SINCERE TOWARDS THEIRS COMMUNITIES . THIS SYSTEM IS ADOPTED IN THE ELECTION OF THE SHAROMANI GURDWARA PARBANDHAK COMMITTEE , AMRITSAR .THE SIKH VOTERS ELECT THE SIKH CANDIDATES .
    ———

    That’s what they are doing now. Voting only for caste. That is why everyone is stuck.

  31. C.L.CHUMBER said

    BHAI NE BHAI PACCHATA !
    ( A BROTHER RECOGNIZED HIS BROTHER ! ).
    GOODBYE FOR EVER OR TEMPORARY ?

    happyhind said,

    January 8, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

    Barking dogs never bite. Keep barking.

    Goodbye.

  32. KUMARPUSH said

    Dear HH,seprate electorate means dalits are voting for dalits only.every constituency dalits constitute about 20% and remaining are hindus,suppose five dalit candidates are from that segment means dalit votes get devided and hindu votes become imortant for dalit candidates so only hindu bummlicker candidate wins .so no point of joint electorate..

  33. hh said

    BHAI NE BHAI PACCHATA !
    ( A BROTHER RECOGNIZED HIS BROTHER ! ).
    GOODBYE FOR EVER OR TEMPORARY ?
    ——————-

    Yep Sure Chumber you are an idiot that has brought me down to your level and beaten me at it.

    Am still here coz you mentioned you filed a case. Or did you lie about that also. Am wondering what is the “people’s parliament” where anyone ever files cases.

  34. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com must blacklist the abusers otherwise I will conclude that the administrators are also part and parcel of this defaming and blaming game .

  35. happyh said

    Chumber,

    Just give me the details of the case you have filed. Do not think you can get away after telling so many lies, throwing your weight around, expecting apologies from others but behaving like a depraved evil incarnate yourself. You have to apologize for all the lies you have spread about hindu gods and hinduism.

  36. C.L.CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ YOUR WRITINGS IN THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com .
    Your good self apologized about 5 times for your worst abusing habit .
    Is it not true ?
    In a few days you will again apologize for your good self`s abusive and blaming Vaidik language !

    happyh said
    January 13, 2009 @ 11:38 am

    Chumber,

    Just give me the details of the case you have filed. Do not think you can get away after telling so many lies, throwing your weight around, expecting apologies from others but behaving like a depraved evil incarnate yourself. You have to apologize for all the lies you have spread about hindu gods and hinduism.

  37. happyhind said

    Chumber,

    Madmen do not need apologies. Stop expecting apologies. You need to be dragged to court to be locked up in a mental asylum. It is good that you have filed a case – that is what we wanted. Just provide the details of the case.

  38. hh said

    Chumber,

    Stop expecting apologies.

    No one cares about you and your politician image but yourself.

    It is good you filed a case – that is what was needed – there is no prob in proving you as mad.

    So, just provide details of the case. Provide the verses from hindu scriptures that endorse rape. Or, apologize to all hindus. Accept that you have lied.

  39. C.L.CHUMBER said

    DEAR HAPPY HINDU !
    I AM NOT TELLING ANY LIE .
    I WILL GIVE THE DETAILS OF MY CASE FILED IN THE PEOPLE`S PARLIAMENT , WHEN YOU REPLY —
    ” YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR LEGAL FIGHT .
    I WROTE THAT THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERED JUDGMENT ” IF ANY ONE CALL ANOTHER PERSON IDIOT , HE/SHE WILL BE PUT BEHIND BARS .” YOU INTENTIONALLY ABOUT THREE DOZEN TIMES IDIOT TO ME .DO YOU HAVE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ? ”
    YOU PLEASE READ THE 4 VEDAS , 18 PURANAS , RAMAYNA , MAHABHARTA AND WILL FIND THE CHARACTERS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS .
    I HAD NOT HURTED SENTIMENTS OF THE HINDUS. I HAD EXPOSED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS WHO MADE OUR PEOPLE`S LIVES HELL . YOU PEOPLE SHOULD APPOLOGIZE FOR THIS FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
    I WILL CONTINUE MY TASK TO EXPOSE THE EVIL GODS AND GODDESSES SO MY COUNTRY MEN MAY BE MENTALLY FREE FROM THE EVIL GODS !!!!!

    happyh said
    January 13, 2009 @ 11:38 am

    Chumber,

    Just give me the details of the case you have filed. Do not think you can get away after telling so many lies, throwing your weight around, expecting apologies from others but behaving like a depraved evil incarnate yourself. You have to apologize for all the lies you have spread about hindu gods and hinduism.

  40. happyhind said

    Just seal your lips and give details of the case. Rest will be decided in court.

  41. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MMK Rao said
    January 27, 2009 @ 9:03 am

    ‘Dalits’ is a creation of the politicians and pseudo social reformers like Karunanidhi, Ambedkar, etc who actually did nothing for those sections of people who refused to come into the mainstream perhaps due to an inferiority complex.
    ANSWER : THE DALITS WHO ARE EX-UNTOUCHABLES ARE THE CREATION OF THE GODS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS .

    DR. AMBEDKAR WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION UNDER WHICH WE ARE RULED .THIS CONSTITUTION SANCTIONED EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO ALL INDIAN CITIZENS INCLUDING THE DALITS / SCs !
    IF DR. AMBEDKAR DID ” NOTHING ” FOR DALITS , THEN NOTHING MEANS ” EVERYTHING ” FOR THE DALITS !!!!!
    WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MAINSTREAM ?
    DO YOU MEAN THE MANUWADI STREAM ?
    NOW THE ” INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL STREAM ” IS THE THE LEGITIMATE MAINSTREAM !!!!!
    THE DALITS HAVE NO INFERIORITY COMPLEX ! YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT JOINING THE ” INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL MAINSTREAM ” DUE TO THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX AND MANUWADI EGO !!!!!
    IS NOT TRUE ? ? ? ? ? ?
    ( 2 ) At any rate, now laws have been made by the politicians which DO entitle them to several opportunities for growth. Hence, those who call themselves Dalits or are called so b y politicians must get over the psychology and look to those great Dalits who have grown up on the materialistic plane using the opportunities given to them.
    ANSWER : THERE ARE TWO LAWS IN PRACTICE STILL IN INDIA . IN A SOCIETY TO SOME EXTENT ESPECIALLY IN ILLITERATES AND DEPENDENTS ON THE MANUWADIS , THE MANUWADI LAW IS IN PRACTICE .IN THE GOVERNMENT ADMINISTRATION THE INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW IS IN PRACTICE . THE MANUWADI LAW IS AGAINST DEADLY AGAINST THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS ( SCs/STs/OBCs AND MINORITIES CONVERTED FROM THESE CASTES ) AND THE INDIAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW IS PRO INDIAN CITIZENS INCLUDING THE DALITS . THAT IS WHY THE DALITS PREFERS TO THE VAIDIK HINDUS .
    ( 3 ) By the way, apart from the so called Dalit sections, there are vast sections of other poor and socially neglected people in India, who do NOT have such legal encouragements.
    ANSWER : THEN WE SHOULD DO SOME WORK . DON`T DO LIPS` SERVICE .
    ( 4 ) The best way forward for Dalits as well as the other poor sections is to ignore politicians and those who claim to champion their causes. These unfortunate people should then be able to see things in clear perspective.
    ANSWER : WHY DO WE IGNORE THE POLITICIANS IN A DEMOCRATIC WORLD ?
    THE POLITICIANS BECOME THE LEGISLATIVE WING OF THE GOVERNMENT AFTER BEING ELECTED AS MPs ( LOK SABHA / RAJYA SABHA ) AT CENTRE AND M.L.AS / M.L.Cs AT STATE LEVEL .
    BY IGNORING THE LEGISLATURE , HOW CAN WE SEE THINGS IN A BETTER AND CLEAR PERSPECTIVE .
    ACTUALLY , THE MANUWADIS HAVE COMPLETE HOLD ON THE EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIARY WINGS OF THE GOVERNMENTS AND THEY ARE LOOSING HOLD ON THE LEGISLATURE VERY FAST AND SURELY .THAT IS WHY THEY ARE FORMING THE ” ABHINAV BHARAT ” AND THE RAM SENA IN FRUSTRATION !!!!!
    THUS MR.MMK RAO HAS NO LOGIC IN HIS VIEWS !!!!!
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/it-industry-is-on-the-downslide/

  42. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I CONTINUED , ” WHAT IS WRONG IN THIS TITLE ? WE HAD SHOWN IN THIS CARTOON TYPE TITLE THAT THE HINDUS ARE TRYING THEIR BEST WITH OLD TYPE WEAPONS .BUT THE SIKHS HAVE SUPERIORS . ”

    ONE DAY MR. GUPTA , INCHARGE OF IB OF OUR DISTRICT WITH HIS JUNIOR S. SAROA VISITED AT MY HOME IN 1988 AD . I WAS VERY BUSY IN MY JOURNALISTIC WORK AT MY HOME SURROUNDED BY MY WELL EQUIPPED LIBRARY .
    HE INTRODUCED HIMSELF AND HIS COLLEAGUE . I WELCOMED BOTH .MY WIFE WHO DID NOT DO THE GOVERNMENT JOB AT THAT TIME SERVED TEA . THEY WERE VERY MUCH IMPRESSED BY OUR DEALING AND LIBRARY.
    WE SAT LIKE FRIENDS .I TOLD MR. GUPTA THAT I HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH ANY ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL AND VIOLENT MOVEMENT/ PERSON . I HAVE MY LEGITIMATE INCOME SOURCES . BEING A VIGILANT EDITOR I DARED TO PUBLISH THE SPECIAL ISSUE ON THE PUNJAB PROBLEM . I SAID ,” I WENT TO A PHOTOGRAPHER MR. PIARE LAL , CINE STUDIO FOR PHOTOS OF S. BHINDRAWALE OR HIS LIEUTENANTS TO PUBLISH IN OUR MAGAZINE IN THE PROPOSED SPECIAL ISSUE . HE IS A HINDU AND VERY GENTLE PERSON . INSTEAD OF PHOTO , HE HANDED OVER A PAMPHLET IN PUNJABI RELEASED BY S. KAHLON , PRESIDENT , THE SIKH STUDENTS FEDERATION .IT WAS PRINTED BY A PRINTING PRESS AT AMRITSAR OF WHICH NAME AND ADDRESS I PUBLISHED WITH THIS PAMPHLET IN MY MAGAZINE . THE HEADING OF THIS PAMPHLET WAS ‘ BRAHMIN BANIEY LAHO ATE SIKHI ,PUNJAB , DESH BACHAAO – LET THE BRAHMIN AND BANIA COMMUNITIES LET DOWN AND SAVE THE SIKHISM , PUNJAB AND COUNTRY .’ I PUBLISHED
    THAT PAMPHLET WITH MY COMMENTS THAT WE ARE REPUBLISHING THIS PAMPHLET SO THAT OUR READERS MAY STUDY THE PUNJAB PROBLEM DEEPLY .” THEY LISTENED ME PATIENTLY .
    I OBJECTED THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT BOOKED ME FOR REPRODUCING THIS PAMPHLET BUT YOU DID NOT TAKE SAME ACTION AGAINST THE PRINTER , PUBLISHER AND WRITER OF THE PAMPHLET . WHY ?
    I CONTINUED , ” YOU ALSO BANNED OUR TITLE PAGE ! ” OUR ARTIST WORKED HARD TO VISUALIZE MY IDEA . THERE WAS A BIG ” SHIV LINGA ” ON WHICH THE HINDUS WERE CLIMBED UP WITH ‘ TRISHULS ‘ . THE SIKH YOUTHS WITH RIFLES AND OTHER SOPHISTICATED WEAPONS WERE AIMING AT THEM .
    I CONTINUED , ” WHAT IS WRONG IN THIS TITLE ? WE HAD SHOWN IN THIS CARTOON TYPE TITLE THAT THE HINDUS ARE TRYING THEIR BEST WITH OLD TYPE WEAPONS .BUT THE SIKHS HAVE SUPERIORS . ”
    THEY WERE VERY MUCH IMPRESSED BY MY LOGIC .THEN I SAID , ” IF YOU OBJECT ABOUT ‘ SHIV LINGA ‘ , I HAVE PURCHASED THE SHIV PURAN FOR REFERENCES IN THE COURT . IF YOU OBJECT IN THE COURT , I WILL SHOW THE PROOFS THAT THESE HINDU MEN STILL HUMILIATE THEIR WIVES BY BEFORE HONEY MOON COMPELLING THEM TO TOUCH THEIR VIRGINA WITH THE SHIV LINGA ! ” THEY BOTH LAUGHED LOUDLY !
    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! THEN I CAME TO MY REAL INTELLECTUAL SENSE ! I SAID TO MR. GUPTA THAT ACCORDING TO MANUSIMRITI EVERY BRAHMIN HAVE WRITE TO MARRY A BRAHMIN LADY AS WELL RAPE WITH OTHER NON-BRAHMIN LADIES .THEN EVERY KSHATRIYA MAN CAN MARRY A KSHATRIYA LADY AS WELL AS RAPE WITH OTHER LADIES EXEPT BRAHMIN LADIES . I SAID TO MR. GUPTA WITH ANGER ,” YOU MANUWADI PEOPLE HAD RIGHT TO RAPE WITH OUR LADIES NOT BRAHMIN AND KSHATRIYA LADIES BUT THE MEN OF THESE CATEGORIES RAPE WITH YOUR LADIES .( REF. C.L .CHUMBER said ,January 28, 2009 @ 1:28 pm https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/aishwarya-rai-a-victim-of-brahmin-conspiracy/#comment-4714 ) .
    ” A SELF RESPECT PERSON BEHEADS THE RAPISTS OR PUT HIM BEHIND THE BARS AND DYNAMITE THIS FILTHY SYSTEM ! BUT YOU ( BANIAS ) ARE RUNNING AFTER MONEY ! OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT TO DYNAMITE THIS FILTHY SYSTEM AND THEY SUCCEEDED TO NULLIFY THE MANUSIMRITY . WE ARE RUNNING ON THEIR FOOT PRINTS . WE ARE READY FOR LEGAL AS WELL PUBLIC OPINION WAR ! ” HE WAS STUNNED TO KNOW ALL THESE .
    THEN THERE WAS A MEETING OF BSP WHICH PASSED RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE GOVERNMENT UNDER PRESSURE OF MANUWADIS WHO WERE ANNOYED OVER OUR SPECIAL ISSUE ON KING RAMA .I HANDED OVER THIS ISSUE TO MR. GUPTA . HE IS VERY NICE , RATIONAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL NATURE !
    NEXT I WILL WRITE THE DEVELOPMENTS AT THE PUNJAB SECRETARIAT , CHANDIGARH REGARDING BANNING OUR SPECIAL ISSUE !
    AND TRANSLATE THE PAMPHLETS SO THAT READERS OF DALITNATION.WORDPRESS MAY KNOW THE REALTY .

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    February 3, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    THIS IS IN SHORT . I WILL WRITE IN DETAIL MORE WHICH IS A VERY INTERESTING STORY HOW WE DEFEATED THE MANUWADIS / GOVERNMENT.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/a-letter-to-narendra-modi/#comment-4711

  43. hh said

    Chumber,

    You are a cheapskate liar and a lunatic who cooks up all sorts of stories to make a living.

    You will be charged under various sections, as well as TADA, and sent to a mental asylum.

    You know very well you are a liar. That is why you do not dare to give your case file number. Coward.

  44. C. l . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    YOU CAN ASK FROM THE HOME MINISTRY , PUNJAB GOVERNMENT !
    I HAVE NO RECORD .

  45. hh said

    Funny Chumber, how come you did not keep any record?

    You consider yourself so great, but you are scared to face a motley group of have-nothings…you yourself know what a mad liar you are.. Shame on you. Bloody exploiter.

  46. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU IS WASTING TIME OF ALL !

    kumarpushp said
    February 11, 2009 @ 11:42 pm

    my address is with dalit voice ,we are the dalit voice parivar who are fighting war with hindus and their hindu led government.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-private-sector/#comment-4865

  47. C.L.CHUMBER said

    YES .I HAVE NO RECORD OF THAT , BECAUSE I DAM CARED FOR THAT CASE !

