The great social scientist and Dalit activist, Gail Omvedt had written a letter to the Kannada Brahmin capitalist N.R.Naryana Murthy to introduce reservations for Dalits in his company Infosys. India’s so called wealth creating companies like Infosys, Wipro and Tata Consultancy are owned, controlled and run by Brahmins and upper castes. Narayan Murthy did not even have the decency to reply to Gail Omvedt and tore the letter and threw it in the dustbin. This is not new for people like us in Dalit Nation. We have innumerable instances of Brahmins running over us Dalits. This Brahmin from Mysore is no exception and works under the rules set by his Jati Dharma which is another name for Manudharma.
The Dalits are poorly represented in the private sector institutes in India. The Dalits and OBCs could get Government jobs due to the reservation policy of Ambedkar. The wily Brahmin prime minister Narasimha Rao commissioned the upper caste Khatri Sikh Manmohan Singh as the finance minister in 1991. Manmohan Singh, current Prime Minister of India created the liberalization and globalization policy of India to protect Manudharma which is Hindu caste system and destroy the socialistic ideals of Babasaheb Ambedkar.
The Brahmins and Banias capitalized from the liberalization policy. They worked through the American multinationals to get subsidized land and tax exemption for their industries. The Mittals, Ambanis and Tatas made huge amounts of money using the resources of our land. What did the Bahujans gain from this. Absolutely nothing.
The IT industry is the darling of the Brahmins. The Brahmins and Jews cheated the world by claiming that in year 2000 all the computers will shut down. They created the Y2K problem. Using this Y2k myth they made a lot of money and set up bodyshopping in India. Body Shopping is like slave trade where the companies send engineers to work in American and European multinationals. It is a kind of prostitution and Vaidiks are very good in this as they even converted their temples into Brothels (Read our article – Devadasis were degraded Buddhist Nuns). The companies like Infosys, Wipro, Tata Consultancy, Satyam Computers are body shopping firms. They slave for American capitalists. They do not have any software product owned and created by them. But still these upper caste people claim that India is a software superpower. In Dalit Nation we have always said that slaves can never be superpowers. These software slaves are not emperors but just coolies. But they are darlings of Manuwadi media. They even wanted this wily Narayan Murthy to become the president of India. President for what. To sell the country to multinationals and turn it into a brothel.
The private sectors has indeed become the agraharam of Brahmins and upper caste. Companies like Reliance, Tata and Infosys cheat the government and make profit in millions. They have no concern for the starving masses of India. It is high time that we Dalits start to work towards introducing reservation in private sector. These private sector exploiters should be taught a lesson. The Dalits and Bahujans should teach them a lesson. The Tatas have been shown the way in Singur. Mayavathi has protested against Reliance retail chain which will disenfarnchise several Dalits who sell vegetables for a living. When are we going to agitate against these companies like Infosys and Wipro.
Our only hope is to get Mayavathi as the Prime Minister in the next election to implement reservations for Dalits in the private sector. It should be mandatory to reserve 26% for Dalits, 27% for OBCs and 13% for Muslims. We need to bring in more regulation in the private sector as they are dens of exploitation and corruption. When Dalits try to apply jobs in these companies the HR people will screen by the names and do not even allow them to be interviewed. Gail Omvedt who has done a very good study on Brahmin deception has mentioned that in Poona computer engineers are synonymous with Brahmins. If it is a Muslim they would not even allow them inside their five star campuses. If you want to see Manudharma in action visit any of these five star campuses of Softwatre companies.
We in Dalit Nation pledge to support Gail Omvedt in her struggle against the upper caste capitalists. We want to make a clear statement that she is not alone and she has the whole Dalit Nation behind her. Together we will unite the Dalits, OBCs, Muslims and Christians and eradicate the untouchability of the Bahujans in these private sector firms.
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Armugam said
Narayan Murthy is a great Visionary. He did the right thing of tearing the letter and throwing in the dust bin. Gail Omlette and people like her are anti-national and anti-progress and should be kicked out of our country.
C . L . CHUMBER said
” ERADICATE THE UNTOUCHABILITY OF THE BAHUJANS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR FIRMS !!!!! ”
Dear Viewers ,
The dalitnation administrators wrote at proper time to implement reservation for the constitutional reserve catagories but the proprieters of the private sector are manuwadis not the ethical as well as constitutional minded ! I wish to highlight dalitnation`s main points which we must discuss as below : – ( 1 ) Gail Omvedt had written a letter to the Kannada Brahmin capitalist N.R.Naryana Murthy to introduce reservations for Dalits in his company Infosys.
( 2 ) Narayan Murthy did not even have the decency to reply to Gail Omvedt and tore the letter and threw it in the dustbin
( 3 ) The Dalits are poorly represented in the private sector institutes in India.
( 4 ) Manmohan Singh, current Prime Minister of India created the liberalization and globalization policy of India to protect Manudharma
( 5 ) The Brahmins and Banias capitalized from the liberalization policy.
( 6 ) What did the Bahujans gain from this.Absolutely nothing.
( 7 ) The companies like Infosys, Wipro, Tata Consultancy, Satyam Computers are body shopping firms. They slave for American capitalists.
( 8 ) They have no concern for the starving masses of India.
( 9 ) It is high time that we Dalits start to work towards introducing reservation in private sector
( 10 ) It should be mandatory to reserve 26% for Dalits, 27% for OBCs and 13% for Muslims.
( 11 ) If you want to see Manudharma in action visit any of these five star campuses of Softwatre companies.
( 12 ) We in Dalit Nation pledge to support Gail Omvedt in her struggle against the upper caste capitalists. ”
I also pledge to support the Dalitnation and Gail Omvedt in their struggle for gainig equality , liberity ,fraternity and justice in the private sector ! OUR STRUGGLE MAY NATIONALISE THIS PRIVATE SECTOR LIKE THE NATIONALISATION OF PRIVATE BANKS IN 1969 AD ! EVERY THING IS POSSIBLE IN A STRONG DEMOCRATIC WORLD !!!!!
HAM said
KSHTRIYA(LORD RAM,GAUTAM BUDDHA,GURU GOBIND SIGNH) AND BRAHMIN POEPLE ARE THE CRUX OF SOCIETY!. (HE WHO IS COURAGOUS RULES THE WORLD) FOR DALITS TAKE IT OR CRIB IT THE REALITY WILL NOT CHANGE.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN BLOOD TO THE NATION.
IT WAS BRITISH PEOLPE WHO (AND ARE) EXPLIOTING DOWNTRODEN PEOPLE.
REST EVERYTHING IS PROPOGANDA AGINST BRAHMINS ND UPPER CASTES.
STOP THIS OR YOU COULD BE BURYING YOUR OWN GRAVE EVENTUALLY.
prasad said
why you want to come in the way of growth? today Bangalore is famous for Infosys why you dont want that also they are not refusing to take other caste people they are opposing reservation, if you dont have pride about him why you want to join that company???
hinduhappyshem said
|| They even wanted this wily Narayan Murthy to become the president of India. President for what. To sell the country to multinationals and turn it into a brothel.||
Keep stretching your luck, suckers.
Blogs can be so easily hacked into. Emails can be so easily traced. Do not ever assume you dumbheads can hide behind this facade called dalitnation. You are answerable in court.
KUMARPUSHP said
Naryan murty and their umblical links should not be come near the president house they will sell the country and run away to jews land.I would request Mr Chumber to keep ready to file case against nilkarni who is coming to delhi to become chairman of national identity programme .
Dr. Known said
Govt must freely give Handguns to all Dalits and Tribals for their self-defense.
Every 18 minutes:
A crime is committed against Dalit
Every day:
* 3 Dalit women are raped
* 2 Dalits are murdered & 2 Dalits Houses are burnt
* 11 Dalits are beaten
Every week:
* 13 Dalits are murdered
* 5 Dalits home or possessions are burnt
* 6 Dalits are kidnapped or abducted
http://samatha.in/2008/08/26/being-a-dalit-in-india-facts-and-figures/
http://digg.com/world_news/Supreme_Court_s_Handgun_Ruling_Spreads
HAM said
this is bullshit. dalits should NOT COME UNDER THIS FUCKING PROPOGANDA.
IT TAKES COURAGE TO FIGHT WITH A GUN,DONT EVEN TRY IT .
OR U COULD GET FUCKED UP .
prasad said
why other caste people not dying?? why are you overlooking them????
Dr. Known said
India is a Democracy and NOT Meritocracy like Taiwan.
Or else India would have never got Independence from British.
Govt must implement Reservations in Temples, Judiciary and in Defense services.
A) 50% of Temple staff/Judges/Defense must be from OBC communities.
B) 35% Temple staff/Judges/Defense must be from Dalits and Tribals.
C) Remaining Temple staff/Judges/Defense must be from other castes.
Sukra Charya said
“Or else India would have never got Independence from British.”.
??. We got Independence from Great Britain – because, we wanted to be free and establish a democratic state. Not the other way around.
Dr. Known said
India must have reservations until 85% of marriages in India are Inter-Caste or Inter-Religious.
Sukra Charya said
What is the sanctity with 85%?
kamal said
Ok Now i get you…in nut shell you are interested in p*ssy of upper caste…You are not satisfied with low caste pussy and you know trying top rape upper castes will lead to public castration and hence you want a legallly certified access to upper caste pussy…BTW it is purely your inferiority complex with your caste and your genes which makes you think that by marrying in upper castes you will be able to salvage and deposit some of your genes into others. If you did not feel inferior of yourself, you would care less of inter caste marriage.
Shantaram said
I am not much of a Narayan Murthy fan but I do admire some of the admirable tasks he has done to put India on the centerstage of Software and IT development. As usual Dalit Nation and people like Gail Omvedt are creating unneccesary noise to gain cheap publicity to their unhealthy cause.
“The great social scientist and Dalit activist, Gail Omvedt had written a letter to the Kannada Brahmin capitalist N.R.Naryana Murthy to introduce reservations for Dalits in his company Infosys.”
Naryan Murthy is not a Capitalist. Sorry I don’t think you inderstand how public limited companies like Infosys or Wipro or TCS works. They are driven by the profit motive of their Share Holders who are capitalists and it is an open market where anyone can invest. There are angel investors and Venture capitalists who have invested in companies like Infosys. NRN was instrumental in only running the company and maximize the profits for its shareholders. This job he did exceptionally well. NRN himself has 7% stake in the company and he has always belived and implemented sharing of profits (through ESOPS) with the employees of Infosys. He was one of the pioneers in Indian Industry who introduced this for the first time in India.
It is strange Dalit Nation and Gail Omvedt should target NRN. Why is this so? Why don’t they ask Azim Premji (a Bohra Muslim) who runs a similar company with the same kind of market share. Azim Premji is an exceptional entruepruener. But unlike Infosys which beleives in sharing of wealth, in Wipro Premji has 83% stake. Just because NRN is a brahmin the attack on him. Who is castesist here. Gail Omvedt and Gang spewing venom at an exceptional entruepruener like NRN just because he is a Brahmin by birth.
Infosys and most companies have highly efficient merit based recruitment policies and practices. Infosys is an equal oppurtunity employer and the standard of ethics in their recruitment is very high. Narayan Murthy has also congnized the affirmative action suggested by many social scientists and has envisioned programs for recruitment of poor students and even assist in their education and training. This has been institutionalized in their recent recruitment programs. Again the poor students are irrespective of caste. There are several so called Dalits who are richer by any standards. Why should any reservation be based on caste. Infosys or Wipro or TCS does not recruit based on Caste. It is only people like Gail Omvedt who keep hallucinating under their own conspiracy theories who think so. NRN is wise enough not to fall a prey into these casteist political forces. He displays a higher degree of ethics and social awareness than these dirty scandal mongering separatists like Gail Omvedt who have been comissioned by their pay masters to create casteist divide in India.
“The Brahmins and Jews cheated the world by claiming that in year 2000 all the computers will shut down. They created the Y2K problem. Using this Y2k myth they made a lot of money and set up bodyshopping in India.”
Y2K problem was not created by Brahmins or Jews and neither was it a conspiracy. It was created due to the constraints of Hardware in the earlier times of the computer era which made programmers to write code to incorporate a two digit date. There is no conspiracy here at all but just remedial action taken by computer engineers based on solid reason and empirical facts.Your understanding of Y2K is indeed laughable. Besides highlighting your ignorance it gave me a few good laughs. Thanks for that.
Even prior to Y2K infosys and indian software was a formidable force as the computer outsourcing revolution started much earlier in the mid 90s.The fact that Indian companies capitalized on the Y2K boom is indeed noteworthy. The whole paradigm of Outsourcing, Connectivity and Networking was utlized in executing this work. THis same model is now working towards the outsourcing in finanacial, medical and scientific sectors. It is one of those things which has the potential of making the ‘Flat World’. Hats of to all the pioneers from US and India who made this happen.
“Body Shopping is like slave trade where the companies send engineers to work in American and European multinationals. It is a kind of prostitution and Vaidiks are very good in this as they even converted their temples into Brothels”
Outsourcing is not body shopping at all. They were placing people as consultants in many companies. apart from that they have built in Offshore development centres for many multinationals like IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco etc. Consultants are highly paid white collor executives and are nothing like prostitutes. It is strange you want reservations in a supposed brothel. Your understanding of IT industry is indeed thriving on such ignorance that I am suspecting your sanity.
“They slave for American capitalists. They do not have any software product owned and created by them.”
COmpanies like infosys conslut for American firms and also many of them are government contracts. THey also have developed products like ‘Finacle’ which has a very good market share in the devloped and emerging markets. It is a problem that there are not many Indian Software products. But there is a healthy sign in recent times with many new enterprising indian firms coming up with innovate products. It will take time and will surely materilize soon.
“The private sectors has indeed become the agraharam of Brahmins and upper caste. Companies like Reliance, Tata and Infosys cheat the government and make profit in millions. They have no concern for the starving masses of India.”
Infosys and companies like them are not any agraharams and the employees are cosmopolitan educated and bright engineers. THe caste equations never come to play anywhere in these companies other than in the fertile imagination of lunatics like Gail Omvedt.
“Our only hope is to get Mayavathi as the Prime Minister in the next election to implement reservations for Dalits in the private sector. It should be mandatory to reserve 26% for Dalits, 27% for OBCs and 13% for Muslims.”
Mayavathi is an opportnist politician who sells her party candidature to the Highest bidder. She will do nothing to the Dalits. Her state UP is part of BIMARU state and going by the kind of governance in UP it is going to be diseased for a long long time to come. Mayavathi has even said if companies in UP establish 30% reservation for SC, ST, OBC and Muslim Up government will provide subsidy. But there are no takers as UP is very poor in infrastructure and human development. The casteist politicains like Mulyam, Mayavathi have messed up the state beyond repair.
Dalit nation can pledge support to Gail Omvedt or Mayavathi but you are the problem and not the solution.
rationalist said
very well written dude 🙂
Bala said
Very rational arguments … but you are wasting your time here. Like Jesus said, do not cast your pearls in front of swines.
The list of items raised by Dalitnation, that you disected line by line in your reply, seriously questions the mental capability and sanity of Dalitnation. Do you really think anyone with such a seriously flawed sense of logic can understand your rational explanation?
Harsh Mishra said
Dude, you wrote everything I wanted to say. it’s laughable that admin didn’t even bother to google simple stuff
mesquiteice said
BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS
Beggars have to beg! Some beggars beg on the basis of poverty, while some beg based on their caste. But they can only get what is thrown at them. They cant demand.
If DALITS want to excel and really prove a point to people who oppressed them they should come out of this begging attitude. Infosys would not have been there if they were beggars. They were hard workers.
Everybody who believes in reservation more than their capabilities should be thrown into dustbin. When a guy without legs can believe in himself, what is wrong with you.
POLITICIANS LIKE OMVELDT WANT DALITS TO BE BEGGARS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE A CUT FROM THE BEGGARY COLLECTION. THEY HAVE CONSPIRED WITH UPPER CLASS TO COMPLETELY MAKE DALITS WEAK FROM WITHIIN AND ARE KILLING THEIR SELF RESPECT.
Can a beggar have self respect? Isnt he declaring himself inferior by begging.
No sympathy for lazy beggars.
MAY EVERYBODY BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES RATHER THAN RESERVATIONS.
ML Paswan said
begging is the genetic and cultural traits of brahmans they say this as Bhiksha…The million strong Hindu Beggars army (called as sadhus) in India are no others but brahmans. eevn in a brahman marriage the brahman bride after yagopavit/havan yagya has to mandatory beg from 5 houses in neighbourhood.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE HINDUS USED TO BURN THE WIVES WITH THEIR DEAD HUSBANDS . SUCH IS THE DEAD THINKING OF THE HINDUS STILL !!!!!
Dear Viewers ,
Mr.Mesquiteice said ( October 1, 2008 @ 5:03 am ) ,” BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS.Beggars have to beg! Some beggars beg on the basis of poverty, while some beg based on their caste. But they can only get what is thrown at them. They cant demand.”
MY ANSWER IS : – INDIA IS NOT A COUNTRY OF BEGGARS .INDIA IS INDEBTED TO MANY NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL ORGANISATIONS AND COUNTRIES . THE VAIDIK PEOPLE EXPLOITED THE NAIONAL AND STATE BUDGETS BEING THE RULERS .THE VAIDIK PEOPLE BRAND OTHRS BEGGARS .ACTUALLY THEY ARE DACOITING THE INDIAN ECONOMY . THE INDIAN GOVT. AND STATE GOVERNMETS MUST ISSUE WHITE PAPERS SO THAT THE INDIAN CITIZENS MAY KNOW WHICH CASTE / VARNA HOW MUCH HAS BEEN BENEFITED FROM THE STATE BY LOANS , SUBSIDIES AND WAIVING LOANS
MR. HINDU MINDED ! WE INDIAN ABORIGINALS ARE NOT BEGGARS .WE ARE NOT DOGS TO WHOM YOU INDO-ARYANS WILL THROW ALMS ON US . WE WILL DEMAND OUR COUNTRY AND WE CAN EVEN SNATCH OUR COUNTRY FROM THE INDO-ARYANS . DON`T PROVOCATE US .WE ARE FIFGTING NON-VIOLENT, CONSTITUTIONAL AND DEMOCRATIC WAR !!!!!
( 2 ) If DALITS want to excel and really prove a point to people who oppressed them they should come out of this begging attitude. Infosys would not have been there if they were beggars. They were hard workers.
MY ANSWER IS : – MANY INDO-ARYAN EDUCATIONAL / COMMERCIAL / MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS ARE RUNNING ON HEAVY SUBSEDISED AND EVEN FREE LIKE LANDS !!!!! MANY OF THEM DO NOT FULFIL THE STATURY UNDERTAKINGS OF ALLOWING SOME PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS TO STUDY AND PATIENTS TO BE TREATD FREE OR CONCESSETIONAL FEES . NO ONE IS EVER HARD WORKER THAN THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS . YOU WORK IN THE AC OFFICES AND LIVE IN THE ROOMS .
LET US WORK HARD IN THE MONTH OF MAY-JUNE IN THE FIELDS TO PLANT THE RICE PLANTS IN THE 45 DEGREE TEMPERATURE ..THE VAIDIK PEOPLE ARE PARASITE ON INDIAN ECONOMY !!!!! IS IT NOT TRUE ? ? ? ? ?
( 3 ) .Everybody who believes in reservation more than their capabilities should be thrown into dustbin. When a guy without legs can believe in himself, what is wrong with you.
MY ANSWER IS :- WHAT ARE YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE`S CAPABILITIES ? THE MOST OF THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES DO NOT RECOGNISE YOUR MBBS DEGREES BECAUSE YOUR STANDARD IS BELOW OF THEIR STANDARD .HOW MANY INVENTIONS AND DISCOVERIES HAD DONE YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ? THE VAIDIK PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN THE DUSTBINS OF MERITORIOUS FOREIGNERS !!!!! IF YOU ARE MERITORIOUS THEN WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF US .
WE WILL SANCTION YOU THE SAME RESERVATION IN THE NEAR FUTURE .YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LEGAL BEGGARS .
( 4 ) POLITICIANS LIKE OMVELDT WANT DALITS TO BE BEGGARS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE A CUT FROM THE BEGGARY COLLECTION. THEY HAVE CONSPIRED WITH UPPER CLASS TO COMPLETELY MAKE DALITS WEAK FROM WITHIIN AND ARE KILLING THEIR SELF RESPECT.
MY ANSWER IS :- MADAM GAIL OMVELDT GREAT SOCIAL SCIENTIST IS TRUE HUMANITARIAN . THE HINDUS USED TO BURN THE WIVES WITH THEIR DEAD HUSBANDS . SUCH IS THE DEAD THINKING OF THE HINDUS STILL .WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE SELF RESPECT WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE .WE ARE STRONGER ENOUGH EVEN TO RULE THE INDIA !!!!!
Can a beggar have self respect? Isnt he declaring himself inferior by begging.
( 5 ) No sympathy for lazy beggars.MAY EVERYBODY BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES RATHER THAN RESERVATIONS.
MY ANSWER IS : -NO SYMPATHY FOR THE UNETHICAL WORSHIPERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS !!!!! MAY EVERY BODY BELIEVE IN ETHICS THAN BELIEVING IN EVIL GODS AND CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM DUE TO WHICH RESERVATION POLICY CAME INTO EXISTENCE !!!!!
hinduismglance said
Sati System is the great sacrifice by the Rajput princess and queens of Rajasthan who jumped in fire rather being raped and forced into Islam.They didnot want to become concubines.These brave women save their honour.Malik Mohammad Jaisi has written a beautiful account of Rani Padmini who became Sati inorder to avoid Islamic oppression.Salutes to the brave women of India.
kamal said
Are you threatening us with violence…Mind you it takes guts to brandish a sword…if you threaten us with violence, even 100 of us will not eb able to save themselves when confronted by one of us…You coward terrorist.
hindushemhappy said
Mr.Malicious Liar Chumber,
Sati used to be practised by women in NorthWest India. By YOU PEOPLE.
Later to protect from YOU MULLAH invaders, women began to practice Sati after the husband died in rest of India.
Now, YOU IDIOT MULLAH will tell us bout Hindusim and who burnt what…
You are the one that Needs to be Discarded Not Hinduism.
You are an Idiot, Dumb, CHEPIO, Mad Mullah – GO and File a Case ASAP Now.
Sukra Charya said
Chumber,
Has anyone ever asked why women they committed SATI ? And if its practiced in other parts of the world?
In Roman times, women from “noble” families would jump from the fort walls and kill themselves – to prevent being taken prisnors by the barbarians. In Africa, Black women would jump off cliffs, to escape Arab (and white) slave traders. So this practice is an OLD practice and practiced on many different continents – with the same purpose.
When Muslim invaders attacked, they would take women and put them in harems. In Arabia, women were treated like property. Hindu women, rather than undergoing that INDIGNITY, committed SATI.
You are the one who talks about the DIGNITY of Dalits. Why is it so different to understand that women value SELF DIGNITY??
hapshemhindupy said
MR. HINDU MINDED ! WE INDIAN ABORIGINALS ARE NOT BEGGARS .WE ARE NOT DOGS TO WHOM YOU INDO-ARYANS WILL THROW ALMS ON US . WE WILL DEMAND OUR COUNTRY AND WE CAN EVEN SNATCH OUR COUNTRY FROM THE INDO-ARYANS . DON`T PROVOCATE US .WE ARE FIFGTING NON-VIOLENT, CONSTITUTIONAL AND DEMOCRATIC WAR
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Chumber,
I am interfering in your conversation with other people and posting in between again.
For the above comment, I demand your blood sample. I will prove it in court that you are NOT an aboriginal Indian.
Most of you Punjabis are either ‘outsiders’ or completely mixed up with outsiders due to repeated invasions from centuries.
Even in Mahabharata times (3200bc) people of your region (NorthWest India) were considered impure due to repeated contact with Non-Indians.
The colonial documents have recorded that Rajput women in 1000s were raped by invading muslims. Everybody could not have committed Sati. Then who will take care of existing small children.
People have always fled North India and moved to East India or South India, even before the muslims invaded.
From Whom are you demanding “Your” country?
The actual Indo-Aryans came and settled as farming units in India Long before you outsiders.
Aryan cultures, the Vedas, Smrithis, Upanishads, etc are all native Indian cultures.
You guys are the outsiders. Come to court. And then you will know. I will prove it to you, You are not an aboriginal indian or adivasi.
Visit South India and see the Adivasis there, then you will know what real aboriginal Indians are like.
You have already provocated everybody enough.
How many times have you misquoted me completely for your dumbedkar image?
How many times have you lied?
You claim i am not against hinduism; but i am removing rapist gods…..are you mad to give such double statements, Chumber?
Do you think we must take the words of a Mad Man like you seriously?
The prob is you claim to be a politician. Nobody wants politicians like you. You are too horrible to even be a politician.
C . L . CHUMBER said
RAJA RAM MOHAN ROY`S SISTER-IN-LAW WAS BURNT ALIVE WITH HIS BROTHER`S DEAD BODY WHO LIVED IN KOLKATTA IN EAST INDIA .HE CONVINCED THE LORD WILLIAM BENTICK TO BAN THIS EVIL AND HE DID .THE INDIAN WOMEN ESPECIALLY THE HINDU WIDDOWS MUST WORSHIP AND GLORIFY THEM !!!!!
C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU ! HAVE YOU KEPT ACCOUNT OF YOUR VAIDIK ABUSES ?
YOUR GOOD SELF SHOULD START A ” VAIDIK ABUSIVE ACADEMY ” FOR THE VAIDIK PEOPLE !!!!!
C . L . CHUMBER said
I HAD ALREADY WROTE THAT THE VAIDIK INDO-ARYANS WORSHIPERS OF THE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST GODS WILL BURN MY EFFIGIES IN OCTOBER ,2008 AND IN NOVEMBER , 2008 THEY WILL BURN THE EFFIGIES OF THEIR RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS TO DISCARD EVIL GODS !!!!!
shemahinduhappy said,
October 2, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
1) DALITS HAVE DISCARDED CHUMBER
Some of my extended acquaintances have spoken to scheduled-whatever people in Bangalore. The ‘dalits’ there are hindu and THEY HAVE AGREED TO DISCARD AND DENOUNCE CHUMBER IN COURT.
2) CHUMBER HATES AMBEDKAR AND MAYAWATI
I can prove this in court. Why is Chumber NOT filing a case against me?
3) CHUMBER IS MAD AND URGENTLY REQUIRES HOSPITALIZATION IN A MENTAL ASYLUM
Chumber is a Liar, Manipulator, a Malicious Cheat, a moron, narcissist and Misquotes people repeatedly. So, he diplays all qualities of a Mad Man. For barking in caps all the time, he requires urgent hospitalization because his mental balance is already loose on caps.
4) CHUMBER LOVES POVERTY AND WANTS POOR PEOPLE TO REMAIN POOR ALWAYS
Chumber has admitted that his top priority is NOT eradication of poverty. He wants people to remain poor and keep begging for reservations so that they will keep voting for him. I can prove this also in court.
5) CHUMBER IS AN UNTOUCHABLE
Dalits are NOT untouchables. Dalits are hindus. Dalits have discarded Chumber. Chumber is a liar and a mad-man who manipulates people. He is therefore an untouchable politician.
mesquiteice said
Chumber,
Please understand what i am telling.
Why cant you say > OK I will not beg. Why do you feel as though i am taking away your birthright.
Dont beg infosys. Make a company bigger than infosys and give only dalits jobs in you company. Then you will be a champion.
Dont try to benefit from others hardwork.
A leader of a group of beggars is still a beggar. If narayana murty can create infosys, why cant you.
Even your favourite hero Micheal Phleps did not win olympics medals by begging. He worked hard isnt it.
A beggar begs because he feels no ego and self respect. He is ready to accept that he is one step less than his master.
One thing you will never get by begging is self respect. I am ok with your begging if you given up hopes of coming up on your own and want to eat leftovers. But then don’t talk bad about the guy whose leftovers you are eating, because it was you who chose to be a beggar.
mesquiteice said
Chumber,
Our Constitution does not differentiante between any person. I am as much an indian as much as you are( if you are). whether vaidik, aborigianal or otherwise we are all indians. This is want constitution says.
your way of differentiating itself is anti contituitonal. talk like an indian.
What ever you are whoever you are whatever you do
truth is truth.
I feel bad when you are telling that narayana murty refused to give you some thing. Why should you ask him.
If a person next door asks you for 10,000 Rs everry month? what will you do. Narayana murty did teh same thing. dont blame him.
create you own infosys only for dalits. become great.
C . L . CHUMBER said
ONE DAY REFINED HINDUISM WILL BE FREE FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
hapshemhindupy said,
October 3, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
You claim i am not against hinduism; but i am removing rapist gods…..are you mad to give such double statements, Chumber?
C . L . CHUMBER said
WHY CHUMBER WILL BE DISCARDED IN BANGALORE ? ? ? ? ?
Dear Viewers ,
Mr.Shemahinduhappy said,( October 2, 2008 @ 1:00 pm ),” 1) DALITS HAVE DISCARDED CHUMBER .Some of my extended acquaintances have spoken to scheduled-whatever people in Bangalore. The ‘dalits’ there are hindu and THEY HAVE AGREED TO DISCARD AND DENOUNCE CHUMBER IN COURT.”
MY ANSWER IS : – IN KARNATKA , THERE WAS ADI-KARNATKA MOVEMENT OF THE ABORIGINALS .THERE IS OUR FAMOUS FRIEND MR. V. T. RAJSEKHAR IN BANGALORE . WHY ARE YOU CHANGES NAMES FREEQYENTLY ? WHY NOT YOU DIRECTLY GO TO COURT ? WHY ARE YOU ABUSING EVERY TIME ?
YESTERDAY 0N 5TH OCTOBER , 2008 , THE GURU RAVIDAS JYOTI WAS BROUGHT FROM VARANASI ( U.P. ) TO GURU RAVIDAS` HISTORICAL PLACE THE CHARAN GANGA , KHURALGARH ( DISTT. HOSHIARPUR ) ON THE BOARDER OF PUNJAB AND HIMACHAL PARDESH IN PROCESSION FROM LUDHIANA .I WAS AMONG ADI-DHARAMIS FROM U.K. ALSO TO WEL COME . I WAS AWARDED ALONG MY WIFE FOR MERITORIOUS SERVICES TOWARDS THE ADI-DHARAM AND COMMUNITY .
I AM THANKFUL MR.HAPPY HINDU ( WHO IS CHANGING HIS NAMES AND STANDS FREEQUENTLY CREATING RECORD ) WHO IS SPREADING MY NAME IN INDIA .HE IS CREATING SYMPATHY FOR ME BY ABUSING MYSELF DAY AND NIGHT . HE IS INVESTING VERY MUCH TIME AND ENERGY TO RESEARCH ABUSES . I RETURN THE SAME TO HIM TO DITRIBUE AMONG HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AND HIS FRIEND CIRCLE ON THE HINDU DUSSEHRA AND THE DIWALI FESTIWALS !!!!!
dakrishnasi said
ONE DAY REFINED HINDUISM WILL BE FREE FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
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Mr.Dumbedkar,
Who are you to decide what is “refined hindusim” ? You are a politician. You politicians make a gutter society everywhere. How can you people refine anything. First you go examine your brain to give for soldering repairs. Whereever you go, you politicians only take the stink of divide-and-rule policy.
dakrishnasi said
I AM THANKFUL MR.HAPPY HINDU ( WHO IS CHANGING HIS NAMES AND STANDS FREEQUENTLY CREATING RECORD ) WHO IS SPREADING MY NAME IN INDIA .HE IS CREATING SYMPATHY FOR ME BY ABUSING MYSELF DAY AND NIGHT . HE IS INVESTING VERY MUCH TIME AND ENERGY TO RESEARCH ABUSES . I RETURN THE SAME TO HIM TO DITRIBUE AMONG HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AND HIS FRIEND CIRCLE ON THE HINDU DUSSEHRA AND THE DIWALI FESTIWALS !!!!!
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Mr.Dumbedkar,
You do have a mentally retardation problem. It does not take any effort to ask friends to ask their household maids to find out if their slum neighbors are willing to attest in court. Just 4 phone calls. And you imagine you are becoming great in India?
I already told you you are a cheapskate sub-human dastard who makes a living out of allegations and lies. Why do you hallucinate and live in a self-deluded world of greatness?
You are only the bait, Like a bali-ka-bakara. Our objective is to know who are the people behind dalitnation. Please ask dalitnation to publish a statement that they are talking on the behalf of Kancha and Rajshekhar with the permission of Kancha and Rajshekhar
When you file a case for abuse on dalitnation against posters therein, the police will investigate the blog roll. Automatically they will know who used how many names. I never denied my multiple names (in fact we are copying your blog roll everyday and we know what post came from where).
