300 Ramayanas – Dalits dont need any of those

A K Ramanujam, iyengari brahmin from mysore wrote an essay about the 300 different versions of the ramayana. He proved to the world that the brahmin ramayana of valmiki is not the only version. There are several other versions including some oral narratives of tribes who are dalits. The manuwadis are now concerned becauses they only want one version of ramayana. A ramayana where rama killed the dalit shambuka, just because he recited the rotten vedas. Manuwadis got the ramayana essay banned from delhi university.
We at dalitnation always say throw ramayana to the dustbin. It is a bunch of castesist trash which is the bane of indian soceity. We should even throw all the 300 different versions of ramayana to the dustbins. Why should students in the university study this casteist text. Make babasaheb’s book ‘riddles in hinduism’ as mandatory reading in university. Down with ramayana including the iyengari’s essay.

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  1. ijswamy said

    The greatness of Ramayan is such that Dalits also want to read it.Shambuk is a fictious character much like Ekalawya.

  2. The institution of religion in India is nothing but an instrument of suppression of the so called lower castes. A religion which cements itself on the premises of inequality among people would inevitably have a literature which does nothing else but legitimizing the authority of Brahmans over the working class on the basis of ‘purity’ and knowledge.
    No matter how many Ramayanas exist, all that matters is that who’s children are begging in streets just because they were not allowed to change the profession of their father.

    • ijswamy said

      Working class is supervised by intellectually thinking superior Brahmin caste.

    • rationalist said

      You cannot blame anyone for not allowing anyone’s son to change the profession of their father. No one has ever had right to stop anyone from changing his profession.

      Rights are not given, they are taken!

      Its you alone who decides what you want to do. Stop blaming others for not letting anyone change his father’s profession!!

      • i j swamy said

        Dr.B.R.Ambedkar`s pious constitution left present Bahujans divided .Bahujans now demand sub classification and proportionate “reservations”.Even today inter marriage and same table dining among several bahujan castes is prohibited .

    • Avinash said

      reservation has been given so that they can change fathers profession……but again what i see it is the elite dalits who do not need it end up using it!…..and please stop being jealous of the Brahmins and stop spreading hatred against them

    • Stupid Dalit said

      there was no institutionalized hinduism in the past. never in india. institutialization is a western model. its only a new age thing which people are trying to set up because india is being broken into pieces by the western religious forces and the internal fragmentation because of stupid dalits who repel against their own nation.

  3. youareaba***rd said

    If what brahmins did long ago in the stone age was oppression what are you guys doing NOW in the present age !!! You have reservations everywhere. You are encouraging dilution in the education system government respectable positions everywhere !! People who deserve better are not getting admissions into good academic institutions because of reservations !! And if you guys are so noble why condemn another caste ?? So if you are trying to put down another caste even that is supression and Ramayan is all about the good winning over the evil not about caste !! Its you narrow minded people who only bring up castism in every topic under the sun !! its the 21st century !! Nobody cares about the caste except for some narrow minded jobless people like you and the corrupt politicians of course who will do anything for ” THE SEAT” Stop trying to act like morons condemning the Brahmins in every post of yours !! Grow up and get a life !! Yes I agree there was opression !!! You guys are enjoying reservations for a long enough time !! Reservations should be for the financially backward people !! Not dalits !! So stop trying to revenge the brahmins and get a life !! Stop acting like cheap minded people !! Doing such ugly stuff will only put your own caste down and not the brahmins !! Its ridiculous !! This whole thing should be banned for the good of the entire nation !! Its because there were a few monsters like you back then in the Brahmin community that there was opressioin !!Now you are born as the same monster in the dalit community and trying to opress the Brahmins !! Its not the caste that promotes opression its the people like you !! I wish monsters like you were the victims of 9/11 instead of the innocent people..atleast there would be a chance for peace in this country !! Why dont you ever talk about opression of Brahmins everywhere !! They are the only community who has no reservations !! When everybody is given admissions in the same school why should anyone get any reservation !! So not getting favours from ANYWHERE isn’t opression ?? You have already been given enough reservations and favour anywhere !! Education and jobs should be for DESERVING people from all castes. If we should treat dalits equally then there should be no reservations !! Fight for equality there also if you are so noble !! NO ! you want all the reservations and favours from everywhere and still want to ocndemn whoever you want to !! Nobody can win a legal case against a dalit..so this is supression against other castes !! After all this you have the nerve to post such comments !! Shame on you !!!