    IT WAS JUST TO DEMORELIZE ME BY THE MANUWADIS THROUGH GOVT !!
    ON 7TH APRIL , 1987 , SAHIB KANSHI RAM SAID IN A PUNJAB STATE RALLY AT THE PRADE GROUND , CHANDIGARH IN REACTION TO THE HARIDWAR BY ELECTION BOOTH CAPTURING WHERE Ms MAYAWATI STOOD RUNNER UP,” WE WILL COUNTER THE STATE TERRORISM WITH TERRORISM .THERE IS NO BIGGER TERRORIST THAN US ! ”
    I PUBLISHED THE APRIL , 1987 ISSUE OF OUR MAGAZINE IN ENGLISH ,HINDI AND PUNJABI TO HIGHLIGHT HIS VIEWS TO WEAKEN THE ANTI-DEMOCRACY FORCES ! I PUBLISHED THE PHOTOS OF SANT BHINDRAWALE AND SAHIB KANSHI RAM WITH AN ARTICLE ‘ KANSHI RAM BHINDRAWALE BANANE PAR MAZBOOR – KANSHI RAM COMPELLED TO BE BHINDRAWALE ‘ IN HINDI SECTION AND RELEASED AN ADVERTIZEMENT IN A WIDE CIRCULATED PUNJABI DAILY ‘THE JAG BANI ‘ . OUR MAGAZIN WAS THE FIRST EVER WITH FOUR COLOURS TITLE COVER AND SOLD ON THE BOOK STALLS .THE BOTH CIRCLES OF BHINDRAWALE AND KANSHI RAM PURCHASED WITH CURIOSITY AND I WAS ASTONISHED TO READ THE NEWS PAPERS THAT PROMINENT SIKH ORGANIZATIONS CONDEMNED THE BOOTH CAPTURING AND COMMITTED TO BE WITH SAHIB KANSHI RAM WHICH RESULTED IN PRODUCING FIRST M.P. MR.HARBHAJAN LAKHA FROM PHILLARE ( R ) , 9 MLAs IN PUNJAB ASSEMBLY ELECTION 1992 AND THE BSP -SAD ( BADAL ) ALLIANCE WON 11 OUT OF 13 SEATS IN 1996 LOK SABHA ELECTION ! SAHIB KANSHI RAM WON FROM HOSHIAR PUR ( GENERAL ) SEAT AND TWO OTHERS FROM PHILLAURE ( R ) AND FEROZEPUR ( GENERAL ) !
    I TAKE THE REVENGE FROM THE RIVALS TO DESTABILIZE THEM POLITICALLY !
    THIS TADA CASE ON ME HAVE BEEN / WILL BE RECORDED IN THE HISTORY HOW THE ANTI-CONSTITUTION FORCES MISUSED THE GOVERNMENT MACHINERY !

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT YOUR GODS AND KALI MATA
    ARE BLOODY WHO ARE RACISTS AND FASCISTS AND YOU ARE THE Bloody exploiter OF THESE EVIL GODS .THEREFORE you yourself know what a mad liar you are.. Shame on you. Bloody exploiter.!!!!!

    hh said
    February 14, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

    Funny Chumber, how come you did not keep any record?

    You consider yourself so great, but you are scared to face a motley group of have-nothings…you yourself know what a mad liar you are.. Shame on you. Bloody exploiter.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/not-white-tiger-but-the-black-panther-of-dalits-for-india/#comment-4917

  48. hh said

    Chumber,

    1) You do not want to give your TADA case file number.

    2) You do not want to give personal proof of identity.

    3) You remain stuck with dumb Balley’s or some streetside writer’s books. If anyone asks you anything from original scriptures, you do not answer it.

    4) You guys are loaded with a cartload of filthy lies and in that you are supported by the missionary mafia.

    5) You have the backing of goondas of people like VT Rajshekhar. You will do goondaism in the streets but you will not come to court.

    6) You live in India but support Pakistan, the British and China in everything. VT Rajshekhar supports and is supported by Iran.

    7) Everyone considers you a madman barking for VT Rajshekhar. Even police did not waste time arresting you for your lunacy that is far too apparent.

    It is obvious you are looking for an election platform where there is none. So you can keep barking for all you wish, it changes nothing for those who wanna stay hindu and need a brahmin.

    Goodbye.

  49. babu ram rao said

    i have a feeling this site is controlled by anti-national people who want to divide us Indians on the basis of caste.
    jai babasaheb ambedkar!
    jai mahatma gandhi!
    jai united SECULAR india!

  50. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THE CONGRESS ,BJP AND CPM HAVE JOINED HANDS SETTING ASIDE IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES TO UNITEDLY FIGHT CHIEF MINISTER MR. PAWAN KUMAR CHAMLING AND HIS PARTY SIKKIM DEMOCRATIC FRONT IN THE ASSEMBLY POLLS DUE IN THE LAST OF THIS YEAR !

    hh said
    February 18, 2009 @ 8:36 am

    Chumber,

    1) You do not want to give your TADA case file number.

    * MR. HAPPY HINDU !YOU CAN ASK FROM THE HOME MINISTRY , PUNJAB GOVERNMENT .I HAVE NO RECORD . I JUST READ THE NEWS IN THE LOCAL NEWS PAPERS !! ”
    2) You do not want to give personal proof of identity.

    *MR. HAPPY HINDU !HAVE YOU ANY COMMON SENSE ? YOU ARE WASTING TIME ON MY IDENTITY .YOU CLAIMED TO KNOW MY ADDRESS , EMAIL ADDRESS MANY TIMES , THEN WHY ARE YOU WASTING THE PRECIOUS TIME OF OUR ESTEEMED VIEWERS ? ”

    **C . L . CHUMBER said ( February 17, 2009 @ 9:46 am ), ” IF YOU WILL SHOW YOUR IDENTITY IN THE COURT,I WILL ALSO DO THE SAME !”

    3) You remain stuck with dumb Balley’s or some streetside writer’s books. If anyone asks you anything from original scriptures, you do not answer it.

    * YOU PLEASE READ THE 4 VEDAS , 18 PURANAS , RAMAYNA , MAHABHARTA AND WILL FIND THE CHARACTERS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS .

    4) You guys are loaded with a cartload of filthy lies and in that you are supported by the missionary mafia.

    * HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF SOME ONE SPEAK / WRITE THAT YOU RAPED YOUR MOTHER / SISTER / DAUGHTER !!!!!- -YOU HURTED MY SENTIMENTS AND DIGNITY DAILY PERSONALLY ! YOU ARE THE REAL MANUWADI TERRORIST WHO DEFEND THE RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL GODS .”

    5) You have the backing of goondas of people like VT Rajshekhar. You will do goondaism in the streets but you will not come to court.

    * WE INCLUDING MR. V. T. RAJSHEKAR ARE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF THE INDIAN SOCIAL RESURGENT MOVEMENT !”

    ** YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR LEGAL FIGHT .I WROTE THAT THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERED JUDGMENT ” IF ANY ONE CALL ANOTHER PERSON IDIOT , HE/SHE WILL BE PUT BEHIND BARS .” YOU INTENTIONALLY ABOUT THREE DOZEN TIMES IDIOT TO ME .DO YOU HAVE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ? ”

    *** C.L.CHUMBER said ( January 28, 2009 @ 12:46 pm),”NO LAW CAN JAIL ME BECAUSE I AM PRO-CONSTITUTION ! I HAVE WAGED A WAR AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM WHICH HAD BEEN BANNED BY OUR LEGAL SYSTEM .
    I CHALLENGE YOU TO COME IN COURT AND I WILL PROVE ON THE BASIS OF YOUR OWN SCRIPTURES THAT YOUR GODS ARE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!

    6) You live in India but support Pakistan, the British and China in everything. VT Rajshekhar supports and is supported by Iran.

    WE INCLUDING MR. V. T. RAJSHEKAR ARE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF THE INDIAN SOCIAL RESURGENT MOVEMENT !”

    (7) Everyone considers you a madman barking for VT Rajshekhar. Even police did not waste time arresting you for your lunacy that is far too apparent.

    * Mr. V.T.Rajshekar is a geniuse and daring writer .I am proud to be clubbed with him .He is like my father in age .If police did not waste time in arresting me then why you are wasting your precious time !!!!!

    ( 8 ) It is obvious you are looking for an election platform where there is none.

    * THE CONGRESS ,BJP AND CPM HAVE JOINED HANDS SETTING ASIDE IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES TO UNITEDLY FIGHT CHIEF MINISTER MR. PAWAN KUMAR CHAMLING AND HIS PARTY SIKKIM DEMOCRATIC FRONT IN THE ASSEMBLY POLLS DUE IN THE LAST OF THIS YEAR !
    OUR COMMENTS : SHAHID-E-AZAM SAHIB KANSHI RAM ON 7TH APRIL , 1987 IN A BSP STATE RALLY SAID THAT AS WE UNITED , OUR OPPOSITION PARTIES WOULD ALSO UNITE ! NOW , BJP AND CONGRESS PARTIES CAN NOT RULE WITHOUT THE CRUTCHES OF ALLIANCES TO STOP THE BAHUJAN SAMAJ POLITICALLY .)
    ( 9 ) So you can keep barking for all you wish, it changes nothing for those who wanna stay hindu and need a brahmin.

    * I will continue bark on the rapist , racist and fascist evil Gods as well as theirs evil followers as a faithful Dog of the ethical values !!!!!
    ( 10 ) Goodbye

    * I do not accept ‘ Goodbye ‘ of the bad boy !!!!!

  51. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. BABU RAM RAO !
    ( 1 ) WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?
    ( 2 ) WHO IS THE CRITERIA OF NATIONAL AND ANTI-NATIONAL ?
    ( 3 ) HOW DO YOU CLAIM TO BE A NATIONAL ?
    ( 4 ) PLEASE SAY ‘ JAI BHIM ‘ WHICH IS RECOGNIZED .
    ( 5 ) PLEASE SAY ‘ JAI HIND ‘ WHICH IS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY !
    ( 6 ) WHAT IS CRITERIA OF UNITY AND SECULARISM OF INDIA ?
    I THINK MR. BABU RAM RAO WISHED FOLLOWING TYPE OF UNETHICAL ‘ jai united SECULAR india ! ‘ –

    THE CONGRESS ,BJP AND CPM HAVE JOINED HANDS SETTING ASIDE IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES TO UNITEDLY FIGHT CHIEF MINISTER MR. PAWAN KUMAR CHAMLING AND HIS PARTY SIKKIM DEMOCRATIC FRONT IN THE ASSEMBLY POLLS DUE IN THE LAST OF THIS YEAR !
    OUR COMMENTS : SHAHID-E-AZAM SAHIB KANSHI RAM ON 7TH APRIL , 1987 IN A BSP STATE RALLY SAID THAT AS WE UNITED , OUR OPPOSITION PARTIES WOULD ALSO UNITE ! NOW , BJP AND CONGRESS PARTIES CAN NOT RULE WITHOUT THE CRUTCHES OF ALLIANCES TO STOP THE BAHUJAN SAMAJ POLITICALLY .”

    babu ram rao said
    February 18, 2009 @ 1:26 pm

    i have a feeling this site is controlled by anti-national people who want to divide us Indians on the basis of caste.
    jai babasaheb ambedkar!
    jai mahatma gandhi!
    jai united SECULAR india!

  52. hh said

    WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?
    ————–

    Chumber,

    You are mad alright but you also want to stay stuck with repeated statements.

    Already explained to you that brahmins are NOT the inventors of caste system. They are the PRODUCT of caste system. Different tribes had their own brahmins and all current day castes including brahmins came about by various admixtures at diff points in time b/w diverse tribes. And it is not easy to be a brahmin and commit so many things to memory by heart.

    You are alway maligning one community and hindu scriptures just because you want an election platform. Come to court and prove it. No matter what people like you do, nobody is going to stop being a hindu or needing a brahmin. You can keep shouting as much as you want.

  53. C . L .CHUMBER said

    I NEVER VANDALIZED THE HINDU SCRIPTURES .YOU CLAIMED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM AND I AM ALSO AGAINST THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ! THEN WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ? IS WORSHIPING THE EVILS AND EVIL GODS RELIGION ?

    h said
    February 27, 2009 @ 4:28 am
    Chumber, be warned.

    We are not asking you to be a hindu. You are free to choose any religion you want.
    MY ANSWER IS : SWAMI VIVEKANAND SAID ,” IT IS DIFFICULT TO DEFINE WHAT IS HINDUISM AND WHO IS HINDU ! ” INDIAN CONSTITUTION PERMITS EVERY CITIZEN FREEDOM OF RELIGION .

    ( 2 ) You have no right to threaten others not to follow hinduism.
    MY ANSWER IS : I NEVER THREATENED ANYBODY TO FOLLOW OR NOT TO FOLLOW SPECIFIC RELIGION !

    ( 3 ) You have no right to vandalize the hindu scriptures with your falsehood; and hurt religious sentiments.
    MY ANSWER IS : I NEVER VANDALIZED THE HINDU SCRIPTURES .YOU CLAIMED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM
    AND I AM ALSO AGAINST THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ! THEN WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ? IS WORSHIPING THE EVILS AND EVIL GODS RELIGION ?
    ( 4 ) You have no right to misuse and misguide the economically poor people with your falsehood.
    MY ANSWER IS : I NEVER MISGUIDED AND MISUSED ANY ONE ! WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE economically poor people ?
    ( 5 ) If you are capable of mugging up the vedas and living a brahmin’s life, good for you. There are people who tried and gave up. So, people like me need a brahmin. You have no right to tell us what we should do.
    MY ANSWER IS : I AM FOLLOWER OF THOSE GREAT MEN WHO ADVISED US TO DYNAMITE THE VEDAS BECAUSE IT HAD THE FIRST EVER EVIDENCE OF CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM ! AS AN HINDU CAN NOT FOLLOW THE QUARAN , I WILL NOT FOLLOW THE PATH OF ANTI-HUMANISM ! I NEVER TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO . I JUST WROTE THAT THE EVERY INDO ARYAN VEDIK GOD IS EITHER RAPIST OR RACIST OR FASCIST AND HENCE THEIRS FOLLOWERS ARE ALSO THE SAME !
    ( 6 ) If you people really wanted, you could have ensured there is not one person living in poverty in the country. But all you do is seek self-promotion and election platform based on caste, religion and such rubbish. Politicians are the biggest curse to the country.
    MY ANSWER IS : YES , ADVANI AND HIS PARTY LIKE POLITICIANS ARE ” the biggest curse to the country ” . They ” seek self-promotion and election platform based on caste, religion and such rubbish.” I am not a member of any political party nor I want to contest the election !
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/o-dalits-wake-up/#comment-5177

  54. hh said

    AS AN HINDU CAN NOT FOLLOW THE QUARAN , I WILL NOT FOLLOW THE PATH OF ANTI-HUMANISM !
    ———————-

    why cannot a hindu follow the quran?

    you are a retard lunatic who cannot understand any religion.

  55. C.L.CHUMBER said

    MR. PV NARSIMHA RAO FORMER PM WAS A PART AND PARCEL OF THE CONSPIRACY TO KILL MR. RAJIV GANDHI FORMER PM OF INDIA ? ? ? ? ? – ARJUN SINGH , UNION CABINET MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES , INDIA .

    Dear Viewers ,
    The https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/mandal-commission-rajiv-gandhi-and-the-manuwadi-conspiracy/ wrote that Mr.Rajiv Gandhi was killed by the Hindu fundamentalists with the connivance of the Zionist and LTTE as below : –

    * It was during this time that the shrewd Narasimha Rao, his criminal arms dealer guru Chandraswami and the prime minister Chandrashekar hatched the conspiracy to kill Rajiv Gandhi. The paln was to kill Rajiv so that the Congress can come to power through the sympathy wave.

    *Narasimha Rao contacted his Zionist allies in Israel. The Mossad was commisioned to kill Rajiv Gandhi. But clever are the ways in which the Zionists and Manuwadis work. They got hold of the Dravidian LTTEand fixed a deal with them in Geneva to kill Rajiv Gandhi. ”
    Now MR. ARJUN SINGH , UNION CABINET MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES , INDIA `S AUTOBIOGRAPHY PUBLISHED IN HINDI ( M/S RAJ KAMAL PARKASHAN , NEW DELHI ) AND IT REVIEWED IN THE HINDI MONTHLY ‘ OUTLOOK ‘ APRIL , 2009 ON PAGE 49 .
    THERE IS PRINTED IN THE OUTLOOK UNDER THE TITLE : ” RAO KNEW THE PLOT TO KILL RAJIV ” : – ” I WAS CONVINCED THAT RAO HAD NO INTEREST IN THIS SINCE BEGINNING .THERE WERE TALKINGS ON THE LIPS OF THE PEOPLE THAT MR. RAO KNEW SOME INFORMATIONS ABOUT THE PLOT TO KILL RAJIV GANDHI .IT MIGHT BE THAT MR. RAO HAD NO HAND IN THE PLANING TO KILL RAJIV BUT IT WAS DEFINITE THAT HE HAD SOME INFORMATIONS IN ADVANCE !!!!! ”
    THIS CONFIRMS THAT THE MANUWADIS ARE CRIMINALS AND ANTI-DEMOCRACY . THE WRITER / ADMINISTRATORS OF THE DALITNATION.WORDPRESS WROTE TRULY . WE APPRECIATE THEM .