What we want to know is about this blog’s writer.
We want the blog owner’s email address to be tracked down. We want to know if he is really a dalit or a simi-sponsored muslim boy with a like-minded group.
Ask your dalitnation’s writer to tell us his legal name and address. Then we will talk further. Until then, stop hallicinating (am telling for your own good health).
You talk big big things. First you file a case, then you talk. Otherwise it will be proven that you are a coward.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION DRAFTED AND IMPLEMENTED BY THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTED POLITICIANS !!!!! THE EVIL HINDU GODS INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE GUTTER SYSTEM !!!!! I ADVOCATED THE INTERCASTE/ INTERVARNA MARRIAGES TO UNITE INDIANS BUT HAPPY-HINDUS OPPOSED THIS TO CONTINUE DIVIDE AND RULE BY MANTAINING THIS SOCIO-RELIGIOUS GUTTER SYSTEM . WHY THEY BEHAVE DOUBLE MINDED ? ? ? ? ?
dakrishnasi said,
October 8, 2008 @ 10:50 am
ONE DAY REFINED HINDUISM WILL BE FREE FROM THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AS WELL AS CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
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Mr.Dumbedkar,
Who are you to decide what is “refined hindusim” ? You are a politician. You politicians make a gutter society everywhere. How can you people refine anything. First you go examine your brain to give for soldering repairs. Whereever you go, you politicians only take the stink of divide-and-rule policy.
SanJam said
dakrishnasi,,,
chumber and co. are a bunch of ball-less slithering snakes, who think that they represent dalits. no point asking them their physical location, or credentials or contact information. there are dogs on the street,,, as bad and as thankless as barking at IT industry and using the wordpress blogs to bark!
hahahahahahahhahaaa
no need to take them seriously… their serious agenda is to uncover the conspiracy between jews and brahmins. hahahaha,,, lol,,,.
these are spineless assholes,,, not dalits,,, as you must be aware that real dalits are quite focussed and driven. but these dogs are looking for their piece of free bread or biscuit crumbs,,, by barking at the very concept of nation called india.
just ignore the chumber lals and his pile of shit!
C . L . CHUMBER said
JUST IGNORE THE SANJAM LAL AND CO. !!!!!
TO ABORIGINAL INDIANS !
Sanjam and co. are a bunch of ball-less slithering snakes, who think that they represent Indo-Ayan Vaidiks. no point asking them their physical location, or credentials or contact information. there are dogs on the street,,, as bad and as thankless as barking at IT industry and using the wordpress blogs to bark!
hahahahahahahhahaaa
no need to take them seriously… their serious agenda is to cover the conspiracy between jews and brahmins. hahahaha,,, lol,,,.
these are spineless assholes,,, not Indo-Aryan Vaidiks ,,, as you must be aware that real rational Indo-Aryan Vaidik are quite focussed and driven. but these dogs are looking for their piece of free bread or biscuit crumbs,,, by barking at the very concept of nation called india.
just ignore the Sanjam lals and his pile of shit!
hindushemhappy said
THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION DRAFTED AND IMPLEMENTED BY THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTED POLITICIANS !!!!! THE EVIL HINDU GODS INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE / VARNA LIKE GUTTER SYSTEM !!!!! I ADVOCATED THE INTERCASTE/ INTERVARNA MARRIAGES TO UNITE INDIANS BUT HAPPY-HINDUS OPPOSED THIS TO CONTINUE DIVIDE AND RULE BY MANTAINING THIS SOCIO-RELIGIOUS GUTTER SYSTEM . WHY THEY BEHAVE DOUBLE MINDED ? ? ? ? ?
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Chumber,
Who will marry anyone just for “caste” ? People will marry for love and companionship. But you do not know the meaning of all that. You only know to bark for attention all the time. You already know you are a double-minded coward.
First you file a case. Then you talk. Otherwise ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A COWARD.
It is so easy to prove in court that you have a non-sane memory and cannot live without caste.
If you and the owner of this blog do not give your name and address within the next 3 days, then a FIR will be filed against you for sedition, anti-Indian government stand, hurting religious sentiments and inciting communal divide.
If we cannot find this blog’s owner / writer, then you Chumber will face charges for both of you together.
C . L . CHUMBER said
I AM READY TO DARE CHALLENGE THE WORSHIPERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFIERS OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST EVIL GODS AND INVENTORS OF THE CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!! I AM READY TO DRINK A BOWL OF POISON LIKE SOCRATE BUT I WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE BARBARIAN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS !!!!! THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND THEIR EVIL FOLLWERS WILL BE FOUGHT IN THE COURTS ACCORDING TO THE DR. AMBAWDEKAR @ DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !!!! ALL HINDU SCRIPTURES ARE READY FOR REFERENCES .A PERSON WHO HAVE NOT ONE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS IS GOING TO FILE A CASE . HE HAS PUBLISHED MY TWO EMAILS ADDRESSES IN THIS BLOG . BUT HE DID NOT DARE TO PUBLISH HIS OWN EMAIL ADRESSES IN THIS BLOG .COME ON !!!!!
hindushemhappy said,
October 14, 2008 @ 1:11 am
If you and the owner of this blog do not give your name and address within the next 3 days, then a FIR will be filed against you for sedition, anti-Indian government stand, hurting religious sentiments and inciting communal divide.
If we cannot find this blog’s owner / writer, then you Chumber will face charges for both of you together.
C . L . CHUMBER said
HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU FINALLY ADMITTED ,” OUR GODS WERE NEITHER RAPISTS NOR RACIST NOR FASCIST ” !!!!!
THEN BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ( WHO WERE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS PER SCRIPTURES OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS ) ARE NOT THE GODS OF MODERN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS !!!!! NOW M/S. HAPPY HINDUS WILL DISCOVER OR INVENT THEIR NEW GODS . I HOPE THEIR NEW INVENTED / DISCOVERED GODS WILL BE DEADLY AGAINST THE RAPE AND CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
shhhapinendupy said,
October 10, 2008 @ 2:58 am
MR. MESQUITEICE ! WHY DO NOT YOU VAIDIK PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT YOUR VAIDIK INDO-ARYAN GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST AND FASCIST EVILS ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN SCRIPTURS ? ? ? ? ?-C . L. CHUMBER
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Mr.Dumbedkar,
Post was to Mesquiteice. But i am writing in between. Want to tell you that you are a liar. OUR GODS WERE NEITHER RAPISTS NOR RACIST NOR FASCIST . It is mullahs-commies-missionaries who are making up and propagating all lies about hindusim, to create divisions. And dumedkar politicians like you want to make a living out of it. For once, drop your politician stand, be with yourself for a few min and listen to this: It is mullahs-commies-missionaries who are making up and propagating all lies about hindusim, to create divisions. And dumedkar politicians like you want to make a living out of it. For once, drop your politician stand, be with yourself for a few min and listen to this:
mesquiteice said
Chumber, (just joking)
You said “Sanjams post are shit”
I am wondering why you decided to vomit the same shit from your mouth by copying his blog and changing names.
Rajiv said
Dream on ……. :-))
hindushemhappy said
HURRAH ! MR. HAPPY HINDU FINALLY ADMITTED ,” OUR GODS WERE NEITHER RAPISTS NOR RACIST NOR FASCIST ” !!!!!
THEN BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ( WHO WERE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AS PER SCRIPTURES OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS ) ARE NOT THE GODS OF MODERN INDO-ARYAN VAIDIKS !!!!! NOW M/S. HAPPY HINDUS WILL DISCOVER OR INVENT THEIR NEW GODS . I HOPE THEIR NEW INVENTED / DISCOVERED GODS WILL BE DEADLY AGAINST THE RAPE AND CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
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Small children sing this song…since you need to be treated as a 5-year old boy with that level of maturity…this song will apply to you:
~~Liar, Liar, Pants on fire, Go to School….~~
SanJam said
I’ve known for a long time that chumber and his comrades would run out of reasons and words to defend themselves!
and when the leaves around their houses werent enough to cover their shame, they started to run helter skelter.
and poor poor chumber, i can understand your frustration, now that you can no longer counter me with your limited abilities……
( i’m lovin it 🙂
you need any help chumber?
ummmmmmm,,,, i got to charge you some dough for using my words…. hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
cant control the guffaws…. sorry ;-/
C . L . CHUMBER said
I WILL NOT HIRE ANY ADVOCATE .I WILL DISCUSS PERSONALLY . YOU MAY HIRE ADVOCATES .COME ON !
lavanya said,
October 17, 2008 @ 6:18 pm
Chumber,
( 1 )Right from the beginning you have threatened people that if they worship gods they will have to spend time behind bars.
MY ANSWER IS : – WHERE HAD I WRITTEN LIKE SUCH ? DO NOT TELL A LIE .YOU BOASTED THAT EVERY ONE IS AGAINST THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM EXEPT CHUMBER . WHEN I AM AGAINST BOTH RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM AS WELL AS RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE ABUSE ME ? THE RAPIS , RACIST AND FASCIST PERSONS CANNOT BE IDEALS FOR A WELL CULTURED SOCIETY !!!!!
( 2 ) It is you who goes touring and giving lectures all over the country fooling poor people with your lies.
MY VIEWS ; – WHICH LIES ? MY FATHER TRAINED ME TO LOVE MY COUNTRY AND MY PEOPLE THAT IS WHY I TRAVEL INDIA .MY PEOPLE IN USA , UK , CANADA INVITED ME SO MANY TIMES BUT I REFUSED . I ASKED THEM TO ANNOUNCE A TRUST TO OPEN A WOMEN RURAL COLLEGE . THEN I WILL GO TO MEET THEM .IS IT WRONG ?
( 3 ) It is you who has lied thru and thru in every matter; and issued stupid warning asking for an apology.
MY VIEWS :- WHO IS STUPID ? TALK GENTLY ! WHICH LIES ? YOU ARE ESTABLISHED ABUSER ! YOU EVEN IGNORED THE SUPREME COURT`S JUDGEMENT ON IDIOT AND CALLED IDIOT SO MANY TIMES . IS IT NOT TRUE ? YOU HAVE LOST THE ETHICAL RIGHT TO E-DIALOGUE ! YOU PEOPLE WROTE AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS . HAVE YOU EVIDENTRY PROOVES ? YOU PEOPLE EVEN DECLARED ME RAPIST . WHAT IS YOUR BENT OF MIND ?
( 4 ) I am not the one filing the fir, it is someone else living in India. I do not wish to receive your address by email. Who can trust a liar like you? You give your address on the open domain like this. You demanded everybody’s legal name and address, now why are you hesitating?
MY VIEWS : – SOME TIME ( 14TH OCT.2008 ) YOU WROTE ABOUT FIR .NEXT DAY YOU WROTE ABOUT LEGAL NOTICE . NOW YOU TALK ABOUT FIRS .DO YOUR DUTY .
FIRST OF ALL , YOU SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS . I USE MY LEGAL NAME BUT YOU USE NUMERIOUS ILLEGAL NAMES . WHY ?
( 5) You also make this blog owner give his name and address. Otherwise you will be in deep trouble.
MY VIEWS :- I KNOW NO NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE OWNER OF THIS BLOG .WHICH TROUBLE ? BE GENTLE . THERE IS ACTION TO REACTION IN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE DIRECTION ACCORDING TO THE NEWTON`S THIRD LAW OF GRAVITY .THERE IS A LAW OF THE LAND WHICH CAN SOLVE YOUR LEGAL TROUBLES .DON`T CREATE TROUBLES TO BE IN TROUBLE !!!!!
(6 ) (Suggestion: Read the Ramayan and Gita before coming to court. Read the original text / translations; not commentries by left wing guys. You have to do this. Or you cannot defend yourself in court.]
MY ANSWER IS :- I HAVE A SET OF THE GITA PRESS , GORAKH PUR ( UP ) IN HINDI AND OF M/S MOTI LAL BANARSI DASS , NEW DELHI IN ENGLISH.I NEVER USE LEFT OR RIGHT VERSIONS .I HAVE MY OWN VERSIONS . WE WILL DISCUSS IN THE COURT ON ORIGINAL TRANSLATED VAIDIK HINDU SCRIPTURES IN ENGLISH , HINDI , MARATHI AND PUNJABI . I WILL NOT HIRE ANY ADVOCATE .I WILL DISCUSS PERSONALLY . YOU MAY HIRE ADVOCATES .COME ON !
lavanya said
I WILL NOT HIRE ANY ADVOCATE .I WILL DISCUSS PERSONALLY . YOU MAY HIRE ADVOCATES .COME ON !
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I will give you your list of lies in court. Do not talk now. Just give your address.
If you think you have NOT made any mistake, then give your address.
Do not hesitate. Do not give explantions. Just give address.
C . L. CHUMBER said
PLEASE DISCARD RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS TO LIBERATE THE INDIAN CONTINENT FROM THE RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM SLAVERY !!!!!
mesquiteice said
Chumber,
first liberate your brain from these stories. Do something productive.
Or at least dont do some thing which hurts others and spread hatered
Sir Realist said
You know I feel for the anger that the Dalits have. However, don’t you think it is rather conceited on your behalf to clam your blog as the “Only Authentic Voice of Dalits”? You paint the Dalit plight in rather poor taste! In doing so you are further painting yourself deeper into the corner you claim Dalits are stuck in.
On the issue of reservation, would you encourage Dalits who need a delicate life saving operation to seek the services of a Doctor who made it because of a reserved seat and reduced qualifications or one who is qualified and attested?
There was a time in India where private sector jobs were scarce and nepotism was rampant. That is less of an issue now. Of all the industries you chose to pick on, the IT industry is not guilty of this practice. In the IT sector, competence and excellence matters and caste is not a consideration. People like you choose to make it one. So now you want the Private Sector to have applicants state what caste they belong to and provide the necessary certificate to prove it!
What you are asking for is charity rather than assistance. And if charity is not provided you want to make it a demand. You want to put caste ahead of competence. The result will be the dumbing down of a nation that is progressing despite the issues that seem to tear it apart.
bhala Manoos said
Hinduism doesn’t require any god to survive. Unlike the abhramic religions it doesn’t require any central figure (God or Gods) as u say to exist. The religion is so sound that it can destroy gods or create new ones in light of superior knowledge. It has evolved of the cumulative thought processes of many human beings. It didn’t start by throwing away all old knowledge and it will not stop at any moment . It doesn’t assume that there may be no better brain or suprior human being (compare this with jesus and Mohamad).
Hinduism draws it energy from the philosphies and knowledge over the period of thousand of years every evolving and correcting .
So Stop barking
mesquiteice said
Sir Realist,
Spot on! way to go
NJ Iyer said
Reservations polarize the castes further. I think we need to keep caste out of the workplace (and preferably everywhere else).
You should push for economic equality. Rather than lobby for reservations for jobs, it makes more sense to lobby for equal educational opportunities for the financially downtrodden. I realize that even today, there is a significant overlap between the economically downtrodden and the lower castes. So any sort of affirmative action that is caste-based is hopefully covering a large number of poor people.
At the end of the day however, I think caste should not be a basis for affirmative action. By legally adopting that stance, there are unpleasant societal repercussions. The forward castes are likely looking down upon the lower castes because they begrudge what they think is an unfair advantage at education and government jobs. Why should the lower castes subject themselves to this, when there likely exist several talented people in their midst who will come up with or without the aid of reservation?
Aparna said
You Mr blogger, listen… you are the few people who are making the dalits non touchables. Trust me.. with so much of shit in your mind.. who would want to touch you. Ive had so many other caste freinds. No one till date has ever been such a pathetic communicator or a fanatical maniac. YOUR RAGE is agreed, but the approach STINKS like a PIECE u POT in the morning. TO GET LIBEARATION YOU NEED TO BE A LEADER, YOU OF ALL THE PEOPLE WILL NOT LED YOUR PEOPLE TO WHAT THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR. FIGHT FOR THE EFFING CAUSE NOT THE POLITICS AROUND IT. BE FOCUSED ON LIFTING UP YOUR CASTE RATHER THAN HURTING AND ABUSING OTHERS SENTIMENTS. REFINE AND CLEANSE YOUR THOUGH PROCESS. THERE ARE HUMAN’S WHO WILL ACTUALLY SUPPORT YOUR CAUSE.
C.L .CHUMBER said
TO LIBERATE FROM THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS WILL BE THE GREATEST EVER WAR AGAINST THE EVILS EVER IN THE UNIVERSE . WE DON`T BOTHER THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST RELIGIOUS FOREIGNER COMMUNITY WHO ENSLAVED THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!! WE REGARD AND LOVE THOSE WHO ARE DEADLY AGAINST THESE EVILS !!!!! A PERSON WHO WORSHIP , DEFEND AND GLORIFY A RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST AS A GOD IS AN ENEMY OF THE ETHICAL SOCIETY !!!!! WE HATE HIM / THEM !
lavanyamur said
WE DON`T BOTHER THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST RELIGIOUS FOREIGNER COMMUNITY WHO ENSLAVED THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!!
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Chumber,
You are the foreigner.
Come to court, yep i can prove it that you came AFTER the vedic society was already formed and thriving in India.
C.L .CHUMBER said
HURRAH !
MR. HAPPY HINDU @ LAVANYAMURA @ LAVANYA ( AND MANY MORE ILLEGAL NAMES ! ) ADMITTED FINALLY THAT BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS ” In hindu texts, those that have raped have only been burned to ashes.” !!!!!
BUT HE NEVER DISCARD HIS ABUSIVE VEDIK LANGUAGE ,” Barking dogs try to bite but can never bite.”
OUR TRUE GOD WON OVER THE FOLLOWERS , DEFENDERS AND GLORIFY OF RAPISTS , RACIST , FASCIST AND FALSE INDO-ARYAN VEDIK GODS ULTIMATELY !!!!!
SATYA MEV JAYATEY BY E-DIALOGUE !!!!!
C.L .CHUMBER said
THE WARRIOR IS KNOWN WHO DARE TO FIGHT FOR ETHICS AND HE / SHE MAY CUT INTO PIECES BUT NEVER SURRENDERS HIS / HER BATTLE FIELD – ADI-MAHAGURU KABIR .
WIN WITH DETERMINATION .- GURU GOBIND SINGH JI .
KHUDI KO KAR BULAND ITNA , KE KHUDA BANDEY SE KHUD PUCHHEY ” BTAA TERI RZA KIYA HAI !!!!! – MOAMMAD IQUBAL .
GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES .- ENGLISH PROVERB
A PERSON WHEN BORN , HE/ SHE CRIES AND THE PEOPLE SMILE !
WE MUST DO SUCH A HIGH LEVEL DEEDS SO THAT AT OUR DEATH PEOPLE WEEP BITTERLY AND WE SMILE !!!!! – ADI-MAHAGURU KABIR .
MOTHER AND MOTHER LAND ARE BETTER THAN THE HEAVENS !!!!! – ADI-MAHABHAGWAN VALMIKI .
YOU PEOPLE SAY THEM THE GODS OF THE UNIVERSE , WE SAY THEM LUSTFUL
– ADI-MAHAGURU RAVIDAS
THE UNTOUCHABLES ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR INDEPENDENT STATE !!!!! – ADI-MAHAGURU RAVIDAS
C.L .CHUMBER said
I ASSURE YOU EVERY ONE THAT I WILL DO MY JOB AS A SURGEON NOT AS A FASCIST !!!!!
LOVE BEGETS LOVE !!!!!
PLEASE DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO JUSTIFY HAT YOUR GOOD SELF HAVE A PIOUS SOUL IN A PIUOS BODY !!!!!
BETTER ALONE THAN A BAD COMPANY ! DISCARD THE COMPANY OF BAD PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP ,DEFEND AND GLORIFY THE EVIL GODS !!!!!
A LOVE IS NOT A REAL LOVE WHICH DO NOT CREATE A LOVELY SOCIETY BASED ON EQUALITY , LIBERTY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE .
I LOVE MY WIFE AND MY CHILDREN . I PLEDGED MY LOVELY HOME TO A BANK FOR MY CHILDREN`S HIGHER STUDY . NOW MY THREE CHILDREN ARE MANAGERS IN MNCs .THEY ARE SUPPORTING THE FOURTH ONE FOR HIGHER STUDY .
I LOVE THE HUMANITY . IN THE LAST THREE YEARS , WE PRODUCED 12 STUDENTS SUCCEEDED TO GET ADMISSION IN THE JAWAHAR NAVODYA VIDYALYA SCHOOL .THESE STUDENTS BELONG TO BRAHMAN , OBCs AND SCs.
FROM 6TH TO +2 CLASSES THEIRS BOARDING AND LODGING WILL BE FREE .
TO-DAY, SOME BRAHMAN INTELLETUALS CAME TO MEET AND APPRECIATE ME FOR MY DARING , RATIONAL AND MIND BLOWING DEBATE ON RAPISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM .THEY SAID ,” YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB .WE ARE READY TO PRODUCE MORE EVIDENCES IN THE LEGAL COURTS OR PEOPLE`S COURT .” I THANKED THEM AND ASSURED THAT I WILL DO MY JOB AS A SURGEON NOT AS A FASCIST !!!!!
C.L .CHUMBER said
MY ABOVE WRITING IS IN RESPONSE TO BELOW WRITING : –
Mesquiteice said,
November 13, 2008 @ 4:50 am
Chumber,
expressions of the soul can never be curtailed limited.
Examples:
Just like a true lover loves his loved one, wheter or not they like it
Just like a true mother who loves her child, wheter or not it likes her.
C.L .CHUMBER said
DOG AND ELEPHANT ARE THE MOST FAITHFUL ANIMAL IN THE WORLD !!!!!
I AM PROUD TO BE CALLED ME AS A BARKING DOG !!!!!
DOG ALWAYS BARKS AT SUSPICIOUS PERSONS !!!!!
I AM BARKING AT THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS !!!!!
IS MY BARKING UNETHICAL , ILLOGICAL OR ILLEGAL ? ? ? ? ?
YOU WROTE ,” EVERY ONE IS AGAINST RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER .”
I AM BARKING BUT YOU ARE NOT ACCOMPANYING ME .
YOU CALL ME EVERY TIME MAD .I THINK YOUR GOOD SELF IS YET TO BE AN
IDEAL MAN !!!!!
Lavanyamur said,
November 12, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Third, a mad liar can you can never discard your abusive language for hindu faith and hindu gods. So, you will continue to bark.
C.L .CHUMBER said
MY ABOVE WRITING IS IN RESPONSE TO BELOW WRITING : –
Lavanyamur said,
November 12, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Third, a mad liar can you can never discard your abusive language for hindu faith and hindu gods. So, you will continue to bark.
lavanyamural said
Chumber,
Why are you repeating the same posts in every thread?
Can you not stick to one thread?
Simply by posting so many proverbs what are you trying to say?
Am still asking you – who is your “true god” ?
Methinks this “won” part seems to be your ego talking, not you. But anyways, am just curious who is your “true god” ? And why do you feel that it has “won” ? What does “win” mean to you and your “true god”?
lavanyamural said
Chumber,
Both of us have reduced ourselves in this entire blog to the cheapest possible petty personal level argument sort.
We both should have had enuf of behaving like animals by now. Can we not grow up or evolve a wee bit into humans please.
Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.
Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).
Without using your “rapist, racist and fascist” terms for Gods, if you can simply come ahead and describe your concept of “God”, i would be very much willing to discuss various concepts with you on the sane human level. I hope you agree to this. Please make a conscious effort and do not allow your ego to reject this. Thanks.
C.L .CHUMBER said
I AM HAPPY TO INFORM ALL THAT M/S HAPPY HINDUS HAVE LOST THE E-BATTLE !
I AM ASHAMED TO BE AN INDIAN WHERE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED AS GODS AND THEIR ABUSIVE VEDIK FOLLOWERS ARE DECLARING OTHERS MADS .
IN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS THE MADS DECLARE OTHERS MADS .
AFTER LOOSING THE ABUSIVE WAR,NOW THEY HIRED MEDICAL DOCTORS !!!!!
THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL GODS AND EVIL FOLLOWERS IS IN A DECISIVE STAGE . SATYA MEV JAYATEY !!!!!
lavanyamural said,
November 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Chumber,
Am throughly ashamed but i do not want to say anything coz i do not want my words to be misused by you again.
Am posting this heartfelt appreciation for you Chumber: Despite my calling you such horrible names repeatedly, still you did not retaliate and call me names. You have more patience, more kindness and more perseverance than what i am capable of, Chumber. Be blessed (in whatever way that makes you happy).
Without using your “rapist, racist and fascist” terms for Gods, if you can simply come ahead and describe your concept of “God”, i would be very much willing to discuss various concepts with you on the sane human level. I hope you agree to this. Please make a conscious effort and do not allow your ego to reject this. Thanks.
https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/dalits-must-agitate-for-reservation-in-
C.L .CHUMBER said
DR. M. R. SATISH RAO`S MEDICAL REPORT AND E-DIALOGUE ON THE RAPISTS , RASCEISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS WITH THEIR WORSHIPERS , DEFENDER AND GLORIFIERS BEING SEND TO PRESIDENTS , PRIME MINISTERS OF ALL COUNTRIES , MPs ,MLAs , MLCs OF INDIA WILL BE INTERESTED AND THEY WILL CONSIDER MY COMPLAINT .
THEY WILL BE INTERESTED IN MY COMPLAINT AND WILL SEND IT TO THE INDOLOGY , RELIGIOUS , CRIMINOLOGY , HUMAN RIGHTS , AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THEIR UNIVERSITIES TO RESEARCH ON IT IN DEPTH !!!!!
IT WILL NOT BE A WASTE OF TIME , EFFORT AND MONEY BECAUSE THE ISSUE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM IS MORE IMPORTANT !!!!!
Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said,
November 14, 2008 @ 8:06 am
Dear Chumber,
“I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !”
( 1 ) Chumber your response to my post seems completely out of place. This is an internet blog and being a qualified psychatrist I was just trying to help you out for free.
MY ANSWER IS : – I WILL RESPOND TO YOUR GOOD SELF`S JUDGEMENT . IT IS NOT RAM RAJYA WHERE INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHAMBUK SAINT WAS MURDERED BY RAMA HIMSELF AND SITA WAS HUMILIATED BY HIM TO COMMIT SUICIDE !!!!! YOU HAVE TO E-DIALOGUE WITH ME , OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE PUT BEHIND THE BARS BY THE INTERPOL !!!!!
YOU ARE NOT HELPING ME . YOU ARE A MEMBER OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS TEAM !!!!! YOU MAY SEND ME A ONE OR TWO LINE MESSAGE WITH YOUR CONTACT NUMBERS OR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL CONTACT YOU .YOU STILL NOT GAVE .
At your degree of mental instability you can see only what you like to see. That’s why I was asking readers here to inform your family members as they are the people who could help you. There is little you can do yourself as one of the signs of mental disorders is unconcious behaviour. You dont know what you are doing. The moment you become aware of your behaviour and actions you get cured. But that is a difficult process as there can be a host of reasons why you have ended up with this mental disorder. Briefly stated it can be either through nature or nurture – by nature I mean it can be nuerological, in that case we need to check your family history. Around 70% of psychaitric disorders are inherited and passed through the genes. By nurture I mean it can be through some traumatic incident or series of incidents or specific social influences.
I am damned sure Presidents, prime ministers, UN, heads of all countries would not be intrested in your complaint. It will be a waste of your time, effort and money. You show a great deal of Narcissism, high degree of self importance and you believe that the world revolves around you. What do you think. A doctor tells you you are suffering from a mental disorder, and you complain and you think this is some international news. You send a mail to all the presidents of the world and UN and suddenly these guys will think – “oh how dare this doctor abuse the great Chumber”. Come on Chumber get real. You are not an international celebrity.
The most ordinary thing in the world is that everyone feels they are extraordinary. Get it Chumber. But C L Chumber thinks is deluded that he is a well known and famous revolutionary all set to head some impending revolutionary movement. In my native city of Mysore, I knew a harmless mental patient who used to think that he was the president of the world. He used to wear a badge proclaiming the same and stand in street corners and give lectures on how he is running the world. Chumber you remind me on the same person just that in your case your disease is still in its infancy.
Regarding my antecedants I am an FRCS and work in the old Clapham hospital in the area of forensic psychaitry. I have as my patients many psychopaths and sociopaths. My advanced skill levels and expertise helps me to recognize psychaitric disorders the moment I see one. Your case is too common and typical in our field.
I once more ask the readers here, if you know of any family members of C.L.Chumber please inform them and get him treated by a qualified psychaitrist or a mental health institute. I recommed NIMHANS (National Institute of Mental health and Nuero sciences in Bangalore) as it is a premier institute in this field not just in India but widely recognized world over.
Dr M.R.Satish Rao
Senior Registrar
Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K
PS: “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ….”.
BTW just curious. Would you send it to the american president. George Bush is still the president till Jan 20. Just wanted to tell you to send it to Barack Obama as well – just in case this case goes beyond Jan 20. After Obama is sworn in as the president we can still discuss your complaint with him. See you later in the White House.
I WILL SEND IT TO BOTH USA , NEW ZEALAND`S NEW PRESIDENTS IN PRINT !!!!
C.L .CHUMBER said
DR. M. R. SATISH RAO`S MEDICAL REPORT AND E-DIALOGUE ON THE RAPISTS , RASCEISTS AND FASCISTS INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS WITH THEIR WORSHIPERS , DEFENDER AND GLORIFIERS BEING SEND TO PRESIDENTS , PRIME MINISTERS OF ALL COUNTRIES , MPs ,MLAs , MLCs OF INDIA WILL BE INTERESTED AND THEY WILL CONSIDER MY COMPLAINT .
THEY WILL BE INTERESTED IN MY COMPLAINT AND WILL SEND IT TO THE INDOLOGY , RELIGIOUS , CRIMINOLOGY , HUMAN RIGHTS , AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THEIR UNIVERSITIES TO RESEARCH ON IT IN DEPTH !!!!!
IT WILL NOT BE A WASTE OF TIME , EFFORT AND MONEY BECAUSE THE ISSUE RAPEISM , RACISM AND FASCISM IS MORE IMPORTANT !!!!!
Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said,
November 14, 2008 @ 8:06 am
Dear Chumber,
“I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ,PM,SPEAKERS OF LOK SABHA , RAJ SABHA AND ASSMBELIES .
I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO THE HEALTH MINISTRY , UK .
I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO U.N.O.
I WILL ALSO SEND THIS REPORT TO HEADS OF ALL COUNTRIES .
I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO ALL MPs , MLAs , MLCs ,DCs AND SSPs OF INDIA. with entire discussion TO ALL ABOVE to make this issue open !”
( 1 ) Chumber your response to my post seems completely out of place. This is an internet blog and being a qualified psychatrist I was just trying to help you out for free.
MY ANSWER IS : – I WILL RESPOND TO YOUR GOOD SELF`S JUDGEMENT . IT IS NOT RAM RAJYA WHERE INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHAMBUK SAINT WAS MURDERED BY RAMA HIMSELF AND SITA WAS HUMILIATED BY HIM TO COMMIT SUICIDE !!!!! YOU HAVE TO E-DIALOGUE WITH ME , OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE PUT BEHIND THE BARS BY THE INTERPOL !!!!!
YOU ARE NOT HELPING ME . YOU ARE A MEMBER OF M/S HAPPY HINDUS TEAM !!!!! YOU MAY SEND ME A ONE OR TWO LINE MESSAGE WITH YOUR CONTACT NUMBERS OR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL CONTACT YOU .YOU STILL NOT GAVE .
At your degree of mental instability you can see only what you like to see. That’s why I was asking readers here to inform your family members as they are the people who could help you. There is little you can do yourself as one of the signs of mental disorders is unconcious behaviour. You dont know what you are doing. The moment you become aware of your behaviour and actions you get cured. But that is a difficult process as there can be a host of reasons why you have ended up with this mental disorder. Briefly stated it can be either through nature or nurture – by nature I mean it can be nuerological, in that case we need to check your family history. Around 70% of psychaitric disorders are inherited and passed through the genes. By nurture I mean it can be through some traumatic incident or series of incidents or specific social influences.
I am damned sure Presidents, prime ministers, UN, heads of all countries would not be intrested in your complaint. It will be a waste of your time, effort and money. You show a great deal of Narcissism, high degree of self importance and you believe that the world revolves around you. What do you think. A doctor tells you you are suffering from a mental disorder, and you complain and you think this is some international news. You send a mail to all the presidents of the world and UN and suddenly these guys will think – “oh how dare this doctor abuse the great Chumber”. Come on Chumber get real. You are not an international celebrity.