    • i j swamy said

      This unending discussion proves “BRAHMIN SUPREMACY”.

    • poornima said

      im a ‘brahmin’ by birth and i extend my support to all my dalit friends..infact i dont like addressing u as dalits. i dont feel i belong to seperate identity from u…i want u all to ignore the bullshit by the caste hindus here ..there is no such thing as oppressed brahmins…there are only oppressed people…i implore you all to be brave, have pride in ure roots and make the best out of the opportunities that arent charities but the countrys duty towards u…i implore you all to keep ure caste proudly attached to ure names and prove to the world what ure capable of

  4. sandeep khatri said

    Just burn all the bloody brahmanic books including Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabharata and most of all the Brahmins.

    • i j swamy said

      DMK just did that as a vote catching device but the DMK top brass is in jail now. Jail soon to Mayawati

  5. venu gopal said

    Why hate Ramayana. Why would brahman like to deify Rama???. Rama has been mentioned in the vedas and puranas an Avatar hence deified. Valmiki Ramayan is the most authentic and the best Ramayana since the events have been recorded as it is. As for Shambuka from Uttara Kaand. Uttara kaand is an interpolated Kanda hence can’t be taken into account.
    For more information see
    http://www.valmikiramayan.net/

    • RKJ said

      what a joke people cursing Valmiki for Ramayan and there is acast Valmiki which is OBC/SC. How come group of Valmiki became OBC? Similarly i wonder how Kurmi supposedly follower of Kurma (2nd incarnation of Vishnu), Mauryas – descendant of Chandragupt Maurya and many others belonging to ruler clans became OBC/dalit?
      Can anyone throw some light

  6. Avinash said

    well guys…..i dont see why u people are demonizing the brahmins(like all they have done is suppress the masses)….n let me assure you, Hinduism if followed in the right way, is a way of life, not religion, differences among people have always existed,on the basis of color,caste,etc…but criticizing a certain group is not the answer….especially the brahmins who have contributed significantly towards the Indian growth story

    • i j swamy said

      Superior Brahmins like Jawaharlal Nehru permitted Ambedkar to head the drafting committee of the constituent assembly . Jawaharlal after being widowed never married and gave the utmost respectable place to Kamala Nehru . Ambedkar hurried to marry a Brahmin woman as his second wife. Ambedkar and his followers owe a lot to Brahmins for their survival.

      • poornima said

        jawaharlal is a womaniser…atleast ambedkar married the woman like a decent chap would

      • Raju said

        Dude. Chacha Nehru was banging Edwina Mountbatten when millions were killed during partition. He was an ace womaniser who finally died of some sexually transmitted disease.

  7. S S Prasad said

    Ramnuan’s essay desrves to be banned. Ramanujan wants to take away the credit of writing original Ramayan by Valmiki. This reflects the castiest mindset, which can not digest that a dalit Valmiki should get place of reverence among caste Hindus. There may be reasons to argue against Valmiki Ramayan for some descriptions by him here and there, but this does not give licence to others to discredit him.