  56. C . L . CHUMBER said

    YOU ARE NOT MANUWADI BIOLOGICALLY ,
    BUT YOU ARE STILL A TRUE MANUWADI MENTALLY !
    YOU HAVE NO MANNERS HOW TO PRESENT YOUR VIEWS WITHOUT ABUSING !

    hh said
    April 3, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

    Mr.Idiot,

    I am a product of inter-caste and inter-state marriage…And i am a hindu and i will always be one and i will always need a brahmin….you can keep barking as much as you want to…

  57. sundar reddy said

    I agree with the basic premise of this article. Adiga’s attempt to cast Capitalism as the savior is incorrect on so many fronts its laughable. As is evident in the current context of shattered Capitalist economies, the only glaring fact that stands out is that the ‘rich get richer and the poor get poorer’ , to state an old but consistent adage.

  58. sundar reddy said

    “WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?”

    Im guessing its the ancestors of the current crop of upper castes .. primarily brahmins and probably some of mine as well.

    Whats amazing is that we as a country claim to be so civilized and tolerant (and all those ‘happy’ words and phrases that make us feel content) and yet manage to alienate, dominate and oppress such a large section of our population.

  59. C . L . CHUMBER said

    BRAHMA BLOODY FOOL INVENTED AND BLOODY FOOL VISHANU AND HIS BLOODY FOOL INCARNATIONS IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?

    sundar reddy said
    April 10, 2009 @ 5:29 am

    “WHO BLOODY FOOL INVENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?”

  60. hh said

    Sundar Reddy,

    There are 2 breeds that alienate people.

    One is the politician creed like Chumber that banks on for caste based politics for votes.

    The other creed is the set of religious units that define other people’s caste.

    Both are a problem.

  61. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE IMPERIALIST INVADER ARYANS` LEADER BRAHMA WAS THE EVER FIRST AND LAST MALE WHO GAVE BIRTH FROM THE DIFFERENT BODY PARTS NOT FROM THE VIRGIN OF A WOMAN .WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHO INTERCOURSED WITH HIM TO PRODUCE THE CASTE SYSTEM BY BIRTH !!!!!

    hh said
    April 14, 2009 @ 10:03 am

    Sundar Reddy,

    There are 2 breeds that alienate people.

    One is the politician creed like Chumber that banks on for caste based politics for votes.
    MY ANSWER IS : IMPERIALIST INVADER ARYANS` LEADER BRAHMA WAS OF A RARE CREED WHICH GAVE BIRTH BRAHMINS FROM HIS FILTHY MIND / HEAD , KASHATTRIY FROM HIS SHOULDERS , VAISH FROM HIS THIGH AND SHUDRA FROM FEET .HE WAS THE EVER FIRST AND LAST MALE WHO GAVE BIRTH FROM THE DIFFERENT BODY PARTS NOT FROM VIRGIN OF A WOMAN .WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHO INTERCOURSED WITH HIM TO PRODUCE THE CASTE SYSTEM BY BIRTH !!!!!
    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! YOU SHOULD TELL US THE NAME OF THE CREED OF BRAHMA !!!!!
    I AM AGAINST THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM AS I WROTE EARLIER ( C . L . CHUMBER said ,April 13, 2009 @ 1:26 pm ) ,” BRAHMA BLOODY FOOL INVENTED AND BLOODY FOOL VISHANU AND HIS BLOODY FOOL INCARNATIONS IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM !”https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/not-white-tiger-but-the-black-panther-of-dalits-for-india/

    ( 2 ) The other creed is the set of religious units that define other people’s caste.Both are a problem.
    MY ANSWER IS : THE HINDUISM IS THE MOTHER OF THE CASTE / CREED / VARNA SYSTEM WHICH MUST BE BANNED CONSTITUTIONALLY AND ITS PREACHERS MUST BE PUT BEHIND BARS AS CRIMINALS !!!!!

  62. hh said

    BRAHMA BLOODY FOOL INVENTED AND BLOODY FOOL VISHANU AND HIS BLOODY FOOL INCARNATIONS IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?
    ———

    Chumber is the biggest bloody fool undoubtedly.

    Go and ask churches why they have seperate seating for dalits.

    Go and ask mosques why ashrafis treat ajlafis as beneath themselves.

    Go and ask the individuals who treat you badly based on caste. Do not judge commuities.

  63. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU ! YOU SHOULD APPRECIATE ME FOR ARISING THIS ISSUE !
    IF THIS INJUSTICE OF GRADATION AND DEGRADATION OMNIPRESENT IN INDIAN SOCIETY , THIS IS DUE TO INFECTION OF THE HINDUISM`S CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM WHICH WAS INVENTED BY BLOODY FOOL BRAHMA !!
    YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR HINDU SOCIETY !!!
    WHY DO NOT YOU JOIN US TO ANNIHILATE THE CASTE / VARNA ? ? ? ? ?

    WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME BLOODY FOOL ? ? ? ? ? IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUMANITARIAN , YOU SHOULD CALL ME ” RESPECTED SIR ” AND YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN , ” BRAHMA BLOODY FOOL INVENTED AND BLOODY FOOL VISHANU AND HIS BLOODY FOOL INCARNATIONS IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ! ”

    BUT YOU CAN NOT DO LIKE THIS AS YOU ARE A TRUE FOLLOWER OF THE BLOODY FOOLS BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS !!!!!

    hh said
    April 14, 2009 @ 5:13 pm

    BRAHMA BLOODY FOOL INVENTED AND BLOODY FOOL VISHANU AND HIS BLOODY FOOL INCARNATIONS IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM ?
    ———

    Chumber is the biggest bloody fool undoubtedly.

    Go and ask churches why they have seperate seating for dalits.

    Go and ask mosques why ashrafis treat ajlafis as beneath themselves.

    Go and ask the individuals who treat you badly based on caste. Do not judge commuities.

  64. hh said

    YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR HINDU SOCIETY !!!
    WHY DO NOT YOU JOIN US TO ANNIHILATE THE CASTE / VARNA ? ? ? ? ?
    ————–

    i already told you i do not want to join a rabid dog like you.

  65. kumarpushp said

    Dear Reddy,you go and eat shankracharya shits and drink cow urine,for your information dalits are not hindus and they donot give any shits to hindus and their hindu led government.Please stop abusing chumber.Chumber is human right worker who want to save the lives of dalits in India who are abused and killed in hindu India.

  66. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE HINDU SOCIETY NEVER LIKE THE REVOLUTIONARY CHANGES THAT IS WHY IT IS WORST EVER SOCIETY IN THE UNIVERSE !!!!!

    SATGURU KABIR PROCLAIMED THAT A DOG IS BETTER THAN A ( MANUWADI ) BRAHMIN !!!!!

    hh said
    April 24, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

    YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR HINDU SOCIETY !!!
    WHY DO NOT YOU JOIN US TO ANNIHILATE THE CASTE / VARNA ? ? ? ? ? -CHUMBER
    ————–

    i already told you i do not want to join a rabid dog like you.-HAPPY HINDU .

  67. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DEAR KUMARPUSHP JI ! THE DOGS ALWAYS BARK AT THE ELEPHANTS !!!!!

    I GUARANTEE YOU ALL IN THE UNIVERSE THAT IN A FEW YEARS M/S HAPPY HINDUS HAVE TO DISCARD THEIR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GUTTER GODS !!!!!

    THE PEOPLE WILL BE SO AWAKENED THAT THEY WILL BURN THREE EFFIGIES OF THE RAPEISM ,RACEISM AND FASCISM ON 26TH JANUARY THE REPUBLIC DAY OF INDIA ON WHICH DATE THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION OF INDEPENDENT INDIA WAS ENFORCED !!!!!

    kumarpushp said
    April 25, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
    Please stop abusing chumber.Chumber is human right worker who want to save the lives of dalits in India who are abused and killed in hindu India.

  68. Baba said

    Can someone tell me what are the achievement of Dr Amdekar other than copying the british constitution word for word and then calling it the Indian constitution??

    • kumarpushp said

      Dear Baba,you should be thankful for Dr Ambedkar who had given a marvelous constitution ,otherwise you hindus would have been killed each other like your fore father were doing in Past.go and drink cow urine , which is available from RSS shops.

  69. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DID YOU EVER SEEN AND READ THE CALLIGRAPHIC COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION PASSED BY THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY OF INDIA ON 26TH NOVEMBER , 1949 AND IMPLEMENTED ON 26TH JANUARY , 1950 ?

    FIRST OF ALL , YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE CONSTITUTION WAS DRAFTED BY THE DRAFTING COMMITTEE OF WHICH DR. AMBEDKAR WAS CHAIRMAN AND ITS EVERY ARTICLE WAS DISCUSSED IN THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY BEFORE PASSING BY VOTING OR CONSENTMENT OF THE MEMBERS .

    YOU EVEN DO NOT KNOW THE CORRECT SPELLINGS OF DR. AMBEDKAR AS YOU WROTE Dr Amdekar !!!!!

    DR. AMBEDKAR WAS HIGHLY QUALIFIED UNTOUCHABLE WHO WAS LATER ON MARRIED TO A DAUGHTER OF THE BRAHMINS !!!!!

    BABY BABA MAY ASK ANY INDIAN ABOUT DR. AMBEDKAR`S ACHIEVEMENTS !

  70. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MY ABOVE WRITING C . L . CHUMBER said ,May 12, 2009 @ 6:49 am IS IN RESPONSE TO :
    Baba said
    May 10, 2009 @ 4:47 am

    Can someone tell me what are the achievement of Dr Amdekar other than copying the british constitution word for word and then calling it the Indian constitution??

  71. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE US ENVOY , MR. PETER BURLEIGH MET BJP`S LEADER , MR. L.K. ADVANI AHEAD OF THE DECLARATION OF 15TH LOK SABHA RESULTS HAS TRIGGERED A CONTOVERSY WITH LEFT PARTIES .THE LEFT PARTIES CALLED IT ” BRAZEN INTERFERENCE ” IN INDIA`S INTERNAL AFFAIRS .

    THE LEFT PARTIES SUSPECT THAT THE USA IS WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CIVIL NUCLEAR DEAL AND OTHER ASPECTS OF STRATEGIC TIES .

    AS WE ALREADY WRITTEN THAT THE GLOBAL CAPITALISTS AND THE MANUWADIS OF INDIA ARE UNITED TO SAVE THEIR INTERESTS IN INDIA !!!!!

  72. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  73. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!

    The https://dalitnation.wordpress.com is allowing the readers to discuss the Indian mythology , history and culture with special context to the present conditions of Indian society but some miscreants create nuisance by abusing and abusing regularly to those who continue e-dialogue with patience .

    Let us do not mind these vaidik abusive bad boys of the M/s Happy Hindu Non-Sense Club who even attacked on the Dalit girls recently in this blog .They threat me to handle ! I am to say very very humbly that I will throw the Rapist , Racist and Fascist Gods and their FOLLOWERS in the gutter at the cost of my life !!!!! These evil FOLLOWERS want to continue to crush the FLOWERS which spread the scent of equality , fraternity , liberity and justice !!!!!

    WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!

    • hh said

      WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!

      The https://dalitnation.wordpress.com is allowing the readers to discuss the Indian mythology , history and culture with special context to the present conditions of Indian society but some miscreants create nuisance by abusing and abusing regularly to those who continue e-dialogue with patience .

      Let us do not mind these vaidik abusive bad boys of the M/s Happy Hindu Non-Sense Club who even attacked on the Dalit girls recently in this blog .They threat me to handle ! I am to say very very humbly that I will throw the Rapist , Racist and Fascist Gods and their FOLLOWERS in the gutter at the cost of my life !!!!! These evil FOLLOWERS want to continue to crush the FLOWERS which spread the scent of equality , fraternity , liberity and justice !!!!!

      WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ONE TO CHALLENGE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!!!
      ————–

      What is this stupidity Chumber. When did i challenge the constitution or attack dalit girls? In your lunacy, you are alleging crap.

      And who wants to crush equality? I am asking for meritocracy but you are asking for reservations. You are crushing equality.

      In the name of reservations, who is making money? Why do politicians own medical, engineering and various degree colleges? Why in the whole of India there are less than 100 seats for cardiology, nephrology, etc. Why are the number of seats not increased? The politicians wanted limited seats, limitied colleges, plus reservations, so that they can demand and make crores of money. It is you politicians that need to be thrown out.

      Who on earth are you to throw out anything. You cannot stop me from worshipping my gods or needing a brahmin.

      No system is perfect in this world. It takes all sides to open their hearts. Dalits are manipulated for their labour by everyone, including shudras. Only time, patience and education will slowly bring people around. There is no need to hate anyone or any system.

  74. C. L . CHUMBER said

    WILL YOU NOT HATE OR REGISTER FIR AGAINSTWHOM WHO RAPED A LADY IN YOUR FAMILY ? ? ? ? ?
    WILL YOU NOT HATE THE SYSTEM IN WHICH A SOCIETY WORSHIP THE RAPITS , RACISTS AND FASCITS ? ? ? ? ?

    hh said
    June 5, 2009 @ 2:25 am
    There is no need to hate anyone or any system.

  75. C. L . CHUMBER said

    THE INDIAN GOVT. CAN`T DO ANYTHING AGAINST CORRUPTION IN THE JUDICIARY – MR. MOILY , LAW MINISTER OF INDIAN REPUBLIC !!!!!

    THIS MEANS GOVT. CAN NOT GIVE JUSTICE TO THE INDIAN CITIZEN AND HENCE THE CASES OF BREACH OF OATHS TAKEN OF THE CONSTITUTION BY BOTH THE JUDICIARY AND LEGISLATURE IS ERRELEVANT !!!!!

    PLEASE READ THE INTERVIEW OF MR. MOILY PUBLISHED IN THE HINDUSTAN TIMES , DELHI DATED 6TH JUNE , 2009 ( HARD COPY ) AND THE FOLLOWING LINK :-
    Courtesy : http://epaper.hindustantimes.com//artMailDisp.aspx?article=06_06_2009_012_011&typ=1&pub=47

  76. C . L . CHUMBER said

    BEWARE OF THE RAPIST , RACEIST AND FASCIST GODS SPONSORED BY THE BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS !!!!!

    THEN YOU FOLLOW YOUR RAPIST BRAHMA AND TRY TO RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER AS BRAHMA DID !!!!! THEN ONLY YOU WILL BE A TRUE FOLLOWER OF YOUR GODS !!!!!
    IF YOU WANT TO WORSHIP VISHANU LIKE RAPIST WHO RAPED ADI-MATA VARINDA , YOU HAVE TO RAPE THE WIVES OF YOUR ENEMIES !!!!!
    PLEASE REMEMBER IF YOU FOLLOW BRAHMA AND VISHANU PRACTICALLY , THE POLICE WILL ARREST YOU TO PUT BEHIND THE BARS UNDER THE LAWS OF THE LAND !!!!!
    BEWARE OF THE RAPIST , RACEIST AND FASCIST GODS SPONSORED BY THE BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS !!!!!

    hh said
    June 5, 2009 @ 2:25 am
    You cannot stop me from worshipping my gods or needing a brahmin

    • hh said

      Brahma, Vishnu did not commit any rape.

      You beware of your stupidity and blown out lunacy.

  77. C . L . CHUMBER said

    A PERSON MR. HAPPY HINDU WHO WORSHIP THE BRAHMA LIKE DICTATOR WHO INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED ( HE WAS AN AUTOCRAT KING WHOSE CAPITAL WAS AT PUSHKAR IN RAJASTHAN STATE OF INDIA ) THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE SOCIO-ECONOMIC SYSTEM OF GRADATION AND DEGRADATION CAN NOT BE DEMOCRAT , HUMANITARIAN AND MERITORIOUS !!!!!

    WE ARE STRUGLING HARD TO BE SELF MADE , PROSPEROUS , HUMANITARIAN , DEMOCCRAT AND MERITORIOUS LIKE OUR FORE FATHERS OF INDUS VALLEYCIVILISATION AND ONWARDS !!!!!

    HUM HONGEY KAAMYAAB EK DIN FOR EVER !!!!!
    hh said
    June 5, 2009 @ 2:25 am
    And who wants to crush equality? I am asking for meritocracy but you are asking for reservations. You are crushing equality.

  78. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Dear Chumber ji ,
    I am convinceeed by your views and appreciate that you now introduced the new term ‘ BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS ‘ for the evil people .

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 7, 2009 @ 4:31 pm
    BEWARE OF THE RAPIST , RACEIST AND FASCIST GODS SPONSORED BY THE BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS !!!!!

    • hh said

      Dear Chumber ji ,
      I am convinceeed by your views and appreciate that you now introduced the new term ‘ BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS ‘ for the evil people .
      ————————————————–

      LOL 😀

      So Chumber has now become the inventor of a term called brahmin priest class !!!

      And i thot that term existed since atleast 5000 years.

  79. C .L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE READ YOUR PURANAS WHICH I QUOTED OR BURN THESE PURANAS TO MAKE YOUR CLAIM SOLID !!!!!

    YOU MAY WRITE TO THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF THE HINDU UNIVERSITY , VARANASI ON THIS MATTER AND HE WILL ASK YOU MEET THE SANSKRIT SCHOLARS OF HIS UNIVERSITY !
    PLEASE READ YOUR PURANAS WHICH I QUOTED OR BURN THESE PURANAS TO MAKE YOUR CLAIM SOLID !!!!!
    I REMIND YOU IN YOUR OWN WORDS ,” You beware of your stupidity and blown out lunacy.”