The most ordinary thing in the world is that everyone feels they are extraordinary. Get it Chumber. But C L Chumber thinks is deluded that he is a well known and famous revolutionary all set to head some impending revolutionary movement. In my native city of Mysore, I knew a harmless mental patient who used to think that he was the president of the world. He used to wear a badge proclaiming the same and stand in street corners and give lectures on how he is running the world. Chumber you remind me on the same person just that in your case your disease is still in its infancy.
Regarding my antecedants I am an FRCS and work in the old Clapham hospital in the area of forensic psychaitry. I have as my patients many psychopaths and sociopaths. My advanced skill levels and expertise helps me to recognize psychaitric disorders the moment I see one. Your case is too common and typical in our field.
I once more ask the readers here, if you know of any family members of C.L.Chumber please inform them and get him treated by a qualified psychaitrist or a mental health institute. I recommed NIMHANS (National Institute of Mental health and Nuero sciences in Bangalore) as it is a premier institute in this field not just in India but widely recognized world over.
Dr M.R.Satish Rao
Senior Registrar
Old Clapham Hospital, Manchester, U.K
PS: “I WILL SEND THIS REPORT TO PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT ….”.
BTW just curious. Would you send it to the american president. George Bush is still the president till Jan 20. Just wanted to tell you to send it to Barack Obama as well – just in case this case goes beyond Jan 20. After Obama is sworn in as the president we can still discuss your complaint with him. See you later in the White House.
I WILL SEND IT TO BOTH USA , NEW ZEALAND`S NEW PRESIDENTS IN PRINT !!!!
Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said
Hello Mr. Chumber,
Over the weekend, I had been to the Isle of Man in the UK to witness a marriage between an Indian man and British woman, both friends of mine. This indian man to your knowledge and horror is from the Brahmin community and is a Hindu member of a group called VHP UK.
Okay Chumber what more do you need. Do you need my contact address. I like in Stockport in Manchester. I cannot give you further details as you might recollect some things I told about my profile in earlier posts. I work primarily in the area of forensic Psychaitry and have as my patients many Sociopaths and Psychopaths. In the NHS we do not easily provide our address details to all and sundry as it is not safe. I was only trying to help you out with a priliminary diagnosis of your sorry state of your mental condition. If you recollect from my earlier post, I also suggested that your family members should see a psychaitrist for you and I suggest the reputed institute in Bangalore, NIMHANS. I would again ask people here if they know your family members ask them to contact NIMHANS bangalore to get you cured. I wish you godspeed and heal fast.
C.L .CHUMBER said
C.L .CHUMBER said,
November 14, 2008 @ 10:12 am
I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPRATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .
NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!
C . L . CHUMBER said
A FOLLOWER OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST RELIGION CAN NOT BE A TRUE INDIANS ! ! ! ! !
Dr. M.R. Satish Rao said
TO C.L.Chumber
I am not in any way related to Happyhindu@lavanya. I only know happyhindu through the posts happyhindu@lavanya has been posting in this forum. I would say Happyhindu has a great deal of patience in dealing with mentally disoriented people. She has tried in vain to make you come to talking terms, which is a very difficult task and I can vouchsafe for her patience from my professional experience. Anyway that apart.
YOu asked me to provide my address so that your family can come and agitate in front of my house. Actually this is a professional hazard for me working as a foresnsic psychatrist and I used to get threats from many sociopaths and psychopaths. Hence, as I mentioned earlier in my post we do not give our address and contact so easily. I am not a run of the mill psychaitrist. My area is highly specialised and also I hold my life quite valuable and would desist from giving oppurtunity for sociopaths to run over me, my family and my professional fraternity.
Regarding my mention of the friends marriage and the friend being a Brahmin and part of VHP. That was false and a claptrap to basically trigger certain predefined emotions and responses from you. We do this all the time in psychaitry and we even enact psychodrama for analysis of mental conditions. Of course I did go to a marriage in ‘Isle of man’ but that was between two of my english friends. I just wrote the two words – Brahmin and VHP and you were flaming. Now the ball is in your court. Understand how words and its respective associations evoke certain crystallized responses in you. I am not saying you lack reasoning but what I mean is your reasoning is clouded with high degree of prejudice and judgement which is bordering on certain mental conditions which can be a clear case study in the field of a branch of psychaitry termed as ‘Abnormal Psychaitry’.
Please note that I am not your doctor and neither are you my patient. Hence there is no possiblity of you contacting me. I have asked for members of your family or people who know them to get in touch with Psychatristry department of NIMHANS bangalore or even the NHS UK or private hospitals in UK. I can send a list of such institutes through this forum.
My Diagnosis is based on the readings of your post and I can vouchsafe for an accuracy of about 90% on the diagnosis mentioned in my previous post. I once again call upon readers who know Chumber’s family to get in touch with NIMHANS or any other reputed mental health institute. I am pretty sure that the venerable doctors in these institute will concur with my prognosis. Check it out and then you will thank me.
Let me tell you this I have nothing but Goodwill towards you and your family. I just felt that you would need to be healed from this malady and hence my post.
Dr M.R.Satish Roa
Senior Registrar, Old Clapham Hospital
Manchester.
C.L .CHUMBER said
MR. M. R. SATISH RAO ! PLEASE RELEASE MEDICAL REPORTS ON THESE FOLLOWING PERSONS ALSO , OTHERWISE YOU ARE AN UNETHICAL INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU TERRORIST DOCTOR !!!!!
I WILL COMPLAIN TO INTERPOL AGAINST YOUR GOOD SELF IF YOU DID NOT RELEASE THE SAME 15 MEDICAL REPORTS !!!!!
OR YOU SHOULD FEEL SORRY WITHIN A WEEK FOR YOUR FICTITIOUS MEDICAL REPORT TO DEFAME ME INTENTIONALLY !!!!!
C.L .CHUMBER said,
November 18, 2008 @ 10:42 am
C.L .CHUMBER said,
November 14, 2008 @ 10:12 am
I WILL ASK DR.M.R.Satish Rao ,Senior Registrar ,Old Clapham Hospital,
Manchester,UK TO ISSUE ALSO REPORTS –
( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
AND MANY MORE !!!!! WE WILL PAY HIS FEES BECAUSE DOCTORS RECEIVE THEIR CHARGES .
NOW THIS E-DIALOGUE WILL BE GLOBAL DUE DR RAO AND HIS FRIENDS !!!!!
BEFORE THIS IT WAS A BRAIN EXERCISE ONLY !!!!!
C.L .CHUMBER said
HURRAH ! M/S HAPPY HINDUS SAID,” CHUMBRR ! . . .YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT , FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ; AND I SEEK TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY PAST MISTAKES !!!!! ”
Lavanyamur said,
November 23, 2008 @ 10:49 am
Chumber,
Recently i took an oath kritam vadishyami and satyam vadishyami as part of something and no matter whether you believe me or not, from now on i can never lie or hide anything; and i seek to be accountable for my past mistakes.
MY ( C.L.CHUMBER ) COMMENTS : –
DEAR M/S HAPPY HINDUS ! WHAT IS YOUR STAND , CLARIFICATIONS ON THOSE ISSUES WHICH WE DISCUSSED ALREADY ?
BEFORE THIS YOU FELT PROUD OF RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS !
WHAT IS YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ?
YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT( Lavanyamursaid,November 23,2008 @ 10:49 am https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/why-babasaheb-married-a-brahmin/#comment-3506) IS CONTRADICTED BY YOUR SELF WITHIN 79 MINUTES LATER ( lavanyamur said ,November 23, 2008 @ 12:08 pm https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/o-dalits-wake-up/#comment-3368)I WHEN YOUR GOOD SELF COMMENTED ON MY VIEWS ” I AM ASHAMED TO BE AN INDIAN WHERE THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS ARE WORSHIPED AS GODS AND THEIR ABUSIVE VEDIK FOLLOWERS ARE DECLARING OTHERS MADS “.
YOUR GOOD SELF COMMENTED AFTER OATH ,” Unfortunately for you Chumber, I will continue to be a vedik follower. And you will need to continue to be ashamed.”
THIS IS EVIDENT BY YOUR GOOD SELF`S STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE A FLICKERING MIND !!!!!
YOUR GOOD SELF AT LEAST HALF DOZEN TIMES REGRETTED ON YOUR BEHAVIOUR BUT YOU AGAIN REPEATED THE SAME BEHAVIOUR !!!!!
YOUR GOOD SELF IS NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS WATCHING OUR E-DIALOGUE AND VAIDIK ABUSES !!!!!
ONCE I REMINDED YOU THAT YOUR GOOD SELF IS GETTING VERY MUCH NEGATIVE MARKING !
NOW YOUR GOOD SELF WILL ABUSE , BLAME AND ISSUE FICTITIOUS MEDICAL REPORTS AGAINST ME BUT IT IS EVIDENT THAT YOU CLAIMED ” EVERYONE IS AGAINST THE RAPEISM , RACEISM AND FASCISM except CHUMBER ” .
PLEASE WATCH YOUR WRITINGS TO KNOW WHO IS PRO-” RAPIST RACEIST AND FASCIST INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK GODS ” ?
A TRUE GOVERNMENT , A TRUE GOD AND A TRUE SOCIETY WILL NEVER ALLOW THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS TO BE WORSHIPED , DEFENDED AND GLORIFYIED .
BY THE WAY I WANT TO KNOW YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ? ON THESE FOLLOWING ISSUES :-
( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
AND MANY MORE !!!!!
lavanyamuralidharan said
lavanyamuralidharan said,
November 25, 2008 @ 7:01 am
BY THE WAY I WANT TO KNOW YOUR LATEST STAND AFTER ” FROM NOW ON I CAN NEVER LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING ” ? ON THESE FOLLOWING ISSUES :-
( 1 ) ON WHOM WHO ABUSED ME .
———-
You cannot abuse and then ask not to be abused. As mentioned before ‘evil’ such as you will continue to exist. You are the problem, not the solution.
( 2 )ON WHOM WHO WORSHIP THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS EVIL INDO-AYAN VAIDIK GODS !
———
My Gods are within me. Outside of me, they still represent me and my various possible attributes. I will worship all of them. It is you who wants them to be so-called rapist or whatever, which they are not. You do not wish to be explained to, you want to believe only what you want to believe. Nobody can change you. Similarly, nobody can change me, or stop me from worshiping my gods.
( 3) ON WHOM WHO CONGRATULATE ON THE BIRTHDAYS OF THESE EVIL GODS (4 ) ON WHOM WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE EVIL GODS .
——-
Perhaps you can congratulate yourself for being the evil side of you.
( 5 ) ON BRAHMA TRIED 5 TIMES TO RAPE HIS REAL DAUGHTER .WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE AND MARRIED A BACKWARD CLASS GUJJAR GIRL GAYATARI WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HER AND HER PARENTS .
( 6) ON VISHANU WHO RAPED VARINDA@TULASI W/O JALANDHAR ( REF. PADAM PURAN , TULASI-VIVAH MOVIE AND DISTT.JALANDHAR GAZETEER ) .
( 7 ) ON KARISHNA WHO DISCARDED HIS WIFE RUKMANI AND LOVED RADHA TO WHOM HINDUS WORSHIP BOTH .
( 8 ) ON RAM WHO DISCARDED HIS INNOCENT AND PIOUS WIFE SITA WHO WAS COMPELLED TO SUICIDE !
( 9 ) ON PARASHURAM WHO BEHEADED HIS MOTHER RENUKA AS DESIRED BY HIS FATHER JAMDAGANI .HE DID NOT ASKED THE REASON OR REQUESTED HIS FATHER TO PARDON HER .HE KILLED THE KASHTTRIYA VARNA ( ARYAN COMMUNITY ) 21 GENERATIONS AND PRODUCED THE NEXT EVERY GENERATION BY INTERCOURSING KSHATRIYA LADIES BY HIS
BRAHMAN VARNA / COMMUNITY`S YOUTHS !
( 10 ) ON VAMAN WHO DECEIVED BALI TO CAPTURE HIS KINGDOM .
( 11 ) ON NARSINGH WHO MISGUIDED PRAHLAD AND KILLED HIS FATHER , UNCLE AND AUNTIE .
( 12 ) ON INDIRA WHO RAPED MANY WOMEN EVEN RISHIS` WIVES AND OFTEN USES HIS KEEPS TO FINISH OPPONENTS
( 13 ) ON LAKSHMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED RAM AND SITA WITHOUT HIS NEWLY MARRIED WIFE URMILA FOR 14 YEARS .HE LEFT SITA IN FOREST UNGUARDED AND IN PREGNANCY !
( 14 ) ON FIVE PANDVAS WHO LOST THEIR CO-OPERATIVE WIFE DAROPADI TO KAURVAS IN GAMBLING !!!!
AND MANY MORE !!!!!
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You are free to believe in anything you want to, you are also free to cook up anything you want to. And i am free to follow my path. I see you as a devolved “human” with animal instincts, far from human. There is nothing more to say to you. Bye and God Bless.
C.L .CHUMBER said
HURRAH ! MR. MESQUITEICE IS NOW MOHAMMAD MESQUITEICE !!!!!
I HAVE ASKED TO ” DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!! ”
I NEVER PREACHED HATERED AGAINST GOD AND ALLAH !!!!!
I AM AGAINST THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS !!!!!
WHEN WERE YOU CONVERTED TO ISLAM ? ? ? ? ?
YOUR GOOD SELF WROTE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST HAZRAT MOHAMMAD IN THIS BLOG ! ! ! ! !
WHAT IS YOUR STAND NOW ? ? ? ? ?
Mesquiteice said,
November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am
Chumber,
You said “DISCARD THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS TO BE AN IDEAL INDIAN AND HUMAN BEING !!!!!”
I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being.
why are you preaching hatered against Allah.
https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/narendra-modi-and-the-fall-of-hindut
C.L .CHUMBER said
I NEED NOT THE BLESSINGS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST INDO -ARYAN GODS WHO INVENTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE CASTE/VARNA SYSTEM TO MAKE OUR LIVES HELL !!!!!
Lavanyamuralidharan said,
November 25, 2008 @ 7:04 am
You are free to believe in anything you want to, you are also free to cook up anything you want to. And i am free to follow my path. I see you as a devolved “human” with animal instincts, far from human. There is nothing more to say to you. Bye and God Bless.
mesquiteice said
Chumber,
Whether you believe it or not ‘Allah and krishna’ are one and the same. To us he appears as allah. To others he may appears as krishna.or in whatever form they want
PAPPU KUNDANPURI said
DR. M.R.SATISH RAO SHOULD CHECK THE MENTAL LEVEL OF MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE .
MR. MESQUITIECE @ MR. MOHAMMAD MEQUITIECE CLAIMED ON November 25, 2008 @ 4:57 am THAT ” I am a muslim, should i dicard Allah to be a an ideal Human Being. why are you preaching hatered against Allah.”
BUT ON THE SAME DATE November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am AFTER 4 HOURS 31 MINUTES HIS STAND WAS U-TURN ” 1) Why people pray to Allah
2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
MR.C.L.CHUMBER IS A VERY DARING INTELLECTUAL WHO EXPOSED THE HINDU GODS . WE SALUTE HIS PATIENCE AND CONTINUITY .
mesquiteice said
Pappu Kundanpuri,
Thank you for taking time to post you comments regarding my posts.
Please dont read my posts in isolation because they are part of a bigger conversation.
In the post mentioned above, i was disscussing with a person called Chumber.
He had given a list of questions about Hindu gods and was using offensive language against Hindu gods.
I was trying to tell him that there are certain questions which cannot be answered whether Hindu or Muslim.
I wanted to tell chumber that just like he cannot answer questions like “why people pray” Hindus also cannot anwer questions like “why did brahma do this and vishnu do that”
Try to see all the posts before commenting.
C . L . CHUMBER said
PLEASE FIRST OF ALL SOLVE YOUR FAMILY PROBLEMS !!!!!
PLEASE DO NOT WORSHIP THE EVILS !!!!!
PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE ANY BODY IF YOU ARE STAUNCH FOLLOWERS OF EVILS !!!!!
Mesquiteice said,
December 1, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
Chumber,
I prefer mesquiteice-ul-haq.
Please read chapter 109
109:6 You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion
I wish to correct one more this. I did not write anything against Hazrat Mohammed. You are the one calling others Allah as bad. I only wanted to show you that problems are everywhere.
mesquiteice said,
November 25, 2008 @ 9:28 am
Chumber,
Please let me know your latest stand on:-
1) Why people pray to Allah
2) why people celebrate Allah’s birthday
3) Why Muhammed had intercourse with a small child
C . L . CHUMBER said
I THANK MR. RAM KRISHAN SHARMA AND MR. PAPPU KUNDANPURI FOR THEIR VIEWS .
PAPPU KUNDANPURI said
HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY .
lavanyamuralidharan said
HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY .
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Pappu Kundanpuri@Chumber,
Hindus have already answered that. But you do not accept the answer. And please do not talk about credibility..its just too funny.
mesquiteice said
Pappu Kundanpuri,
you said “HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY”
That is exactly what i am telling you. These things are INCREDIBLE.
C.L.CHUMBER said
TERROR OVER INDIA’S FINANCIAL CAPITAL MUMBAI !
On 26th November midnight , the financial capital of world’s most populated democratic country India faced a multiple blasts and gunfire in a dozen areas including the crowded Chhatarpati Shivaji Terminus railway station and two five-star hotels – Oberai and Taj. The situation was so tense and under no control that the government had to call in the Army to assist in defusing the situation. It is reported that more than 188 persons died and 250 injured.
Mr. A. N. Roy, DGP Maharashtra said tonight’s attack in ” at least seven places” is a” terror strike.” Mr. Roy continued,” The suspected terrorists struck in a number of places. Terrorists have opened in discriminate firing with automatic weapons.” In Delhi , the union Home Ministry said it was keeping a close watch on the situation and would provide all necessary assistance to the state government. The firing is reported near BMC headquarter, Hilton Holtel in Nariman Point and Vile Parle. It is reported that two terrorists gunned down.
An IPS officer Mr. Ashok Marutirao Kamte was killed while fighting terrorists at Metro Cinema in the city along with Mr. Vijay Salaskar an encounter specialist. Mr. Hemant Karkare, chief of the Anti-Terrorism Squad was also killed when he was leading an poeration at hotel Taj against terrorists. He was probing the Malegaon blast case. Mr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister condemned the terror attacks in Mumbai and assured all help.
The Indian rulers have not strengthened the democracy in true sense. That is why the Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits took arms for the solution of their legitimate rights. Why are the rulers belonging to Congress at centre and the rulers belonging to SAD at Punjab committed to continue their dynastic rules in a democratic world?
The Indians are living below poverty line. The rich are becoming richer and the poor are becoming poorer. Who is responsible? We condemn these terrorist attacks which is no solution for our problems in a democratic world. We appeal the NRIs to come to help their country fellows as the Gadhrites of USA and Kamagata Maru Ship Episode Baba Gurditt Singh Sarhali`s group in Canada in the early twenties of the 20th century.
PAPPU KUNDANPURI said
HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY .
lavanyamuralidharan said,
December 3, 2008 @ 11:02 am
HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY .
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Pappu Kundanpuri@Chumber,
Hindus have already answered that. But you do not accept the answer. And please do not talk about credibility..its just too funny.
Mesquiteice said,
December 3, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Pappu Kundanpuri,
you said “HINDUS MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE ” WHY DID BRAHMA DO THIS AND VISHANU DO THAT ” , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOOSE ITS CREDIBILITY IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY”
That is exactly what i am telling you. These things are INCREDIBLE.
PAPPU KUNDANPURI said
YOUR POSTS ARE NOT PART OF BIGGER CONVERSATION , THESE ARE PART OF A BIGGER ONE SIDE ABUSIVE CONVERSATION .
MR. CHUMBER IS GIVING EVIDENCE FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES .
EVERY RELIGION HAS TO GIVE ANSWER , OTHERWISE IT WILL LOST ITS CREDIBILITY .
MR. GALLELIO PROVED THAT THE EARTH IS REVOLVING ROUND THE SUN NOT THE SUN ROUND THE EARTH .
HE WAS SENTENCED BY THE POPE FOR HIS VIEWS .
BUT IN 1992 AD , THE SAME POPE RELEASED THE POSTAL STAMP IN GALLILIO`S MEMORY .
WE HAVE TO FIND ANSWERS REGARDING THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS .
WE HAVE TO ANSWER WHY WE RECOGNIZE BRAHMA AND VISHANU AS GODS .
mesquiteice said,
December 2, 2008 @ 7:17 am
Pappu Kundanpuri,
Thank you for taking time to post you comments regarding my posts.
Please dont read my posts in isolation because they are part of a bigger conversation.
In the post mentioned above, i was disscussing with a person called Chumber.
He had given a list of questions about Hindu gods and was using offensive language against Hindu gods.
I was trying to tell him that there are certain questions which cannot be answered whether Hindu or Muslim.
I wanted to tell chumber that just like he cannot answer questions like “why people pray” Hindus also cannot anwer questions like “why did brahma do this and vishnu do that”
Try to see all the posts before commenting.
anonymous said
dalit people are already getting all the reservations to uplift their community including the priest work at temple. why still cribbing? upper class also need survival and every living being in this world seek survival by some way or the other thus have started thier own companies. why should dalits get agitated about it? and why do they want a share in it? do they go and ask a share in a haj trip organization? if dalits are that smart why do they have to rely on the so called upper class. dig out your own way and start shining there.
after all stop arguing like this and see the nation as single one. from history days casteism and racism is the main issue. when upper class do not make any chaos these days, why does the dalits?
mesquiteice said
Anonymous,
That is exactly what chumber, pappu kundanpuri and ram krishan sharma want you to do.
They are trying to make people to believe that dalits are creating chaos.
so that they can make politics in between.
C.L.CHUMBER said
EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER
EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM including CHUMBER
lavanyamuralidharan said,
December 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
I was the one who said: EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM exept CHUMBER – Mesquiteice did not say that. I will rephrase the sentence to EVERYONE IS AGAINST RAPISM , RACISM AND FASCISM INCLUDING CHUMBER BUT CHUMBER IS MISTAKEN THAT HINDU GODS WERE RAPIST, RACIST, FASCIST. Satisfied?
SanJAm said
Mr Chumber , you just mentioned these lines:
“The Indian rulers have not strengthened the democracy in true sense. That is why the Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits took arms for the solution of their legitimate rights.”
ARE YOU TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE TERROR ATTACK ON MUMBAI?
AND YOU DID NOT MENTION HINDUS IN THE GROUPS OF HAVE TAKEN UP ARMS?
IS THIS YOUR IDEA OR DID YOU TRY TO COPY THESE LINES FROM A PAKISTANI WEBSITE?
ARENT YOU ASHAMED OF YOURSELF, YOU ARE LIVING, EATING AND WORKING IN INDIA AND OPENLY CONDEMNING “ALL” THE HINDUS FOR ALL THE CRAP GOING AROUND IN THIS COUNTRY?
I REALLY FEEL LIKE BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU CHUMBER!
CHUMBER, YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT THATS ITS OOZING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ALL THE TIME!
GO AND SEE A DOCTOR, YOU TWISTED BASTARD!
Dilip Muralidaran said
“That is why the Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits took arms for the solution of their legitimate rights.”
Chumber, you are an inconsiderate racist. Justifying terrorism on any grounds is offense under the constitution. I hope someone is writing a complaint to the cyber crime cell as we speak on grounds of supporting terrorism. Wait till your IP is tracked. Your ass is in major trouble chumber. Supporting terrorism is not so very patriotic the way we all see it.
C.L .CHUMBER said
MR. SANJAM IS A VERY GOOD ABUSER BUT VERY POOR IN REASONING !!!!!
mesquiteice said
chumber,
Terrorism in inhuman and Terrorists have no religion.
Terrorists believe only in “Hate”.
In fact the captured terrorist has said that their mental conditioning is done on the basis of “Hatered”. They were thought to hate Hindus and India.
This HATE is what makes them mad and fanatic
Hate is destructive. Hate is ignorance
In fact you are doing nothing but creating hatered against hindus.
Love hindus as you love muslims.
Forget brahma and allah. They have no relevance to people who spread hatered.
me said
See: http://manukhsi.blogspot.com/2008/11/salute-to-brave-soul-who-fought-for-her.html
Dalitnation has accepted that “”Some of the muslim and Christian organizations have pledged us support…….We are based in Mumbai and London.””.
Prabin said
Read how Narayan Murthy sabotaged reservation in private sector in my blog
http://apocryphal.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/caste-away-reservation/
Ltn said
Prabin,
The article is very nicely done. Please tell what do you think will be the possible solution?
From my end all i can say is what i have seen; and i have seen engineers with BE and MBA degrees that cannot comprehend even a little more than ‘simple stuff’. On what basis employing such people, merely for caste, can help improve standards anywhere? If not for meritocracy in the private sector, the country wud never have come up on the world scene as it has now.
At the same time, i know of a handful of engineers from Infosys who do not belong to the so-called upper-castes, all telugu guys. They are doing great. Neither have they studied nor have they been employed on the basis of ‘caste’. It appears to me like a shame on our part to target someone like Narayanamurthy.
i also see that there is this big diff in the set-up of social-structures in diff parts of the country. What applies to Punjab certainly cannot apply to Bengal or Gujarat or Tamil Nadu. In Bihar and Punjab, one comes across OBCs like Yadavs and Jats who have been involved in physically assaulting the poor.
In the south, you can never find someone getting praded naked for being poor (or ‘dalit’ as you might call them). It is ‘well-known’ that northies love more politics, show and grandeur than the southies, the most boastful of whom could pale in front of a nothie for his much simpler ways. The crime-rate b/w the north and the south says it all….i do not say northies are diff from the southies…but regional cultural ticks exist as much as they do in diff parts of say, a single state like tamil nadu — it is like, cultural mores in tirunelveli is diff frm madurai and madras….So, on what basis can we band one-group called ‘brahmins’ from all parts of the whole country and brand them as exploiters ?
i have seen a family of priests conducting prayers in a rat-infested dilapitated temple that no one visits and they earn less than what a maid does in the metros in the present times.
i have no idea why we are hung on to ‘caste’ instead of looking at socio-economic factors that are the main reasons for poverty.
i only see ‘caste’ as an imaginary unit of social mobility. Religion has only served a limited purpose, to succor up to our own inexplicable need for what we think to be as emancipation. To some, God is reducable into mathematics. To some faith is axiomatic..all forms will exist and there is no use arguing or wishing them away..for the biology of any form of belief or perception is ingrained in our brains in not just a single way. To question the basis of any faith wud be futile.
We could do very well to concentrate on economic growth, rather than concentrate on the rubbish called ‘caste’. With the ‘power’ of money, automatically what we call as ‘social acceptance’ will happen. Like mentioned before, if Bill gates was single and chamar, all girls in India wud want to marry him – for social mores are such. Its pointless to target a non-existent entity called ‘caste’.
Regards.
Dilip Muralidaran said
@Ltn: Well said. India is so diverse a country branding a set of people across the nation on the basis of caste is foolishness. For example, brahmins in Bengal consume fish as a part of their culture. If someone did this in tamilnadu, it would be taboo!
Like wise there are so many dalit communities or so called backward caste communities that are rigid vegetarians (saiva pillai, saiva mudaliyar, saiva naidu) and are more religions and study the sacred text follow the religion customs piously. So much that sometimes they are mistaken for brahmins! I’ve done that myself so many times.
Chumber like folks are funded either by hindu extremist groups, missionaries or islamic terrorist groups to create a divide in the society. I fail to understand why the fuck someone needs an office in london, working for the downtrodden here in india. The dalits are in the villages and outskirts who are abused day in and day out. What the fuck is dalination doing sitting in a cosmopolitan city like mumbai and 100’s of fucking kilometers away from india in a land whom we were slaves of once upon a time?
Why is dalitnation not on the field.
I ask dalitnation to post reports of tangible progress they have made on the field, saving dalits. Can i have access to that database please? I have the right to see it as per RTI.
happyhindu said
@Dilip,
I too want to know what these guys do with the funds they collect.
What have they done for the upliftment of the poor so far?
Lemme make a guess:
They collect the ‘chanda’….go have chai, smoke, go to a devadasi basti, confuse them with rubbish long tales of being buddhist nuns, then come back, booze, eat beef and sleep — all paid at the expence of funds collected.
Not once do they seem to have rehabilitated the ladies (nor anyone else) with some good or other source of making a living…and they call this “social engineering”…dumbasses…..
Dilip Muralidaran said
@happyhindu i think i should dig for RTI protocols that lets me file a PIL for looking into the database concerning expenditure of Dalit Nation. Since Dalit Nation claims itself to be an NGO their expenses should be made public.
@Dalit Nation
Are you listening? Where can i look at your balance sheet and trial balance? Where can i look at minutes of your annual general body meeting?
C.L .CHUMBER said
HURRAH ! NOW THERE ARE HINDU EXTREMIST GROUPS ALSO !!!!!
DILIP MUST INFORM THE GOVT. ABOUT HINDU EXTREMIST GROUPS !!!!!
I HAVE NO OFFICE ANYWHERE !!!!
IF MR. DILIP BLAME WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE THEN HE IS ABSENT MIND !!!!!
HE DO NOT BELONG TO A CULTURED FAMILY !!!!!
Dilip Muralidaran said,
December 16, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Chumber like folks are funded either by hindu extremist groups, missionaries or islamic terrorist groups to create a divide in the society. I fail to understand why the fuck someone needs an office in london, working for the downtrodden here in india
happyhindu said,
December 17, 2008 @ 2:15 am
@Dilip,
I too want to know what these guys do with the funds they collect.
happyhindu said
HURRAH ! NOW THERE ARE HINDU EXTREMIST GROUPS ALSO !!!!!
DILIP MUST INFORM THE GOVT. ABOUT HINDU EXTREMIST GROUPS !!!!!
I HAVE NO OFFICE ANYWHERE !!!!
IF MR. DILIP BLAME WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE THEN HE IS ABSENT MIND !!!!!
HE DO NOT BELONG TO A CULTURED FAMILY !!!!!
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You just cannot help showing your stupidity again and again, don;t you….who cares about you and your office…we were talking about the activities of dalitnation, not you, mr.madhead.
Dilip Muralidaran said
Chumber,
Firstly, Hindu religious extremists are NOT the point of discussion here. What does dalit nation do with the funds, was the question. Please answer that if you can or buzz off.
Don’t come around here like a fool and type irrelevant crap. Secondly, don’t talk about my family here when im discussing Dalit Nation’s funding and expenses. Me or my family have nothing to do with it like how your family has nothing to do with muslim terrorism either.
C.L .CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU ! PLEASE BE CULTURED IN TALK , WALK AND WRITING .
DAROPADI `S DEROGATORY REMARKS LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE MAHABHARTA . I HAD NOT SAID ANY DEROGATORY REMARKS BUT YOU ARE CONTINUING DUE TO YOUR UNCULTURED BACKGROUND .
MY REPLY WAS IN RESPONSE TO MR. DILIP`S WRITING .
happyhindu said
MR. HAPPY HINDU ! PLEASE BE CULTURED IN TALK , WALK AND WRITING .
DAROPADI `S DEROGATORY REMARKS LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE MAHABHARTA . I HAD NOT SAID ANY DEROGATORY REMARKS BUT YOU ARE CONTINUING DUE TO YOUR UNCULTURED BACKGROUND .
MY REPLY WAS IN RESPONSE TO MR. DILIP`S WRITING .
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If you are expecting cultured behavior, first learn to behave in a cultured manner yourself. Do not comment in between other people’s comments with HURRAH and such nonsense of your own making.
Before you talk about others being uncultured, it is better you have a good look at your writings – all the time just rape, nothing but allegations and hatered. Do not ask others to respect someone like you when they cannot.
kureela said
Dear Dalit Bandhu,Make India weak ,these Narain Murty or Wipros or Tatas will dies in no time.terrorist activities in bombay brought India on their knees and if blast happened to be in Banglore these bastard will loose mony and they would not get place in America also due sub prime morgage and recession.Hindus should know that if we know how to make bomb means we can use it also.long live Dr Ambedkar ,jinnha shab and Auregjeb.
kureela said
Happy hindus, you take your ass from this forum we donot require hindu bastrd.175 million pakistanis are bambooed you hindus and dalits also constitute 175 millions what will happened if dalits gets arm and training to fuck you hindus.get off your ass from this form.you hindus are born barbaric and try to teach us .
happihindu said
Kumarpaush @ Kureela @ various other names,
Guys like you who cannot tolerate true secularism are the ones that bamboozle stuff b/w indians and pakistanis in the name of religion. You are the guys that infact cannot tolerate the so-called dalits coming up in life.