  8. We must read and understand the Sanskirit ‘ s ancient literature which was banned for the Adi-Bahujans since centuries . Swami Achhutanand (06.05.1879-22.07.1933) and Adi-Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia (14.01.1886-22.04.1980) read these Sanskrit literature ‘s translated versions and found our heroes and they awakened our people by writting books before 1930 A.D. in Hindi and Punjabi respectively . Later Dr. Ambedkar (14.04.1991-06.12.1956) also awakened the masses by writting the Riddles of Hinduism published posthumously . Hence we should read and understand this ancient literature to find our ancient heroes who fought against the Indo Aryans instead of throwing in the dust bin (s) . Dr. Ambedkar claimed in the parliament that the Ramayna by Adi-Bhagwan Valmiki and the Mahabharat by Adi-Bhagwan Ved Vyas were written by the shudras / Adi-Bahujans and he ashamed the Hindus in the same speech that then the Indian Constitution was also written by him . Hence we should refer to these scriptures to expose the Hindu Gods how they were the rapists , racists and fascists ! ! !

    • i j swamy said

      Dalits can learn Sanskrit later. Many languages spoken by Bahujans don`t have a script . Great Brahmins like Gidugu Ramamurty and Kandukuri Veereshalingam worked foa script. Potti Sreeramulu of upper caste went on a hunger strike with a demand that dalits must be allowed into temples.

  9. The Indo Aryans now claim that the Valmiki Ramayna ‘ s first and last Uttar Kand chapter were later added as the first chapter confirms that Dashrath was impotent and Sharingi Rishi was brought to have sexual intercourse with Ram , Bharat and Laxman ‘ s mothers to make pregnant to gave births to Ram , Bharat , Laxman and Shatrugan . Hence Ram and his brothers were not sons of Dashrath ! The last chapter tells us that Ram as a cruel King and a cruel husband banished and divorced innocent and pious Sita which let down his image in the eyes of the feminists ! Second , he as a cruel king killed innocent and pious Adi-Bahujan Bhagwan Shambuk which also let down him in the eyes of the humanitarians . How do the Ramwadis come know about the Ram Rajya without this last chapter of the Valmiki Ramayna ?

  10. The Gita declared the women (of all religions , castes and varnas ) , Shudras ( SCs , STs , OBCs ) and Vaish are of ‘papi yoni ‘ origion ! But our constitution gives us equal status to one and all . Hence the Gita is a book against the constitution . It must be banned by the govt. , otherwise the feminists , Vaish and SCs ,STs and OBCs will be compelled to burn it publically to show their resentment !

  11. We must read and understand the Sanskirit ‘ s ancient literature which was banned for the Adi-Bahujans since centuries . Swami Achhutanand (06.05.1879-22.07.1933) and Adi-Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia (14.01.1886-22.04.1980) read these Sanskrit literature ‘s translated versions and found our heroes and they awakened our people by writting books before 1930 A.D. in Hindi and Punjabi respectively . Later Dr. Ambedkar (14.04.1991-06.12.1956) also awakened the masses by writting the Riddles of Hinduism published posthumously . Hence we should read and understand this ancient literature to find our ancient heroes who fought against the Indo Aryans instead of throwing in the dust bin (s) . Dr. Ambedkar claimed in the parliament that the Ramayna by Adi-Bhagwan Valmiki and the Mahabharat by Adi-Bhagwan Ved Vyas were written by the shudras / Adi-Bahujans and he ashamed the Hindus in the same speech that then the Indian Constitution was also written by him . Hence we should refer to these scriptures to expose the Hindu Gods how they were the rapists , racists and fascists ! ! !

  12. Civan said

    The Arthvans and Rateshvars, later also known as Brahmins and Ksyatrias have Destroyed our Harappana civalisation! and they also heve Destroy Dasyustan (the coutry of the original Dasyus!). Their racist VEDA books are speaking about a genocidial killing war agains our Shishna Deva poeples!. watch http://www.civanharappana.com on google?. on the left site of my page you can read more informations about the genocidial Brahmins! With greetings from Civan Harappana world,s hardest truth! Please can you send my some pictures of original black Dashus? for my world wide webpage! to protect the black Aboriginal Indian poeples. Dear greetings and blessing from Civan Harappana! world,s hardest truth!

  13. maharashtrian said

    These perverts have no balls to hate or condemn the satanic verses.