    ‘ SATYA MEV JAYATEY ‘ FOR EVER !!!!!

    hh said
    June 8, 2009 @ 11:58 am
    Brahma, Vishnu did not commit any rape.

    You beware of your stupidity and blown out lunacy.

    • hh said

      Since you have read the padma purana, please show me the chapter number and page number of the rape incident that you are alleging. If you find it difficult, then you go to the vice chancellor of banaras hindu university and talk to sanskrit professore there. You have alleged, so you provide proof.

  80. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    What is the contribution of this Brahmin priest class towards the humanity ?
    This Brahmin priest class is very corrupt monetary , sexually and mentally .
    This Brahmin priest class compromised with the foriegners being a foriegner and I feel sorry of being a Brahmin by birth , I discard this Brahmin priest class and its Gods .
    I am an athiest and humanitarian Brahmin .I even hate the Brahmin and other terminologies of the varna system .

    hh said
    June 9, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    LOL

    So Chumber has now become the inventor of a term called brahmin priest class !!!

    And i thot that term existed since atleast 5000 years.

    hh said
    June 9, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    • hh said

      If you want to discard, it it your wish.

      If I do not want to discard, it is my wish. You cannot force me to do your bidding.

  81. C . L . CHUMBER said

    AND THE ARYANS INVADED INDIA 5000 YEARS AGO !!!!!

    hh said
    June 9, 2009 @ 10:04 am
    And i thot that term existed since atleast 5000 years.

  82. C . L . CHUMBER said

    hh said
    June 12, 2009 @ 9:23 am
    If you want to discard, it it your wish.

    If I do not want to discard, it is my wish. You cannot force me to do your bidding.

  83. C . L . CHUMBER said

    NO ONE CAN DEFEND ,PROPOGATE AND WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RECEIST AND FASCIST PERSON ( S ) AS THE CONSTITUTION IS BASED ON EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!

    YOU GO TO COURT AND ASK TO PERMIT YOU TO ‘ DEFEND ,PROPOGATE AND WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RECEIST AND FASCIST PERSON ( S ) ‘ . THE MAGISTRATE WILL PUT YOU BEHIND BARS UNDER THE LAW OF THE LAND !

    HOW WILL YOU UNDERSTAND ?

    hh said
    June 12, 2009 @ 9:23 am
    If you want to discard, it it your wish.

    If I do not want to discard, it is my wish. You cannot force me to do your bidding.

    • hh said

      i am not defending rapism, racism and fascism in any form.

      you are just lying all rubbish things about hindu gods.

      hindu gods have not done the crimes you are accusing them of.

      the gods show the path to equality, liberty, fraternity and justice. they show why man must not yield to his temptations. they show that falsehood always fails.

      you yourself are using a sanskrit vedic verse: satyameva jayate.

      it is you who will be jailed if you go come to court with all your stupid allegations. that is why you are afraid to file a case or provide detials for others to file a case.

      • KUMARPUSHP said

        HH,you are a born liar ,you god rama had killed shmbukha because he started reading you cow shits vedas,another asshole Tulsi das written about shudhras,you hindus are born to be vanished from earth because you and yous gods are inhumen.things which is not good for societies should be demolished and burnt so they should not come back to humenkind again.

      • Sukra Charya said

        KUMARPUSHP
        “..things which is not good for societies..”

        OK. Tell us. What is YOUR opinion of what is good for societies?

  84. C . L . CHUMBER said

    PLEASE SEE YOUR FACE IN THE MIRROR OF THIS BLOG AND YOU WILL FIND YOUR REALITY !!!!!

    hh said
    June 22, 2009 @ 6:37 am
    i am not defending rapism, racism and fascism in any form.

    • hh said

      Mr.Loony,

      Please find your face in this blog and you will understand your lunacy.

  85. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. HAPPY HINDU !
    PLEASE ELABORATE WITH REFERENCES THAT THE HINDU GODS WERE NOT AGAINST THE EQUALITY . LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!

    PLEASE ALSO GIVE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THE HINDU SOCIETY IS NOT PRO VARNA/CASTE SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ?

    hh said
    June 22, 2009 @ 6:37 am
    – – –
    the gods show the path to equality, liberty, fraternity and justice. they show why man must not yield to his temptations. they show that falsehood always fails.

    • Sukra Charya said

      “PLEASE ALSO GIVE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THE HINDU SOCIETY IS NOT PRO VARNA/CASTE SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ?”.

      Chumber,
      That is what we have been saying. Hindu society is NOT pro-VARNA or pro-CASTE.

  86. C . L . CHUMBER said

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 15, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
    NO ONE CAN DEFEND ,PROPOGATE AND WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RECEIST AND FASCIST PERSON ( S ) AS THE CONSTITUTION IS BASED ON EQUALITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE !!!!!

    YOU GO TO COURT AND ASK TO PERMIT YOU TO ‘ DEFEND ,PROPOGATE AND WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RECEIST AND FASCIST PERSON ( S ) ‘ . THE MAGISTRATE WILL PUT YOU BEHIND BARS UNDER THE LAW OF THE LAND !

    HOW WILL YOU UNDERSTAND ?

    hh said
    June 22, 2009 @ 6:37 am
    _ _
    it is you who will be jailed if you go come to court with all your stupid allegations. that is why you are afraid to file a case or provide detials for others to file a case.

    • hh said

      then go and file a case. prove your allegations right.

      or you provide us your tada case number so that we can file a case.

      you are suffering from mental rabies. certainly you need treatment.

  87. C . L . CHUMBER said

    RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST HINDU GODS !( 3320 REFERENCE ON GOOGLE)

    COURTESY : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=RAPIST+%2C+RACIST+AND+FASCIST+HINDU+GODS+%21&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    hh said
    June 22, 2009 @ 6:37 am
    i am not defending rapism, racism and fascism in any form.

    you are just lying all rubbish things about hindu gods.

  88. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,
    Dalit is a powerful term as you claim and you agree that it is only a powerful terminology and not actually powerful in deed.
    Does not Arvind Adiga know that we have a Dalit Chief Minister Mayavathi.
    How and for the fore most why should it matter to Mr.Adiga. He wrote a novel and not a biography on Mayavathi. If you are capable of writing novels that attracts international readers , you can also try one and get some Hooker prize worthy for your writings, nah.
    C.L.CHUMBER said
    January 3, 2009 @ 9:59 am
    I HATE BRAHMA AND BRAHMINS WHO INVENTED , MANTAINED AND GLORIFIED THE VARNA / CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!
    This and these confession is more than enough to prove that you are not a secular and intelectual social reformer like your/our Baba Saheb Ambedkar but a hard core specialist in spreading hatred and terror through any available media at hand with an intention to cause and promote hostility among the Indian public with the malicious and lecherously knitted intention to achieve your personal ambitions at some ones’ cost with out your efforts and you are a person with inability to promote yourself in an educated and civilised way as preached/practiced by Baba Saheb whom you always quote as your model /hero but a PERSON WITH REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY who instantly at every effort FAIL to promote himself to be s distinguished person in the society and promote and preach only hatred and nothing but a fugitive terrorist on the net. An individual not even attempted for the correction of anamoly among Dalits with in the community.
    SO YOU, AS SELF PROCLAIMED SECULAR AND INTELECTUAL THINKER AND SOCIAL REFORMER , LOST THE LEAST ELIGABILITY TO EQUATE YOURSELF WITH ANY PERSON STRIVING AT HIS LEAST CAPACITY FOR THE CAUSE OF DOWN TRODDEN DALIT. IT IS A SHAME ON YOU.
    And by the by , until the invasion of Mohamadans and Britishers, Brahmins is not caste but was a practice and the way of life any person could choose to live and lead his life. And therefore, your hostile attitude towards that community looks very childish, meaningless , abrupt and adopted by you with the sheer sense of acute jealous .
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    June 8, 2009 @ 9:40 am
    A PERSON MR. HAPPY HINDU WHO WORSHIP THE BRAHMA LIKE DICTATOR WHO INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED ( HE WAS AN AUTOCRAT KING WHOSE CAPITAL WAS AT PUSHKAR IN RAJASTHAN STATE OF INDIA ) THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE SOCIO-ECONOMIC SYSTEM OF GRADATION AND DEGRADATION CAN NOT BE DEMOCRAT , HUMANITARIAN AND MERITORIOUS !!!!!
    WE ARE STRUGLING HARD TO BE SELF MADE , PROSPEROUS , HUMANITARIAN , DEMOCCRAT AND MERITORIOUS LIKE OUR FORE FATHERS OF INDUS VALLEYCIVILISATION AND ONWARDS !!!!!
    Who asked you to believe in brahma and worship him. No one ever even suggested you to do so except , in case if any one asked you to do so, your biological parents and this is a democratic india and any body can worship any thing they want. No body stops them. It is a constitutional right of Indian Citizen and at the same time is a crime to defame other form of worship. You have to honour the constitution of India written by Dr.Ambedkar and if you do not observe and respect the sanctity of the Constitution it is nothing but insulting the great architect of Indian Constitution Dr. DADA SAHEB AMBEDKAR thereby insulting the dalit community for being ignorant of that and ruthlessly exhibiting your lack of respect not only to his contribution and work towards elevation of poor and the down trodden , but also to Dr. Ambedkar as a person. So now you decide what you do.
    What it makes any one to conclude by all your postings are that you have ,with out any doubt and arguments, accepted in full consent of yourself and your consciousness that Brahmins are superior than you and Hinduism is the best way of life to follow. And you are deeply jealous of that .
    You struggle hard to achieve your goal for being Self made, Prosperous, human concerned, democratic and meritorious like your intellectual fore fathers at your cost and by your sincere efforts, with the commitment to create and nourish a civilized society and not to retaliate but to realize your social responsibility , but not at the cost of others and at the mercy and the legislatively rightful alms given away by the Government of India.
    There is nothing much to say than telling that you are promoting the INEQUALITY IN THE SOCIETY by creating negative force with in yourself , which probably take control over you and because of that it is only you who suffer .

  89. C . L . CHUMBER said

    IS HINDUISM ANTI-CONSTITUTION ?
    ( ON GOOGLE )
    http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=IS+HINDUISM+ANTI-CONSTITUTION+%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

  90. C . L . CHUMBER said

    WHY NOT ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF VISHANU`S INCARNATIONS ?

  91. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THE BJP SHOULD GIVE UP :-
    THE ANTI-MUSLIM AND MINORITIES AND ANTI-SECULARISM AGENDA

  92. Sukra Charya said

    “Is this the success story of a Dalit. I was anticipating the Dalit hero to become a CEO of a software company. But he again ends up as driver or rather a person who hires many drivers.”

    Chumber,
    A successful businessman is one who identifies a particular need of the society and fulfils it. Ofcourse, he also makes himself wealthy. That’s what Tata did. That’s what Godrej did. Kwality is a big chain today – but the founder was selling pakoras in Howrah Station on foot. (Being uneducated, he could not pronounce QUALITY – and would say “K-waliteee”). And there are thousands of others – all over India. But they are not copies of Bill Gates – but they are successes in ANY sense of the term.

    This is YOUR problem. In your perception, you want ALL Dalits to become Bill Gates. In reality, its impossible.

  93. rajashekar said

    Hey Mr. Chumber,

    Why do’nt you stop cracking jokes and answer the points posed to you by me on 29.06.09. You have already proved yourselves to be container of Nitrous oxide and by posting some hilarious writings you prove more of a Joker than awise man and therefore atleast for some time you show your intelectual quality by clarifying my doubts posted to you nah.

  94. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,

    As fas as I know, there is nothing called Anglo – vaidik. You are breeding a new concept of community. Can you clarify what is ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS ? I will assure you to clarify your doubt plz,
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 3, 2009 @ 1:30 pm
    WHY NOT ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF VISHANU`S INCARNATIONS ?

  95. C . L . CHUMBER said

    * Black magic practiced in Asaram ashram: CID
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Ahmedabad/Black-magic-practiced-in-Asaram-ashram-CID/articleshow/4733339.cms

  96. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,

    You have not come back on my posting on 29.06. I think You do not have any thing except simply accept what I wrote .

  97. C . L . CHUMBER said

    I HAD ALREADY REPLIED . WHAT IS THE FUN OF PASTING YOUR WRITING MORE THAN ONE PLACE ?

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 8, 2009 @ 3:09 pm
    YOU ARE A NEW BORN CHILD IN THIS MATTER !

    DID YOU EVER KNOW ABOUT THE ARYA SAMAJ ESTABLISHED BY SWAMI DAYA NAND SARASWATI BRAHMIN ?

    SWAMI DAYA NAND`S DISCIPLES ESTABLISHED THE DAYA NAND ANGLO-VAIDIK COLLEGE , LAHORE !!!

    Dayanand Anglo-Vedic Schools System LINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayanand_Anglo-Vedic_Schools_System

    COURTESY :https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/a-letter-to-narendra-modi/

    rajashekar said
    July 6, 2009 @ 8:42 am
    Hi Chumber,

    As fas as I know, there is nothing called Anglo – vaidik. You are breeding a new concept of community. Can you clarify what is ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS ? I will assure you to clarify your doubt plz,
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 3, 2009 @ 1:30 pm
    WHY NOT ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF VISHANU`S INCARNATIONS ?

    • Sukra Charya said

      “DID YOU EVER KNOW ABOUT THE ARYA SAMAJ …”

      Chumber-ji,
      What is your point? Yes, we have a Aligarh Muslim University and a Benares Hindu University. We have several Christian colleges and schools named after different Christian saints.

      Are you saying that people who have graduated from these colleges are crooks and criminals?

      • Kumarpushp said

        Arya samaj is the biggest enemy then BJP and RSS.Arya samaj is a men eater tiger in sheep skin.

  98. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,

    I have not pasted my writings in more than one place. I do not understand what you reffer to. Be clear.

    Do not take the advantage of these matters only to avoid to answer other issues posed to you.

    And I do not have habit of cutting and pasting. My writings are original.And not followed other’s path nor copied .

    So answer the queries posed to you addressed to you on 29.06.09 and prove ypur stand

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 12, 2009 @ 3:02 pm
    I HAD ALREADY REPLIED . WHAT IS THE FUN OF PASTING YOUR WRITING MORE THAN ONE PLACE ?

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 8, 2009 @ 3:09 pm
    YOU ARE A NEW BORN CHILD IN THIS MATTER !

    DID YOU EVER KNOW ABOUT THE ARYA SAMAJ ESTABLISHED BY SWAMI DAYA NAND SARASWATI BRAHMIN ?

    SWAMI DAYA NAND`S DISCIPLES ESTABLISHED THE DAYA NAND ANGLO-VAIDIK COLLEGE , LAHORE !!!

    Dayanand Anglo-Vedic Schools System LINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayanand_Anglo-Vedic_Schools_System

    COURTESY :https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/a-letter-to-narendra-modi/

    rajashekar said
    July 6, 2009 @ 8:42 am
    Hi Chumber,

    As fas as I know, there is nothing called Anglo – vaidik. You are breeding a new concept of community. Can you clarify what is ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS ? I will assure you to clarify your doubt plz,
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 3, 2009 @ 1:30 pm
    WHY NOT ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP THE LINGAS OF VISHANU`S INCARNATIONS ?

  99. C . L . CHUMBER said

    THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE ANGLO-VAIDIKS ( ARYANS ) !

    rajashekar said
    July 9, 2009 @ 10:31 am
    Hi Chumber,
    I asked for the ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS ? NOT an education institution named by it. Do not give some manipulated clarification.

  100. C . L . CHUMBER said

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    July 16, 2009 @ 2:33 pm

    WHY DID NOT UPA SPENT RS. 72,500 CRORES IN BUDGET FOR DALITS ?

    144 LINKS ON GOOGLE .

    PLEASE READ AND RESEARCH HOW THE UPA IS UPPER CASTE PEOPLE ALLIANCE .

    THIS IS A BIGGEST EVER TREACHERY IN INDIA BY THE INDIAN CABINET !!!!!

    COURTESY :
    http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=WHY+DID+NOT+UPA+SPENT+RS.+72%2C500+CRORES+IN+BUDGET+FOR+DALITS+%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    * * *

    UPA FAILED TO USE RS.72,500 CRORES FOR DALITS : STUDY ( TIMES OF INDIA , DATED 5TH JULY , 2009 )
    COURTESY :
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/mayavathi-as-pm-the-change-has-arrived/#comment-6961

    • KUMARPUSHP said

      Dear Chumber, we should file the writ in supreme court regarding 72,500 crores rupees which is lying under the bed of Hindu led government.I am ready to give big share of mony to file a case, so world will know how hindu led government and their clans are making fool of dalits.

  101. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,

    Answer the other queries also posted to you. Why are you discriminating in your selection of questions???.