Shame on you guys.
kumarpush said
Dear Murlidharan,Dalit nation run by dalits for dalits .We want to tell the world about the barbaric hindus in India and abroad.Indian news papers run by hindus who are protecting the hindus ass and their government.RAW and IB created the LTTE and tried to destroy the Buddhist nation.We want hindus to return the Bodh Gaya and all other buddhist temple which are occupied by barbaric hindus.
mesquiteice said
Kureela,
You said “what will happened if dalits gets arm and training to fuck you hindus”
I guess there would a (s)explotion of population.
Anyways, Whether you require hindus or not , they exist. Similarly, whether anybody requires or not muslims exist.
Why do you want to preach hatered.
Even when you fuck, if you fuck based on hatered it is “SIN” whereas if you fuck for love it is DIVINE.
How can someone be born barbaric. All humans are the same. Can you define a barbarian. Even if it were so, things that occur by birth is not the fault of the person.
But things that he acquires can be attributed to that person. We were also born as a child that was filled with love. We also used to love everybody without boundries. As children we would have happily played with each other.
But over a period of time you have forgot how to love others and are not trying to hate others. It is a pity that you have chosen the path of hate and not love.
However, hate can never last, Love is the greatest force and is permanent. Hate is a temporary phenomenon and is bound to go away like fog as soon as sunshine comes.
May the light of love be us.
kumarpush said
Hindus are born barbaric ,every 6hour ,one dalit woman is being raped by barbaric hindus and every 12 hour one dalir man is being killed by hindus.all datas are from ministry of home new delhi.175 millions Pakistani has got the nuclear wepons and hindu led government is not dare to attack Pakistan.on other hand Dalits constitute about 175 millions but who are being raped and killed by hindus and their hindu led government.
kumarpush said
Mr Murlidharan,Please donot tell the dalit nation from where we get the fund to run the dalit nation.Indian news papers which is costing 75 rupees but sold in 2 to 4 rupees ,one should ask how hindus run the news papers.Hindu led government had given 5 crores rupees to CII to run the hindu shows in Newyork.India is being run by hindu toilet papers(Indian news papers) and buisiness lobby who are financing the hindu political organisation .Hindus are kiling muslims ,dalits ,buddhist and christians in day in and day out ,in return indian news papers are protecting the hindu led government in India.recently satyam comuter was ban by world organisation on charge of kick back and stealing the datas.Laxmi mittal was finned 330 millions dollar on charge of fixing steel prize. Tata motor had begged from labout government from UK to finance the Land rover .time is not far away these hindu buisiness lobby will be out from world forum who are running the show by keeping dalits and muslims out from their organisation.
Dilip Muralidaran said
@kumarpush are you fuckin retarded? My question was “Where and how is dalit nations funds (money) spent?”
Answer the question. I don’t need to know if hindu’s are barbaric or if muslims are. Neither of them are sane anyways.
Answer the question posted. “WHERE DOES DALIT NATION SPEND ITS FUNDS ON AND HOW IS IT SPENT?” As an NGO according to RTI i DEMAND the balance sheet of Dalit Nation to be published and made available to me.
happyhindu said
Kumarpaush @ Kureela @ various other names,
You guys are such a shame to yourselves –
you promote enemity between indians and pakistanis in the name of religion, you promote enemity between indians and srilankans in the name of religion, you promote enemity between two hindus in the name of caste,
you promote enemity in any and every possible way.
you are loaded with hate and anger for what ?
Kureela said
You hindus are running about six national dailies which is costing 75 rupees for each news papers ,you hindus are selling it for 2 to 4 rupees means who are financing the news papers,you hindus are not able to tolerate dalitnation which is not a even national news papers.All Indian news papers run by buisiness lobbies in India in return their editors will get Rajya Sabha or other board chairmenships.Daily Pioneer which is being published by delhi is on loss for 7 years which was financed by thappar groups.Hindustantimes is being financed by Birdla groups.Hindu led government in India and in states is running the government with the help of hindu toilet papers(Indian news papers) and in return politician get mony from Hindu buisiness men.Indian governmet had paid 4 crores to CII to give dinner to Mr Clinton in Newyork.Dear Hindus ,time is not faraway when hindu buisiness men will be thrown out from the world.According to Financial times and wall stret jounals,American government is going to tightened the noose around Ambani Brothers,Mr Laxmi mittal was finned 360 millions dollor on charge of f ixing the steel prize.Tata had begged for his company In UK.Satyam compuer has been banned by united nation on charge of kick back and stolen datas.Hindu led government is running the government for hindus only where dalits and muslims have no benifits.time is not far away where seprate electorate and seprate solution will be demanded by muslims and dalits combine in near future.
kumarpush said
Dear Murlidharan and Happyass hole hindu,you hindus have no right to ask balance sheets or account details,You go ask balance sheet from RSS<VHP and Bajrang Dal and BJP.you go and ask bJP from where they got 2.5 crores rupees.you hindus are born corrupt and asking us to show the balance sheet.
kumarpush said
Dear Buddhist and dalit bandhus,Agenda for 2009 in India should be seprate electorate and seprate settlement.Only 6% of Indian population is dependend on services whether It is private or Government and remaining are dependent on land and mineral resources.Time has come dalits should demand for seprate electorate where we can choose our reprensentative for Parliament and states .At the moment Our MP and MLA are choosen by hindu votes as our votes have no value means, distributed among reserve candidates.For reserve seats ,only dalit should votes not any barbaric hindus.Next agenda should be seprate states for dalits in each states because we are different from barbaric hindus.
happyhindu said
Kureela,
By propagating such falsehood, what are you trying to achieve?
What has biz failures got to do with muslims-dalits combine for a seperate electorate?
kumarpush said
Dalits constitutes 175 million population and they are being killed,raped by your clans.Seprate electorate only send true dalits and and muslims representive in Parliament and state assembly not hindu bummlickers.
kumarpush said
Seprate electorate only send true dalits and and muslims representive in Parliament and state assembly not hindu bummlickers.
dilipmuralidaran said
@kumarpush appeal to authority is not an acceptable answer. the balance sheet details of RSS and VHP is out there on their website in the form of meeting minutes. I dont care about numbers since everyone cooks them up. give me facts and approx figures about where you money comes from and how it is being used to help dalits (since u claim to be the saviour of dalits)
as for my business, you are an NGO you stupid coot. I have every right as per RTI to ask for documentation you dumb ass bitch.
FYI, Dilip is my name. Dont talk to my last name. Your stupid as illiterate self cannot even identify the first name in a name properly. No wonder you ideas are like yourself. majorly fucked up and useless.
kureela said
Happyindu,This is not falsehood ,it is reality why your rastha Pita mr Gandhi went for fast till death in 1935 which is known as Poona Pact.seprate electorate had snatched by mr Gandhi and their hindu goons and dalits are suffering because of that.
C.L.CHUMBER said
UNCULTURED PEOPLE ALWAYS USE ABUSIVE LANGUAGE !!!!!
happyhindu said
Happyindu,This is not falsehood ,it is reality why your rastha Pita mr Gandhi went for fast till death in 1935 which is known as Poona Pact.seprate electorate had snatched by mr Gandhi and their hindu goons and dalits are suffering because of that.
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Kureela,
Why did “dalits” ask for a seperate religion status during Gandhi’s time?
Why did Ambedkar covertly support the British?
Self-appointed dalits like Chumber have spoken so much about Ambedkar versus Gandhi. Then why are you publishing in Ambedkar Times about celebrating Independence Day?
Chumber, Why are you celebrating Independence Day when it was Gandhi that brought you independence not Ambedkar?
Neither Ambedkar nor EVR ever foresaw the current day scenario of economic liberalization or social change. Then why are you talking about a seperate electorate now?
kumarpush said
Dilip,You hindu fucker ,take off your ass from this forum and If we are NGO still you donot have any rights to ask for balance sheet.we donot give any shits to hindus or their hindu led government.keep your RTI in your Bharat Mata ass .
kumarpush said
Dear happy hindu,Seprate electorate had given to dalits by british who were knowing that joint electorate will be no use for dalits.Gandhi went to fast till death for 24 days and his wife Kasturba came to dr Ambedkar ask bhiksha for her suhag life,and Gandhi told they will do every thing to bring dalit up but these hindu fucker never did any thing to dalits.Dr Ambedkar never supported british coverly,we and dr Ambedkar supported British openly.Who told you that dalits are celebrating the Independent days.We celebrate as Black day dear Happy India.Their is no BLACK COLOR IN INDIAN FLAG,FOR DALITS,15TH AUGUST IS A BLACK DAY, DALITS WILL CELEBRATE INDEPEDENT DAY WHEN THEY WILL GET SEPRATE SETTLEMENT AWAY FROM BARBARIC HINDUS.
C.L.CHUMBER said
Dr. Ambedkar did not support the Britishers .He persuaded the Government at that time to treat as human beings because the Indo Aryan Vaidik Hindus treat the aboriginal Indians as untouchables .The Indo Aryan Vaidik Hindus banned to enter in their schools .This is on the record and government had to made the laws.
Mr. Gandhi fought for independence of the Indo Aryan Vaidik Hindus and he was against the independence of the aboriginal Indians . Mr.Gandhi preached Ram Rajya which was based on Manu simrity .He was the secret agent of the Brahmins and capitalists ( Baniyas ). It is irony that a fanatic Brahmin Nathu Ram Godse killed Mr. Gandhi in the capitalist`s ( a Baniya ) Birla House , New Delhi .Mr. Gandhi was very lust ful . You may read Mr. L.R. Balley`s book in Hindi ” Rangila Gandhi – Lustful Gandhi which can be had from the Bhim Patrika fortnightly , Dr. Ambedkar Road , Jalandhar City – 144003 , Punjab .
I used to watch the Lal Kila , New Delhi independence day near about 1964 AD with my father .But later my father stooped to visit .He said that this was the independence of the exploiters Brahmins and capitalists . Now the Independence Day celebrations are shows of the government employees who are compelled to attend the functions. Others people have no interest in the independence day celebrations .
The govt. had increased 60% pay of the govt. employees .The govt. increased three times pay of judges of High courts / supreme courts and the President of Indian .The Punjab govt. increase only Rs.600/_ mly from Rs. 2600/_ to Rs.3200/_ mly. How can a family manage his expenses with Rs. 3200/- ?
The Brahmins and capitalists created economic liberalization modified system to loot the masses .Dr. Ambedkar had already declared Brahmins and capitalists two enemies of the masses .India is governed by America .Dr. Chandan Mittra ex finance minister of West Bengal was offered the post of finance minister before Mr. Manmohan Singh in the cabinet of Mr.P.V. Narsimha Rao PM of India but Dr. Mittra turned down the offer . He recorded all this in his autobiography – A Prattler`s tale : Bengal , Marxism and Governance ( Samya , Rs 595 ).Then Mr. Manmohan Singh was appointed finance minister and the economic liberalization policies of the global capitalists were implemented by the Brahmins in India .
Now the home minister Mr. P. Chidambram announced his visit to USA to hand over the proofs regarding the Mumbai Terror 26/11/2008 .India has ambassadors in almost every country .Why are not these proofs handed over
to USA through India`s ambassador / high commissioner in USA . Why not hand over to U.N.O. ? The present rulers are the stooges of the foreigners !Is there any doubt ?
Two years ago , a book seller suggested me a book ” The Second Partition .” I told him that I have dozens books in English ,Hindi ,Punjabi , Urdu and Bangla on partition .He said ,” Mr.Chumber ! this book is not on that partition .This book enlights us about the partition in society on bad economic policies of the govts. ” I took that book in my hands and read its title cover with care .The book was written by a renowned and daring S. Patwant Singh .The title was – ” The Second Partition Fault-Lines in India`s Democracy .” ( Hay House India ,New Delhi http://www.hayhouse.co.in).
There will be soon an independence movement to liberate the aboriginal Indians from the Brahmins and capitalists .Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram`s movement`s name is ” Social transformation and economic emancipation .” The anti-democracy Brahmins and capitalists will have to surrender to the Indian constitution and discard the Manu Simirity mentality !!!!!
kumarpush said
Dear Happyhindu,Dalits did ask for seprate electorate and British did give them but mr Gandhi went fast till death to reduce his wait and kasturba Gandhi fallen on Dr Ambedakr feet for biksha for her suhag.Dr Ambedakr was very kind he gave life to Mr Gandhi but gandhi went back from his words.How you know we celebrate Independent days .15 th august we celebarate as black day.THIER IS NO BLACK COLOR IN INDIAN FLAG .175 MILLION DALITS ARE STLL SLAVES IN HINDU LED GOVERNMETN.WE WILL HAVE SEPRATE ELECTORATE AND SEPRATE SETTLEMENT.PEOPLE ALWAYS REDICULE ABOT NEW THINGS ,GUY WHO INVENTED THE ELECTICITY WAS REDICULED BY PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO RUN THE WIRE ON POLE AND THEN PASSING THE ELECTICITY.FOR YOU AND YOUR HINDU LED GOVERNMENT MIGHT BE NEW A SEPRATE ELECTORATE.WE WILL AHVE A SEPRATE ELECTORATE AND SEPRATE SETTLEMENT.JAI BHEEM
C.L.CHUMBER said
Please read ” stoped ” instead of ” stooped ” in 2nd line of 3rd paragraph .
dilipmuralidaran said
@kumarpush: I’m an atheist. Piss off.
happyhind said
Kumarpaush@Kureela,
You are again spreading falsehood by bringing Kasturba Gandhi in between. Looks like you guys will stoop to anything.
Now who is practicing untouchability against you? If there is anyone, you have every right and MUST take that particular individual to task. It is foolish to attack the hindu religion or communites.
If one ‘dalit’ is corrupt, should we brand all dalits as corrupt and crooks? Btw, the most number of corrupt people in governement offices I have come across are dalit surnames at all levels.
mesquiteice said
Kumarpush,
you said”keep your RTI in your Bharat Mata ass .”
If you dont understand value of a “Mata” i leave it to you. But all i want to ask you is what do you get by demeaning your own mother, who created, fed, and gave you life. What wrong did she do. She is the one who created people like you to fight for the downtrodden.
On a different note, I can understand that you have problems, but will your problems get solved by hating others.
When blind, deaf and dumb people are able to compete and be true indians, why is that you are propogating a break away theory. Can you work and succedd on par with others. Why are you feeling downtrodden.
We are brothers and can never be seperated. For the 60-70 years that you live in this earth, what do you acheive by spreading hatered. People who tried to spread hatered on “any ground” have vanished. Like Hitler, Mussolini, etc. People who spread love are alone remembered jesus, buddha etc.
Why do you want to run behind “HINDUISM” as though it is the only religion and as if you are being forced to adopt it. Why do you feel that Dalits are underprivilieged. HINDUISM, it is just like so many other religions.
You are trying to politically motivate people to fight with each other on some grounds are the other. The bigger problem is that you do not understand that HATRED can never uplift anyone. Only LOVE can.
May the light of love be us
kumarpushp said
mr Murlidharan, I never met you and donot you that why I am writting your sirname.minority of hindus who are still having umblical cord attached to hindu dharma called Atheist,all hindu communist are athetist.
kumarpushp said
Dear Chumber, thanks for correction ,diffinitely, Dr Ambedkar parsuaded british for dalit rights.
kumarpushp said
Mr Rao,Please donot threatend the Chumber,you are a psychiatist patient you should be Psychiatrist hospital,we can complain to GMC and NHS trust means your name will srtruck off from GMC.I would say any complaint to GMC will stop you working in UK.You hindus are milking NHS and supporting the RSS<VHP<BJP.you hindus were not able to save the Shambuka in england ,you should leave the board and never ever thretend any body.dalits know how to give you two fingers in UK and In India.
C.L.CHUMBER said
THE SEPARATE ELECTORATE MEANS THAT THE SCs VOTERS ONLY WILL ELECT THEIRS MLAs / MPs WHO ALSO BELONG TO THE SCs CATEGORIES .THESE ELECTED MLAs/ MPs WILL HAVE TO SINCERE TOWARDS THEIRS COMMUNITIES . THIS SYSTEM IS ADOPTED IN THE ELECTION OF THE SHAROMANI GURDWARA PARBANDHAK COMMITTEE , AMRITSAR .THE SIKH VOTERS ELECT THE SIKH CANDIDATES .
happyhind said
Dilip,
If you have not already realized by now, Chumber is a typical baiter. He spews lies and claims to use parliamentary language himself.
He infuriates others with his depraved allegations, then when others use bad language he will say, see how the vaidik abusers are abusing me, or you are abusing me because i am an sc/st, etc.
That way he tries to garner sympathy for himself. Such people have no self-esteem at all because he is truly a psychiatric case.
Am told its a classic case of maniac depression, the kind that talks about shooting people, asking people to go drown / die, indirectly advocating violence, the kind that says he learnt lesson on self-esteem after he beat up a dog, etc.
Such people usually are created because of continously feeling battered and lost in various walks of life, and to find a blame clutch to hold on to, they start likening religion and caste as the cause for their predicament.
Due to poverty and various situations, such cases are aplenty in India. And we, the rest of the better off folk are in a way responsible for their situation.
Usually they are not successful people, but they beleive they are huge. He considers himself important enuf for press conferences, talks about world leaders, etc. Such people in their madness will also want to die to claim to be martyr. Such ppl will do anything to seek attention.
You saying that you are an atheist will not matter to him. Anyone who abuses him, even if he is a fellow ‘dalit’, will still be a vaidik abuser to him. Its typical of bipolar / maniac depression to have reasoning faculties turned off or wired differently. Chumber is literally developing into a full blown case.
So, i request you not to give him a chance to talk about ‘vaidik abusers’. There is no point in using sexually explicit language in anger. Call him panni, idiot, pisachi, anything you want (btw that actually makes little or no diff to him), but please refrain from sexually explicit language while talking to ppl like him. Its sexually explicit language they thrive on and i request you not to give him such opportunity. Such people actually have a very low idea of women inside their head.
As such, nobody will care about ppl like him (he better realize and accept that). The prob is that he is a self-appointed politicians misguding poor people.
We do not want poor illiterate people being fooled by Chumber into thinking that hindu religion and brahmins are responsible for their poverty. Am certain, the man receives funds from somewhere. But lets not talk about it at the moment. You may pursue dalitnation for funding sources, but for now please leave Chumber out of it.
Thanks.
happyhind said
Mr. Gandhi was very lust ful . You may read Mr. L.R. Balley`s book in Hindi ” Rangila Gandhi – Lustful Gandhi which can be had from the Bhim Patrika fortnightly , Dr. Ambedkar Road , Jalandhar City – 144003 , Punjab .
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Great. So the dalit mafia like Bhim Patrika has also been publishing other people’s lust levels. There no end to the level you goons will stoop to.
Your selection of books is to thrive on rubbish to claim its true. No wonder you keep your mouth shut when someone asks you for proof from actual scriptures.
You are always so crassly obsessed with stuff intended to demean others. By chopping off others’ heads no one has ever elevated his own. Belittling others only show how much you are mentally depraved and sick.
Spereading falsehood, targetting hindu religion, targetting one community, etc are just excuses. You guys are clearly anti-indian.
Kumarpaush, If you are so pissed about independence, please stop celebrating independence day and ask the indian government to air-drop all of you to Afghanistan or Pakistan, your original homeland. It wud be good riddance to bad rubbish. And sure, with lesser population, we will have lesser dirt strewn, lesser stress on resources; and we know to sweep our roads and clean our toilets ourselves.
There is not a single chamar isolated with Hgr9 to this day, only Hgr3 so far, Afghan-Paki north-west breed. You guys were defeated by the indo-aryans and absorbed into the indian-society at lower levels. The kings just hired a brahmin to write social codes of conduct to keep the defeated folk socially low or outcast from villages. So who is to blame for that now?
In those times, kings either won and elevated themselves as kshatriya or got defeated and moved down as shudras; shorn of titles, ritual rights, and everything. Becoming a shudra never stopped anyone from reconsolidating to gain power again. People went up and down. Now who is to blame for that now?
Yes sure Chumber, how can a family manage with Rs3200 a month. The salary of government doctors serving in some interior villages is not more than Rs.2000 a month. And they cannot have private practice there since no one will pay. The villages are so poor. And a senior doc gets Rs.5000. Nobody’s salary is being decided based on caste. So who is to blame for that?
Obviously its all bcoz the government is poor due to bad economic policies and corruption. And who is doing the corruption? Please do not be stupid enuf to say that ‘dalits’ are not corrupt. Where did religion and caste come in between. Its each man’s fight for limited resources.
Equating brahmins to capitalists, making noise about stupid things, are all just excuses. You just want to keep the society divided for your own means, to make money out of it. Neither will you integrate nor will you allow others to integrate. Its like a business for you.
You guys are just paid agents to do the missionary work or Paki-China work of weakening the indian economy.
When you get money to convert and be converted and do all the nonsense you do, why cannot you admit in plain and simple terms that Religion is just business for you.
And Chumber, a mad maniac steeped in cheap mentally sick dramatics like you (the kind that likes being abused to wear his abuses as medals), misleads the illiterate / poor with such rubbish publications. As long as people like you exist, India will certainly remain poor.
kumarpushp said
Dear4 happyhindu,why you are so angry with Chamar,one chamar was born in kashi nagri ,his name was Ravi Dasa who is a tenth gury of sikh religion,he had fucked you hindus spritually,even your hindu king were proserated in font of Ravi Dasa.Any how I donot want to go in details.Gandhi was killed by brahmins but none of hindus was killed but when sikh had killed Indira gandhi then 10000 sikh were butured in hindu sposored genocide.You must read Rangeela Gandhi,It is true story that why hindu led government in not going to courts.I donot celebrate Independent day.real problems is you and RSS areis that you people telling the world that dalits are hindus and you get back from dalit what dalits feel about hindus and their 33 crores gods and godeses.
kumarpushp said
Dear Mesquite,Yes I did say keep RTI in your Bharar Mata ass.every 6 hour ,one dalit woman is being raped by hindus and every 12 hour,one dalit man is being by killed by hindus.How you can say you are living in civilized country.you should give some advice to RSS<VHP<Bajrang Dal and BJP also.Bharat Mata is for you hindus for us nothing.dalits are awaiting for seprate electorate and seprate settlement.
kumarpushp said
Dear happyhindu,go and look for any book on Poona Pact and you will see how kasturba spread her Achal in front of Dr Ambedkar with tearful eyes for Biksha for her husband life.
Dilip Muralidaran said
@happyhind,
Point noted. Chumber was never the discussion from day one. For all i care, chumber can go to take a hike and i would care less.
My problems are funding. Where does dalit nation get its funds from and how is it used? If Dalit Nation is really a Non profit organization for the welfare of a deprived community such as dalits then they are LEGALLY bound to declare where money comes and goes from.
These Dalit nation buggers are sitting in the UK. Which gives me a suspicion that they are funded by Islamic terrorist outfits. UK & Europe is quite liberal a place for christian fundamentalism but Islamic rebellion is quite abundant there.
If they are really so then these folks may also be funding other illegal outfits and the Government intelligence agencies need to know of this so that they can make arrests before something happens like what happened in mumbai.
mesquiteice said
Dear Kumarpushp,
Firstly, we need to find out who is the culprit. Were all the rapists in all the cases non-dalits. If Dalit men rape dalit women, then what ? This is a human rights problem and not religious or caste problem.
I feel sorry and appreciate your empathy for dalit women, but why are you worried only about dalit sisters. Do you know, that so many of our non-dalit sisters are also being raped every second. If your allegation is about rape, why bring religion and country into it. Rape will happen where Values fail (without referance to country/religion/caste/creed/race/colour etc. It has nothing to do with Bharat Mata. Bharat Mata never asked anyone to rape.
This has nothing to do with religion either. It is about wheter a person are human being or not. Beasts do not understand values and do not respect other freedom.
Also I am nobody to advice RSS/VHP etc. But if what you are telling is true and if you can prove in a public forum like this that they only committed this on Dalit Women, you would have enlightened a lot of people like me to information that may help us in deciding whom we should support when time comes. It goes without saying that all offenders would be taken to task.
happyhind said
Kumarpush,
When did i say i am angry with chamar.
I only pointed out the actual reason why you guys were absorbed into the lower rungs of the social ladder.
There are better things to do in life than reading Rangeela Gandhi. You guys are excellent at cooking up stories. Wonder why no one is making use of that talent. Quite a publication scene you have. Ramayana is different, Valmiki is different, Kabir is different, wow…next i suppose you will say George Bush is Russian because Jeb is originally an Indian.
All you guys do is manipulate scriptures to churn out a cartload of trash. And you think that by doing that you are so-called elevating yourselves or whatever rubbish social positions. Do you think anyone cares about such things? All it takes to improve social position is just money.
Do what you want. And who cares really. With this level of info-availability you guys must be really crazy to think that people will beleive the stuff you guys churn out.
Right now, am bothered only about reservations. Nothing else. You guys have not even skimmed thru any hindu scripture, all you do is read trash published by missionary mafia, no wonder you talk about 33 crore gods like a typical muslim.
Thanks dude. I have had my day. Goodbye and God bless.
C.L.CHUMBER said
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KUMARPUSH said
YES I AM HERE TO GIVE ANSWER TO THESE HINDUS.
C.L.CHUMBER said
PLEASE READ ” WHAT CONGRESS AND GANDHI HAVE DONE TO THE UNTOUCHABLES VOL. 9 OF WRITINGS AND SPEECHECHES OF BABA SAHEB AMBEDKAR ” PUBLISHED BY THE EDUCATION DEPTT. , MAHARASHTRA GOVERNMENT FOR POONA PACT AND THE MISDEEDS OF MR. M.K. GANDHI AND MODERN VAIDIK HINDUS !!!!!
kumarpushp said,
January 6, 2009 @ 10:17 pm
Dear happyhindu,go and look for any book on Poona Pact and you will see how kasturba spread her Achal in front of Dr Ambedkar with tearful eyes for Biksha for her husband life.
happyhind said
Dilip,
Good u understood.
I thought u might hv already understood from the way chumber ignored the worst of abuses, but registered, remembered and hurled back abuses of only one type – rape (after that the word, the next word he hurls back is “mad”). All others hit a blank (once this is brought to his notice ofcourse he will be more aware).
happyhind said
kumarpaush,
The fates of nations and millions of people are not decided by one woman or man.
Its decided when millions support one man.
So stop these rubbish stories of Kastuba asking biksha for husband’s life to curb dalit rights and nonsense. That man fasted practically his whole life. Kasturba should have cried and messed up all her life then. She didn’t. She was a real wife to a real man.
KUMARPUSH said
Hay Hindu santa Ram,your satyam company chief Raju rama Lingam accepted the Fraud ,He is like your god Rama.All hindus are born corrupt as their gods and godeses.Once Indian ex PM told thatcorruption is running in hindu blood.shame on you hindus and your hindu led governmet.
happyhindu said
Kumarpush,
I read your previous post only now.
If your intension is to fuck hinduism, then stop posting stuff addressed to me right away.
I give cheapios like you less than a hoot, not even a damn.
Do what u want. Cook up numbers of dalits being killed, ask for seperate state, cook up tales of holocaust, call bharat mata names, promote enmity between hindu-muslim, hindu-sikh, hindu-buddhist, india-pakistan, india-srilanka, india-china, spread cock and bull mullah stories about hindus, hindu gods, fool dalits, target dalai lama, target tibetans, target gandhi, etc
You are correctly sitting in pakistan with terror training camps located perfectly along the himalayan faultline way, destained to be wiped out in one swift stroke of the next big quake. Pray for jannat. Allah taallah has already booked slots in jahannum for you guys.
No matter how many kafirs you gun down, no matter how much you shout and beseech Allahoakbar along the way, no matter how much you beg Allah for houries, you guts are destained for jahannum. Remember they say waman yaamal mithqala tharatin sharran yarahu…
Goodbye.
C.L.CHUMBER said
THANKS HAPPY HINDU FOR YOUR TRUTH “We do not want poor illiterate people being fooled by Chumber into thinking that hindu religion and brahmins are responsible for their poverty.”
THEN WHO IS / ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR POVERTY ? ? ? ? ?
THE HINDUS BLAMED AMBEDKAR THE STOOGE OF THE BRITISHERS BUT LATER ON HE DRAFTED THE CONSTITUTION .HE WAS BESTOWED BY THE BHARAT RATNA AWARD BY THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT POSTHUMOUSLY !
MR. HAPPY HINDU ! BEAR IN YOUR GOOD SELF`S MIND THAT YOUR BLAMES ARE JUST LIKE SOME ONE SAY THAT YOUR WIFE / MOTHER / SISTER OR DAUGHTER IS CHARACTERLESS . I LOVE MY DIGNITY . DON`T CHALLENGE MY DIGNITY WITHOUT ANY PROOF , OTHERWISE I WILL BLAME ON YOU SUCH SERIOUS TYPES THAT YOU WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE DEFINITELY .I HAVE REFUTED YOUR CHARGES SO MANY TIMES AND DARED TO CHALLENGE YOU TO INFORM THE PROPER LEGAL AUTHORITY . BUT YOU HAVING THE MAD SENSE CONTINUED .
happyhind said,
January 6, 2009 @ 1:53 am
Dilip,
We do not want poor illiterate people being fooled by Chumber into thinking that hindu religion and brahmins are responsible for their poverty. Am certain, the man receives funds from somewhere. But lets not talk about it at the moment. You may pursue dalitnation for funding sources, but for now please leave Chumber out of it.
happyhind said
Ok cool…Now i get it….All this was just about advertizing…Like a trailer..To get ppl to go buy books to boost sales of books….LOL…
Wow..am impressed…first make a splash with “Hear ye all…We tell you a story you never heard before…There lived a God by name Chumber..Did you know that God had raped”….
Then people start arguing and discussing like “no, not possible, how can that be”…
Then the trailer continues…”One day kabir came, Then brahma came…but Kabir was in the form of a female. And Chumber mistook Brahma also for female..but Chumber already was in the form of a female.”
Unbaked people give sane response..”Dear writer, You are not stating the truth. Its not like that. It is like that”
Trailer gets irritated..”You better read my book. Because it is the truth. Or go drown and die..it is true that Chumber was already female..but Brahma wanted to be male…and you must read and beleive it..”
Then semi-baked people start a full scale fight..”No, you liar. You horrible man. You are an Idiot. You nincompoop. That’s not possible. Only I know the truth, you don’t. Those books are not true.”
Then the trailer gets real chilly gooly hot..”How dare you argue against my book. You better apologize to me within 2 days from now..Or I will file a case..and your goodself will be forced to buy my books”
People get hotter..”Arsehole, dumbhead, go file a case. I won’t buy your book. If you cannot prove Brahma is not female, then just buzz up, you madman, you cheapskate politician.”
Trailer gets all important..”You better know I am so and so. And I have filed a case to make sure you will buy my book. I hereby return your abuse to you and your family members. Those who do not buy my books are mad. Only I am so good. I will call everyone a rapist because I love rape. But I never abuse”
Then people loose interest…”Awww…That’s not interesting…Who bloody cares who you are..I cudn’t care less even for Sonia Maino…I give a damn about you and your jail, I still don’t wanna buy your book”
Trailer says “I am of scientific mind. I only think about rape. I will write books only about rape and you must buy it”
By now people have all become very tired. They tried leaving before. But now its toooo boring. So they say “the intro itself sounds so really dumb..brahma female and crap…who really cares what it is..”
Then the rookie bookie gets all smart and says “No…the books are great and sooo cheap…only Rs.2…we made it so “chepiooo cheapppp”….you must buy it…everyone must buy it even if you do not read it”
Then people say..”sigh, forget it…Its not going anywhere”.
But bookie never gets tired…coz that’s what he does for a living…write and sell boiler stuff…he goes on “you must buy it. Ambedkar wrote it. I have discussed so many times. I am so logical that my brain says only I am good. But you happy vaidik abusers are so bad. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.”
And the bookie never stops. He sells and sells and sells. Nobody buys and buys and buys…
The end.
happyhind said
First the puranas got doctored and interpolated so one group cud bake in self-importance and make money with give me a cow than only you will go to heaven. God knows where that group merged into.
Then every bloody community that cooked up less than 300 years ago started writing its own purana to show “wow how great we are”, “we descended from a mouse”, “we came from tip of mars”, “we are this caste”, “we are this spaceship”…so important you know…”we had done nothing, but we are everything and we never keep our big mouths shut”..”we like to prove someone born in 1520 was our caste”..”We are so proud to be humble because we wear the thread, pray to swords and show off our smelly moustaches..”
Finally, every tom, dick and harry started writing par-boiler stuff with titles like
“Bharat Mata ka doosra beta Chumber. 50 paise”
“Rangeela Chumber. Rs.1”
“Dalit Nariyon ki Samasya Chumber. Rs.2”
“Sadak pe baitha Pagal Aadmi. Rs.5”
“Main Gadha Hoon. Rs.10”
Man, no wonder we are so stuck…..