  14. My dear friend, Lord Shri Rama was not a Brahmin, he was a Kshatriya. Sage Valmiki who wrote Ramayana was not a Brahmin. He was a Shudra from Hunter community – who becomes Brahmin because of his austerities. Thus Brahmin is not usually by birth, but something attained by inherent values and the nature of a person.

    Many of the Hindu Saints revered by Brahmin community are from Shudras. Mata Amrutanandmayi from Kerala is a Shudra from Fisherman community. You can see several Brahmins around her – keeping in mind only 4% of population are Brahmins.

    Not all Brahmins are well to do today. A majority are very poor who find it difficult to provide food for their family. Many of the Sulab Shauchalay workers in Delhi are Brahmins. Many of the Rickshaw pullers in Delhi and in North India are Brahmins.

    The Army of Shri Rama were all Tribals. The Bhils were the ones who helped and were protected by Shri Ram. They formed his army. He did not take his Father Dasharath’s army. You can contact a Bhil in Central India and still they are devoted to Lord Shri Ram.

    There were instances when there were attrocities on the Tribal community – troubled by a corrupt Tribal King.. In such cases, Lord Shri Ram would help the masses by fighting for them and reinstating a new King. This happened in Lanka where Vibhishan was reinstated as King and in South India Bali was reinstated with Sugriv.

    Ramayana is not a myth, it is a real story.. Correlate the story with the facts/ evidence in Shri Lanka and in many places of India. Nowhere do you see a bridge made using floating stones on Ocean except between Rameshwaram and Sri Lanka. The stones there literally float still today. It is unfortunate that a “Secular” Govt works towards destroying it and does no effort in educating the masses about the bridge. It is an engineering marvel not yet replicated. The technique used by Nal and Neela (engineers of that time) is menitoned in one of the South Indian Ramayana – not sure maybe Kampan Ramayana.

    British and later some politicians propogate wrong information so that the public can be divided and votes can be gathered to their favour.

    As a general public who is a victim of caste-ism, please do not propogate this hate.

    Gurucharaney,
    Sainath Shanbhag

  15. poornima said

    my dear brother im a ‘brahmin’ by birth, but i know ure capable of being a ‘brahmin’ by quality…i understand ure anger…i would be the same if i were u…but hatred is not a solution, is it? please have faith in humanity…at the same time be clever enough not to be too innocent…most importantly, make it ure goal to prosper….thats what i want of u…i hate mahabharata and ramayana too…they are merely fictional works…let them be…read stories from jataka tales or vikramaditya…they are so colourfully creative…be an atheist, but be spiritual…i know im nobody to preach u..but i have faith that u will know that hatred is not the way…btw im a brahmin who does not consider caste for dining with living with, playing with or falling in love with a dalit…only rotten people who are half humans do that….but my request for u is to please not judge us all with the same measuring rod

  16. kapil said

    Dalit only want free free free and more Reservation in there life not to do hard work……..

  17. ijswamy said

    All posts concede Brahmin supremacy .

  18. dravid said

    do u give fallen sovereignty of real natives of INDIA ?why do u people hesitate on reservations? Sc St Bc& women have reservation they are compete and getting general seats also how could u tell they didnt hard work?according to % of the population of different castes if jobs alloted how many u will get? dont make better things worse

    • i j swamy said

      Real natives lived primitive life . Aryans came to teach them covilisation . But the “real natives ” are fit only to do menial and manual jobs .

      • raja sarma said

        Arayn invasion has been completely disproved.

      • i j swamy said

        Dravidians are meant to do menial jobs .

  19. MK satyawadi said

    All veda and purana should be thrown into latrine. Because they are fake, full of hypothesis and have no scientific approval.

    • rohot said

      then which religion is true sir

  20. dravidians said

    Aryans are meant to fo blowjobs only,,, u jj swamy ass hole,

  21. rohot said

    Hi My friends i belong to dalit community and i held brahmins responsible for all the pain and insult which dalits had faced for centuries but in my opinion the relation between me and my Ram is not depend on how some stories written by some brahmins of that era to maintain their dominance i love chanting Jai Sri Ram and i find peace in it and that is it for me

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