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 16, 2009 @ 1:15 pm
    THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE ANGLO-VAIDIKS ( ARYANS ) !

    rajashekar said
    July 9, 2009 @ 10:31 am
    Hi Chumber,
    I asked for the ANGLO – VAIDIK HINDUS ? NOT an education institution named by it. Do not give some manipulated clarification.

  102. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR. RAJSHEKAR RIGHTLY WROTE AS BELOW :

    * YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO GALLOWS AT ONCE WITHOUT SHOWING ANY MERCY FOR ALL YOUR SINS COMMITTED IN THIS BLOG .- a commanding brahmin.
    ** I AM BANKRUPT FOR THE PHRASE OF WORDS AND UNABLE TO FIND ANY TO WRITE ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS ABOUT DRAGGING THE SUPREME COURT OF THIS COUNTRY INTO THIS MATTER .

    rajashekar said
    July 8, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    Mr. Chumber,

    COURTESY :
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-6979

  103. C . L . CHUMBER said

    INDIAN JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED !!!!!

    COURTESY :
    http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=909&Itemid=174

  104. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Brahmins & Jews are cousins: DV is right

    MLECCHA, SAN FRANSCISCO, USA

    Dalit-Muslim unity may be possible once Dalit spiritual movements identify themselves as Sabian. Prophet Muhammad said good Christians, good Jews, and good Sabians were under Muslim protection as People of the Book. However, Kaffirs are not. I argue that Hindus are Kaffirs and Dalits are Sabians. It is actually Jewish scholars who have identified the Sabians with Noah and his 7 laws. A Sabian is a good person who does the following. While the Jews are promoting the 7 Laws, they unfortunately promote a Jewish supremacy I don’t believe in. They say “Just obey these 7 Laws, but we are your superiors”

    Brahmins made Brahma, the creator, inferior to Vishnu and Shiva. Brahmins murder Dalits. Married Brahmin men rape Dalit and Adivasi women, making them adulterers. Brahmins steal from the Dalits by not allowing the access to their wells and to land. Brahmins, in essence, are drinking the blood of the Dalits and by hording village wells, gloating on the blood of the Earth. Brahmins lie. Brahmins refuse to establish justice for the Dalits. This makes the Brahmins instigators of what Muhammad opposed. The Brahmins are Kaffirs. They are infidels. You are correct on the Jewish families that control the banks. They actually created the system that led to the Great Depression and our current depression. Bush played right into their game, and the bankers control both the Democrats and the Republicans, so they always win. The have a system called Fractional Reserve Banking, where they can lend ten times more money than they have, and then claim they own the fake money they lended. This is why the dollar has gone down almost every single year since it was created. It was started by the Baron von Rothschild the great Jew. In the 1700s, he sent his banker sons to Germany, France, and England, so they could each gain control of those countries’ banking systems. George Bush was very evil and he was most certainly a tyrant. In both elections, key states had malfunctioning voting machines which would change votes from the Democratic candidate to Bush. This was tested and proven true. Bush was not elected. The voting machines programmed by his cronies elected Bush. Bush was even evil in Texas when he governed that state, executing many innocent men, most of them Black, for murders they were proven to be innocent of while in jail. Bush didn’t care about this, but thought they should be executed anyway. By calling the Jews and Brahmins cousins, you are speaking a genetic truth. The Ashkenazi males (Northern European Jewish males) and Brahmin males both have a heavy concentration of Haplogroup R1.
    COURTESY :
    http://www.dalitvoice.org/Templates/july_a2009/articles.htm

  105. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Dear Kumarpushap ji ,
    Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram used to say in his cadre camps that there were two main hurdles in the movement of the Bahujans to achieve their constitutional Independece by establishing their own rule . These hurdles are army and judiciary . That is why , the manuwadi rulers did not implemented constitutional reservation for SCs , STs and OBCs in the Army and judiciary . Why ?
    The manuwadi rulers never imposed military rule in Punjab until the Blue Star operation but they sent army to the dalit localities of Punjab in May , 2009 when their was no killing of the non-dalits . The army killed four dalits without reason .the same party`s rulers killed more than three thousand Sikhs in Delhi in November , 1984 .Where was this army ? Why could not Giani Zail Singh , chief commander of the army call the army in Delhi ?
    Indira Gandhi dynasity had to pay enough for their unconstitutional activities and the history will be repeated again and again .

    The judiciary is the prostitute of the maanuwadi system which killed Sahib Kanshi Ram . On 14th July , 2004 , the registrar , The Delhi High Court got Rs. 25 lacs from Mayawati and got Saheb `s thumb impression on a fake statement by injecting him to be unconscious . When I got the copy of that statement , I released a press statement against this forgery as Saheb was B.Sc pass . The press published this statement with highlit and even in the Delhi news papers . The supreme court had to reject this statement but did not take legal action against the Registrar .

    I am ready to go to court but I think ” awaaz-e-khalkat , awaaz-e-Khuda ” means the opinion of the people is the opinion of god ! We may arrange press conferences at the national and state capitals to highlight this forgery which may result in their loss in the coming elections .

    Dear Kumarpushap ! I appreciate your sentiments and you may contact me on my mobile no. (0) 96462-27227 for the legal- battle and media-battle against the unconstitutional forces .

    Thanks.

    KUMARPUSHP said
    July 18, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

    Dear Chumber, we should file the writ in supreme court regarding 72,500 crores rupees which is lying under the bed of Hindu led government.I am ready to give big share of mony to file a case, so world will know how hindu led government and their clans are making fool of dalits.

  106. rajashekar said

    Hi Chumber,

    I do not understand why you have a copy cat syndrome. You only prove, time and again ,while responding to my writings, that you are good only in reproduction of my writings from my original texts from word to word with out any of your meaningful and thoughtful response.

    Any way you started your response with the following phrase :

    MR. RAJSHEKAR RIGHTLY WROTE AS BELOW :

    Should I take your above quote as your acceptance and agreement that you fall in line with me ???

    And you continued with a remark (??) – a commanding Brahmin with a single * and at the second with the starting line – I am bankrupt for the phrase of words…………… with Two *. What does that mean , I am unable to understand your typo graphic symbols .

    So please comment freely with out any fear of getting me on the wrong side. After all I know your psychology and how it works. Never ever feel shy . When what you write is right, why you shy.

    And again you resorted to your usual and expected cheap tactics of selecting some sentence that is convenient for you to respond that too with out contributing any useful thought in it.

    WHY DO NOT YOU RESPOND TO ALL THAT I WROTE ADDRESSING ONLY YOU AND NONE OTHER THAN YOU WITH OUT BEING SELECTIVE REMOTELY. AND THAT TOO YOU RESPOND TO THESE AFTER YOU SERIOUSLY CLAIM THAT YOU DO NOT RESPOND OR HAVE ANY E-DIOLOGUE WITH ME . IT ONLY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE A SPINELESS CREATURE LIVING ON SOME ONE ELSES’ BRAIN AND INTELLIGENCE OR WITH BORROWED AND ILL GOTTEN INFO. AND YOU HAVE NO MATERIAL TO EVIDENTLY PROVE YOUR ALEGATION AND ACCUSATION THAT YOU MADE AGAINST ME . IT IS PROVED SO ON THE BASIS OF YOUR OWN ACT- PRESENT AND THE PAST.

    Now again do not come back to me and say that this rsponse contains abuse and filthy language as a matter of your practice to keep away from answering those posted to you.

    I know you are losing your ground but then accept it or answer all with out resorting to respond to discriminatingly selective phrase of words / sentence.
    At this juncture show me your only one answer/response that you made / responded without reproduction of my original text.

    Be fearless . Do not resort to take a back door entrance.

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 17, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

    * YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO GALLOWS AT ONCE WITHOUT SHOWING ANY MERCY FOR ALL YOUR SINS COMMITTED IN THIS BLOG .- a commanding brahmin.
    ** I AM BANKRUPT FOR THE PHRASE OF WORDS AND UNABLE TO FIND ANY TO WRITE ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS ABOUT DRAGGING THE SUPREME COURT OF THIS COUNTRY INTO THIS MATTER .

    rajashekar said
    July 8, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    Mr. Chumber,

  107. C . L . CHUMBER said

    SC REFUSES TO STAY HC ORDER THAT DESCRIMINALIZES GAY SEX ( TOI DT. 20TH JULY , 2009 )

    LINK : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/India/SC-refuses-to-stay-HC-order-that-decriminalizes-gay-sex/articleshow/4798150.cms

  108. Sukra Charya said

    Here is another example. Mr.Rajasekhar, you may appreciate it.

    A man was claiming that he was discriminated against while searching for a job. The matter went to court. The man’s lawyer said that his client was asked UNFAIR questions in his job-interview five years ago. The lawyer demanded that his client be paid 10 lakhs as a fine.

    The defence called the HR manager of the company. He showed records of the interview. The company’s opinion was that the man was unfit for the clerical job, because he had failed the test. What was the test? The test was to make a simple sentence using the words ‘cat’ and ‘rat’. (The cat ate the rat – or something like that).

    The judge felt that something fishy was going on. He called the man and told him he could have the job – provided he made a simple sentence using the words ‘cat’ and ‘dog’. The man failed. The judge tried again using the words ‘boy’ and ‘dog’. The man failed. The judge tried again using the words ‘girl’ and ‘doll’. The man failed again.

    The case was dismissed.

    One feels that person is now asking asking the Indian nation to give him the 72,500 CRORES.

  109. rajashekar said

    Mr.Sukracharya,

    It is well said indeed because that is how it looks like going by most of the quotes in this blog.

    And in case , as you mention, the reward for Rs. 72,500 CRORES is honoured and handed over , an other organization like L T T E may perhaps come up over night in secret ( with so much of money in wrong and unruly hands with no sense of social responsibility and with out any intelligence , if not the most needed intellectuality , don’t you think it is possible) in connivance with any and all other anti constitutional and anti Indian association, secretly operating as sleeping cells in India with the support of our own people , who are not patriot enough to guard the safety of their country and its citizens , with out an ounce of shame and self respect for hard working in propagating nothing except hatred and advocating violence with filthy and abusive literature, which even a person of a least knowledge about the meaning of those elegant words -decency , dignity and self esteem may refuse to digest and instantly shall feel the sense of shame in disgust for having been exposed and made to read such a demeaning and consciously frustrating literature , only to destabilize the unity of this country with the only intent to maliciously harm and destroy the communal harmony and peaceful atmosphere that is continuing to exist still in this country ,in spite of several provocation and enjoyed by every citizen of this country including people causing such provocatively harmful situation.
    Of course there can be exceptional cases where very few people may come up with their own version which is obviously created and sprung up for their own personal benefit, only to gain a political ,financial and social mileage apart from misguiding those mass to take a wrong notion of their very existence by repeatedly accusing others but to profusely ignore to educate the mass about their strength and the weakness as well and proceed with out any fruitful approach and a road map drawn sincerely for the cause of uplifting and their liberation as well .

    The approach itself is wrong. Demeaning others’ status do not bring any evolution in the existence of the present status but only makes one to artificially feel and see illusion of having attained deserved and enjoyable status and is not a natural process of evolution to derive a secured and esteemed feeling . It is a peculiar psychology which you can find if you look around you. They need to be educated Scientific way to remove their ignorance and treat them sensitively to over come inferiority complex they suffer from and to bring them back to the main stream.

    Sukra Charya said
    July 20, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    Here is another example. Mr.Rajasekhar, you may appreciate it.
    A man was claiming that he was discriminated against while searching for a job. The matter went to court. The man’s lawyer said that his client was asked UNFAIR questions in his job-interview five years ago. The lawyer demanded that his client be paid 10 lakhs as a fine.
    The defence called the HR manager of the company. He showed records of the interview. The company’s opinion was that the man was unfit for the clerical job, because he had failed the test. What was the test? The test was to make a simple sentence using the words ‘cat’ and ‘rat’. (The cat ate the rat – or something like that).
    The judge felt that something fishy was going on. He called the man and told him he could have the job – provided he made a simple sentence using the words ‘cat’ and ‘dog’. The man failed. The judge tried again using the words ‘boy’ and ‘dog’. The man failed. The judge tried again using the words ‘girl’ and ‘doll’. The man failed again.
    The case was dismissed.
    One feels that person is now asking asking the Indian nation to give him the 72,500 CRORES.

  110. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THESE MANUWADI AND ANTI-CONSTITUTION PERSONS PROTECT THE MANUWADI AND ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL CORRUPT AND TREACHEROUS CENTRE GOVT. !!!!!

    Sukra Charya said
    July 20, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    One feels that person is now asking asking the Indian nation to give him the 72,500 CRORES.

    rajashekar said
    July 23, 2009 @ 8:43 am

    Mr.Sukracharya,

    It is well said indeed because that is how it looks like going by most of the quotes in this blog.

    And in case , as you mention, the reward for Rs. 72,500 CRORES is

  111. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Mr. Chumber is doing dialogue but the others are abusing him . They have nothing to say except abusing and blaming . They have not a single argument in defense of their Gods .

    Mr. Rajashekar friend of Mr. Shukra Charya threatened Mr. Chumber to kill him mercilessly . But no one including Mr. Shukra Charya condemned Mr. Rajashekar `s threatening .

    Mr. Chumber is polite but the others are not . I condemn their threatening strongly and urge the administrator of this blog to register complaint against Mr. Rajashekar . .

    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 17, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

    MR. RAJSHEKAR RIGHTLY WROTE AS BELOW :

    * YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO GALLOWS AT ONCE WITHOUT SHOWING ANY MERCY FOR ALL YOUR SINS COMMITTED IN THIS BLOG .- a commanding brahmin.
    ** I AM BANKRUPT FOR THE PHRASE OF WORDS AND UNABLE TO FIND ANY TO WRITE ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS ABOUT DRAGGING THE SUPREME COURT OF THIS COUNTRY INTO THIS MATTER .

    rajashekar said
    July 8, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    Mr. Chumber,

    COURTESY :
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-6979

  112. C.L.CHUMBER said

    Gandhi ‘responsible’ for partition

    Mr V.N. Datta’s contention that Gandhi was responsible for partition of India is justified. However, Mr Datta has confined his comments to the causes of failure of the Cripps Mission. There were other reasons also that brought about the partition for which Gandhi is responsible. Gandhi often declared — “Don’t vivisect the country; vivisect me” — to express his disapproval of Pakistan. But he also said: “I am a man of non-violence,” therefore, cannot resist the demand for Pakistan. He also advised Muslims to shift to the Muslim majority areas if they thought they were unsafe in Hindu majority areas. It is thus clear that Gandhi was not against the formation of Pakistan, and subsequent partition of the country.

    Gandhi’s determination to impose Pt Nehru’s supremacy on India was another cause of partition. Subhas Chander Bose, a potential rival of Pt Nehru, was coerced out of India and he went on self-exile. Mr Jinnah, the other potential rival of Pt Nehru, was coerced out of the Congress party. Mr Jinnah was a crafty person. He joined the Muslim League and exacted Pakistan from the Congress under the very nose of Gandhi. The way for Pt Nehru was thus cleared and he became the first Prime Minister of India.

    Partition of India could have been avoided had the Congress leaders exhibited honesty of purpose. But they had their own axes to grind. Hence partition of India and the consequent catastrophe.

    It is true that there would have been terrific loot, arson and murder in the country if the demand for Pakistan was rejected. There would also have been instability in the country. Yet that would have been tolerable and far less harmful than the destruction suffered due to partition, especially due to the following eventualities:

    (a) On exchange of population lakhs of men, women and children were butchered. Property worth billions of rupees was destroyed. The entire energy and resources had to be directed towards rehabilitation of refugees. The Punjab government and to some extent the Central government also remained paralysed for about two years.

    (b) Death and destruction caused by infiltrators in Kashmir in 1947.

    (c) Death and destruction caused by the 1965, ’71 and Kargil wars.

    (d) Death and destruction still being caused by terrorism let loose by Pakistan in Kashmir and other parts of the India.

    We are afraid of attributing responsibility for partition of India to the whims of the Congress and Gandhi. But for how long can we suppress the truth to shield the Congress party? One day the cat will be out of the bag. History and nature will not forgive the guilty.
    BY
    R. KAUNDINYA Ambala Cantt.
    COURTESY :http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030116/mailbag.htm

  113. rajashekar said

    Hi Ram Krishan Sharma,

    You are foolish enough to interpret the way convenient for you to put it across with out reading between the lines. And how many times Chumber has made typical comments like that and where were you at that time with out making your protest. I made that comment only to exhibit my frustration and not to threaten him. Please note.

    And as a citizen of this India do you think and endorse Chumber’s opinion that raj ghat where our Indian leaders are put to eternal rest should be pulled out of their grave to accommodate the dalits to inhabit throwing the dignity of this country into thin air.

    Since you started on his behalf now you don’t stop here. Continue with your further comments or stop straying around here as and when you feel the ground is strong.

    RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
    July 28, 2009 @ 3:45 am
    Mr. Chumber is doing dialogue but the others are abusing him . They have nothing to say except abusing and blaming . They have not a single argument in defense of their Gods .
    Mr. Rajashekar friend of Mr. Shukra Charya threatened Mr. Chumber to kill him mercilessly . But no one including Mr. Shukra Charya condemned Mr. Rajashekar `s threatening .
    Mr. Chumber is polite but the others are not . I condemn their threatening strongly and urge the administrator of this blog to register complaint against Mr. Rajashekar . .
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 17, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
    MR. RAJSHEKAR RIGHTLY WROTE AS BELOW :
    * YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO GALLOWS AT ONCE WITHOUT SHOWING ANY MERCY FOR ALL YOUR SINS COMMITTED IN THIS BLOG .- a commanding brahmin.
    ** I AM BANKRUPT FOR THE PHRASE OF WORDS AND UNABLE TO FIND ANY TO WRITE ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS ABOUT DRAGGING THE SUPREME COURT OF THIS COUNTRY INTO THIS MATTER .
    rajashekar said
    July 8, 2009 @ 11:22 am
    Mr. Chumber,

  114. C.L.CHUMBER said

    BUT NOW THE COWARD SUKRA CHARYA WILL NOT CONDEMN THIS MURDER OF INNOCENT CIVILIAN !!!!! WHY ? ? ? ? ?

    A COWARD RAMA , KING OF AYODYA , KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK AT THE SHAMBUK TEK NAME HILL , 64 KMS AWAY FROM NAGPUR ( MAHARASHTRA ) !!!!

    THIS IS RECORDED IN THE UTTAR KAND ( LAST 7TH CHAPTER ) OF VALMIKI RAMAYNA .

    THIS IS RECORDED IN THE THE NAGPUR DISTRICT GAZETTEER AND THE ANOTHER BOOK ” TEMPLES OF MAHARASHTRA ” PUBLISHED BY THE MAHARASHTRA GOVT.

    MR. JAWAHAR LAL NEHARU ALSO RECORDED IN HIS BOOK ” THE DISCOVERY OF INDIA ” WHICH WAS TV SERIALIZED IN HINDI UNDER THE BANNER ” BHARAT EK KHOJ “.

    BUT NOW THE COWARD SUKRA CHARYA WILL NOT CONDEMN THIS MURDER OF INNOCENT CIVILIAN !!!!! WHY ? ? ? ? ?

    Sukra Charya said
    July 26, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

    Only a coward would advocate killing of innocent civilians.

  115. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Mr. Rajashekar ,
    Can not you talk in a sober manner ? You call me foolish . But I can neither say you fool nor flower . You are all actually addicted to abuses and blames .
    You wrote ,” I made that comment only to exhibit my frustration and not to threaten him. Please note. ” This is true that you all are abusing , blaming , threatening even to kill Mr. Chumber in frustration as you have nothing to answer Mr. Chumber . I think that you called me foolish also in frustration .

    As far Mr. Chumber`s remarks for Rajghat , he said that if the Supreme Court of India would give a judgement to dismantle the statues of the Dalit icons , then the Dalits would go to the Supreeme Court against the non-dalit icons` monuments , museums which were also built by the public money . What is wrong in it ? When the crores and crore of Indian live in the slums , a few burnt bodies live in many hundred acres at Rajghat ! Is this natural justice ?

    You blamed ,” Since you started on his behalf now you don’t stop here. Continue with your further comments or stop straying around here as and when you feel the ground is strong..” I have replied to you well without abusing you . Mr. Chumber is my favourite writer , he is not the stooge of the manuwadi system like other dalits . I also like him because he never looses temper and counter you all abusers with patience . Is it not true ?
    rajashekar said
    July 28, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

    Hi Ram Krishan Sharma,

    You are foolish enough to interpret the way convenient for you to put it across with out reading between the lines. And how many times Chumber has made typical comments like that and where were you at that time with out making your protest. I made that comment only to exhibit my frustration and not to threaten him. Please note.

    And as a citizen of this India do you think and endorse Chumber’s opinion that raj ghat where our Indian leaders are put to eternal rest should be pulled out of their grave to accommodate the dalits to inhabit throwing the dignity of this country into thin air.

    Since you started on his behalf now you don’t stop here. Continue with your further comments or stop straying around here as and when you feel the ground is strong.

    RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
    July 28, 2009 @ 3:45 am
    Mr. Chumber is doing dialogue but the others are abusing him . They have nothing to say except abusing and blaming . They have not a single argument in defense of their Gods .
    Mr. Rajashekar friend of Mr. Shukra Charya threatened Mr. Chumber to kill him mercilessly . But no one including Mr. Shukra Charya condemned Mr. Rajashekar `s threatening .
    Mr. Chumber is polite but the others are not . I condemn their threatening strongly and urge the administrator of this blog to register complaint against Mr. Rajashekar . .
    C . L . CHUMBER said
    July 17, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
    MR. RAJSHEKAR RIGHTLY WROTE AS BELOW :
    * YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO GALLOWS AT ONCE WITHOUT SHOWING ANY MERCY FOR ALL YOUR SINS COMMITTED IN THIS BLOG .- a commanding brahmin.
    ** I AM BANKRUPT FOR THE PHRASE OF WORDS AND UNABLE TO FIND ANY TO WRITE ANYTHING MORE THAN THIS ABOUT DRAGGING THE SUPREME COURT OF THIS COUNTRY INTO THIS MATTER .
    rajashekar said
    July 8, 2009 @ 11:22 am
    Mr. Chumber,

  116. C.L.CHUMBER said

    Dear readers ,
    The U.Ps on target of the capitalists and manuwadi politicians to dislodge Mayawati by hook and crook . We already watche in Punjab that how the Congress` centre governments imposed governot or the President`s rules in India to dislodge the Akali Dal / Sikhs politically which resulted in Punjab tumoil . The same planning is being initiated for U.P. which will repeat the Punjab problem like situation in U.P. also .
    That is why I reproduce BELOW an article from the FRONTLINE FORTNIGHTLY DATED 1-14 AUGUST , 2009 .
    LET US ALLOW TO RULE BSP IN U.P.

    POLITICS – Battle for turf
    BY
    VENKITESH RAMAKRISHNAN
    in Lucknow

    The Rita Joshi slur attains a new meaning when seen in the light of the approaching Assembly byelections.
    COURTESY :
    http://www.frontline.in/stories/20090814261603300.htm

  117. C.L.CHUMBER said

    A STUDY REVEALS THAT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST DALITS AT PLACES OF WORSHIP CONTINUES MORE OR LESS UNCHANGED DESPITE VARIOUS COMPAIGNS .

    NO ENTRY
    BY
    S. DORAIRAJ
    in Chennai
    A study reveals that discrimination against Dalits at places of worship continues more or less unchanged despite various campaigns.

    G. MOORTHY

    Kannimar temple in Paavali village in Virudhunagar district has been kept locked, denying the local people an opportunity to offer worship.

    “I AM delighted that my many-year-old desire has been fulfilled today.” This is how Mahatma Gandhi wrote in the visitors’ book shortly after offering worship at the Meenakshi-Sundareswarar temple in Madurai, Tamil Nadu, along with Dalits and members of certain other “excluded communities” on February 4, 1946.

    Speaking at a rally in Palani soon afterwards, he said worship of God’s image would serve no good unless people cleansed their hearts of hardness against fellow beings. God should be enshrined not in images but in human hearts. He said he worshipped the deities at the Madurai temple because that shrine was now open to Dalits. At the temple, he said he realised a new spiritual significance – worship in the temples must mean change of heart towards Dalits.

    Historians recall that Gandhi was reluctant to enter the shrine during all his four previous visits to Madurai – in 1919, 1921, 1927 and 1934 – because Dalits were denied entry. This was not the case when he visited Madurai for the fifth and final time. Thanks to the movement launched by progressive and democratic forces under the leadership of A. Vaidhyanatha Iyer, a Gandhian and freedom fighter, Dalits were allowed entry into the Meenakshi temple on July 8, 1939.

    More than six decades have rolled by since Gandhi’s visit to the Madurai temple and 70 years have passed since the success of the temple entry struggle that preceded it. Ahead of these two significant events, the Vaikom satyagraha in Kerala, aimed at securing freedom of movement for all sections of society along the roads leading to the Mahadeva temple, was spearheaded by “Periyar” E.V. Ramasamy in 1924. In spite of these campaigns, discrimination against Dalits at places of worship continues in different forms to this day.

    The issue has come to the fore and found its echo in the State Assembly and other public fora in the wake of the temple entry campaign launched by the Tamil Nadu Untouchability Eradication Front (TNUEF) headed by P. Sampath, State Secretariat member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist).

    Sampath said denial of temple entry to Dalits should be seen as part of the social oppression that was intertwined with class oppression as 90 per cent of Dalits were working people. He accused the government of not taking firm steps to end caste oppression and defend the democratic rights of the oppressed. Whenever Dalits attempted to assert their rights, the government tried to treat their resurgence as a law and order issue. He also expressed dismay at the attitude of certain Dalit outfits that did not want to join hands with the Left and democratic forces in their fight to protect the rights of Dalits.

    A recent report released by Evidence, a Madurai-based non-governmental organisation, based on a survey has highlighted the discrimination against Dalits at places of worship in five southern districts – Madurai, Tirunelveli, Virudhunagar, Sivaganga and Dindigul.

    The survey was conducted in April-May in 85 panchayats having a total population of 4,46,366, including 1,56,756 Dalits. It brought to light different types of discriminatory practices at 200 temples out of a total of 658 that are not under the purview of the Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowment (HR & CE) Department.

    Dalits have been denied entry into 121 temples. In 128 temples they do not have access to the sanctum sanctorum. They are not permitted to perform pujas at 106 shrines. Temple cars skip Dalit colonies at 174 places. Dalits are allowed to enter the places of worship only during specific hours fixed for them in 103 cases. In 86 temples, the honour of tying “parivattam” (a cloth tied around the head) has been denied to Dalits.

    THE HINDU PHOTO LIBRARY

    Mahatma Gandhi offering prayers at the Meenakshi-Sundareswarar temple in Madurai on February 4, 1946, along with Dalits and members of certain other “excluded communities”.

    According to the survey, in 49 panchayats Dalits have not been allowed to touch the rope of the temple car; bias persists in the distribution of prasadam at 110 temples; they are debarred from using chairs in 96 places of worship; discrimination is shown to them by priests in 115 places of worship; they are not allowed to touch the wooden peetam (seat) of the idol in 40 shrines; and at 114 places they are not allowed to participate in the festivals connected to temples or churches. In 51 temples, Dalits cannot perform rituals in fulfilment of a vow. Their movement is temporarily restricted during festivals in 13 villages, the survey claims.

    Bias prevails in some form or the other in temples situated in 17 panchayats although tax is collected from Dalits. Atrocities are committed against them in 49 panchayats during temple festivals or at the time of performing rituals. Reports from the majority of the panchayats speak of humiliation of Dalits by calling out their caste names, hurling abuses at women, and causing physical injuries.

    A visit to some of the villages where discriminatory practices are adopted showed that the status quoists and conservatives are determined to thwart Dalit assertiveness and ensure that their socio-cultural aspirations are suppressed.

    Interaction with the local people revealed that in villages where Dalits own land, they have withstood the onslaught of the forces that want to perpetuate feudal ideas and practices in the socio-cultural arena. In some other areas where landless Dalits have to depend on caste-Hindu landholders for their livelihood, their response is muted.

    However, the overall impression one gathered is that Dalits, more particularly the youth, by and large want to continue the organised response witnessed in the 1990s in a different form. The intervention of the Left, democratic and progressive forces to help Dalits to achieve their aspirations with regard to temple entry, equal treatment at places of worship and an end to discrimination against them at tea stalls, haircutting saloons and public water sources has provided a clear political orientation to their struggle. In many places they do not want to be carried away by fancy ideas such as “Dalit exclusivism”.

    Panthapuli village in Sankarankovil taluk in Tirunelveli district provides a striking instance of Dalits’ determination to fight for a legitimate share of power and public space with particular reference to places of worship. Caste Hindus had been keeping away from the Kannanallur Mariamman temple in the village ever since Dalits entered it on December 24, 2008. The district administration came forward to allow Dalits entry into the temple a week after 379 activists of the CPI(M) courted arrest demanding the implementation of a munsif court order in this regard.

    G. Nagarajan, an activist of the Democratic Youth Federation of India (DYFI), said that for the past several years there was a dispute between Dalits and caste Hindus over the issue of entry into the temple. In 2000, a compromise formula was evolved by Dalits, according to which both sides would perform puja in alternate weeks. It was not acceptable to the caste Hindus. Several rounds of peace meetings did not yield any positive result. So Dalits continued to offer worship from outside the temple.

    After a local court allowed them entry into the temple, Dalits started preparing for puja on September 23, 2008. But the priest who kept the temple key left the village. Although the officials promised to arrange for entry into the temple on September 29, Dalits could not do so as caste Hindus went in appeal to the Madurai Bench of the Madras High Court.

    Inaction on the issue led to untoward incidents such as stone throwing in the village. The situation reached a flashpoint with Dalits leaving the village and settling on the hillock at Karichattan hamlet close on the heels of the violence during Deepavali last year. Alleging that the issue was politicised, caste Hindus also moved over to a hillock at Yettiserry on December 12, 2008. The authorities had a tough time persuading both the sections to return to the village. Police pickets were posted in the village.

    K. GANESAN

    The Church of the Holy Sprit at Anumanthanpatti in Theni district. Dalit Christians here allege caste-based discrimination by other Christians.

    Caste Hindus boycotted the Lok Sabha elections and even said they would resume worship at the shrine only after the High Court gave its verdict. “Most of us are peasants. At no point of time we have gone to them seeking their help for survival. It is unfair on their part to deny us entry into the temple as we have made contributions to the construction of the shrine’s compound wall. Now we have appointed a Dalit to perform puja,” said I. Chelliah, (72), a Dalit farmer.

    U. Muthupandian, taluk secretary of the CPI(M), said worst forms of discrimination against Dalits persisted in Kuruvikulam block. Until recently, tea was served to them in banana leaf cups at Marudankinaru, Sayamalaivalasai and other villages. Now, as a compromise, tea stall owners have started using disposable plastic cups, he pointed out.

    The residents of Paavali in Virudhunagar district have their own tale of woe. The gates of the Kannimar alias Kamatchi Amman temple in the village have remained locked for some years now. For generations, people belonging to different castes offered prayers at the temple. The key of the temple used to be in the possession of a Dalit.

    Following a dispute raised by persons belonging to the Uravugollavar Reddiar community residing at Vilathikulam in neighbouring Thoothukudi district, the revenue authorities denied all the communities entry to the temple in 2003. The orders were withdrawn in February 2004. The High Court, in its order on February 18, 2004, closed the writ petition on the grounds that the temple was open for public worship.

    The Uravugollavar Reddiars went in appeal against the HR & CE Department’s move to bring the temple under its purview. Taking advantage of the situation, the Reddiars locked the temple, denying the local people – most of whom are Dalits – an opportunity to offer worship. They were irked by the Dalits’ opposition to their move to sell the temple land, said M. Muthukumar, a local resident and taluk secretary of the CPI(M). According to him, the village was known for communal harmony. “The unity dates back to the period of the East India Company. We have heard from our elders that the local people did not oblige the alien rulers who sought their help to capture the rebel Poligar of Panchalamkurichi, Kattabomman, and his associates. Even today, in our village, you can see the copper plate installed on a granite pillar after the hanging of Kattabomman in 1799. It carries the proclamation issued by Major Bannerman to all the poligars [administrative and military chiefs] notifying the commands of the East India Company government,” he said.

    The TNUEF launched a temple entry programme on October 5, 2007. The police and the revenue authorities prevented the activists from entering the temple, said K. Samuel Raj, district convener of the front, adding that Dalits did not want to take over the management of the temple but only wanted to assert their right to worship.

    In several villages, caste Hindus construct temples on government poromboke (unassessed) land with the help of Dalits and on completion of the work, they raised the ownership issue, he said, adding that the TNUEF’s temple entry campaign had been successful at three places: Chinnakamanpatti in Sattur taluk, Vellayapuram in Aruppukottai taluk and Pazhaya Sennalkulam in Srivilliputtur taluk. In Vellayapuram, caste Hindus had been boycotting the Narasimha Perumal temple after Dalits entered the shrine, he said.

    Although Dalits had been engaged in cleaning up the temple tanks and adjacent areas, they were not allowed to use the water for bathing in many villages, including Kalloorani and Malaipatti, he alleged.

    A. SHAIKMOHIDEEN

    Dalits squatting on the floor in a tea stall at Maruthankulam near Sankarankovil. In many villages, Dalits are denied seats in tea stalls.

    The situation was no better for Dalits who converted to Christianity at Anumanthanpatti village in Theni district. A young private schoolteacher said the converts were discriminated against. Dalit Christians were not admitted to societies run by other Christians who belonged to the Church of the Holy Spirit; the church car would not go anywhere near the Dalit colony; and Dalit Christians had a separate cemetery and an exclusive hearse, he said.