KUMARPUSH said
Dear Chumber ,Please have alook on Finanacial times and wall street journal about Rama Lingam and Satyam.All companies who run by hindus are fraud including Infosys ,Ambani,Laxmi Mittal.I will give details about Satyam.
happyhind said
Guys this is enuf nonsense. Goons in the guise of politicians, helpless lawmakers, law-enforcers being dictated, leads everyone to the dustbin. Its each to themselves. Bye.
hh said
All companies who run by hindus are fraud including Infosys ,Ambani,Laxmi Mittal.I will give details about Satyam.
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Good.
Then dumbheads should not ask for reservation in private companies. The best place for you guys is Indian Government. Because your Ambedkar made sure it works so efficiently with dumedkars asking “chaai, paan, ka paisa” at every step, every stage.
C.L.CHUMBER said
I HAD WROTE THE NAMES OF WRITERS AND PUBLISHERS WITH THEIR ADDRESS , TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBER .
BUT YOU DID NOT WROTE THE SAME .PLEASE WROTE THE SAME SO THAT THE READERS INCLUDING MYSELF MAY PURCHASE AND READ THESE BOOKS .
MR. C.RAJGOPAL ACHARYA , EX GOVERNOR GENERAL OF INDIA AND EX CM OF MADRASS ( NOW TAMILNADU ) WROTE A BOOK ” AMBEDKAR REFUTED .” BUT HE COULD NOT REPLY DR. AMBEDKAR`S BOOK “WHAT GANDHI AND AMBEDKAR DONE TO THE UNTOUCHABLES ? ”
MR. M.K.GANDHI`S SON MR. HIRA LAL GANDHI APPROACHED U.P.`S DALIT REVOLUTIONARY LEADER SWAMI ACHHUTA NAND ( 6.5.1879- 22.7.1933 ) FOUNDER OF THE ADI-HINDU MAHASABHA HQ AT KANPUR TO ALURE HIM but Sawami Ji showed a stale piece of loaf from his pocket . Sawami Ji asked Hira Lal how he dared to test his devotion towards his people.lATER ON MR.AGGARWAL WROTE A BOOK ” SWAMI JUTA NAND – SWAMI SHOE MAKER ” TO HUMMILIATE SWAMI JI .BUT HE SUCCEEDED IN AWAKENING HIS UNTOUCHABLE PEOPLE .I FEEL PROUD THAT WAS THE MAIN SPEAKER ON HIS BIRTHDAY ON 6TH MAY ,2008 AT KANPUR ( U.P.) AND AGAIN I WAS THE CHIEF GUEST OF HIS 75TH DEATH ANNIVERSARY ON 22ND JULY 2008 .
THE RAPIST,RACIST AND FASCIST HINDU GODS AND THEIRS FOLLOWERS ARE THE REAL PROBLEMS OF THE SCs , STs , OBCs AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES .
I AM THE SON OF MY ONLY BIOLOGICAL MOTHER ! YOUR FRIEND MR. SANJAM SAID THAT LAXMAN WOULD RAPE MY MOTHER AND SISTERS . WILL LAXMAN RAPE BHARAT MATA OR NOT ?
WHAT IS ” RANGEELA ” IN ME NOTED YOUR GOOD SELF ?
YOU ARE FAN AND FOLLOWER OF YOUR ” RANGEELAS-LUSTFUL GODS ” !!!!!
Sadak pe baitha Pagal Aadmi -Mr.Happy Hindu @ lavnya. Rs.5″
“Main ( Mr.Happy Hindu @ lavnya.) Gadha Hoon. Rs.10″
I appreciate your good self that you issued me certificate that I am on the right path of my revolutionary forefathers !
happyhind said,
January 8, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
Finally, every tom, dick and harry started writing par-boiler stuff with titles like
“Bharat Mata ka doosra beta Chumber. 50 paise”
“Rangeela Chumber. Rs.1″
“Dalit Nariyon ki Samasya Chumber. Rs.2″
“Sadak pe baitha Pagal Aadmi. Rs.5″
“Main Gadha Hoon. Rs.10″
Man, no wonder we are so stuck…..
C.L.CHUMBER said
I READ 10 NEWS PAPERS AT HOME .THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT IN INDIA .
INDIA IS FULLY UNDER CONTROL BRAHMINS ( BRAHMINISM ) AND BANIAS ( CAPITALISTS ) .
IN JALANDHAR ( PUNJAB ) , MR. P. CHIDAMBRAM FORMER FINANCE MINISTER OF INDIA TOLD TO PRESS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT WAS WORRIED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ( OF VAIDIK HINDUS ! ) AND LEAST WORRIED ABOUT POVERT ERADICATION .
INDIA IS A COUNTRY OF SCAMS !!!!!
KUMARPUSH said,
January 8, 2009 @ 10:44 pm
Dear Chumber ,Please have a look on Finanacial times and wall street journal about Rama Lingam and Satyam.All companies who run by hindus are fraud including Infosys ,Ambani,Laxmi Mittal.I will give details about Satyam.
hh said
THEN WHO IS / ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR POVERTY ? ? ? ? ?
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After listening to the whole ramayan, an idiot asks who is ram.
With such level of competance, they write “research articles” and rubbish that takes people nowhere.
They want to find the “who” to play the blame game…ofcourse since they have no brain to contribute to developmental programs and no heart to be genuinely bothered.
If only those colonialists can be sued for colonial crimes and for looting us.
hh said
One law-enforcer who passed away used to often say ‘politicians are worse than terrorist’. Even on this page it is obvious why.
C.L.CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU !
I CAN PROVE THAT YOU APPRECIATED VAIDIK ABUSER MR. SANJAM .
YOU CLAIMED THAT KABIR WAS FOLLOWER OF RAMA OF AYODHYA .
I CLAIMED THAT THE NIRGUN SAINTS INCLUDING SIKH GURUS DISCARDED BRAHMA , VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS .
YOU PLEASE READ THE 4 VEDAS , 18 PURANAS , RAMAYNA , MAHABHARTA AND WILL FIND THE CHARACTERS OF THE INDO-ARYAN VAIDIK HINDU GODS .
IN ONE OF YOUR PURANA YOUR ” BHARAT MATA ” ALLURED BRAHMA , VISHANU AND SHIV TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HER .
DR. AMBEDKAR STUDIED VEDAS DEEPLY AND HE APPEALED TO THE MASSES TO DYNAMITE THE VEDAS .
THE HINDI FORTNIGHTLY ” SARITA ” IN ITS LATEST ISSUE OF JANUARY SECOND 2009 PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE OF ROMI SOOD ” KYA DARON ACHARYA KEHLANE KE PATAR THE ( WAS DARONA AN IDEAL TEACHER ?) ” IN WHICH THE WRITER EXPOSED CASTIEST DARON DISCIPLE OF CASTIEST PARSHURAM .THE WRITER WROTE DARON WAS UNNATURAL SON OF MUNI BHARDWAJ .THE WRITER ALSO EXPOSED DARON FOR NOT PERMITTING IN HIS GURUKUL TO EKLAVYA BEING SHUDRA .
RECENTLY , I PURCHASED ” THE RAMAYNA ” A MODERN TRANSLATION BY MR. RAMESH MENON PUBLISHED BY M/S HARPER COLLINS PUBLISHERS INDIA A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE INDIA TODAY GROUP , NEW DELHI ( PAPERBACK 2008 , THERE IS CLEARLY MENTIONED HOW SHARANGI RISHI WAS INVITED TO PRODUCE RAM AND HIS BROTHERS FROM DASHRATH`S THREE WIFES .OUR MODERN SOCIETY DOES NOT PERMIT THIS UNETHICAL AND ILLEGITIMATE PROCESS .IT ALSO RECORDED ALSO HOW CRUEL CASTIEST RAMA KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDRA SAINT SHAMBUK AND BANISHED HIS WIFE SITA ..
I HAD NOT HURTED SENTIMENTS OF THE HINDUS. I HAD EXPOSED RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS WHO MADE OUR PEOPLE`S LIVES HELL . YOU PEOPLE SHOULD APPOLOGIZE FOR THIS FILTHY CASTE / VARNA SYSTEM !!!!!
I WILL CONTINUE MY TASK TO EXPOSE THE EVIL GODS AND GODDESSES SO MY COUNTRY MEN MAY BE MENTALLY FREE FROM THE EVIL GODS !!!!!
happyhind said
Stop talking.
Give details of the case.
Come to court and prove whatever you want to prove.
C.L.CHUMBER said
I WANT TO PROVE THAT THE INDO ARYAN VAIDIK HINDUS WORSHIP RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS GODS ACCORDING THEIR SCRIPTURES !!!!!
YOU MAY FILE CASE TO ENDORSE THE COURT !
happyhind said
January 22, 2009 @ 9:33 am
Stop talking.
Give details of the case.
Come to court and prove whatever you want to prove.
C.L.CHUMBER said
Dear MMK Rao ji ,
You may read Mr.Bertrand Russell`s book ” Why I am not a Christan .”
Every one has fundamental right to express himself / herself in writing or by speech .Mr. Kancha Ilaiah did the same . The born-Christians are governed by manuwadi born-Christians . The so called upper caste Christians hate the ” born -Christians ” !
The born-Christians are not idiots , they are the victims of the caste/varna system of the Vaidik Hindus . Do you treat the inventors of the caste / varna system genuine persons ? The idiots are those who invented and perserved the caste / varna system till date when our esteemed constitution banned it !
Dr Gurmit Singh compiled / edited a book ” Caste among non-Hindus ” published by M/s National Publishers , New Delhi .Every citizen of India is infected by the caste / varna system invented by Brahma !!!!! We dare to declare those idiots who invented and still active to continue the caste / varna system !!!!!
MMK Rao said
January 27, 2009 @ 10:53 am
There are too many people, borne Christian, who despiste Christianity for its hollowness and the hypocrisy and even fanaticism which it engenders. Kancha Ilaiah should perhaps have countered them and written a book elaborating why those borne-Christians are idiots, and why he chose to convert. I am not asking him after all to write a book even to provide a comparative study between Christianity and Hinduism.
hh said
Dear MMK Rao ji ,
You may read Mr.Bertrand Russell`s book ” Why I am not a Christan .”
Every one has fundamental right to express himself / herself in writing or by speech .Mr. Kancha Ilaiah did the same .
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Chumber,
Can you confirm if you are the spokesperson for Kancha. Have you worked together with Kancha?
C . L . CHUMBER said
I AM A SPOKESMAN OF TRUTH . I NEVER MET, TALKED AND DID CORRESPONDENCE WITH RESPECTED MR. KANCHA ILAIAHA . I NEVER SEEN EVEN HIS PHOTO .
YOU ARISE USELESS ISSUES TO DERAIL THE E-DIALOGUE WHICH CONFIRMS THE BENT OF YOUR MANUWADI MIND .
hh said
February 3, 2009 @ 2:17 am
Chumber,
Can you confirm if you are the spokesperson for Kancha. Have you worked together with Kancha?
hh said
I AM A SPOKESMAN OF TRUTH . I NEVER MET, TALKED AND DID CORRESPONDENCE WITH RESPECTED MR. KANCHA ILAIAHA . I NEVER SEEN EVEN HIS PHOTO .
YOU ARISE USELESS ISSUES TO DERAIL THE E-DIALOGUE WHICH CONFIRMS THE BENT OF YOUR MANUWADI MIND .
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Ok so you are spokesperson only for another lunatic called VT Rajshekhar.
You can shout about derailing issues or attacking people personally or about anything you want in court.
Now just give your TADA case file number or personal proof of identity. As soo you give it, we will file a case.
C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU / DUKHI RAM !
WE ARE DISCUSSING ABOUT MR. KANCHA ILAIAHA NOT ABOUT MR. V.T. RAJSHEKAR !!!!!
I AM NOT A SPOKESMAN OF ANYONE .
hh said
February 4, 2009 @ 8:53 am
I AM A SPOKESMAN OF TRUTH . I NEVER MET, TALKED AND DID CORRESPONDENCE WITH RESPECTED MR. KANCHA ILAIAHA . I NEVER SEEN EVEN HIS PHOTO .- C.L.CHUMBER
YOU ARISE USELESS ISSUES TO DERAIL THE E-DIALOGUE WHICH CONFIRMS THE BENT OF YOUR MANUWADI MIND .
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Ok so you are spokesperson only for another lunatic called VT Rajshekhar.
C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU !
THERE IS NOW DR. AMBEDKAR`S CONSTITUTION !!!!!
INDIAN RAPIST GODS` FOLLOWERS FOLLOW THEIRS GODS TO RAPE EVEN THE FOREIGNERS TO GLOBALIZE THEIR RELIGION OF THE RAPISTS , RACISTS AND FASCISTS BUT THEY WILL BE PUT BEHIND BARS B`CAUSE THERE IS NO MANU-SIMRITY .
SHAME TO YOU WHO CLAIMED TO BE A MEMBER OF ISKCON AND ONCE YOU INVITED ME TO BE ITS MEMBER AND INITIATE AS BRAHMIN !!!!!
*A US national has alleged that she was molested by unknown person in an ISKCON (The International Society for Krishna Consciousness,) temple guest house in Mumbai. The Bharat Ratan highest reward for civilians winner Pt. Bhim Sain Joshi (2008 Ad) said in a function in Gujrat, “I love girls like Krishna!” Krishna deserted his wife Rukmani and loved Radha to whom Hindus worship in the temples ! Krishna is condemned in the Guru Granth Sahib for his love affairs! Please read Dr. Darshan Singh Chandigarh `s commentary and translation of Guru Granth Sahib in English .BY C.L.CHUMBER .You may have from : ( http://www.newbookcompany.com , email: contact@newbookcompany.com).
COURTESY : TO-DAY`S INDIAN HIGHLIGHTS 6TH FEBRUARY ,2009 http://www.ambedkartimes.com/
hh said
Chumber,
Just give your TADA case file number or personal proof of identity.
C . L . CHUMBER said
HAVE YOU THIS REAL NAME ? ? ? ? ?
WHY ARE YOU USING SO MANY FICTITIOUS NAMES LIKE TERRORISTS ? ? ? ? ?
Dear Happy Hindu Pal DUKHI RAM ,
You claimed so many times that you have my complete address , email address .But you did not filed any case against me .Now you are asking Mr. Kumarpushp his name and address ! Have you this real name ? You admitted in writing in this blog how many fictitious names you use in this blog !!!!! If you deny , your statement can be reproduced !!!!! B/W what are your real name , real address , real email address and real parents and your parents real names , your real wife name and your real children names ( you may write fictitious names of theirs also ! ) . Then talk gently and not in abusing and blaming language !
hh said
February 9, 2009 @ 8:50 am
Kumarpushp,
Give your name and address. We shall arrange for a long-term meeting b/w you and Chumber.
kumarpushp said
my address is with dalit voice ,we are the dalit voice parivar who are fighting war with hindus and their hindu led government.
C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU IS WASTING TIME OF ALL !
kumarpushp said
February 11, 2009 @ 11:42 pm
my address is with dalit voice ,we are the dalit voice parivar who are fighting war with hindus and their hindu led government.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THERE IS A PROVERB ‘ WHEN THE OLD COCK CROWS , THE YOUNG COCK LEARNS ‘ WHICH MEANS ALL LIVING CREATURES LEARN FROM THE SOCIETY .BUT IF WE WORSHIP AND PROJECT THE EVILS THEN HOW WE CAN EXPECT AN ETHICAL AND LAW-BINDING SOCIETY !!!!!
RESPECTED ADMINISTRATOR(S ) AND ESTEEMED VIEWERS !
As I said ,” And the current day to day developments in any field is more relevant to discuss to solve our day to day problems and near future planning .” .https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/mayavathi-as-pm-the-change-has-arrived/#comment-4953.Our administrators also tried theirs best to present us the current topics but the discussion was mainly concentrated on Indian ancient period which was also necessary TO know the bent of mind of ruling manuwadi society and theirs religious torch bearers IN PAST AND AT PRESENT . There is a proverb ‘ WHEN THE OLD COCK CROWS , THE YOUNG COCK LEARNS ‘ which means all living creatures learn from the society . But if we worship and project the evils then how we can expect an ethical and law-binding society .
Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram once said ,” We are not concerned with what manuwadis did in past with our forefathers but we will not spare anyone who do not allow to enjoy our constitutional and human rights at present .” He in an interview to the then number one weekly of India ” the Illustrated Weekly of India ‘ said ,” QUESTION : Politicians we spoke to in Delhi say that if the BSP gets too belligerent they will finish you politically.KANSHI RAM : WE WILL FINISH THEM .BECAUSE IF INDIRA CAN BE FINISHED BY A CHAMAR, ARE THESE FELLOWS GOING TO BE SAVED? WHEN WE ARE 90 PERCENT IN THE ARMED FORCES, 70 PER CENT IN THE BSF, 50 PER CENT IN THE CRPF AND THE POLICE, WHO CAN DO INJUSTICE TO US? A GENERAL NEEDS LESS BULLETS COMPARED TO JAWANS .THEY MAY HAVE GENERALS BUT NO JAWANS.QUESTION: Are you advocating an eye for an eye? KANSHI RAM : TWO EYES .I tell my followers Ek Eet Ka Jawab, Do Pathron Se ( you must retaliate for one brick with two stones ) , otherwise you are not my followers .QUESTION: So you are propagating violence.KANSHI RAM: I am propagating strength. To curb violence, I must have strength .”
To curb violence in society the Britishers gave us : !.Democratic system equal for all . 2.Judicial system equal for all .3.Constitutional system based on equality , liberty , fraternity and justice to all .4.English language which is a bridge between all Indian elites as well as the non-Indian world .Once Mr.V.T. Rajshekar ,editor . The Dalit Voice fortnightly rightly wrote ,” English is the passport of knowledge.” 5.The railway and communication system which created unity in Indians .
After Independence from the Britishers our governments tried to maintain this system but the old thinking of ruling society created hurdles by mafia and money . But it is true that the masses are taking part in the voting very actively even at the cost of theirs lives . The latest election held in our esteemed state J & K is the proof . We salute the voters of J & k state .
Now, I come to the point that I will write on day to day political developments as our sweet country is being ready to go for a decisive parliamentary ( Lok Sabha ) election expected to be held in April / May , 2009 .I feel sorry from the administrators and viewers that I mainly concentrated on the evil Gods RATHER ON THE TOPICS .I beg pardon for this and wish to clear that I have no ill will against any caste , creed , religion and area except evils and evil persons ! Our Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass advised us that evil was evil .He said that the alcohol is injurious to health as well as society even distilled from the water of the holy Ganga river ! He also advised that ‘ Mann changa taan kathauti which Ganga ‘ means if our mind is pure then even the Ganga runs in the earthen pot where a shoe-maker dips leather ! Our Adi-Mahaguru Kabir also said that He had a pious transparent mind like pious transparent the Ganga ( now the Ganga is polluted by the latrines and urine etc.of its followers ! ) and even the God recited ‘ Kabir ,Kabir ‘ ! Let us dynamite the caste / varna system to strengthen our democracy for which India is known worldwide !
I do hope that we will participate day to day political developments in a cordial way ! Thanks to all .
Sukra Charya said
To curb violence in society the Britishers gave us :
1.Democratic system equal for all .
2.Judicial system equal for all .
3.Constitutional system based on equality , liberty , fraternity and justice to all .
4.English language which is a bridge between all Indian elites as well as the non-Indian world .Once Mr.V.T. Rajshekar ,editor . The Dalit Voice fortnightly rightly wrote ,” English is the passport of knowledge.”
5.The railway and communication system which created unity in Indians .
All this can be contested.
1. and 3. The democratic society was created AFTER Independence (not BEFORE).
2. Arguable. Seeing the backlog of court cases, one wonders if we could not have designed a better one ourselves.
4. “English is the passport of knowledge.”. What rubbish. The most technologically advanced nations in the world, Japan, Germany, France, Russia do NOT use English.
5. About 90% of the rail network that we see today has been built AFTER 1947.
C .L . CHUMBER said
THERE MUST BE SOME LEGAL NORMS FOR SELECTING CANDIDATES FROM MEMBER VILLAGE PANCHYAT TO M . P . !!!!!
The political leaders of all parties are dishearted nowadays as the high commands allotted parliamentary tickets to outsiders. The Akali Dal (Badal) allotted Ludhiana and Jalandhar candidates the tickets on the joining day! BJP also allotted Amritsar and Gurdaspur tickets to outsiders in the last election and now it again going to allot ticket to a recently resigned IAS officer from Hoshiarpur. The BSP also allotted mostly tickets to outsiders in Punjab ! The Congress party is waiting the final lists of candidates to release its list of candidates . The dishearted cadre of the parties sings a sad song in Punjabi “ KI KHATTIA MAI TERI HEER BAN KE ” means what I gained after becoming your beloved ? ”
There must be some legal norms for selecting candidates from member village Panchyat to M.P. and rejecting the applicants , otherwise it will be a autocracy in the parties leading to the passiveness of democracy !
C . L . CHUMBER said
Mr. Happy Hindu !
Mr. S.S. Sabde , Commissioner ( Preventive ) , Mumbai told the press that anyone opening emails of another person or fake account or fake profile , he/she will be put behind the bars ! Please close your fake account in the name of Happy Hindu and many others , otherwise police may arrest you !
hh said
Mr. Happy Hindu !
Mr. S.S. Sabde , Commissioner ( Preventive ) , Mumbai told the press that anyone opening emails of another person or fake account or fake profile , he/she will be put behind the bars ! Please close your fake account in the name of Happy Hindu and many others , otherwise police may arrest you !
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Chumber,
Why should i open emails of an another person or have fake accounts?
You really cannot help talking like a dunce, can you?
I already told you, if you want to contact police to arrest anyone, maybe i can help you….
C . L . CHUMBER said
Mr. Happy Hindu !
You are not fit for legal fight because you did not honoured the Supreme Court judgement on ” IDIOT ” issue . You are also not fit for dialogue .I have sympathy for you as your parents and society did not traine you how to talk with others gentally . But I will regard you whether you blame or abuse me ! I treat you as child mentally .
hh said
Mr. Happy Hindu !
You are not fit for legal fight because you did not honoured the Supreme Court judgement on ” IDIOT ” issue . You are also not fit for dialogue .I have sympathy for you as your parents and society did not traine you how to talk with others gentally . But I will regard you whether you blame or abuse me ! I treat you as child mentally .
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Thanks. And i treat you as a retarded coward.
You are a criminal and you are afraid to come to court.
Please come to court. I want to see if the judge does not call you an IDIOT and send you to mental asylum.
C.L.CHUMBER said
THE RETARDED COWARDS ,CRIMINALS AND IDIOTS ARE THOSE :
( 1 ) WHO INVENTED CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !
( 2 ) WHO IMPLEMENT CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!
( 3 ) WHO FOLLOW THIS CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!
(4) WHO CRUSH THE HUMANITY BY IMPLEMENTING CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!!
( FIVE ) WHO DEFAME THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!!!
hh said
March 31, 2009 @ 7:10 am
Thanks. And i treat you as a retarded coward.
You are a criminal and you are afraid to come to court.
Please come to court. I want to see if the judge does not call you an IDIOT and send you to mental asylum.
hh said
THE RETARDED COWARDS ,CRIMINALS AND IDIOTS ARE THOSE :
( 1 ) WHO INVENTED CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !
( 2 ) WHO IMPLEMENT CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!
( 3 ) WHO FOLLOW THIS CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!
(4) WHO CRUSH THE HUMANITY BY IMPLEMENTING CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!!
( FIVE ) WHO DEFAME THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS CASTE / VARNA LIKE FILTHY SYSTEM !!!!!
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The retarded cowards, criminals and idiots who invented and implemented caste / varna system are the british. They are the ones who encouraged caste system in one direction and pretended to help distressed indians in another direction.
There is no varna no caste system today. That is why people are laughing at an idiot like you for shouting at an empty wall.
If you are not a criminal, then provide your TADA details.
C.L.CHUMBER said
WE ARE PROUD OF THE YOUTHS WHO ARE STRUGGLING HARD TO REBUILD INDIA !!!!!
Dear Viewers !
My elder son ( I call my daughters also as son ) won the DUBAI TOUR by completing the target and placing a collection of Rs. One Lac above the target and only winner in the branch of a MNC 2000 Kms away from residence !!!!! Last year , she availed the New Zealand tour .One of my relatives Invited me to visit Dubai to study the problems of the Indian workers in the United Arab Emirates of which Dubai is a state .My wife who is a government employee ( teacher ) is so much delighted on the success of her daughter that she is ready to visit Dubai with her daughter at her cost .
This an interesting story that my uncle ( brother of my father ) Master Khushi Ram ji , Joint Chief Controller ( Retd. ) of Import and Export M/O Commerce , India offered me to accompany him to Canada in 1982 AD .” Then who will struggle for the upliftment of our people , if people experienced like you migrated to foreign countries ! ,” I said to him and turned down his offer politely .My younger brother migrated to USA without my consent but he is doing the social service by http://www.ambedkartimes.com ( English ) , http://www.ambedkartimes.org ( Punjabi ) and now he launched the Ambedkar Times English monthly on 12th March , 2009 and coincidentally I discovered the historical Guru Ravidas Kund ( 7 Tanks ) in boarder district Junagarh in the Gujarat state on the same date !!!!!
After my uncle , my wife stressed me to send children to foreign countries for employment and settlement but I did not like this idea .She continued , then I said yes but asked her that our children would be highly qualified before migration .But our children refused to migrate after getting higher education like MBA ( UK ) and BSc ( Hons ) in Software Engineering ( London ) and for their higher study loans we had to pledge our home in a bank . In 2007, when our daughter was in New Zealand on tour , she phoned her mother and told that there were very decent residential buildings .My wife asked her daughter to live there but our daughter replied , ” No.I will live in India and will roam in the world .” My second son is also trying best to achieve the Dubai tour target of another MNC up to 30th April , 2009 .They both live 2000 Kms away from their home .
My son-in-law also got promoted as Deputy Manager of a private Bank .Their inter-caste and inter-state marriage will be performed in October or November 2009 as my NRI relatives and friends wish also to join this marriage .This will be a very simple and sample marriage .We are proud of the youths who are struggling hard to rebuild India !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
“We are proud of the youths who are struggling hard to rebuild India !!!!!”.
That said, you should respect those who started the task long before you did. Mr.Tata did not wait for a speech from Ambedkar – he started on his own.
C.L.CHUMBER said
IF you say NO VARNA NO CASTE THEN THE TIMES OF INDIA , THE HINDUSTAN TIMES , THE INDIAN EXPRESS , THE HINDU , THE EXCELLOR ,THE TRIBUNE DAILIES `MATRIMONIALS ARE FULL OF CASTES .
A PERSON WHO DO NOT LIVE INDIA CAN SAY LIKE THIS .
hh said
April 1, 2009 @ 8:12 am
There is no varna no caste system today. That is why people are laughing at an idiot like you for shouting at an empty wall.
Sukra Charya said
“MATRIMONIALS ARE FULL OF CASTES..”.
Chumber,
You ONLY need to worry if there is DISCRIMINATION. What’s wrong with classifying the society by professions?
hh said
WE ARE PROUD OF THE YOUTHS WHO ARE STRUGGLING HARD TO REBUILD INDIA !!!!!
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Yes the youth are struggling so hard to rebuild india because of lunatic old men like you who ruins mother india by supporting the british, china and pakistan.
You only want your family members to prosper but you want others to remain poor…you are a selfish gutter fellow, no doubt.
C . L . CHUMBER said
YOU MANUWADI PEOPLE NEVER LIKE AN HONEST AND SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON AMONG THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!!
hh said
April 3, 2009 @ 5:28 pm
WE ARE PROUD OF THE YOUTHS WHO ARE STRUGGLING HARD TO REBUILD INDIA !!!!!
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Yes the youth are struggling so hard to rebuild india because of lunatic old men like you who ruins mother india by supporting the british, china and pakistan.
MY ANSWER IS : A BRAHMIN JAWAHAR LAL NEHARU WAS STOOGE OF THE BRITISHERS .THAT IS WHY THE BRITISHERS HANDED OVER THEIR RULE TO HIM .THE OTHER BRAHMIN NATHU RAM GODSE KILLED MR. MOHAN DAS KARAM CHAND GANDHI TO STRENGTHEN THE BRAHMIN RULE UNDER NEHARU .
I AM NOT IN THE CABINET OF MR. BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA .BRAHMINS ARE IN HIS CABINET ! I NEVER SUPPORTED CHINA AND PAKISTAN . BRAHMINS CREATED PAKISTAN WHICH I ALREADY DISCUSSED IN DETAILS .
( 2 ) You only want your family members to prosper but you want others to remain poor…you are a selfish gutter fellow, no doubt.
MY ANSWER IS : HOW I WANT OTHERS TO BE POOR ? HAVE YOU ANY PROOF ? I AM NOT A SELFISH . YOU ONCE DECLARED ME KARAM YOGI !!!!! IS IT NOT TRUE ? I AM A SELFLESS PERSON WHO PLEDGED MY HOUSE FOR MY CHILDREN`S HIGHER STUDY LOAN . THEY ARE REPAYING THEIR LOAN . I BELIEVE IN ” PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH .” I MADE MY CHILDREN SELF- MADE ,SELF-RESPECTFUL SO THAT THE OTHER YOUTHS MAY LEARN FROM THEM .THEY NEVER AVAILED RESERVATION OR ANY CONCESSION !!!!! YOU STILL DO NOT DARE TO APPRECIATE THEM DUE TO YOUR MANUWADI BENT OF MIND !!!!!
YOU MANUWADI PEOPLE NEVER LIKE A HONEST AND SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON AMONG THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!!
NONAME said
Dude chumber,
Honestly, I pity you. You are nothing more than a confused man who has half baked knowledge of history, philosophy, mythology and science. A man who is not able to know or differentiate between the multi-faceted principles. First of all please stop pulling Baba sahebs name into everything. Baba Saheb Ambedkar was a great vissionary, a man with great ideals and principles who strived for the greater good of the society. He foresaw that an ideal Indian nation can be built only based on social and economic equality. He saw the reservations as a means to acheiving this social and economic equality. That is simply the reason he propsed the reservations for a decade and later on to further the duration if need arises. He never proposed the reservations for eternity the way morons like yourself and omvedt interpret. Ambedkar was a glorifying example of a man who can achieve anything with his own struggle and will power. He came up in the society through his own struggles and hard work and not with the help of any reservation. I can assure you I am neither a brahmin nor do I belong to any upper caste. Call me a ‘Dalit’ technically if you want. But I dont believe in being a Dalit nor do I believe in any caste, creed or race. There are only two catergory of people from my perspective – People who work hard and come up and lazy mongreals like yourself who blame everything on others. I am ashamed even to call myself a Dalit because of people like you. You are seriously sick and you need some treatment.
hh said
YOU MANUWADI PEOPLE NEVER LIKE AN HONEST AND SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON AMONG THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!!
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You are not an aboriginal indian. You are a stupid fellow.
C . L . CHUMBER said
WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT THE FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS ARE NOT STUPIDS ? ? ? ? ?
I NEVER ABUSE YOU BECAUSE I CAN REPLY TO YOUR ANSWERS AND YOU ABUSE ALWAYS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PROPER REPLY ALWAYS !!!!!
IS IT NOT TRUE ? ? ? ? ?
hh said
April 14, 2009 @ 9:57 am
YOU MANUWADI PEOPLE NEVER LIKE AN HONEST AND SELF RESPECTFUL PERSON AMONG THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS !!!!!
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You are not an aboriginal indian. You are a stupid fellow.
C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. SANJAY DUTT BRAHMIN AND MR. AKHILESH DAS VAISH HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE WOMEN DUE TO THEIR MANUWADI BENT OF MINDS !!!!!
A few days ago Mr. Sanjay Dutt an actor and the general secretary of the Samajwadi Party in a election rally in Partapgarh ( U.P. ) said ,” I will ” give jaadu ki jhappi and pappi ( magical hug an kiss ) to the people of Partapgarh , and given a chance I will do the same with the BSP chief .” On 18th April , 2009 Mr. Sanjay Dutt was slapped with a notice by the district magistrate for objectionable remarks against Ms Mayawati .
Before this Mr. Dina Nath Bhaskar a cabinet minister in Ms Mayawati`s cabinet blamed that unmarried Mayawati had a 12 years old daughter in an interview in the Dainik Jagran , Lucknow dated 5th December , 1995 . The BSP workers protested under Saheb Kanshi Ram leadership.
” India
December 16, 1995
Dainik Jagran ATTACKED
Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) supporters besieged the Lucknow offices of the Hindi daily Dainik Jagran for five hours, damaging the building’s gates, setting fire to a vehicle and attacking other property. The BSP supporters were protesting the publication of an interview on Dec. 8 that they said humiliated and defamed Mayawati, the party’s general secretary and former chief minister of Uttar Pradesh state. In the interview, a former BSP minister claimed that the unmarried Mayawati had a 12-year-old daughter. The blockade marked the culmination of a massive BSP rally near the newspaper’s offices, during which party leader Kanshi Ram exhorted the crowd to march on Dainik Jagran. Police arrested Ram when he called off the siege but released him shortly afterwards.
Send inquiries to CPJ’s Asia Program.
MAYAWATI HAS A DAUGHTER : DAINIK JAGRAN , LUCKNOW
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=MAYAWATI+HAS+A+DAUGHTER+:+DAINIK+JAGRAN+,+LUCKNOW&hl=en&start=30&sa=N
India
December 16, 1995
Dainik Jagran ATTACKED
Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) supporters besieged the Lucknow offices of the Hindi daily Dainik Jagran for five hours, damaging the building’s gates, setting fire to a vehicle and attacking other property. The BSP supporters were protesting the publication of an interview on Dec. 8 that they said humiliated and defamed Mayawati, the party’s general secretary and former chief minister of Uttar Pradesh state. In the interview, a former BSP minister claimed that the unmarried Mayawati had a 12-year-old daughter. The blockade marked the culmination of a massive BSP rally near the newspaper’s offices, during which party leader Kanshi Ram exhorted the crowd to march on Dainik Jagran. Police arrested Ram when he called off the siege but released him shortly afterwards.
Send inquiries to CPJ’s Asia Program.
http://www.cpj.org/attacks95/attlist95.asia.html ”
Now Mr. Akhilesh Das , a BSP candidate for Lucknow Lok Sabha seat and a prominent trader leader booked for remarks against the Samajwadi Candidate Madam Nafisa Ali .The police registered an FIR against Mr. Das under IPC 171G on 15th April, 2009.
The Hindu society is male dominated and it deal women as sexy doles ! Their almost all Gods deserted their wives and most of them were rapists .Gowswami Tulsi Das in his Ramcharit Manas book clubbed women with idiots , animals and Shudaras and recommended to scold them bitterly !!!!! These books must be banned and burnt publicaly .
Sukra Charya said
“..These books must be banned and burnt publicaly..”.
YES. Ambedkar alone is the one true God.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE US ENVOY , MR. PETER BURLEIGH MET BJP`S LEADER , MR. L.K. ADVANI AHEAD OF THE DECLARATION OF 15TH LOK SABHA RESULTS HAS TRIGGERED A CONTOVERSY WITH LEFT PARTIES .THE LEFT PARTIES CALLED IT ” BRAZEN INTERFERENCE ” IN INDIA`S INTERNAL AFFAIRS .
THE LEFT PARTIES SUSPECT THAT THE USA IS WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CIVIL NUCLEAR DEAL AND OTHER ASPECTS OF STRATEGIC TIES .
AS WE ALREADY WRITTEN THAT THE GLOBAL CAPITALISTS AND THE MANUWADIS OF INDIA ARE UNITED TO SAVE THEIR INTERESTS IN INDIA !!!!!
rajek said
hey buddy ….. if you freaks want reservation based on caste … then you should also ask the government to establish companies and those companies should also be handed over to the dalits (as dalits should also need reservation to hold companies as NRN also holds a company) ..!!!
there should also be reservation in the markets …. as the products made by dalits from the same above companies should be sold in the same reservation ratio !!!
there should be hotels established by dalits in the reservation ratio as most of the hotels are held by brahmis or the dalits should come to the hotels in the reservation ratio to the hotels !!!!!
there should also be reservation in army as they are also part of originals… whenever Indian army goes for fight they should also be sent to die in the reservation ratio …. if they come alive whereas the other die then they should be killed (by the govt if not by enemy) as they are dalits and should be killed in the same reservation ratio .. !!!
you can find beggars in every nook and corner of india… so in begging also there should be reservations for dalits ..!!!
the similar thing should be in prostitution also as i think they are not given proper representation ……… there should be reservations for dalits ….!!!!!
these recommendations should also be sent to the government what do u say buddy ?????????
if all these recommendations are fulfilled then only the dalits call an equal representation in India
kumarpushp said
We donot give any shits to hindus and their hindu led government ,dalits want a seprate county away from barbaric hindus where they can live peacefully and profess their religion.
C. L . CHUMBER said
THE BRAHMINS GOT 100 % RESERVATION IN PRIESTHOOD CLASS TO MISGUIDE AND EARN IN THE NAME OF GOD AS WELL DECLARE THE RAPISTS , RACEISTS AND FASCISTS AS GODS IN THE BRAHMA`S INVENTED CASTE/VARNA LIKE GRADED AND DEGRADED SYSTEM .
NOW THE BRAHMIN RULERS DID NOT IMPLEMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RESERVATION IN THE JUDICIARY AND ARMY !!!!! WHY ? THEY MISUSE THE JUDICIARY TO CRUSH THE SCs / STs / OBCs AND RELIGIOUS MINORITY AND ARMY TO CRUSH THE MASSES OF THESE CATAGORIES !!!!!
WILL THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY DARE TO DISCLAIM THIS RESERVATION IN A EXPLOITING SYSTEM ? ? ? ? ?
rajek said
May 26, 2009 @ 5:32 am
Sukra Charya said
THE BRAHMINS GOT 100 % RESERVATION IN PRIESTHOOD CLASS …
Actually, NO. The priests have to go to take training in Veda-schools (or pata-shalas, as they are called). There is no barrier to entry to any Hindu community. Tell us where you live and we will tell you one that is nearest to you.
You do need to take the training and undergo the necessary discipline. There are no shortcuts.
C . L . CHUMBER said
Dear Kumarpushap ji ,
We must highlight the revolutionary thoughts of non-Hindu religions to annihilate the Hinduism based on varnas and castes and emphasise on implementation of the Indian Constitution , IPC and other constitutional laws .Even the well educated persons do not know the power of the law and democracy !!!!!
kumarpushp said
June 6, 2009 @ 2:46 pm
We donot give any shits to hindus and their hindu led government ,dalits want a seprate county away from barbaric hindus where they can live peacefully and profess their religion.
RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
Dear Kumarpushap ji ,
We all citizens of India have the religious fundamental right and We can profess any religion .We may go to police or direct to the court for religious or any other injustice .
kumarpushp said
June 6, 2009 @ 2:46 pm
We donot give any shits to hindus and their hindu led government ,dalits want a seprate county away from barbaric hindus where they can live peacefully and profess their religion.
aadharabhairava said
Kumarpushp,
Dont talk about dividing India. Are you filthy Mad. At one point you are asking for equal rights, in another place you want to divide india. The worst is that you are talking about enforcing Indian Constitution.
THE MAIN POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION IS THAT YOU CANNOT DIVIDE INDIA.
kumarpushp said
Dear Bharva , Where I had written about to devide India.I had asked for seprate county and not country ,Please go and read about county,you hindus are ignorent and born barbaric like your RSS and their umblical links.
Sukra Charya said
kumarpushp,
There is no concept of ‘county’ in our set-up. Where did you get this idea from?
RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
THE MAIN POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION IS ALSO THAT YOU CANNOT abuse INDIANS.
aadharabhairava said
June 9, 2009 @ 11:26 am
Kumarpushp,
Dont talk about dividing India. Are you filthy Mad.
hh said
According to the Indian constitution, abusers should be jailed. Chumber and Kumarpushp are clearly seditious. They must be jailed.
Chumber is lucky to be considered mad. He lied that he filed some case in some “people’s parliament”. He knows very well that if he files a case anywhere, first, he will be investigated. He already has a TADA background.
If Chumber is so sure that he is right, ask him to file a case immediately. He has not even given his TADA case number. Ask him to provide his details, we will file a case against him.
Chumber knows the only way to save himself is by becoming a politician. So he only knows to allege crap.
hh said
The indian constitution says you cannot abuse religion and incite hatered between communities. You guys can easily be booked for sedition. Ask Kumarpushp to publish his name and address here on this blog so that others can contact him. Ask Chumber to provide his TADA case file number. Then talk.
DUKHI INDIA said
I fully agree with ” The Dalits are poorly represented in the private sector institutes in India. The Dalits and OBCs could get Government jobs due to the reservation policy of Ambedkar .” But the Congress party finished its own top most leader Mr. Arjun Singh former Union minister of Human Resources by not allotting him and his family members the Lok Sabha ticket . The Congress government appointed Mr. Kapil Sibbal in place of him .
Let us watch the new government is constitutional or anti-constitution ?
DHUKHI INDIA said
As far as I know by reading this blog , Mr. Chumber is exposing the irrationality . Mr. Happy Hindu asked Mr. Chumber to understand the things . What things and situations ?
At one time , Mr. Happy Hindu being a staunch hindu arised question about the talking of pigs written in the Puranas of Hindus but at the same time he did not arise question on the four heads and more than two arms of his God Brahma .Why ? I think that he is wasting time and energy of himself and others by his confused writings .
Again he asked Mr. Chumber ,” Please show me a pig that can talk. ” It is not Mr. Chumber`s duty . It is Mr. Happy Hindu`s duty whose three incarnations of God Vishani were a pig , a tortoise and a fish .Actually the Hindu Gods are beasts who made India a castiest India .Mr. Chumber`s stand is right .
Again Mr. Happy Hindu arised a question ,” Brahma had 4 heads, facing diff directions, and more than 2 arms, how cud he rape ? ” Can he produce a man having four heads and two arms ? He can not produce Brahma like man and a talking pig .It is evident in the Hindu scriptures that Brahma and Vishanu raped .
June 12, 2009 @ 9:18 am
Lol. Chumber, you really do not want to understand, do you?
Various people made up stories in the puranic period. According to the puranas, pigs can talk. Please show me a pig that can talk.
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Brahma had 4 heads, facing diff directions, and more than 2 arms, how cud he rape?
hh said
Chumber @ Ram Karishan Sharma @ Dukhi India @ eknath,
That is exactly what i am asking you. How to beleive events mentioned in the puranas are true. Can pigs talk, can a man have 4 heads, etc. Mere translations do not convey the intended meaning. If someone had 4 heads it cannot be true. It was metaphorical. It conveyed something else, like 4 directions.
You merely have an angenda of self-promotion. Prove to me that hindu gods are beasts and chumber is right.
Chumber, you wud do better to actually counter the reply instead of making self-promotion statements like “Chumber is right”.
C . L . CHUMBER said
” Political tyranny is nothing compared to the social tyranny and a reformer who defies society is a more courageous man than a politician who defies Government.” – B. R. Ambedkar
C . L . CHUMBER said
Please B. R. Ambedkar` s quotation ,” Political tyranny is nothing compared to the social tyranny and a reformer who defies society is a more courageous man than a politician who defies Government.”
It is true that you can not abuse peoples in the name of religion of the rapists , raceists and fascists and degrade any community on the basis of the caste system .
hh said
June 14, 2009 @ 12:23 pm
The indian constitution says you cannot abuse religion and incite hatered between communities.
hh said
June 12, 2009 @ 9:31 am
According to the Indian constitution, abusers should be jailed. Chumber and Kumarpushp are clearly seditious. They must be jailed.
Sukra Charya said
“Political tyranny is nothing compared to the social tyranny..”.
Chumber,
Just as we need proof and evidence to show political tyranny, one needs to see evidence for “Social tyranny” too. Most of current evidence consists of the following:
1. Some person from some community not being being permitted entry into a temple or place of worship.
The evidence is newspaper reports some incident in (remote) Bihar or Rajasthan or TamilNadu. But newspaper reports never state the exact location or the exact temple where the incident took place. In effect, no one can verify the incident. Also, newspapers thrive on sensationalism. Papers are privately owned and are profit-making bodies. Sensationalism helps sell papers. In other words, the event was MANUFACTURED for selling the paper.
Any such report therefore, has to be dismissed.
2. Some person from some community not being being permitted entry into a home/house of a person of a different community. People tend to forget that homes/houses are PRIVATE PROPERTY. The owner of the private property has the right to forbid those whom he does not like, entry. This is a constitutional right. There is NO discrimination here.
Unfortunately, the use of a well, can also be restricted, if the well is privately owned. This is a case where the rich take advantage of the poor. It has NOTHING to do with community discrimination. In such cases, the government can react by boring a well in a public place and make water available to all. But since “reports” are extraordinarily vague, no government action is possible.
At the end of the day, we need to separate situations where there is a proven, wilful, deliberate violation of the law and vague reports. As of now, we need to come up with just ONE incident.
RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
SOONER OR LATER , THERE WILL BE THE RULE OF THE OPPESSED AND DEPRESSED INDIANS WHICH MAY BE AN IDEAL RULE IN THE DEMOCRATIC WORLD .
kumarpushp said
June 13, 2009 @ 10:00 pm
Dear Bharva , Where I had written about to devide India.I had asked for seprate county and not country ,Please go and read about county,you hindus are ignorent and born barbaric like your RSS and their umblical links.
Sukra Charya said
“SOONER OR LATER , THERE WILL BE THE RULE OF THE OPPESSED ..”.
Yes, this has already happened. In 1947.
The oppressed have taken power and they are doing the best they can. They have implemented
1. Reservations for Dalits
2. Ensure Dalits can participate in political office (Ambedkar, Jagjivan Ram Narayanan etc).
All the Dalits I know, understand this.Many of the educated Dalits know that many Brahmins are living under the poverty-line. Punishing them even more, does not advance the Dalit cause.
C . L . CHUMBER said
NO HINDUTVA , NO BJP : RSS PULLS UP ADVANI .
COURTESY : http://www.freepressjournal.in/FPJ/FPJ/2009/06/19/index.shtml
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE FIRST FOUR HINDU GODS WERE FISH , TORTOISE , PIG AND LION !
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEASTS WHO INVENTED THE CASTE/ VARNA LIKY FILTHY SYSTEM !!
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEATS WHO RAPED VARINDA AND EVEN DAUGHTER SARASWATI !!!
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEATS WHO KILLED THE ABORIGINAL INDIANS IN MASSES !!!!
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEASTS WHO ABANDON EVEN THEIR WIVES BRAHAMI , SITA , RUKAMANI !!!!!
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEASTS WHO EVEN KILLED THEIR MOTHER LIKE RENUKA !!!!!!
THE HINDU GODS WERE WORST THAN BEASTS BECAUSE THEY MADE THE PEOPLE MINDLESS !!!!!!!
hh said
June 17, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
Prove to me that hindu gods are beasts and chumber is right.
Sukra Charya said
“THE FIRST FOUR HINDU GODS WERE FISH , TORTOISE , PIG AND LION…”
I think, that traces the path of evolution.
You have a problem with the Theory of Evolution?
C . L . CHUMBER said
WHY CAN NOT I USE THE PURANAS AS REFERENCES ? ? ? ? ?
THERE ARE RESEARCH DEPTTS. IN THE UNIVERSITIES IN INDIA AND ABROADS ON THE PURANAS , VEDAS , RAMAYNA AND MAHABHARAT !!!!!
WHAT ARE THE OTHER REASONS TO USE ? ? ? ? ?
SECOND , THE BRAHMIN PRIEST CLASS NEVER PREACH THAT THEIRS GODS ARE THE RAPISTS , RACEISTD AND FASCISTS !!!!! THEY MAKE THE PEOPLE FOOLS BY SELLING THESE EVIL GODS !!!!!
IS THERE ANY BIG CRIME THAN MURDERING AND DEGRADING A SOCIETY ?
IS THERE ANY BIG CRIME THAN RAPEING A LADY WHO FEEL MURDERED ?
THERE ARE MANY EVENTS TO BE DISCUSSED .IN A PURANA , THE HINDU MATA ALLURED BRAHMA , VISHANU AND MAHESH TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HER !!!!! THEY REFUSED TO DO SO AND SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERCOURSE WITH THEIR MOTHER .BUT THE SAME BRAHMA RAPED HIS DAUGHTER AND THE SAME VISHANU RAPED PIOUS AND INNOCENT ADI-MATA VARINDA AND MURDERED HER HUSBAND ADI-BHAGWAN JALANDHAR MAHARAJ .
YOU ARE A BLOT ON THE NAME OF MYTHOLIGICAL / HISTORICAL RISHI SHUKRACHARYA WHO WAS THE GURU OF THE NON-ARYANS BUT YOU ARE THE STOOGE OF THE ARYAN EVIL GODS !!!!!
Shukra Charya said
June 8, 2009 @ 9:36 pm
CL Chumber,
Firstly, you cannot use Puranas as Reference. You may use it for other reasons.
Secondly, the total collection must be several thousand pages. IN ALL THOSE PAGES, is this the ONE event that is of interest to you?
Sukra Charya said
“YOU ARE A BLOT ON THE NAME OF RISHI SHUKRACHARYA WHO WAS THE GURU OF THE NON-ARYANS…”
OK. Calm down. Now that you know a bit about that famous sage, maybe you should know a few more things about him.
1. He was a teacher.
2. Kings paid respect to him (not the other way around).
3. He would not permit use of bad language or any injustice in his presence
4. He would accept any person as his student, as long as that person was sincere in learning.
And finally,
5. He was a Brahmin.
QUESTION: If Rishi Shukracharya were present today, would he accept YOU as his student?
Sukra Charya said
You may not use the Puranas, because they are not a part of Scriptures.
You can still do research on them. People do research on the works of famous poets like Kalidasa or Subramaniam Bharati or William Shakespeare. It does NOT mean that their works are a part of Scriptures.
C . L . CHUMBER said
IN THE COURTS , THE LAW OF THE LAND IS SUPREME !
Sukra Charya said
Chumber,
Yes, Laws of the Land are supreme!
2 POINTS:
1. Those laws also carry punishment for abuse of others. Go over the speeches by The Mahatma. At no point does he abuse anyone. (For that matter, go over Pandit Nehru’s speeches; OR even the former PM Vajpayee’s speeches).
2. Laws of the land cannot favor ANYONE. People who speak against The Father of The Nation, lay themselves open to the application of the Law.
People who incite hatred (especially Race) are disliked ALL OVER THE WORLD. When you call others Manuwadis – you are making a distinction on the basis of race. (That distinction is your mind, since this divide does not exist in reality). Simply put, IT IS RACISM. Racism is punishable not just Indian Laws, but under International Laws as well.
C . L . CHUMBER said
IF FISH , TORTOISE , PIG AND LION CAN BE INCARNATIONS WHY CAN NOT A WOMAN OR NON-ARYAN BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ? ? ? ? ?
MR. LUNATIC JOKER !
CAN A FISH BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ?
CAN A TORTOISE BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ? ?
CAN A PIG BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ? ? ?
CAN A LION CAN A PIG BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ? ? ? ?
IF FISH , TORTOISE , PIG AND LION CAN BE INCARNATIONS WHY CAN NOT A WOMAN OR NON-ARYAN BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ? ? ? ? ?
hh said
June 17, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
Chumber @ Ram Karishan Sharma @ Dukhi India @ eknath,
That is exactly what i am asking you. How to beleive events mentioned in the puranas are true. Can pigs talk, can a man have 4 heads, etc.
hh said
So your stupidity and lunacy is flowing together in full swing. Take care you might have to go to a mental asylum even without the court order to take you there.
Life evolved first in water. Fsh represents that. Reptiles came later. So tortise represents that. Terrestrail animals came only later. The boar represents that.
Life is everywhere, in every atom, every animal, every plant, every human. Yes you too can emulate the ideals of vishnu, so can any man, woman, child. That is what bhagvan Ram and Krishna show. That each one of us can be like them.
Sukra Charya said
“CAN A FISH BE AN INCARNATION OF A MAN VISHANU ?”.
Chumber,
Yes, the Lord can re-incarnate into any living creature.YOU can accept it or reject it. That is your choice.
Many people believe that this world belongs to all living creatures – not just to mankind alone. They will not kill other creatures – just for eating it. I know some Middle-Eastern faiths permit mankind to slaughter any animal for any reason. Nobody is stopping you from having such a belief.
Why do you want others to have the beliefs that you do? We live in a nation that permits people to have different beliefs. That is why India is called ‘Secular’.
Pakistan is a Muslim theocratic state – and ALL Pakistanis are forced to have the same belief. You can live there if you want.
C . L . CHUMBER said
SHUDRAS VS VAISH IN HINDU SCRIPTURES ?
COURTESY : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=SHUDRAS+VS++VAISH+IN+HINDU+SCRIPTURES+%3F&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
Sukra Charya said
Yes, the author (Shrawan K. Shrivastava) makes the same mistakes you do.
Worst of all, he assumes that he knows more than His Holiness Sri Sri Sankaracharya.
When Sri Sankaracharya quotes The Ramayana – he does so with a reason. THIS is a part of the Hindu Scriptures (and the other texts are not).
C . L . CHUMBER said
RAMA AND LAKASHMAN`S GURU VISHWAMITRA IN FIGHT WITH THE BRAHMINS ! ( ON GOOGLE )
WHY DID BRAHMINS NOT RECOGNIZE THE VISHWAMITRA AS THE BRAHM RISHI AND RECOGNIZED HIS STUDENTS RAM AS THE INCARNATION OF HINDU GOD VISHANU ?
THE GURU VISHWAMITRA CHALLENGED THE BRAHMIN DOMINANCY LIKE BUDDHA AND MAHAVIR JAIN BUT HIS STUDENTS RAM AND LAKSHMAN SURRENDERED TO THE BRAHMINS` MANUWADI SYSTEM !!!!!
Courtesy : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=Vishwamitra%60s+fight+against+Brahmins+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE ELECTRONIC AND PRINT MEDIA REPORTERS SEND THE REAL STORY AS THE WHOLE WORLD WATCH AND READ IT !
DR. AMBEDKAR AGITATED TO DRINK WATER OF THE MAHAD COMMITEE`S CHOWDAR TANK BUT THE BRAHMINS OPPOSED !
DR.AMBEDKAR ALSO FOUGHT TO DRINK WATER OF THE KALA RAM TEMPLE , NASIK BUT THE BRAHMINS OPPOSED HIM AND HE WENT TO THE COURT.THE BRAHMINS LOST THE LEGAL BATTLE !
IN FEBUARY , 2009 , TWO DALITS WERE KILLED BY THE MANUWADIS WHEN THEY TRIED TO ENTER THE TEMPLE !
Sukra Charya said
June 24, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
“Political tyranny is nothing compared to the social tyranny..”.
Chumber,
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE MANUWAD NEITHER RECOGNIZES THE EVOLUTION NOR THE REVOLUTION THEORY !!!!!
THE MANUWADIS WORSHIP THE ANIMALS BUT DEGRADE THE HUMAN BEINGS AS KASHATTRIYAS , VAISHES , SHUDRAS AND WOMEN !!!!!
WHY NOT WAS THE WOMAN OR VAISH OR SHUDRA INCARNATION OF GOD ?
Sukra Charya said
June 24, 2009 @ 3:12 pm
“THE FIRST FOUR HINDU GODS WERE FISH , TORTOISE , PIG AND LION…”
I think, that traces the path of evolution.
You have a problem with the Theory of Evolution?
Sukra Charya said
“THE MANUWAD NEITHER RECOGNIZES THE EVOLUTION …”.
Chumber,
The ‘MANUWAD’ creature exists in your mind. So, its only fair that you know what it recognizes and what it doesn’t.
But tell us: Does this MANUWAD look like a human being? Does the creature have hands and legs. Does it have a head?
C . L . CHUMBER said
NO ONE CAN STOP ANY ONE TO RESEARCH OR REFER ANY BOOK !!!!!
PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE COMPLETE LIST OF HINDU SCRIPTURES !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
June 25, 2009 @ 12:35 am
You may not use the Puranas, because they are not a part of Scriptures.
Sukra Charya said
Chumber,
YOU may refer to any text you please. For instance, using some text, you may tell us that you are really an alien from Mars, not a human being at all. Additionally, you can get supporting reference materials from Google.
We are only asking you to stop abuses against the people here. No Hindu Scripture gives you those rights.
One thing is clear. You are NO LONGER FIGHTING FOR ANY DALIT RIGHTS. YOU are ADVOCATING SLAUGHTER AND MASSACRE OF FELLOW INDIANS.
Believe me, every person on this forum will fight that.
hh said
lol 😀 now this guy is asking for a list of hindu scriptures….so far he was blabbering nonsense by quoting all missionary funded publications…
C . L . CHUMBER said
SUKRACHARYA ! A MENTALLY SICK PATIENT ASKED HIS FAMILY MEMBERS TO READ HIS MIND !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am
A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.
The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.
One wonders what that patient is doing today.
C . L . CHUMBER said
PLEASE LET US KNOW THE COMPLETE LIST OF THE HIND SCRIPTURES SANCTIFIED BY THE PROPER HINDU AUTHORITY !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
June 24, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
THIS is a part of the Hindu Scriptures (and the other texts are not).
hh said
There are several hindu authorities. It depends on which tradition within hindusim you wish to follow.
Scriptures cannot be understood merely be reading it like the bible or quran. A big part is metaphoric and needs to be understood by learning from a guru.
And hindu scriptures are tooo many, not just one or two books like a bible or quran.
People spend lifetimes reading them and do not complete reading within one lifetime.
Try this to being with (they are in simple language, easy to understand for beginners) :
1) Secret of the Veda, by Aurobindo
2) The Gheranda Samhita by James Mallinson
3) Shiva Samhita, the Teachings of Shiva, by Bahadur Shrisha Chandra Vasu
hh said
For a basic beginning to understanding the religion, try this:
The Essentials of Hinduism: A Comprehensive Overview of the World’s Oldest Religion by Swami Bhaskarananda.
Chumber,
Don’t mind my saying this, but someday you be reading all sorts of religious works spending time in a psychiatric ward. Your mentality is a different kind. You really do have a mental illness problem.
Sukra Charya said
Chumber,
Since YOU are the one having issues, YOU must provide the actual text, verse etc. This is YOUR responsibility.
THERE IS NO NEGOTIATION ON THIS.
C . L . CHUMBER said
SHUKRACHAYA !
YOU ARE REALLY A BLOT ON THE NAME OF RISHI SHUKRACHARYA WHO WAS THE GURU OF THE NON-ARYANS !
Sukra Charya said
June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am
A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.
The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.
One wonders what that patient is doing today.
Sukra Charya said
June 24, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
“YOU ARE A BLOT ON THE NAME OF RISHI SHUKRACHARYA WHO WAS THE GURU OF THE NON-ARYANS…”
OK. Calm down. Now that you know a bit about that famous sage, maybe you should know a few more things about him.
1. He was a teacher.
2. Kings paid respect to him (not the other way around).
3. He would not permit use of bad language or any injustice in his presence
4. He would accept any person as his student, as long as that person was sincere in learning.
And finally,
5. He was a Brahmin.
QUESTION: If Rishi Shukracharya were present today, would he accept YOU as his student?
Sukra Charya said
Chumber,
Each time you abuse someone, their stature grows.
C . L . CHUMBER said
IT IS MY ETHICAL DUTY TO REPLY MR. HAPPY HINDU WHO HAS A DISEASE BY BIRTH TO CALLING STUPID AND LUNATIC OTHERS !
HE DO NOT KNOW THAT THE HINDUISM DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION AND REVOLUTION !!
HE KNOWS THAT THE ” Life is everywhere, in every atom, every animal, every plant, every human.” BUT HE WORSHIP THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!
HE ADVISES ME , ” Yes you too can emulate the ideals of vishnu, so can any man, woman, child. ” HE MEANS THAT OTHERS MUST FOLLOW THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST VISHANU ( PLEASE READ PADAM PURAN , THE JALANDHAR DISTRICT GAZETEER PUBLISHED BY THE PUNJAB GOVT. AND WATCH THE MOVIE TULSI VIVAH FOR REFERENCES ) !!!!
HE AGAIN ADVISED ,” That is what bhagvan Ram and Krishna show .” HE MEANS OTHERS MAY DISCARD THIER WIVES LIKE RAM AND KARISHAN . KARISHAN HAD THOUSANDS PROSITUTES ( GOPIS ) AND RADHA WAS SUPREME AMONG THEM !!!!!
hh said
June 25, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
So your stupidity and lunacy is flowing together in full swing. Take care you might have to go to a mental asylum even without the court order to take you there.
Life evolved first in water. Fsh represents that. Reptiles came later. So tortise represents that. Terrestrail animals came only later. The boar represents that.
Life is everywhere, in every atom, every animal, every plant, every human. Yes you too can emulate the ideals of vishnu, so can any man, woman, child. That is what bhagvan Ram and Krishna show. That each one of us can be like them.
hh said
Rubbish, so now you are alleging that hindusim does not beleive in evolution. Prove it. Provide the verses. And why should i advice a madman like you.
You will be called stupid as long as you keep alleging without providing verses from hindu scriptures.
Chumber, even now if i want to build a new temple, i can also create a story for that location and enter it in the government gazette. It does not become true.
That is why i am asking you to provide the actual verses from the hindu scriptures where you have alleged rapism, racism and fascism.
You just lie and lie and you expect everyone must beleive your allegations. Instead people are laughing at you, because only lunatic do that.
You are just a comedy show.
Sukra Charya said
“BUT HE WORSHIP THE… ”
Chumber,
What hh worships (or does not worship) should be of no concern to anyone. Why do you want to force your opinion on others?
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE RSS / BJP SHOULD GIVE UP :-
( 1 ) THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST HINDU GODS !
C . L . CHUMBER said
HINDU RASHTRA IS AGAINST CONSTITUTION : JUDGE !!!!!
Staff Reporter
Mumbai: It is one thing to form a Hindu organisation and quite another to speak of forming a Hindu state, which is not in keeping with the Constitution, the special court under the Maharashtra Control of Organised Crimes Act noted on Wednesday.
“Forming an organisation is fine, but wanting to create a Hindu ‘rajya’ [state] is against the Constitution. We are working under the Constitution,” judge Y.D. Shinde said during a hearing in the Malegaon blast case.
The judge’s remark came when counsel Shrikant Shivade, arguing the case of bail for an accused, Lt. Col. Prasad Shrikant Purohit, said there was nothing wrong with his vision of a Hindu ‘rashtra.’ “If I say, ‘remove the word secular and insert the word Hindu,’ there is nothing wrong in that,” counsel said.
The charge sheet reveals that the blast accused were led by the ideology of forming a Hindu ‘rashtra.’
The transcripts placed on record highlight Lt. Col. Purohit’s contempt for secularism and the Constitution.
COURTESY :
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/03/05/stories/2009030561061100.htm
C . L . CHUMBER said
TELL ME HOW MANY NUMBER OF RECENTLY BUILT TEMPLES ARE RECORDED IN ANY DISTRICT GAZETTEER ? ? ? ? ?
hh said
June 30, 2009 @ 2:31 am
Chumber, even now if i want to build a new temple, i can also create a story for that location and enter it in the government gazette. It does not become true.
Kumarpushp said
Hindus are building temple every nook and corner of government land and stealing the electicity from the pole.Som nath temple was built by congress party,Akshy dham temple on yamuna bridge was built by government funds.Vashno devi,kumbh mela and other hindu festivals are nothing but waste of mony.Hindus are surviving because of hindu toilet papers and time has come to burn these hindu toilet papers in India.
Sukra Charya said
“Hindus are building temple every nook and corner of government land and stealing the electicity from the pole.”
kumarpushp,
You cannot protest the building of a temple on a PRIVATE land, with PRIVATE, LOCAL funds. Because it is permitted BY LAW.
If they are stealing electricity, you have a case of theft. The temple authorities HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS RESOURCE. I know of no temple that steals electricity. But if YOU do, publish it HERE. I am sure people on this forum will investigate and make sure NO THEFT is committed.
kumarpushp, the point is this: If a mosque or a Church is also stealing electricity, THEY SHOULD ALSO BE PUNISHED.
Answer this question: DO YOU AGREE?
Sukra Charya said
“Vashno devi,kumbh mela and other hindu festivals are nothing but waste of mony.”.
The fact that its a “waste of mony” is YOUR opinion. Some people might say that Haj (which is also financed by the Government, since 1947) is a bigger waste. Many people in the West feel that Christmas is a waste of money (and some have stopped celebrating it altogether).
Point is: Why is it ONLY HINDU events are bad? You never seem to complain about Islamic or Christian events.
Sukra Charya said
“..and time has come to burn these hindu toilet papers..”.
Have you ever wondered on how your hate leads you to violence? You always seem to conclude with “kill” and/or “destroy”. How will that help?
Worse still, it will not help you attain your objectives. After all the killing and the violence, do you think any Indian (Hindu or otherwise), living overseas will treat you as a equal?
hh said
there are temples built in the colonial times find mention in gazettes, they are not old temples, but stories were made to show as though they were old. anyone can build a temple even now, but people are observant, and clever, they know how to make out the diff b/w an old temple and a new one, they won’t beelive you just bcoz you told them a story…..
KUMARPUSHP said
What about akshya dham temple near ITO,it is cow shits that hindus are not building temple on government lands.