    Justifying the treatment meted out to Dalits, a retired headmaster of a local school in Anumanthanpatti said, “As Dalits belong to the labour class, they are not pious enough to deserve equal treatment.”

    Enquiries revealed that Dalits were not allowed to enter temples under the control of caste Hindus at Vannikonendal and Pillayarkulam in Tirunelveli district; Nakkalamuthanpatti in Thoothukudi district; and Melakuyilkudi, Soolapuram and Ullapatti in Madurai district.

    T. Dharmaraj, director of the Dr B.R. Ambedkar Studies Centre at St. Xavier’s College in Tirunelveli, said Dalit assertion had entered a new phase with issues being fought on political and ideological planes, eschewing murders and other forms of violence. The recent protests over the denial of entry into places of worship were a manifestation of the growing awareness among the younger generation of Dalits who have started discovering their cultural roots and reconstructing Dalit history.

    The role played by the Folklore Department of the college in creating awareness through the “Dalit Kalai Vizha” (Dalit art festival) was significant just as the “Kalai Iravu” programmes of the CPI(M) had made an impact, he said.

    Official records indicated that of the 1,545 cases registered in the State in 2008 under the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, 1989, only 58 cases resulted in conviction.

    Executive Director of Evidence A. Vincent Raj alias Kathir said the government should come forward to take stern action against those who adopted discriminatory practices against Dalits. He demanded a White Paper from the State government on the discrimination shown to Dalits at places of worship.•

    COURTESY : http://www.frontline.in/fl2615/stories/20090731261504000.htm

  118. Sukra Charya said

    Mr. Rajasekhar,
    Most certainly, Sharma-ji is not an Indian. Quite possibly a Pakistani militant. With him its always, “Kill, kill, kill”.

    • Kumarpushp said

      When north Indian dalits are fighting to get enter in the temple of education on the other in south India, hindus are making dalits ready to enter the hindu temple.dalits should not fight to enter the temple and learn from the Maharastherians dalits who donot even piss on the hindu temple.dalits should not demand for enering in temple,time has come to fight for the equal distribution of land and seprate electorate,seprate county away from the barbaric hindus.

      • ToAStupidFellow said

        time has come to fight for the equal distribution of land and seprate electorate,seprate county away from the barbaric hindus.
        —————————————————–

        So finally you admit that a seperate country is what you want.

        You cannot hide your Chumber’s Khalistan background.

        People are not fools to beleive that idiots like you genuinely care for the poor, neither do you care for the poor nor are you people social workers.

        Your dumbhead lunatic master has a terror associated background. And you are a dumber muslim and a pakistani bootlicker.

        Both you and Chumber COME TO COURT and prove your allegations against hindusim,. Your real reason is something else, religion is just an excuse.

        Chumber will be sent to a mental hospital no doubt,, but a bas***d barbaric muslim like you deserves 3rd degree punishment.

        I challenge you and your dumb master Chumber to come to court. Your Chumber blatantly lied that he filed a case in some ‘people’s parliament’. Now I challenge both of you to file a case and come to court.

  119. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Where did I threaten to kill any body ? All our dialogue is on the record !
    Mr. Shukracharya ! you adressed Mr. Rajashekar . He is a criminal who threatened to kill Mr. Chumber and confessed to me in writing in this blog that he threatened to Mr. chumber in frustration !

    The criminals blame others ! I am an Indian moderate . You are the Hindu Rastra terrorists ! is it not true ?

    Sukra Charya said
    August 1, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
    Mr. Rajasekhar,
    Most certainly, Sharma-ji is not an Indian. Quite possibly a Pakistani militant. With him its always, “Kill, kill, kill”.

  120. ANITA GUPTA said

    I studied this blog . I am very glad to know that there are two camps here . One is against the rapists , racists and fascists and the other is pro .

    Being a lady , I am interested in the rapists . The rapists are the worst ever men . Our modern society and the law of the land is against the rapists . The women especially the dalit women are worst effected .

    We must hate the rapists and their supportes . We must appreciate who are deadly against the rapists and their supporters !

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      Chumber, you sound very stupid trying to promote yourself under Anita Gupta. You have a stupid way of writing. Your language is a dead give away. Unfortunately for you, your cheap stunts never work..

      • kumarpushp said

        Ambedkar wadi donot hide their face in their wife peticoats dear name less ,first you go and ask your mother about your name.

  121. Sukra Charya said

    “One is against the rapists , racists and fascists and the other is ..”

    Sorry, we beg to differ. One side ACCUSES the other side of being “RAPIST” etc.etc. The other side only wants evidence.

    A woman does not become a “whore” – simply because a man shouts this word at her. It only shows that the man is ill-mannered. Similarly, a man does not become a rapist, simply because a person shouts this word at him.

  122. rajashekar said

    Mr.Sukracharya,

    I agree with you

    Sukra Charya said
    August 1, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
    Mr. Rajasekhar,
    Most certainly, Sharma-ji is not an Indian. Quite possibly a Pakistani militant. With him its always, “Kill, kill, kill”.

    • Kumarpushp said

      Sukracharya,Dalits are demanding seprate county ,and you are talking about seprate country means ,you donot know the meaning of county and meaning of country.

  123. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    TO KIND ATTENTION OF IRRESPONSIBLE SHUKRACHARYA AND RAJASHEKAR .

    WHERE DID I THREATEN TO KILL ANY BODY ?

    PLEASE ANSWER OR FEEL SORRY OR QUIT THE DIALOGUE .

    RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
    August 3, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
    Where did I threaten to kill any body ? All our dialogue is on the record !
    Mr. Shukracharya ! you adressed Mr. Rajashekar . He is a criminal who threatened to kill Mr. Chumber and confessed to me in writing in this blog that he threatened to Mr. chumber in frustration !

    The criminals blame others ! I am an Indian moderate . You are the Hindu Rastra terrorists ! is it not true ?

    Sukra Charya said
    August 1, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
    Mr. Rajasekhar,
    Most certainly, Sharma-ji is not an Indian. Quite possibly a Pakistani militant. With him its always, “Kill, kill, kill”.

    rajashekar said
    August 4, 2009 @ 11:04 am
    Mr.Sukracharya,

    I agree with you

    Sukra Charya said
    August 1, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
    Mr. Rajasekhar,
    Most certainly, Sharma-ji is not an Indian. Quite possibly a Pakistani militant. With him its always, “Kill, kill, kill”.

  124. ANITA GUPTA said

    WHEN THE DALITS ARE NOT TREATED AS HUMAN BEINGS BY THE HINDU SOCIETY , THEY SHOULD NOT MIX UP WITH THE HINDU SOCIETY .

    THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THE PATH OF THEIR EMANCIPATOR DR. AMBEDKAR – EDUCATE , AGITATE AND ORGANISE .

    C.L.CHUMBER said
    July 31, 2009 @ 8:44 am
    A STUDY REVEALS THAT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST DALITS AT PLACES OF WORSHIP CONTINUES MORE OR LESS UNCHANGED DESPITE VARIOUS COMPAIGNS .

    NO ENTRY
    BY
    S. DORAIRAJ
    in Chennai

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      lol 😀 now chumber has started shouting in caps under the name of anita gupta.

  125. ANITA GUPTA said

    A DALIT GIRL WAS NAKED AND BEATEN ON THE ACCUSATION OF ENTRY A HINDU TEMPLE .

    To-day, I read a tragic news released by the U.N.I. from Dehradoon . The headline of this news is ” A DALIT GIRL WAS NAKED AND BEATEN ON THE ACCUSATION OF ENTRY A HINDU TEMPLE .”

    A according to Mr. Mohan Singh , Sub Divisional Magistrate ( S.D.M. ) , Dehradoon ( Utrrakhand ) that a dalit girl went to worship on the Raksha Bandan Festival in a famos Hanol Hindu Temple near Dehradoon . The girl was standing on the place reserved for the dalits in the temple . In the meantime , the crowd in the temple pushed that dalit girl .This annoyed the Hindu priests and they torned her the whole clothes on her body , beaten bitterily and they also abused her for her caste .

    There is a tense in the area and the police deployed . I condemn this incident which reflects that the Hindu mind is still Manuwadi Mind . It must be operated and replaced by the constitutional mind .

    I again repeat my question for the dalit society ,” WHEN THE DALITS ARE NOT TREATED AS HUMAN BEINGS BY THE HINDU SOCIETY , THEY SHOULD NOT MIX UP WITH THE HINDU SOCIETY . ”

    ANITA GUPTA said
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    August 5, 2009 @ 1:35 pm
    WHEN THE DALITS ARE NOT TREATED AS HUMAN BEINGS BY THE HINDU SOCIETY , THEY SHOULD NOT MIX UP WITH THE HINDU SOCIETY .

    THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THE PATH OF THEIR EMANCIPATOR DR. AMBEDKAR – EDUCATE , AGITATE AND ORGANISE .

    C.L.CHUMBER said
    July 31, 2009 @ 8:44 am
    A STUDY REVEALS THAT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST DALITS AT PLACES OF WORSHIP CONTINUES MORE OR LESS UNCHANGED DESPITE VARIOUS COMPAIGNS .

    NO ENTRY
    BY
    S. DORAIRAJ
    in Chennai

    • Sukra Charya said

      “A DALIT GIRL WAS NAKED..”

      Yes, the report is by All India Christian Council. (Missionary Dollars at work?). Can we have some non-religious body confirm this?

  126. DUKHI INDIA said

    A stupid fellow has no name and brain . He is abusing others . I think that he is a mental . The blog should not flash his abusive writings .

    ToAStupidFellow said
    August 6, 2009 @ 1:37 am

    • ToAStupidFellow said

      Chumber@Dukhi India@Anita Gupta@Ram Karishan Sharma,

      Come to court and prove you are not a mad fellow. If you have a brain, GO FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW. I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE ALL YOUR ALLEGATIONS IN COURT.

      Lavanya @ hh @ tn

    • Sukra Charya said

      Cannot really blame him! He is only RE-ACTING to something that was said before.

  127. hpushkar said

    The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution.

    nicely summed up .
    thanks for post.

    Hridayesh Premvati Pushkar
    IIIT Allahabad.
    B tech 3rd year.

    • Sukra Charya said

      “The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution”.

      Mr.hpushkar,
      I am curious. The Cultural Revolution in China killed about 25 MILLION Chinese. It was to all purposes, a complete failure. What do you think the cultural revolution will achieve?

      You also mentioned “reform through state legislation”. Exactly, what part of legislation do you want to change?

    • kumarpushp said

      dalits are suffering in India since 3000 years.India got independence in 1947 but 175 million dalits are still awaiting freedom.

      • Sukra Charya said

        Are you saying that Dr.Ambedkar did not do a good job, when he was writing the constitution?

      • Sukra Charya said

        “..175 million dalits are still awaiting freedom….”.

        Which particular freedom have they been denied?

      • KUMARPUSHP said

        Seprate settlement away from barbaric hindus is the only answer means freedom.

  128. C . L . CHUMBER said

    DEAR KUMARPUSHAP ,
    THESE BLOODYFOOL ABUSERS HAVING NO NAMES UNDERSTAND YOUR LANGUAGE .

    kumarpushp said
    August 7, 2009 @ 1:48 pm
    Ambedkar wadi donot hide their face in their wife peticoats dear name less ,first you go and ask your mother about your name.

  129. RAMA KARISHNA SHARMA said

    M/s Shukracharya and Rajashekar died ethically that is why they did not reply my question .

    RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
    August 5, 2009 @ 12:40 pm
    TO KIND ATTENTION OF IRRESPONSIBLE SHUKRACHARYA AND RAJASHEKAR .

    WHERE DID I THREATEN TO KILL ANY BODY ?

    PLEASE ANSWER OR FEEL SORRY OR QUIT THE DIALOGUE .

    • Sukra Charya said

      Do you not endorse Chumber’s views?
      ————–
      RAM KRISHAN SHARMA said
      April 28, 2009 @ 6:42 am
      I endorse fully the views of Mr. Chumber ..
      —————

  130. ANITA GUPTA said

    The U.N.I. means the United News of India and the police registered case against the priests . There was no mention of the All India Christian Council. . Do not create nuisance .

    Sukra Charya said
    August 11, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

    “A DALIT GIRL WAS NAKED..”

    Yes, the report is by All India Christian Council. (Missionary Dollars at work?). Can we have some non-religious body confirm this?

  131. Sukra Charya said

    Two things:
    1. When asked to provide evidence – provide it. Tell us the newspaper, so that some one else can verify it. What’s your problem?

    2. Secondly, newspaper reports are often wrong. They will write anything, if it helps to sell. If a woman paraded in the streets naked, journalists will rush and publish her photograph. (She does not have to be fully naked either).

  132. ANITA GUPTA said

    Mr. Sukracharya ,
    Before this , you created nuisance by writing ,” Yes, the report is by All India Christian Council. (Missionary Dollars at work?). Can we have some non-religious body confirm this? ( Sukra Charya said August 11, 2009 @ 2:43 pm ) without any proof .

    Then I clarified , ” The U.N.I. means the United News of India and the police registered case against the priests . There was no mention of the All India Christian Council. . Do not create nuisance .” ( ANITA GUPTA said August 17, 2009 @ 10:52 am ) .

    But you did not feel sorry ! I had written the the name of the hindu tepmle , location and SDM`s name in details . The supporters of rapist gods can create only nuisances .

    It is shameful for you . I strongly condemn your inhuman being behaviour .

    Sukra Charya said
    August 20, 2009 @ 4:42 pm

    Two things:
    1. When asked to provide evidence – provide it. Tell us the newspaper, so that some one else can verify it. What’s your problem?

    2. Secondly, newspaper reports are often wrong. They will write anything, if it helps to sell. If a woman paraded in the streets naked, journalists will rush and publish her photograph. (She does not have to be fully naked either).

  133. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT FOR DIALOGUE . THEY ARE EXCELLENT ABUSERS . THEY EVEN KEPT DICTIONARY OF ABUSES .
    THE MANY TIMES DID NOT REPLY .

    I AM ASTONISHED THAT THEY STILL NOT ABUSED AND BLAMED YOU . I THINK THAT THEY SPARED YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE VAISH BY NAME .

    ANITA GUPTA said
    August 22, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

    Mr. Sukracharya ,
    Before this , you created nuisance by writing

  134. C.L.CHUMBER said

    BJP`S PARTNER JD ( U ) ALSO DISAPPROVED BAN ON MR. JASWANT SINGH`S BOOK .

    JD(U) disapproves of ban on Jaswant’s book

    New Delhi, August 24
    Terming Jaswant Singh’s expulsion as BJP’s “internal matter”, NDA ally JD(U) today said it disapproved of banning of his controversial book on Pakistan founder Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

    Speaking to mediapersons here, JD(U) president Sharad Yadav said: “We are an ally of BJP and it (Jaswant Singh’s expulsion) is an internal matter of that party. They run their own party, we mind our own affairs.”

    Asked to comment on the ban imposed by Gujarat government on Jaswant Singh’s book ‘Jinnah: India, Partition, Independence’, Yadav said: “I don’t want to talk about any individual state government. In a democracy, there should not be a ban on any kind of writing, speech and expression. I don’t approve of the ban.”

    When pressed further to comment on whether he approves the content of Singh’s book, Yadav said: “Who am I to make judgements… can all of us agree or disagree on contents of each and every book? But I am not in favour of any kind of ban. There are so many books that have been written on partition.” — PTI

    Courtesy : http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090825/nation.htm

  135. C.L.CHUMBER said

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  136. C.L.CHUMBER said

    # Judge’s assets on the web New!
    Courtesy : http://www.hindu.com/

  137. C.L.CHUMBER said

    THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR EVER TO THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
    ***************************************************************************

    TO THE MEMBERS OF THE HAPPY HINDU NON-SENSE VAIDIK ABUSER CLUB !

    I AS WELL AS THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com ARE READY TO PUT OVER CASE IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT .

    YOU ARE THREATENING US FOR THE LAST ONE YEAR BUT YOU NEVER FILED CASE IN THE COURT .

    YOU SO MANY TIMES WROTE THAT YOU DID NOT HONOUR THE SUPREME COURT`S JUDGEMENT ON ” IDIOT ” .

    FIRST OF ALL , THE COURT WILL ASK YOU AND WILL SEND YOU IN THE JAIL FOR DISOBEYING THE SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT .

    PLEASE DO NOT BARK BY ABUSING US FREEQUENTLY . WHENEVER WE WILL MEET IN THE COURT PREMISES , THE PEOPLE WILL DEFACE YOU AS YOU WROTE THAT VALMIKI , AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS WITHOUT ANY PROOF .

    WE ARE READY FOR LEGAL BATTLE !

    • hh said

      You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.

      You deal with Sanjam’s words seperately. Do not link me with him.

      You are the one who lied that you filed some case in people’s parliament 😀 All you have done is to keep lying so far.