Sukra Charya said
KUMARPUSHP,
Firstly, control your tongue.
Now then, are you saying that “akshya dham temple” is an illegal structure? When was it built? Who are the adminstrators of this temple?
C . L . CHUMBER said
SHUKRACHARYA !
YOU HAVE NO STATURE AS YOU ARE NOT ETHICAL PERSON !!!!!
PLEASE READ YOUR UNETHICAL WRITING REPRODUCED BELOW TO SEE YOUR FACE IN THIS MIRROR !!!!!
YOU ALL VAIDIK ABUSERS AND LOST THE E-DIALOGUE . YOU HAVE NOT STATURE EXCEPT SATRATURES !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
June 30, 2009 @ 9:19 pm
Chumber,
Each time you abuse someone, their stature grows.
Sukra Charya said
June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am
A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.
The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.
One wonders what that patient is doing today.
Meghdoot said
Chumber,
FINALLY! You feel offended, is it not? And look at my original posting carefully – that was not even addressed to you. Yet you felt offended!
The shoe is on the other foot! Now, you know, how others on the forum feel.
Let me summarize on how you treat others on this forum:
1. You abuse them.
2. You abuse their families.
3. You abuse their beliefs, their Gods
4. You want to kill them, their ancestors and their children. Pregnant women included.
5. You want to destroy their property and their places of worship
I am stopping here. This is too horrible.
This is the land of Rama, Bhishma, Karan. This is the land that produced Vidura and Gautama Buddha. We feel we are privileged to have been born of this great land.
AND THIS HOW YOU TREAT US? Have you NO shame?
hh said
chumber,
you look at your writings to see your face in the mirror. you will find a lecherous old man panting on the words rape, race and fascism. nice reflection, huh?
rajashekar said
Hi Chumber,
After going through this part of the blog, I am unable to STOP LAUGHING.
I am s laughing so loudly that I probably die of it by the time I complete this posting. People around me are extreamly curious to know the matter that made me laugh so much , dieing , so that they can also have their day’s laugh at it and relax. You shame less people look like puttting all your worthy combined efforts only to a great research to find out , where , for what and for how much and when you can start your agitation begging , at any cheapest possible level left to to ones own imagination and of the person who read this post , for reservations and other very very CHEAP and MEANLY benefit that you may get by agitating like a mentaly and physicaly disabled person and lobbying with the filthy and lechourously power lusty politicians looking at their vote banks.You people have a very mean or no self esteem and has got no shame in exhibiting your nicotine laced yellow teeth in vain to get some alms on your palms and only to shoo away from being engaged in such a dirty beggiing profession.
I AM NOT SURPRISED IF YOU PEOPLE AGITATE ON RESERVATION FOR OPENING CEREMONY OF PUBLIC TOILETS AND LAVATORIES YOU FOOLS.
I AM STILL LAUGHING. I THANK YOU REALLY A LOT YAAR . AFTER A VERY LONG TIME YOU MADE ME LAUGH HEARTFULLY. I AM TIRED OF LAUGHING AND VERY BLUSHED DUE TO WHICH MY FACE LOOKS VERY PINKISH. OH GOD WHAT A GREAT JOKE.
And I SUGGEST you , go for resrvation on every thing on earth. YOU FIRST AND OTHERS NEXT. OK. I can not imagine that India has got such a huge volume of population of Swines like you.
Let us assume there is cent per cent reservation ? What next ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HO MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH………………………………………….
Thank you so much
KUMARPUSHP said
Dalits donot require resevation ,they require dalitstan where they can stay away from barbaric hindus,dalits have to keep knives ready to stab the bharat mata,s Uterus so she would not delivered any hindus in future ,we have to kill hindus in the womb itself.
Sukra Charya said
kumarpushp,
“…they require dalitstan where they can stay away from…”
Though none of us will agree, you are still entitled to make THAT as your election platform. From what I see on this forum, most Dalits will NOT vote for you.
Sukra Charya said
“..dalits have to keep knives ready to stab the bharat mata..”
Ha.. Here comes a great Islamic warrior.. with a sword. Fighting and killing pregnant women! This is BRAVERY?
Like all Islamic terrorists, janab, you fight with unarmed civilians. And are afraid to meet an armed enemy in an open battle-field. How typical!!
SanJam said
Kumarpushp,
when it comes to defining the dalit mindset, you win the cake.
HERES WHAT KUMARPUSHP WRITES:
“dalits have to keep knives ready to stab the bharat mata,s Uterus so she would not delivered any hindus in future ,we have to kill hindus in the womb itself.”
WOW….
your parents must be really proud of you kumar,,, you are not a human being. no matter how much we hate bastards like you and chumber,,, nobody stoops to the gutter level that you represent.
i must highlight that your upbringing must have been in terror camps or something.
the bull shit that you smear on this blog,,, i really really pray that i come across you in-person someday. i swear you’ll be sorry to be born!
you are one twisted bastard,,, with no dignity at all!!
C . L . CHUMBER said
HAPPY HINDU RAPED BRAHMA AND VISHANU OR THEY RAPED HIM ?
Dear Happy Hindu ,
I also searched on google and found the results on the above topic as below
Courtesy : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=HAPPY+HINDU+RAPED+BRAHMA+AND+VISHANU+OR+THEY+RAPED+HIM+%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
hh said
July 4, 2009 @ 10:32 am
YOU LUNATIC WROTE ” I can also say:Muhammad raped chumber two hundered times – surah.18.1.10. ” NOW I WILL READ THE QUARAN TO KNOW THE AUTHENTICITY OF ” Muhammad raped chumber two hundered times .”
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LOL , So you are going to read the quran to know authenticity if chumber was raped by mohammed or not. Good. In the same way, you read the hindu scriptures and then talk your utter nonsense.
Dont’t just quite some lines from islamic sites or some google references, your job is to provide the actual shloka. i will provide you the translation.
Courtesy : https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/brahmins-destroyed-the-dravidian-indus-valley-civilization/#comment-6724
C . L . CHUMBER said
YOU DO NOT FEEL ALIVE AS YOU ARE ABUSER AND UNETHICAL PERSON !!!!!
I AND MY FAMILY NEVER AVAILED RESERVATION !!!!!
YOU ARE DEAD ETHICALLY !!!!!
rajashekar said
July 6, 2009 @ 11:15 am
Hi Chumber,
After going through this part of the blog, I am unable to STOP LAUGHING.
C . L . CHUMBER said
Meghdoot said
July 6, 2009 @ 11:14 am
Chumber,
Sukra Charya said
June 25, 2009 @ 12:07 am
A mentally sick patient was being tested by a psychiatrist, before being released from the asylum. The doctor wanted to check if he could recognize alphabets and numbers.
The patient was shown a 0 (ZERO). The patient said it was the female genitals. He was shown a 1 (ONE). The patient said it was the male genitals.
One wonders what that patient is doing today.
C . L . CHUMBER said
I AM A YOUNGMAN IN STAMINA !!!!!
I AM ETHICAL IN WRITINGS !!!!!
THE RAPE , RACE AND FASCISM ARE THE MOST TOP THREE EVILS !!!!!
THE RAPE IS SUCH AN HEINIOUS CRIME THAT A PERSON CAN NOT EVEN RAPE WITH HIS WIFE !!!!! IF HE DO AND HIS WIFE COMPLAINED , THE POLICE PUT HIM BEHIND BARS !!!!!
hh said
July 7, 2009 @ 3:47 am
chumber,
you look at your writings to see your face in the mirror. you will find a lecherous old man panting on the words rape, race and fascism. nice reflection, huh?
hh said
oops i forgot you are a narcisist loony, so ofcourse you are ‘ethical’ and ‘youngman’ as a madman…well, there is a law to deal with loonies like you. You can do what you want to do. goodbye.
rajashekar said
Hi Chumber,
Where did I mention in my writing that you and your family members availed the benefit of RESERVATION. It only shows that you are guilty of some thing that you do not want to admit on your own until some one pushes you to confess nah. If you want to prove your point, you can go back to my postings and reproduce those phrases directed to your family ( After all you are extremely good and professional at reproducing some one elses’ text, I know) and prove that I have pulled your family in to this matter. I maintain a very decent and dignified mentality and cultured enough to respect the others with out hurting their sentiments, the primarily a civilised element which you actually lack as in Individual. You are such a Goose that you are capable only to make loud noise for no reason. This is not the first time it is happening with you but several instance can be given where you made a huge noise with out any established and relevant issues.
I will allow you to howl and cry nastily. Go ahead and go on cryinggggg.
Coming to the other point, It should be me and only me to feel whether alive or dead and not you fortunately for me. I am not an abuser and if we collect opinion from all the viewers of this blog through ballot, they will, without any doubt, vote in your favour for being the most and qualified abuser and definitely not me. And I swear to it and bet a million Dollars.
And you say I am unethical. Prove it. But I can furnish several instances to prove it is actually YOU and ONLY YOU who is not only unethical but also lost all those moral values believed, strictly followed by word and highly respected by none other than Dr. Dada Saheb Amedkar whom you claim to follow as a model .And most unfortunately you are in the job of projecting him as a tool at every given opportunity only to CONSUME his hard earned goodwill to avail of any benefits and tarnish his image. If Dr.Dada saheb, were to be alive today , he would have felt very sad for his name being dragged at every point and used so cheap and for menial purposes accompanied with derogative phrase of words knitted and tagged together. Shame on you.
And can you define the term “ Ethically Dead”.
First of all , do you know the meaning of ethics which I do not think you have any idea, clarify then we talk about Ethical Death. And the moment you give me your definition for Ethics, I will prove who is Ethically Dead.
As far as my being identified as unethical person ,by you , is itself unethical. And therefore I do not bang my head on that issue since you ,declaring me as unethical, have to, in principal,look in to your own self to assess how much you are ethical to say others unethical.
C . L . CHUMBER said
July 8, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
YOU DO NOT FEEL ALIVE AS YOU ARE ABUSER AND UNETHICAL PERSON !!!!!
I AND MY FAMILY NEVER AVAILED RESERVATION !!!!!
YOU ARE DEAD ETHICALLY !!!!!
rajashekar said
July 6, 2009 @ 11:15 am
Hi Chumber,
After going through this part of the blog, I am unable to STOP LAUGHING
C . L . CHUMBER said
GURU GOBIND SINGH DELIVERED SERMON , ” Let the four Hindu castes who have different rules for their guidance abandon them all “.
GURU GOBIND SINGH DELIVERED SERMON , ” Let none pay heed to the Ganges, and otherplaces of pilgrimage which are spoken of with reverence in the Shastras .”
GURU GOBIND SINGH DELIVERED SERMON , ” Let men of the four castes receive my baptism, eat out of one dish, and feel no disgust or contempt for one another.”
GURU GOBIND SINGH DELIVERED SERMON , ” Let none pay – – adore incarnations such as Rama, Krishna, Brahma, and Durga . ”
GURU GOBIND SINGH`S RELIGION ” opposed to the teachings of the Vedas and Shastras .”
Sukra Charya said
GURU GOBIND SINGH`S RELIGION ” opposed to the teachings of the Vedas and Shastras .”
Points 1, 2 and 3. Guru-ji is clearly against discrimination of any sort. Why don’t we follow his teachings, instead of asking for privileges for any community?
Point 4. I am not so sure on this. The Indian Constitution permits adorations of any God or Goddess, especially if they were on private property, like a home.
Point 5. Vedas and Shastras are over six millenia old. There may be sections in it that was correct at one stage , but are no longer appropriate TODAY. That does not mean the rest of the Vedas is wrong too.
Newer faiths like Christianity and Islam, have their sacred texts. One would expect them to have fewer items that are irrelevant today, but that is not the case. They seem to have MORE sections that are inappropriate. They openly endorse VIOLENCE and FORCED CONVERSIONS. And worst of all, they implement mechanisms, that GUARANTEES that converted people WILL BE POOR.
KUMARPUSHP said
Dear sukra , you would not find a single mosque or church is using electricity by theft but you will find janama astami.ram leela.bajrang leela and other hindu festivals ,these hindus are stealing the electricity.
Sukra Charya said
kumarpushp,
“..you would not find a single mosque or church is using electricity by theft..”.
I think you misunderstood the question. No one here is endorsing any theft. The offending party can and should be FINED. From your end, you need to provide the date and location of the incident.
In effect: we want the law of the land applied equally. If a church or a mosque is found guilty on the same charge, they should be punished too.
While we are on the topic of the laws of the land, we would like to investigate the funding of the mosques and churches. Many of them seem to have ample funds from overseas. They also seem to be on lands that have not been acquired legally – at least in some cases.
The idea of theft of public property by different religious denominations needs to be investigated. My question is: DO YOU AGREE TO INVESTIGATION OF ALL RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO NOT BREAK THE LAWS OF THE LAND?
Answer us with a YES or a NO.
kumarpushp said
If law would have been applied for hindus then Balthakrey ,modi,adwani ,uma bharti,shadhvi atal bihar vajpayee ,all would have been in jailed.Bal thakre was not arrested because there would been riots in Bombay.Rss and BJP was involved in all riots against muslims,Congress was invovled in killing of sikhs ,how many hindus had sent jailed ,I would say none.All hindus are hiding their face on genocide of muslims ,dalits and christians.We donot trust hindus and their hindu led government who are protecting the hindu crimnals including RSS<BJP and other bajrang dals.
Sukra Charya said
“We donot trust hindus ..”
But the Indian public does. That is all that matters. After 911, the entire world hates Muslims (Arabs and non-Arabs).
C . L . CHUMBER said
M/S HAPPY HINDU HAS NOTHING TO SAY EXCEPT ABUSING !
HE IS NOT BROUGHT UP PROPERLY .
THAT IS WHY HE DO NOT WRITE WITHOUT ABUSING !
IT MAY A HEREDITRY / ENVIRONMENTAL DEASESE .
hh said
July 12, 2009 @ 2:27 pm
oops i forgot you are a narcisist loony, so ofcourse you are ‘ethical’ and ‘youngman’ as a madman…well, there is a law to deal with loonies like you. You can do what you want to do. goodbye.
ToAStupidFellow said
How have you been brought up chumber?
You blatantly lie, you twist other’s words, you allege without proof, you are a narcissist, you have a terror associated background, you are a criminal – how have your parents raised you?
Did you know some psychiatric illness can be considered to have a heredity basis? So are your parents mad to raise you like a lunatic?
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE RSS AND ITS OFFSHOOTS INCLUDING BJIP ARE ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!
MR. RAM VILAS PASWAN`S PARTY RIGHTLY PROMISED IN ITS ELECTIO MANIFESTO TO BAN THE RSS AND ITS OFFSHOOTS LEGALLY .
THE LAW ENFORCING AGENCIES ARE NOT JUDICIOUS MINDED THAT IS WHY THE BJP IS ALIVE .
THE MAYAWATI GOVT. DID WELL BY ALLOWING THE POLICE TO CONTINUE CASE AGAINST BJP`S MR. VARUN GANDHI IN THE COURT .
Sukra Charya said
July 9, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
THE BJP HAD ALREADY MIXED POLITICS AND RELIGION AND CAPTURED POWER IN CENTRE AND STATES !!!!!
Yes and BJP got blamed for that. Now, the same people who made the accusation are now committing the same act. Its a bit like a magistrate who is committing a robbery!
Sukra Charya said
“THE RSS AND ITS OFFSHOOTS INCLUDING BJIP ARE ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!”
Many people, including the President of Pakistan (Mr. Musharraf) think so. The point is: where is your evidence?
Sukra Charya said
Yes, Mr.Chumber. Apparently, the electorate does not think highly of him. His party has not won a single seat and Mr.Paswan himself has lost the elections.
For others on this forum, here is what a Bihari newspaper had to say:
“Mr. Paswan does many things. He is a manipulator who relies on criminal world for support and survival and as long as it serves his interest, it does not matter whether it serves the interest of the people or not.”.
C . L . CHUMBER said
EVERY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN HINDUISM AND HINDU RASHTRA IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
July 15, 2009 @ 9:59 pm
“THE RSS AND ITS OFFSHOOTS INCLUDING BJIP ARE ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!”
Many people, including the President of Pakistan (Mr. Musharraf) think so. The point is: where is your evidence?
Sukra Charya said
“EVERY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN HINDUISM AND HINDU RASHTRA IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!”.
Chumber-ji,
Where did you get this idiocy from? They are your feelings and superstitious beliefs.
Sukra Charya said
EVERY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN HINDUISM AND HINDU RASHTRA IS ANTI-CONSTITUTION !!!!!
Making a statement like this only shows ignorance. The person making such a statement does not understand Hinduism OR Hindu Rashtra, Or even the meaning of Constitution or Anti-Constitution.
A sorry state of affairs!!
C . L . CHUMBER said
C . L . CHUMBER said
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July 16, 2009 @ 3:28 pm
WE INDIANS WANT JUSTICE FOR LATE PROF. SABHARWAL , HIS FAMILY AND ENTIRE HUMAN BEINGS >
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* WHO KILLED PROFESSOR SABHARWAL? BJPs MOMENT OF SHAME
COURTESY : https://dalitnation.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/not-white-tiger-but-the-black-panther-of-dalits-for-india/#comment-6956
C . L . CHUMBER said
WE ALL DALITS OF INDIA ARE COMPELLED TO RAJA DHALE`S WORDING FOR MRS. SONIA GANDHI , LADY MPs , WIVES OF MEN MPS OF PARLIAMENT FOR NOT USING THESE FUNDS ON THE DALITS . THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED TREACHARY !!!!!
IT IS MY ETHICAL DUTY TO TAKE NOTICE OF MR. KUMARPUSHAP`S SENTIMENTS !!!!!
I NEVER READ SUCH A STATEMENT WHICH REFLECTS THE ARROGANCE OF THE DEPRESSED AND OPPERESSED ABORIGINAL INDIANS AGAINST THE INDO-ARYANS !!!!!
ONCE I SAID AS THE NATIONAL SPOKESMAN OF THE SAHEB KANSHI RAM BACHAAO SANGHARSH COMMITTEE IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE AT JALANDHAR THAT MRS. SONIA KEPT THE SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT AGAINST SAHEB KANSHI RAM IN HER UTERUS !!!!!
THE JOURNALISTS APPRECIATED MY SENTIMENTS AND THEY WERE HELPLESS TO REPORT . BUT IT MAY BE IN THE CID RECORDS .
BEFORE THIS , MR. RAJA DHALE , A DALIT PANTHER LEADER OF MAHARASHTRA IN THE 7TH DECADE SAID IN A SPEECH THAT MRS. INDIRA GANDHI SHOULD KEEP THE NATIONAL FLAG IN HER UTERUS . HE WAS UTTERING ON THE ATTROCITIES ON THE DALITS ALL OVER INDIA .
NOW , MRS. SONIA GANDHI , CHAIRPERSON OF THE UPA GOVERNMENT DID NOT UTILIZED THE BUDGET ON THE DALITS .PLEASE READ ( C . L . CHUMBER said , July 7, 2009 @ 3:46 pm )
* UPA failed to use Rs 72,500 crore for Dalits: Study
COURTESY : http://www.hindustantimes.com/SectionPage/News_India.aspx?SectionName=IndiaSectionPage
MRS. SONIA GANDHI AND HER ALLIANCE AND ITS GOVERNMENT DID A CRIME FOR WHICH THETY MUST BE PUT BEHIND BARS !!!!!
WE ALL DALITS OF INDIA ARE COMPELLED TO RAJA DHALE`S WORDING FOR MRS. SONIA GANDHI , LADY MPs , WIVES OF MEN MPS OF PARLIAMENT FOR NOT USING THESE FUNDS ON THE DALITS . THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED TREACHARY !!!!!
WE APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENTS OF MR. KUMARPUSHAP AND WARN THE ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL RULERS OF INDIA TO MEND THEIR WAYS !!!!!
KUMARPUSHP said
July 11, 2009 @ 6:51 pm
Dalits donot require resevation ,they require dalitstan where they can stay away from barbaric hindus,dalits have to keep knives ready to stab the bharat mata,s Uterus so she would not delivered any hindus in future ,we have to kill hindus in the womb itself.
C . L . CHUMBER said
INDIA: PROTESTS AGAINST THE PROPOSALS TO DESTROY THE FOUNDATIONS OF INDIAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
COURTESY :
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/india_cjs/updates.html
C . L . CHUMBER said
HOW CAN YOU FIGHT A VIOLENT ENEMY WITH” PEACE ” &” MEDITATION ” ?
BY
COM. AYYANKALI
I believe in “caste war” along your “caste identity” lines. I also believe that for this the economics compulsorily has to be anti-capitalist just as Dr. Ambedkar and Periyar said. I don’t believe in mere lip-service when it comes to pursuing ruthless caste war. Dalits must defend themselves when attacked by carrying powdered glass with them to throw into the attackers’ eyes.
Since Dr. Ambedkar as well as orthodox Ambedkarism have never advocated caste war I don’t want to be mistaken for a reformist — because I am not a reformist. You can take it from me that the Indian Army will be split on caste lines. Gujjar-style armed insurgencies will be started by caste armies. When all-India caste war begins DV’s “caste identity” will be used in the Indian Army along caste lines.
Caste armies will “storm the heavens” and change the history itself. Dr. Ambedkar did not advocate all this. But Periyar did. The Bahujans have a chance to face mass massacre from Aryan Brahminical goons. Only a very stunning revolution at which the entire word shudders will be able to throw away Brahminism once and for all. I am convinced that this 5,000-year old nonsense cannot be ended any other way with any mild methods. I want to make the “Budha smile” not in Pokhran but in our cantonments. Only if something like this done, the Brahminists will surrender. Ordinary methods will not work. Simply forming “Friends of Mustadafeen” will not get us anywhere. Will they provide us help with training, money and arms? We must believe this very honest “Sacred Brahmins” like Purohit who believe in violence. The Brahmin Air Force deputy chief who bravely attended the Chitpavan Brahmin meet in full uniform at Pune also believes in such violence. They believe in armed violence and bloodshed. How can “peace” and “meditation” meet the armed might of these “Sacred Brahmins”?
Courtesy :
http://www.dalitvoice.org/Templates/july_a2009/articles.htm
Sukra Charya said
…But Periyar did.
Yes, he did. He was dimwitted. He insulted Tamilians and the Tamil language. Tamil language may be as old as Sanskrit – and they perhaps originate from the same source. Periyar said that Tamil was a barbaric language and people who speak Tamil are barbarians.
Its good he is dead
Kumarpushp said
Dear Dalit bhandhu,Justice come through the barrel of guns,There is no black color in Indian flag so Please donot waste your time to make India strong ,As Dada Kanshi ram had said We watn a Majboor Government at centre not Majboot Government.175 million dalits should join together and Fight with enemy of humen kind who are becoming monster with the help of hindu medias.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE HINDU , ON THEIR PART ,HAVE MADE TWO GREAT MISTAKES :
1) THE CASTE SYSTEM AND 2) NEGLECT OF STATE AND SOCIETY .
THE RSS`OFFICIAL WEEKLY THE ORGANISER , NEW DELHI , DATED 26TH JULY , 2009 , ADMITTED THE WORST EVER FAULTS OF BRAHMA WHO INVENTED THE CASTE SYSTEM !!!!!
ONE DAY , THE RSSS AND ITS OFF SHOOTS WILL BE COMPELLED TO GET RID OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS AND EVIL SCRIPTURES !!!!!
The Geneva-based International Coalition for the Advancement of Religious and Spirituality (ICARUS) has bestowed “The Best Religion In the World” award this year on the Buddhist Community.
Courtesy :http://www.ambedkartimes.com/buddha.htm#bu
I SUGGEST THIS GENEVA- BASED INTERNATIONAL COALITION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITUALITY ( ICAARUS ) TO START THE AWARD ” THE WORST EVER RELIGION IN THE WORLD ” NEXT YEAR !!!!!
I CAN BIT THAT THE HINDUISM WILL WIN THIS AWARD FOR EVER !!!!!
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THE OGANISER`S ARTICLE :
Think it over
How religions have misguided mankind!
By MSN Menon
Religions have tamed man in the wild. But they have also misguided men. No questions were raised, for religions were treated as sacred.
In this article, I’ll take up two such cases where they have misguided their followers—One Hindu, the other Semitic. The Hindus, on their part, have made two great mistakes:
1) the caste system and 2) neglect of State and society.
It is the claim of Christianity that it is a great religion. It too has made two serious errors: 1) By accepting the genesis as a veritable truth, although it has been dismissed as a fairy tale by the best minds of the West. And (2) it gave its blessings to African slave trade, the genocide of the Red Indians and the Jews, the burning of those who disagree—all these caused the greatest damage to humanity.
But let us begin at the start.
What is it that became an outlook of life? The answer to this question is to be found in the answer to another question: what is the purpose of life? There can be two answers to this question: 1) To make life on earth happier. This is the Chinese position. 2) The other purpose of life is to prepare oneself for life beyond death.
The Hindus are a highly speculative people. So they explored the universe to know more about God and man and the meaning of life. The Hindu was so involved in this quest that he forgot his life on earth. He said that life was a mere sojourn on earth. This became the outlook of the Hindu. With what result? Life on earth became secondary and they neglected the State and society.
What of the Semitic faiths? They have done the greatest damage to humanity and brought upon themselves ridicule. The tragedy of the Semitic faiths is that they cannot give up their errors with inviting total rejection of their faith. What is more, they will not be able to hold on to many of their pet dogmas, which is why the “New Age” movement in America rejected the Judeo-Christian traditions.
The Chinese, the practical people that they are, were neither interested in the universe nor in the mysteries of life and death. They too asked the question: what is it that we can expect from life? They said: a happier life. This became the Chinese outlook on life. So the Chinese give the greatest importance to society and State, for the State alone could ensure a happier life.
I am, however, more concerned here with the consequences of our beliefs. Neglect of life led to neglect of States and neglect of State led to foreign invasion and subjection to alien peoples.
Just think of it: India produced the first and greatest political scientist and military strategist—Kautilya. But no other Kautilya was born in this country, while China produced dozens of political and military experts. Why? Because Hindu outlook had already changed. The boisterous Aryan had become a recluse, preoccupied with death.
But what is one to make of the fate of man in the Semitic tradition? Here, God created Adam and Eve, but refused to part with knowledge to the couple. Did he want them to live like other animals in the Garden? But Adam ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge and brought upon himself and his progeny sin for ever. Adam was cursed by God to live by the sweat of his brow and Eve in pain for ever.
Then, again, look at the absurdity of “one life” in an eternity! The Semitic faiths say that a man is born only once in the world. The rest of the eternity he will live either in hell fire or in heaven.
Dear Reader, what kind of justice is this: That a man should burn in hell fire for eternity for the common offences he made in life! The very idea of a hell run by God is repugnant to our sense of justice. It is simply barbaric. And yet there are illiterate Hindus and others who condemn Manu for his harsh punishments!
Dear Reader, the purpose of the makers of the Semitic religions and their churches was to gain control of men through terror. Recall the Inquisition! It is said that it perfected torture into an art! But a religion which is designed to terrorise men into submission is no religion.
COURTESY :http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=301&page=15
RAM KARISHAN SHARMA said
Dear Chumber ji ,
I read your views and I am of the opinion that you are the best spokesman of the sentiments of the depressed and oppressed Indians . I condemn the governments which are misutilize the budgets . This is a serious matter . The President of India must enter in this fraud and punish them who will be fiound guilty ..
C . L . CHUMBER said
July 17, 2009 @ 2:33 pm
WE ALL DALITS OF INDIA ARE COMPELLED TO RAJA DHALE`S WORDING FOR MRS. SONIA GANDHI , LADY MPs , WIVES OF MEN MPS OF PARLIAMENT FOR NOT USING THESE FUNDS ON THE DALITS . THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED TREACHERY !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
“Justice come through the barrel of guns…”.
That sounds like Comrade Mao. His revolution has failed. The Chinese are now running after American money.
China is a country that will become old, without being rich. What a shame!
Kumarpushp said
Dalits are not ready to wait for 30 year to get justice from high court and supreme court.,it is better to buy the arms and get justice in no time.donot kill innocent person but some body harm you then please donot leave for gods to punish.
Sukra Charya said
“..Dalits are not ready to wait for 30 year to get justice..”.
Welcome to the real world then. You think the rest of us like waiting for some judgement?
Sukra Charya said
“HOW CAN YOU FIGHT A VIOLENT ENEMY WITH” PEACE ” &” MEDITATION ” ?”
Well said. Well said.
If the author, Comrade, is indeed a Buddhist AND wants to fight against INJUSTICE, you can start with Tibet. That Buddhist nation is under EVIL Chinese rule. Those Buddhists committed no crime!
Only a coward would advocate killing of innocent civilians. That does NOT take courage. If you are a warrior, go FIGHT A REAL WAR and come back victorious! Start a anti-Chinese insurgency in Tibet!
DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS?
Kumarpushp said
Tibet is integral parts of china and Dalai Lama is paid agent of America and he is getting 80 millions dollar per year from America.Dalai Lama is propagating the Brahminism In India. it is better to throw him to china with their three hundred thosands fat cats who are living in India.Dalai Lama and their forefather had thrown out from Ashoka kingdom because they were pactising the Brahminism.time has come we should throw the traitor of Buddhism from India as early as possible save the Buddhism from kal Chakra and other cow shits .
ToAStupidFellow said
Tibet is not an integral part of China. It never was.
Dalai Lama is not any paid agent of the US. He is the spiritual head of millions of Tibetans.
Dalai Lama is not propagating brahmanism. He is propagating Buddhism. Ambedkar fooled you by initiating you people into a fake form of buddism. So no point being angry with Dalai Lama, Japan, and other Buddists all over the world for being real Buddists. You guys are the losers, thanks to Ambedkar.
It is better to throw you with your stupidity and stupid supporters into Pakistan.
Sukra Charya said
“Tibet is integral parts of china …”.
Since when? OR are we seeing the first signs of COWARDICE? If you are true to your beliefs, take up arms and fight the Chinese. Start a Buddhist insurgency in Tibet.
Its easy to talk BIG about human equality, how the Dalits are mistreated etc. sitting in the comfort of peaceful India. As the Pakistani terrorists will tell you, its not difficult to kill innocent civilians – something that you advocate.
If you are serious about fighting for equality, start in Tibet. OR are we seeing the first signs of cowardice. The bet is ON.
START THE BUDDHIST INSURGENCY AGAINST THE CHINESE IN TIBET.
C.L.CHUMBER said
THE RAPIST , RACIST , AND FASCIST BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DIED ALSO !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
July 23, 2009 @ 10:04 pm
…But Periyar did.
Yes, he did. He was dimwitted. He insulted Tamilians and the Tamil language. Tamil language may be as old as Sanskrit – and they perhaps originate from the same source. Periyar said that Tamil was a barbaric language and people who speak Tamil are barbarians.
Its good he is dead
C.L.CHUMBER said
BUT NOW THE COWARD SUKRA CHARYA WILL NOT CONDEMN THIS MURDER OF INNOCENT CIVILIAN !!!!! WHY ? ? ? ? ?
A COWARD RAMA , KING OF AYODYA , KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK AT THE SHAMBUK TEK NAME HILL , 64 KMS AWAY FROM NAGPUR ( MAHARASHTRA ) !!!!
THIS IS RECORDED IN THE UTTAR KAND ( LAST 7TH CHAPTER ) OF VALMIKI RAMAYNA .
THIS IS RECORDED IN THE THE NAGPUR DISTRICT GAZETTEER AND THE ANOTHER BOOK ” TEMPLES OF MAHARASHTRA ” PUBLISHED BY THE MAHARASHTRA GOVT.
MR. JAWAHAR LAL NEHARU ALSO RECORDED IN HIS BOOK ” THE DISCOVERY OF INDIA ” WHICH WAS TV SERIALIZED IN HINDI UNDER THE BANNER ” BHARAT EK KHOJ “.
BUT NOW THE COWARD SUKRA CHARYA WILL NOT CONDEMN THIS MURDER OF INNOCENT CIVILIAN !!!!! WHY ? ? ? ? ?
Sukra Charya said
July 26, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
Only a coward would advocate killing of innocent civilians.
Sukra Charya said
“THE RAPIST , RACIST , AND FASCIST BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DIED ALSO !!!!!”
If that be the case, why are you bringing it into the discussion it again and again? Write about Periyar instead.
Kumarpushp said
dalits will librate the bodh gaya temple first from hindu then throw the Mr dalai lama from India.Dalit are not cowerdic ,they will hit the hindus on their umblicus and we will hit the hindu led government also when time come.
Sukra Charya said
“…KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK…”
Chumber,
Is that it? Is that the foundation of all your arguments? You want kill innocent people of other communities, TODAY, for that ONE event?