      Now you just provide the following details, we will file a case :

      1) Your full name
      2) Your date of birth
      3) Voter’id card number
      4) PAN number
      5) Residential address
      6) Occupation and office address
      7) Names of family members
      8 ) Your annual income tax returns and proof of funding sources.

      Just provide the details instead of talking, deviating and misleading. The rest will be handled in court.

      You sure cannot deny your khalistan links. Talk all that you want to talk in court. You will certainly be tried under TADA charges and sent to jail.

  138. ANITA GUPTA said

    Dear Mr. Chumber ,
    I appreciate you and the M/s https://dalitnation.wordpress.com for a missionary fight against the evils and evil persons in every field . I liked your daring challenge as below :
    THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR EVER TO THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!

    We are with you all who fight for human rights and human dignity .

  139. RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said

    Mr. Happy Hindu is disturbing the debate by useless issues . He must quit or take part in the debate seriously .

    hh said
    September 16, 2009 @ 2:49 am

    You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.

    • hh said

      Its none of your business to interefere in between Chumber and me. So you can simply seal your lips and stand aside and watch.

  140. Prof T B Vijayakumar said

    white tiger is a stupid novel. It is in and out anti Dalit.
    Written out of Brahmin fear, that Dalits will emerge as rulers of this country in the near future. Dalits should throw this nasty work into Arabian Sea.

  141. C . L . CHUMBER said

    MR HAPPY HINDU ,
    ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSSINESS TO INTERFERE IN BETWEEN DALIP MURLIDHARAN AND ME . SO YOU CAN SIMPLY SEAL YOUR LIPS AND STAND ASIDE AND WATCH .

    Dilip Muralidaran said
    September 17, 2009 @ 11:33 am
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/aishwarya-rai-a-victim-of-brahmin-conspiracy/#comment-7940

    hh said
    September 28, 2009 @ 7:47 am

    Its none of your business to interefere in between Chumber and me. So you can simply seal your lips and stand aside and watch.
    https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/not-white-tiger-but-the-black-panther-of-dalits-for-india/

  142. Modgalya Kumar said

    This is a warning sent by a great Dalit intellectual Bhante Rahula to VTR on the latest editorial in Dalit Voice titled ‘SARASWATI KICKED OUT IN OUR CRAZE FOR LAKSHMI’ – http://www.dalitvoice.org/Templates/oct2009/editorial.htm

    Please circulate this to all our Dalit Brethren.

    E-Mail Sent on Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 14:02:49 (IST)
    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Bhante Rahula
    Email: rahula@ambedkar.org
    Profession: Dalit Intellectual
    Address: Dombvili
    City: Mumbai
    Country: India
    Message: Dear VTR, The latest issue of Dalit Voice has caused a lot of heart burn for the Dalit movement in India. The whole dalit community in India are now suspecting that you are soft peddling Hinduism. You have mentioned that Saraswathi is being sidelined for Lakshmi. Why are you using Hindu imagery and godesses. This is the way Hindus have enslaved everyone. They even say 65% of Americans beleive in Karma, Reincarnation and Self Help. All hindu concepts. We are now wondering what happened to Dalit voice talking about Lakshmi and saraswathi. Did not Babasaheb in his conversion oath ask us not to mention or pray to Hindu gods and godesses. Now you want us to pray to Saraswathi. BTW Hindutva Nazis say Buddhists in Japan also worship Saraswathi and call her Benzantai. Hindu tentacles are spread far and wide. As a dalit intellectual I request you not to publish such Hindu stuff in your great magazine. The whole Dalit community in India has now reacted against it. How do I know. I know because the whole Dalit community of India has told me that and they are suspecting your allegience to the Dalit cause. We Dalits had accepted you even though you were upper caste Bunt and not a Dalit. Don’t play around with our emotions. I am warning you in nice terms since I am an Intellectual and not an Activist. I just think and give great Ideas to Dalit Movement. But if our activist Brothers take this up against you, it will not be in the nice terms that an intellectual like me uses. So this is a forewarning. You should now apologize to the Dalit Community for using the names of Hindu gods and godesses. We don’t want to go back to Hinduism and caste system again. Having escaped caste system we are breathing free now. Now you don’t do any mischief which will bring us to caste system. Because the moment we accept this lakshmi saraswathi nonsense, the Hindu Bramins will pust us back into caste system and will degrade us as antyajas. You are doing a great disservice to Babasaheb. I am asking you to publish your Apology in the next issue of Dalit Voice. Or else it is my duty as a Dalit Intellectual to ask all the Dalits to ban Dalit Voice. Jai Bheem Bhante Rahula Dalit Intellectual
    Findhow: Referred by Friend
    Findwhich: Anand Teltumbude

  143. C . L . CHUMBER said

    Modgalya Kumar ( said October 15, 2009 @ 7:38 am ) circulated a warning sent by a great Dalit intellectual Bhante Rahula to VTR on the latest editorial in Dalit Voice , Bangalore ( Oct 1st – 15th 2009 ) titled ‘SARASWATI KICKED OUT IN OUR CRAZE FOR LAKSHMI’ . I reproduce Mr. VTR`s editorial so the viwers may comparison and make their views accordingly . I will comment later on .
    *************
    Editorial
    SARASWATI KICKED OUT IN OUR CRAZE FOR LAKSHMI

    How can we end corruption & exploitation when Hindu values worship the filthy rich?
    Every society, every country in the world is governed by its value system. And the values come from our religions. The Western values are governed by its Christian religion, the Muslim values from Islam and in the East particularly China it is the Budhism that set the values.

    That is how the West has made tremendous progress not only in science and technology but also in liberal thoughts, literature, philosophy, social sciences etc.

    The progress achieved by the West is so evident from the big rush of Indian students to Western universities and later settling down there itself for jobs, cursing India. All rich upper castes love to live and even settle down in the West, particularly the US and say they hate everything Indian.

    China replacing Japan: In the East, China is poised to become the world’s No.1 country in a couple of years. It is expected to replace Japan as the No.2 world economy in another year.

    All the Eastern countries like Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and even the little Vietnam, completely wrecked in the American bombing raids, are surpassing India in all spheres.

    Why every other country in the world is soaring to new heights while the ancient India, the second most populous country in the world (1,200 millions), is languishing and limping?

    Values come from religion: There is no mystery in this. The answer lies in our value system. And to repeat, the values come from the religion. Unfortunately our values are set by the religion of Hinduism that governs us. Defenders of Hinduism may quote from a stray sentence here and there to contradict us but there is no Hindu religious institution in India or even outside which does not roll in wealth.

    During the remote past of Indus Valley Civilization of the Harappa and Mohenjadaro glory, it was a flouring system which the invading Aryan-Brahminical marauders destroyed.

    The oppression let loose by the Brahmins produced the country’s greatest spiritual philosopher, the Budha, who fought the Brahmins and launched the golden period of Indian history.

    The Brahmins infiltrated Budhism and fought the Budha’s Dhamma both from within and without and injected their spiritual poison which caused our steep fall and deep decline.

    Manu & Chanakya : History records all the barbarous values that were injected into our veins by the Manu Dharma Shastra and Chanakya’s Arthasastra — the two guiding Brahminical spiritual poison that set our values.

    Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, the Father of India, has exhaustively dealt with all these subjects in his voluminous writings and speeches. And hence no need for repetition.

    M.K. Gandhi, the humbug who roamed in the guise of a sanyasi, injected all the dangerous Brahminical values into our veins. It is these values that make us think that Gandhi is a Mahatma. As long as the country goes on calling him a Mahatma we will continue to be steeped in the Brahminic poisonous values.

    DV family members need no further elaboration.

    This has direct bearing on each and every action of our society. The governance of a society right from its President, Prime Minister, Parliament, every wing of the society — political party system, bureaucracy, judiciary, defence, education, textbooks, media, commerce and industry, art and literature, health system, business, sports etc. — all these are governed by the Hindu spiritual poison injected into our blood.

    Hindu spiritual values: That is how all of us are feeling helpless, unable to fight back the poisonous values injected into the veins of our forefathers and even to us today. And our children tomorrow.

    Why we all feel so helpless because we are governed by a set of values which are governed by the “Hindu spiritualism”.

    The most striking feature of this Hindu value system makes us think that wealth brings prestige, position, happiness and recognition. This is the most dangerous value which is killing this country.

    Because there is a desperate competition among our people even down to our youth to “somehow” become rich — beg, borrow or steal— even kill. Your parents, teachers, friends, neighbours and even the girl whom you want to marry love the rich, admire the rich. There is a country-wide craze to get rich quick.

    India’s rank falling: But how can you become rich in a country which is dirt poor? Enough statistics are before us. If you have the eyes you can see them.

    Out of about 200 countries in the world in the UN, India’s rank is about 120. And it is steadily going down. Every small country surrounding the giant India has jumped ahead of us. But we are slipping down and down — hitting the rock bottom.

    Yet we go on shamelessly claiming the Security Council seat, posing as “India Shining”. But the fact is India is a failed state. All the biggest cities — where our highest educated Hindus live and call themselves the leaders of all thought and action— are turning into slums. Yes.

    Indian money in Swiss banks: But the fact is India is not a poor country. It is a rich country deliberately kept poor. This is the fact.

    According to C.L. Narasimhan, a financial wizard and a Brahmin who writes for the country’s premier Brahmin English daily, the Hindu, the Indian money kept in Swiss banks is estimated between Rs. 30 lakh crores and Rs. 70 lakh crores. (Hindu Sept.7, 2009).

    Another Brahmin authority, Vaidyanathan, whom he quotes says: “Over the 60 years since independence, the country could have lost as much as 1.5 trillion dollars”.

    Even poorest Indian loves the rich: During the recent Parliament election, BJP leader Advani asked the govt. to get the list of Indians holding secret accounts in Swiss and other “tax heavens” and confiscate the money. ­Wah-wah. The ruling class laughed at the suggestion. Our Khatri Sick PM made a pretense of discussing the subject. Now within months everything is forgotten. Why? Because our value system not only protects the filthy rich but honours them. The Congress Party, BJP and all other parties gave election ticket only to the richest candidates because money can buy votes. Even the poorest of the poor — victim of the system — loves the rich and sells his votes. This is India. That is how Hindu India has never seen a revolution. “Class struggle” can never take place in Hindu India.

    Tirupati temple loves only the rich: What does it mean? The country has lots of fabulously rich people. Millionaires, billionaires, multi-multi crorepatis. India has much richer people than the richest in Britain. The Times of India, the English daily of the Brahminical elite, regularly publishes the list of such billionaires because they command a high respect in our society.

    In the country’s richest temple at Tirupati, the one who offers the largest amount of money gets the highest amount of punya.

    The Ambanis, who pay no taxes, command the greatest respect in India. They can simply walk into the Prime Minister’s office any time. The Brahmin priests of this “holy temple” even carry their god’s idols to the houses of the Ambanis for puja. Ridiculous.

    To repeat, Hindu India respects the filthy rich. The god loves them, newspapers give them maximum coverage. Nobody asks how the Ambanis have made money. God (TV) channels are a roaring success. What a country we have built.

    Who made us to bum-lick the filthy rich? Our religious values.

    China hates the rich: Look at the contrast in China. The world-famous Economist in its latest issue (Sept.5, 2009, p.68) reports that those who hit the richest persons list in China are immediately arrested and put on trial. Those magazines specialising in publishing the richest persons list are the Forbes and Harun Rich List. The anti-communist Economist says:

    “Wealth in China is intextricably tied to crime and corruption”.

    China’s tycoons always get into trouble. One who appeared in the Forbes list last year disappeared and subsequently arrested, it said.

    That is how China went up and Hindu India collapsed.

    In other words, the Chinese value system makes the people hate the rich and in contrast our Hindu value system makes us admire the rascals.

    We say the Ambanis became rich by their “hard work” while the fact known to all those who matter including the media is they pay no taxes and thrive by bribing the Prime Minister directly. The Finance Ministry is in their pocket. Who can touch them?

    Bal Thackeray’s riches: Look at the Shiv Sena thug Bal Thackeray. He was an ordinary journalist like us in a Bombay English daily in the 1960s. How did he become the boss of at least Rs. 1,000 crores? May be more. And commands such a big following that the police dare not touch him?

    There is not even a single rich man in India who has not acquired wealth through fair means. In such a dirt poor country how can any honest person become rich?

    Laxmi Puja: When our value system itself is corrupt, poisonous, naturally it makes us admire and worship the filthy rich. The “goddess of wealth” Laxmi ,gets precedence over the goddess of learning, Saraswati, flung into the filthy gutter and crying for our attention.

    Teachers, who in any society draw the highest respect, an unwanted profession, hated, maligned and ridiculed. No girl is ready to marry a teacher. What a fall.

    This is the Hindu India gone to gutters —stinking in filth. Who can save it?

    India under counter-revolution: There is no short-cut to solve the problem we face — except a wholesale destruction of our values which in other words means ending the hold of Brahminism (Hinduism).

    Who is ready to kill the golden cow that yields the perennial milk all through the year? We are rather prepared to cut our own head than discard this Kamadhenu. And without mercilessly slaughtering this Kamadhenu, there is no short-cut.

    In other words: Revolution. But we are caught in a whirlpool of counter-revolutions.

    Budha had done it. Babasaheb had shown it. Guru Ravidas, Mahatma Phule, Periyar EVR, all the revolutionaries of India, had recommended the same surgical operation of socio-cultural revolution.

    But we did not agree. And that is why we suffer, rot and perish. People get the society they deserve.
    Courtesy : http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=dalitnation.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dalitvoice.org%2FTemplates%2Foct2009%2Feditorial.htm

  144. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  145. Dear viewers ,
    I returned my home after almost tree weeks from Maharashtra . During this I visited Nashik twice to study Dr. Ambedkar`s Kala Ram Temple entry movement.. Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia , another revolutionary did not claimed to be a Hindu himself . That is why he never started like these movements.He advised his people that neither we were Hindus nor we want to waste our energy on these issues .The people liked his ideas .That is why the Punjabi aboriginals developed themselves as a separate element like other religious societies since 11-12 June , 1926 .

    Although Dr. Ambedkar claimed to the Simmon Commission , in the Round Table Conferences and in his book ‘ What Congress and Gandhi have done to the untouchables ‘ and in the memorandum to the Constituent Assembly that the Untouchables / SCs are not Hindus yet he admitted in his Yeola Conference announcement , in his book ‘ Who were the Shudras ‘ and ‘ Who were the Untouchables ‘ and in the constitution that he himself and the Untouchables / SCs were the Hindus .
    These flickering stands created zig zags in the SCs’ politics and minds . NOW THE BAHUJANS / ABORIGINAL INDIANS HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OF THE TWO PATHS . FIRST PATH TO CREATE THEIR OWN SEPARATE SOCIO-RELIGIOUS IDENTITY LIKE BABA MUGGOWALIA`S ADI-DHARAM ( http://WWW.AMBEDKARTIMES.COM ) . SECOND PATH TO CONVERT THEMSELVES TO OTHER RELIGIONS AS BEFORE .BY CONVERSION , WE DIVIDED THEMSELVES INTO HINDUS , SIKHS , BUDDHISTS , MUSLIMS , CHRISTIANS ETC.

    At last , I am to say to the esteemed https://dalitnation.wordpress.com that the people who have fake identity must be debarred if they want https://dalitnation.wordpress.com to be popular among the right minded people .

    Chutiya Chumber said
    November 16, 2009 @ 8:00 am
    Why is peacock national bird and not crow when crows are more in abundance?

  146. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  147. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  148. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  149. […] Novels like these should be shunned by Dalits as they deny our heritage and demonize our people. The ‘White Tiger’ is neither empowering nor can it emancipate Dalits. In short it is just a piece of junk written by an upper caste Brahmin. This piece of junk is given some Booker or Hooker prize and the upper caste readers read these kinds of novels thinking that this is the Dalit condition and they can rest in peace. The aim of Dalits is social reform through state legislation and cultural revolution. But how can a shameless pseudo intellectual scumbag Arvind Adiga understand this. All they are interested in is the Hooker prize and international readership. We dalits do not need India to be the ‘White Tiger’ we will convert it into the ‘Black Panther’. Arvind Adiga – Not White Tiger but the Black Panther […]

  150. An indian said

    It is very unfortunate that the reviewer reviewed the book considering the caste of the author.

  151. Shyam said

    true… not sure who said this, but it still rings true: Corruption never has been compulsory.

  152. Shame on u Adiga..
    What nonsense book u have written.. WHITE TIGER IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BOOKER AWARD..
    ADIGA PLZ READ DR.AMBEDKAR WRITINGS N SPEECHES & RAMAYANA VISHAVRUKSHAM BOOKS..
    Jai bhim..

  153. ashok nanda said

    Aravind Adiga is a chutiya who is trying to sell poverty of north india to make moolah !!! his southern bangalore is the place for salvation !!! aaja mera choos…

  154. kiran viswa said

    what is meant by dalit and brahmin.dalit are getting reservations but brahmins are not even some brahmins are suffering what about kashmiri pandits

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