Chumber, people of other communities (including Brahmins) judge an action for what it is. No one said that Rama became evil because he killed a Brahmin (Ravana). You need to judge people by their actions.
We say Ravana is bad, because he committed a crime. Not because he was a Brahmin.
How is it you judge whether Rama is good or bad, depending on the caste of the person he killed?
All along you have been arguing that Dalits were not getting equality, promised to them under the Constitution. All that equality talk was just so much rubbish. You just want to kill other communities, because they are different. Somehow, they are different.
I really feel sorry for you.
C.L.CHUMBER said
SHUKRACHARYA WILL NEVER CONDEMN A MURDER BECAUSE IT IS DONE BY THE SO CALLED UPPER CASTE CRUEL KING AND THE VICTIM WAS A SO CALLED LOW CASTE !!!!
WE WILL BURN THE EFFIGIES OF RAM , LAKSHMAN AND MANUWAD ON THE DUSSEHRA DAY TO CINDEMN THE MURDER OF SAINT SHAMBUK !!!!!
Sukra Charya said
July 31, 2009 @ 11:39 pm
“…KILLED INNOCENT AND PIOUS SHUDAR SAINT SHAMBUK…”
Chumber,
Is that it? Is that the foundation of all your arguments? You want kill innocent people of other communities, TODAY, for that ONE event?
ToAStupidFellow said
Do whatever you want, who cares. Just bcoz you burn something with some cheap oil, things do not change.
hinduismglance said
14.WAS KARAN A SHUDRA IN MAHABHARAT?WAS KARAN SOCIALLY DISCRIMINATED BECAUSE OF CASTE? NO
Queen Kunti had received a mantra from a Rishi by which she could summon any God and get a child from him. She was a young girl that time. She innocently summoned Sun (just to test the claim) and he appeared before her. She wanted him gone but bound by mantra he couldn’t leave without granting her the boon of a son. That’s how Karan was born to unwed mother. Fearing social stigma she abandoned the child in a river and he was found & raised by a charioteer(Shudra). He was a Kshatria(Soldier) by character and conduct and he later became a King. Avtar Krishna did not let him marry Princess Draupadi because she was already granted the wish of having the 5 top qualities in a husband and Karan did not have those qualities.
hinduismglance said
14.WAS KARAN A SHUDRA IN MAHABHARAT?WAS KARAN SOCIALLY DISCRIMINATED BECAUSE OF CASTE? NO
Although the case of Karna & Parshurama was totally different.
He deceived his guru into thinking he was a brahman to obtain learning.
He was caught when his thigh was stung by a wasp (which was indra in disguise who knew what all things would follow) & karna didnt make a sound as his guru was having a nap with his head on his thigh. Blood oozed out of his thigh & that woke up Parshuram who immediately guessed that Karna could not be a brahman as only a kshtriya can bear such pain and he deserved to be trained as a soldier and not an ascetic.Karan later became a king.
hinduismglance said
15.WAS EKALAVYA SOCIALLY DISCREMINATED BY DRON BECAUSE HE WAS A SHUDRA?
Ekalavya was never a Shudra and Shudras were very well respected in Mahabharata and Ramayana.
There are some popular misconceptions about some characters in Mahabharat. One such story deals with Ekalavya and Guru Dron. The misconception perpetuated is that Guru Dron asked the right thumb of Ekalavya because the latter belonged to a lower caste/class.
This is incorrect as per sanskrit Mahabharat (Nilkanth copy) as well as Bhandarkar Institute reseached copy. The Bhandarkar Institute copy was the main source for the Mahabharat TV series and it gives the correct reason (as does the series).
Ekalavya was a Nishad. His father, the leader (King) of Nishads,was in the employ of Jarasandh (king of Magadh), as one of the army commanders. Jarasandh was an adversary of the Kuru Hastinapur Kingdom (where Pandu and Dhritarashtra ruled). Ekalavya ’snooped’ to learn Guru Dron’s vidya. Dron foresaw that Ekalavya may use this knowledge against Dron’s employer, King of Hastinapur and hence asked the right thumb as Guru DakshiNa and thus denied the advantage Ekalavya had gained. Later on Ekalavya did work as a confidant of Jarasandh. Specifically, at the time of Rukmini Swayamvar, Ekalavya was the messenger between Shishupal and Rukmini’s father Bhishmak, at Jarasandh’s behest.
C . L . CHUMBER said
THE RAPIST , RACIST , AND FASCIST BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DIED . BUT THEIR EVIL FOLLOWERS ARE ALIVE TO WORSHIP AND GLORIFY !!!!!”
Sukra Charya said
August 1, 2009 @ 10:23 am
“THE RAPIST , RACIST , AND FASCIST BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THEIR INCARNATIONS DIED ALSO !!!!!”
If that be the case, why are you bringing it into the discussion it again and again? Write about Periyar instead.
ToAStupidFellow said
First prove that brahma and vishnu were rapists. Provide the exact verses that mention it. Don’t allege without providing proof.
People consider you mad because you scream and shout the same things again and again without any proof – exactly like mad men on the streets do.
C . L . CHUMBER said
DEAR KUMARPUSHAP JI ,
I AM ASHTONISHED TO READ THE THREE POITS FROM YOUR WRITE UP . WILL YOU PLEASE ENLIGHT IN DETAILS ON THESE POINTS ? THANKS .
1 . Dalai Lama is paid agent of America and he is getting 80 millions dollar per year from America.
2 . Dalai Lama is propagating the Brahminism In India.
3 Dalai Lama and their forefather had thrown out from Ashoka kingdom because they were pactising the Brahminism.
Kumarpushp said
July 29, 2009 @ 10:05 pm
Tibet is integral parts of china and Dalai Lama is paid agent of America and he is getting 80 millions dollar per year from America.Dalai Lama is propagating the Brahminism In India. it is better to throw him to china with their three hundred thosands fat cats who are living in India.Dalai Lama and their forefather had thrown out from Ashoka kingdom because they were pactising the Brahminism.time has come we should throw the traitor of Buddhism from India as early as possible save the Buddhism from kal Chakra and other cow shits .
ANITA GUPTA said
THERE WAS NO MANTRA OF ANY RISHI . KUNTI WAS RAPED BY SUN . WHEN ” She wanted him gone but bound by mantra he couldn’t leave without granting her the boon of a son. ” , WHY SUN RAPED WITH A ” young ” AND ” innocent ” girl ?
KUNTI WAS A CHARACTERLESS AND SHE” Fearing social stigma she abandoned the child in a river ” KILL HIM .
DURYODAN MADE KARAN A KING OF ANG DESH .
KARISHAN WAS ANTI -WOMEN , VAISH VARNA AND SHUDRA VARNA . HE MADE DAROPATI THE WIFE OF FIVE PERSONS .
ACTUALLY , KARAN WAS NEITHER THE SON OF SUN NOR OF KUNTI . HE WAS A SHUDRA .
WE CONDEMN THE CHARACTER ASSASINATION OF KARAN .
hinduismglance said
August 4, 2009 @ 8:33 am
14.WAS KARAN A SHUDRA IN MAHABHARAT?WAS KARAN SOCIALLY DISCRIMINATED BECAUSE OF CASTE? NO
Queen Kunti had received a mantra from a Rishi by which she could summon any God and get a child from him. She was a young girl that time. She innocently summoned Sun (just to test the claim) and he appeared before her. She wanted him gone but bound by mantra he couldn’t leave without granting her the boon of a son. That’s how Karan was born to unwed mother. Fearing social stigma she abandoned the child in a river and he was found & raised by a charioteer(Shudra). He was a Kshatria(Soldier) by character and conduct and he later became a King. Avtar Krishna did not let him marry Princess Draupadi because she was already granted the wish of having the 5 top qualities in a husband and Karan did not have those qualities.
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ToAStupidFellow said
Chumber @ Anita Gupta,
How do you know Kunti was raped? Where is is mentioned? Did you see it happenning?
Admit it, you are a stupid man with a mental problem obsessed with rape.
ANITA GUPTA said
THERE WAS NO EDUCATION POLICY TO CUT OFF THE THUMB OF A STUDENT TO RECOVER THE TUTION FEE / GURU DAKSHNA .
THERE IS NO SUCH ANOTHER EXAMPLE . IT WAS A PLOT TO HANDICAP EKVLAYA . IT WAS A SHAMEFUL ACT .
hinduismglance said
August 4, 2009 @ 8:35 am
15.WAS EKALAVYA SOCIALLY DISCREMINATED BY DRON BECAUSE HE WAS A SHUDRA?
Ekalavya was never a Shudra and Shudras were very well respected in Mahabharata and Ramayana.
kumarpushp said
Dear Sukracharya,you hindus even donot know the population of tibet and talking about tibet.Dalai lama is a paid agent of America and getting 80 million dollar per year from America.Hindus are the born enemy of dalits who are killing and raping innocent dalits in india.When dalai lama will die his tibet will go with him.hindu led forces are very weak to fight against the china.175 million dalits will support china on tibet issues .dalits have been left hindus and their hindu led government ,we are moving inch by inch towards the self determination in india whether you hindus like it or not.
Sukra Charya said
Dear kumarpushp,
One does not have to know the population of Tibet to talk about Tibet. We WILL make Tibet free. Its only a question of time. China is already ‘has-been’.
Its quite that YOU will support Chinese. We know that. But rest guaranteed, that the other dalits will not join you. You cannot even win elections on that argument – what makes you think that the rest of the dalits will follow you? Heck, dalits do not support you even on this forum!!
KUMARPUSHP said
We donot require any barbaric hindus to support ,for argument sake if dalits were supporting to your RSS and their umblical links then BJp would have been ruling in delhi.175 million dalits are waiting for real time to put the last nail in coffins of hinduism and their hindu led government.
C . L . CHUMBER said
RAPISTS BRAHMA AND VISHANU AND THE VICTIMS DIED THOUSANDS YEARS AGO .
OTHERWISE THE DOCTORS MUST ISSSUE THE MEDICAL REPORTS OF BOTH RAPISTS .
I HAD SUPPLIED NUMERIOUS TIMES THE REFERENCES OF THE HINDU SCRIPTURE IN THIS BLOG .
ToAStupidFellow said
August 6, 2009 @ 1:48 am
First prove that brahma and vishnu were rapists. Provide the exact verses that mention it. Don’t allege without providing proof.
People consider you mad because you scream and shout the same things again and again without any proof – exactly like mad men on the streets do.
ToAStupidFellow said
Mr.Idiot,
Come to court and prove your allegations about Brahma and Vishnu. Otherwise call yourself a brain-dead man repeating the same crappy baseless lies.
C . L . CHUMBER said
FIRST OF ALL , WE MUST LIBERATE OUR COUNTRY FROM THE FORIEGNER ARYANS !!!!!
THE BODH GAYA TEMPLE WILL BE LIBERATED AUTOMATICALLY .
Kumarpushp said
August 7, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
dalits will librate the bodh gaya temple first from hindu then throw the Mr dalai lama from India.Dalit are not cowerdic ,they will hit the hindus on their umblicus and we will hit the hindu led government also when time come.
C . L . CHUMBER said
TO-DAY`S THE HINDUSTAN TIMES , CHANDIGARH ENDORSES MR. RUNOKO RASHIDI`S VIEWS !!!!!
THE HEADLINES OF THIS ARCHEOLOGICAL FINDINGS NEWS IS ” JHARKHAND MUNDAS MAY BE ANCESTORS OF OZ ABORIGINES .” !!!!!
PLEASE READ THE LINK http://epaper.hindustantimes.com//artMailDisp.aspx?article=11_08_2009_007_002&typ=1&pub=722
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INTRODUCTION TO THE FRAUD HISTORIAN RUNOKO RASHIDI
Runoko Rashidi is a late-20th c.Black muslim historian, researcher, writer, world traveler, and public lecturer based in Los Angeles.Runoko Rashidi focuses on the African presence globally and what he claims to be the African foundations of world civilizations. He is particularly drawn to the African presence in Asia, Australia, and the Pacific Islands, and has coordinated historic educational group tours to India,Aboriginal Australia, the Fiji Islands and Southeast Asia as well as Egypt and Brazil. His academic focus is in “the Black foundations of world civilizations”. He has conducted research into the Black presence in Asia.He addressed the poor people in India with his hate speech based on color discrimination which is not in Indian society.His main agenda seemed to divide the people and bring about hatred in them.He heads the new African propoganda of establishing that all religions were started by the blacks.Indian Embassy should be very careful in providing VISA to anti-India racist people whose motive is to encourage mass terrorism.
FALSE CLAIMS BY RUNAKO RASHIDI
Rashidi claims that the Dravidians and Siddi of ancient India are part of the black race .He claims that until 3500 years ago the Dravidians had a technologically advanced society that was well-known in the ancient world. These black Dravidians portrayed their gods as blacks and portrayed evil beings with white skin. He claims the Aryans were “barbarian” whites who enslaved the indigenous black Dravidians in the caste system after they stole the advanced technology of the Dravidians 3500 years ago.
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C . L . CHUMBER said
MR. ” StupidFellow ” !
PLEASE DO NOT CREATE NUISANCE . ANY ONE WHO WROTE RATIONALY IN THIS BLOG , YOU PEOPLE ABUSE AND BLAME ON HIM / HER BASELESSELY .
ANITA GUPTA IS NOT KNOWN TO ME BUT I APPRECIATE HER VIEWS . YOU SHOULD REPLY HER .
SHE MIGHT ANALYZED ON THIS STATEMENT ” She ( KUNTI ) wanted him gone but bound by mantra he couldn’t leave without granting her the boon of a son. That’s how Karan was born to unwed mother. ”
OUR LAW DO NOT PERMIT EVEN AN HUSBAND TO RAPE HER WIFE . WHEN KUNTI WAS NOT WILLING , WHY DID THE SO CALLED GOD SUN RAPED KUNTI ?
NOW YOU MR.” A Stupid ellow ” Admit it, you are a stupid man with a mental problem obsessed with rape.”
ToAStupidFellow said
August 6, 2009 @ 11:53 am
Chumber @ Anita Gupta,
How do you know Kunti was raped? Where is is mentioned? Did you see it happenning?
Admit it, you are a stupid man with a mental problem obsessed with rape.
hh said
Stupid Chumber,
I will not reply to your cowardice anymore. I will talk to you only in court.
Just GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW.
C . L . CHUMBER said
Please ad the sub title of the news :
” NEW STUDY finds genetic link between the settlers , traces origin to African migrants – the first humans to walk the earth . ”
C . L . CHUMBER said
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
August 11, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
C.L.CHUMBER said
MR. JASWANT SINGH BJP STALWART EXPRESSED HIS BOLD VIEWS AT THE RELEASING CEREMONY OF HIS BOOK “Jinnah — India, Partition, Independence” .
Jinnah was great, we demonised him: Jaswant
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, August 16
Senior BJP leader and former foreign and finance minister Jaswant Singh has called Pakistan’s founder Mohammad Ali Jinnah a great Indian who “was demonised by India” and admitted that he has been greatly attracted to (and) drawn to Jinnah’s personality.
Jaswant Singh, whose book “Jinnah — India, Partition, Independence” will be released tomorrow, also said Indian Muslims are treated as aliens. In an exclusive interview to CNN- IBN, Jaswant Singh, who is at present a BJP MP from Darjeeling in West Bengal, spoke about the founder of Pakistan, India’s first Prime Minister Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and a host of other issues.
“Gandhi himself called Jinnah a great Indian. Why don’t we recognise that? Why don’t we see (and try to understand) why he called him that, Jaswant Singh said when asked by Karan Thapar in the interview whether he viewed Jinnah as a great man. In another startling claim, Jaswant Singh said the view held by many in India that Jinnah hated Hindus was a mistake. He claimed that Indian leaders had not only misunderstood Jinnah but made a demon out of him. According to him the demonisation of Jinnah was a direct result of the trauma of the Partition.
“I was attracted by the personality which has resulted in a book. If I was not drawn to the personality I wouldn’t have written the book. His is an intricate, complex personality, of great character, determination,” said Jaswant Singh. When asked if Jinnah was a nationalist, Jaswant Singh replied, “Oh, yes. He fought the British for an independent India but also fought resolutely and relentlessly for the interest of the Muslims of India … the acme of his nationalistic achievements was the 1916 Lucknow Pact of Hindu-Muslim unity.
Jaswant Singh said there was a lot in Jinnah’s character that he personally admired, in particular the fact that Jinnah was a self-made man who had carved a position for himself in a metropolitan city like Bombay without seeking help or support from anyone else. “I admire certain aspects of his personality. His determination and the will to rise. He was a self-made man. Mahatma Gandhi was the son of a diwan. All these (people) — Nehru and others — were born to wealth and position. Jinnah created for himself a position. He was so poor he had to walk to work.”
Asked if the notion held by many in India that Jinnah hated Hindus was wrong, Jaswant Singh said: “Totally wrong… his principal disagreement was with the Congress Party, he had no problems whatsoever with Hindus.” Jaswant Singh said India had not only misunderstood Jinnah but made a demon out of him. He suggested that this was a direct result of the trauma of the Partition. “I think we have misunderstood him because we needed to create a demon … we needed a demon because in the 20th century the most telling event in the subcontinent was the Partition.” Jaswant Singh said if the Congress could have accepted a decentralised federal country “then, in that event, a united India was ours to attain”.
The problem, he added, was Jawaharlal Nehru’s highly centralised polity. “Nehru believed in a highly centralised policy. That’s what he wanted India to be. Jinnah wanted a federal polity. That even Gandhi accepted. Nehru didn’t. Consistently, he stood in the way of a federal India until 1947 when it became a partitioned India.” The senior BJP leader strongly contested the popular Indian view that Jinnah was the villain of the Partition or the man principally responsible for it. This view is wrong, he said. “It is not borne out of facts… we need to correct it.”
Speaking about Jinnah’s call for Pakistan, Jaswant Singh said from his five-year-long research into the subject he believed that this was a negotiating tactic to obtain space for Muslims in a reassuring system where they wouldn’t be dominated by the Hindu majority. When pointedly asked if the final decisions had been taken by Mahatma Gandhi, Rajaji or Azad — rather than Nehru — a united India would have been attained, the BJP leader replied: “Yes, I believe so. We could have (attained a united India).” Jaswant Singh explained that Jinnah had two fears of Gandhi’s style of mass politics. “First, if mass movement was introduced into India than the minorities in India could be threatened and we could have Hindu-Muslim riots as a consequence. Second, this would result in bringing religion into Indian politics and he (Jinnah) didn’t want that.”
Jaswant Singh also said that at the end of their lives both Jinnah and Gandhi died failed men. Asked if he looked upon both as failures, he replied: “Yes, I am afraid I have to say that … I cannot treat this (the outcome of their lives) as a success either by Gandhi or Jinnah … the Partition of India and the Hindu-Muslim divide cannot really be called Gandhiji’s great success … Jinnah got a moth-eaten Pakistan but the philosophy that Muslims are a separate nation was completely rejected within years of Pakistan coming into being.”
Jaswant Singh also spoke about Indian Muslims who, he said, had paid the price of the Partition. In a particularly outspoken answer, he said India treats them as aliens. “Look into the eyes of the Muslims that live in India and if you truly see the pain with which they live, to which land do they belong? We treat them as aliens … without doubt Muslims have paid the price of the Partition. They could have been significantly stronger in a united India … of course Pakistan and Bangladesh won’t like what I am saying. Jaswant Singh also pointedly added: “Every Muslim that lives in India is a loyal Indian and we must treat them as so.”
Courtesy : http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090817/main6.htm
C.L.CHUMBER said
MR. HAPPY HINDU !
GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT YOU ARE NOT A STUPID PERSON ?
THE ABUSERS ARE ALWAYS MENTALLY SICK PERSON !
hh said
August 18, 2009 @ 6:44 am
Stupid Chumber,
I will not reply to your cowardice anymore. I will talk to you only in court.
Just GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW.
hh said
Chumber
If you are not a stupid khalistan sponsored khaali-sthani loony shouting nonsense all the time, then you GO AND FILE A CASE RIGHT NOW. Let the court decide if you are a mental retard or not. Don’t waste time by posting trash.
Or provide your personal identifiers (voter id number, PAN number, TADA case file number, full names of your family members) – and anything else that can help establish your identity in court, then yes we will file a case against you.
You are such a coward that you cannot even file a case LOL
hh said
Stop your useless shouting. You will get “proof” in court.
Either you file a case or provide your TADA case number with personal identifiers to allow us to file a case. A coward like you can claim anything to escape anytime.
C.L.CHUMBER said
DEMOLISHING MUMBAI`S LALJIPADA SLUM FOR A RAIL PROJECT WILL MEAN DESTROYING THE LIVELIHOODS OF SOME 40,000 PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING THERE .
URBAN DEVELOPMENT
Derailing lives
LYLA BAVADAM
Demolishing Mumbai’s Laljipada slum for a rail project will mean destroying the livelihoods of some 40,000 people living and working there.
The 40-year-old Laljipada slum on the banks of the Poisar river. It has six colonies spread over 48 hectares.
LAST September, when H.M. Chandrashekar, a resident of the Laljipada slum in the north Mumbai suburb of Kandivili, curiously asked a man with surveying equipment what he was doing outside his house, he was in for a rude shock. “My blood ran cold when he told me that a Metro railcar shed yard was going to be built at this very spot,” he recalled. Chandrashekar, a cable operator, said his first thoughts were of the future. “Where will we move to? What will happen to our businesses? We have been here for so long. Our lives and our jobs are intertwined. Demolish Laljipada and you will have some 30,000 unemployed people,” he said.
Laljipada’s residents are largely entrepreneurs running cottage industries from their homes that are as small as 100 square feet. Primarily migrants from North India, they contradict the popular perception that migrants take away jobs from the local population. The 20,000 families here are self-employed; they make products that feed into larger businesses such as imitation jewellery, recycled plastic and paper waste, or operate small tailoring or bakery units. With each family contributing in some way or the other to the final finished product, all the families here are dependent on each other for their livelihood.
As Chandrashekar said, “finding another means of livelihood will be more difficult than finding another place to live”.
The nearly 40-year-old Laljipada slum comprises six colonies spread over 120 acres (1 acre = 0.4 hectare). The Mumbai Metropolitan Regional Development Authority’s (MMRDA) Rs.45,000-crore Metro Rail project plans to build a railcar depot on the site of Laljipada. The residents say they are not against the Metro project or against the railcar depot; they oppose only the large-scale evictions in the name of development.
The Maharashtra Regional Town Planning Act states that projects have to be done in consultation with the affected people. It was only after a protest was organised by the Ghar Bachao-Ghar Banao Andolan, an activist organisation that takes up cudgels against urban evictions, that a public hearing was held in which slum-dwellers and MMRDA officials interacted.
PICTURES: VIVEK BENDRE
Slum-dweller Kakubhai Koddur’s children join the parents in decorating imitation jewellery to supplement the family income.
The aim of the National Rehabilitation and Resettlement Policy, 2007, is to “minimise displacement and to promote, as far as possible, non-displacing or least displacing alternatives”. With this in mind, the activists suggested that the car shed be shifted to another vacant plot, but MMRDA officials said their technical feasibility studies had found the suggested site unsatisfactory. When the activists asked to see the report, it was not forthcoming.
There are more reasons to doubt the accuracy of the studies and assessment reports. The initial plan was to take over the entire area for the depot. Following protests, the MMRDA said that only 50 to 60 acres were required, and after the public hearing, it brought it down to 12 to 15 acres. This has made the slum residents wary since acquisitions of vast tracts of land in the area in the recent past ostensibly for public purposes turned out to be cases of land grab by politicians.
The Babrekar Nagar slum, which adjoined Laljipada, was demolished about 13 years ago and on it now stand an engineering college promoted by Bharatiya Janata Party leader Gopinath Munde and a government hospital. There is also a large vacant plot with a board proclaiming it to be the property of the Manjra Charitable Trust, set up by former Congress Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh. Fearing that Laljipada may go the same way, activists made a request for the details of the car shed project via the Right to Information Act but it was rejected on the grounds that their disclosure would be a threat to national security.
Laljipada is on the banks of the Poisar river, which, until the Mumbai floods of 2005, was considered a nullah, or drain. Recent environmental awareness campaigns and safety concerns have reinstated it as a river. So when the residents heard that the car depot was to be built across the river, they were worried about its environmental impact. It is not yet known whether “across the river” means building an elevated depot or just filling in the river.
The history of relief and rehabilitation (R&R) in the country shows that no displaced community has been shifted en masse so far, though this is a requirement of good R&R. Resettlement is invariably a piecemeal effort that shreds the social and economic fabric.
Laljipada’s residents have been told that they will be resettled, but they have not got any details of the R&R package. The slum stands on land belonging to the Collectorate of Mumbai. Many of the families have lived there for nearly 40 years; about 300 families actually have land allotment letters because they were shifted to Laljipada in 2000 from the surroundings of the Mumbai airport. If Laljipada is demolished, it will mean multiple displacement for these families.
Simpreet Singh of the Ghar Bachao-Ghar Banao Andolan says, “Slums are organic in nature. For survival reasons, everything and everyone is dependent on the other. For this reason, it is also a very fragile society. Small changes can be absorbed, but to break up the mass is as good as killing it because of the very nature of interdependency. All the cottage industries are within the neighbourhood and feed each other.”
Dineshbhai buys old plastic items. At his workshop in Laljipada, he breaks it down, powders it and sells it to Ram Prajapati, who buys it for his small plastic moulding business.
Ramzan Ali, who came to Mumbai from Uttar Pradesh 25 years ago, buys scrap paper from printing presses in the city. He and his family then sort the white strips from the coloured ones and send the sorted bundles to paper factories in Gujarat.
In another part of the slum, Shambhunath Patel purchases recycled metal bars from Sajjan Bagwan. He melts them in his workshop-cum-home to make bangles, earrings, necklaces and rings. These dull, lead-grey items will then be sent to his neighbour Basant Chauhan for electroplating. When they emerge as shiny pieces of jewellery, they are sent to Kakubhai Koddur’s family.
Koddur’s children, after finishing their schoolwork, sit with their mother late into the night adorning the bangles, necklaces and rings with coloured stones and glass. The finished items of imitation jewellery and plastic accessories go to Kausalya Devi, who runs a vegetable shop. In between selling vegetables, she and her son deftly stack the items in cardboard boxes, while her daughter does some tailoring work.
In this way, more than 40,000 people have created jobs for themselves. About 24,000 of them are engaged in sorting and recycling plastics, glass, metal and paper waste, while 5,500 work in small bakeries within the slum. And 15,000 women are employed in the imitation jewellery business. Tailoring and grocery stores also thrive here.
Since this is all in the informal sector, it is difficult to quantify the business done but it is believed that the paper and metal recycling work carried out in Laljipada is more than that in Dharavi, a slum five times bigger than Laljipada in size and with three times its population. “Laljipada is like assembly line production… it is like a factory but not as destructive and space-consuming as a factory because here people live and work in the same space,” says Simpreet Singh.
Laljipada’s residents have created their own network for earning a living. “We are not beggars or bootleggers, nor are we engaged in any anti-social activity. We do not get anything from the state. We are self-employed,” said Keshav Gupta, who has a small, hand-operated plastic moulding unit. “If the Metro yard is built over our homes, it is not just structures they will be breaking. It will be our lives.”
If Laljipada is demolished and its community broken up, then it will be one more victim of the well-worn, poverty-creating formula that is going on in some other parts of the country in the name of development.
Courtesy : http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20090911261804600.htm
C.L.CHUMBER said
WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE RSS TO CAPTURE THE BJP`S HQ ?
MR. SHOURIE DO NOT KNOW THAT THE BJP IS A NATIONAL AND MAIN OPPOSITION PARTY GOVERNED BY THE ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA`S RULES AND REGULATIONS .
RSS` IDEOLOGUE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF ARYAN HITLER !!!!!
C.L.CHUMBER said
RSS SHOULD BOMBARD BJP HQ AND TAKE OVER LEADERSHIP : SHOURIE
Courtesy : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/RSS-should-bombard-BJP-hq-and-take-over-leadership-Shourie/articleshow/4930531.cms
C.L.CHUMBER said
PROF. DITT SINGH GIANI ( 1850-1901 ) WAS A DALIT INTELLECTUAL WHO WROTE ABOUT FOUR DOZEN BOOKS IN PUNJABI .
HE DEFEATED SWAMI DAYA NAND IN DIALOGUE ON VEDAS ETC.
HE WROTE A BOOK ” SATYARTH PARKASH DAMB VIDARAN ” MEANS SATYARTH PARKASH : EXPOSED .
HE WAS THE RE-FOUNDER OF THE SIKHISM IN MODERN TIMES . BUT HIS SON DR, BALDEV SINGH SHER CONVERTED TO CHRITIANITY DUE TO UNTOUCHABILITY IN THE SIKH SOCIETY !!!!!
GOVT, SGPC FORGET GIANI DITT SINGH
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/ArticleImage.aspx?article=07_09_2009_004_012&mode=1
C.L.CHUMBER said
THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR EVER TO THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
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TO THE MEMBERS OF THE HAPPY HINDU NON-SENSE VAIDIK ABUSER CLUB !
I AS WELL AS THE https://dalitnation.wordpress.com ARE READY TO PUT OVER CASE IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT .
YOU ARE THREATENING US FOR THE LAST ONE YEAR BUT YOU NEVER FILED CASE IN THE COURT .
YOU SO MANY TIMES WROTE THAT YOU DID NOT HONOUR THE SUPREME COURT`S JUDGEMENT ON ” IDIOT ” .
FIRST OF ALL , THE COURT WILL ASK YOU AND WILL SEND YOU IN THE JAIL FOR DISOBEYING THE SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT .
PLEASE DO NOT BARK BY ABUSING US FREEQUENTLY . WHENEVER WE WILL MEET IN THE COURT PREMISES , THE PEOPLE WILL DEFACE YOU AS YOU WROTE THAT VALMIKI , AMBEDKAR , KANSHI RAM AND CHUMBER`S FATHER WERE RAPISTS WITHOUT ANY PROOF .
WE ARE READY FOR LEGAL BATTLE !
hh said
You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.
You deal with Sanjam’s words seperately. Do not link me with him.
Provide the following details, we will file a case :
1) Your full name
2) Your date of birth
3) Voter’id card number
4) PAN number
5) Residential address
6) Occupation and office address
7) Names of family members
8 ) Your annual income tax returns and proof of funding sources.
Just provide the details instead of talking, deviating and misleading. The rest will be handled in court.
You sure cannot deny your khalistan links. Talk all that you want to talk in court. You will certainly be tried under TADA charges and sent to jail.
C.L.CHUMBER said
REVERED JOGINDER NATH MANDAL WAS PAKISTAN`S FIRST EVER LAW AND LABOUR MINISTER OF PAKISTAN . BEFORE THIS BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA WAS OFFERED THE PRESIDENTSHIP OF PAKISTAN IF HE VOTED FOR PAKISTAN BUT HE OPTED FOR INDIA . LATE MR. JOGINDER NATH MANDAL OPTED FOR PAKISTANON THE ADVISE OF DR. AMBEDKAR . MR. O.P.KAPIL , PRINCIPAL , ( MASTER GURBANTA SINGH )JANTA COLLEGE , KARTAR PUR DISTT. JALANDHAR ( PUNJAB ) PUBLISHED A SOUVNIR ON MASTER GURBANTA SINGH`S 75TH BIRTH ANNIVERSARY . IN THIS SOUVENIR A LETTER OF MR. N. SHIVRAJ , PRESIDENT , THE SCHEDULED CASTES FEDERERATION DATED NEW DELHI , 20TH MARCH , 1946 WAS PUBLISHED AS BELOW :
SECRET
DEAR MR. GURBANTA SINGH ,
I AM GLAD TO INFORM YOU THAT A SETTELMENT HAS BEEN ARRIVED AT BETWEEN THE MUSLIM LEAGUE AND THE SCHEDULED CASTES FEDERATION WITH REGARD TO THE PUNJAB LEGISLATURE .THE MUSLIM LEAGUE IS PREPARED TO OFFER TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SCHEDULED CASTES ONE POST OF MINISTER AND ONE POST OF PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY IF THE THE MEMBERS OF THE SCHEDULED CASTE FORM A COALITION WITH THE MUSLIM LEAGUE.
IN VIEW OF THE ABOVE , I REQUEST YOU AND OTHERS WHO ARE NOT IN THE CONGRESS TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY STEPS TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES INTO A BLOCK AND WORK AND VOTE WITH THE LEAGUE .
I HAVE CONSULTED THE HON`BLE DR. B.R. AMBEDKAR AND THIS HAS HIS COMPLETE APPROVAL .
YOURS SINCERELY ,
SD/- N. SHIVRAJ
20-3-46
MR. GURBANTA SINGH , M.L.A. ( PUNJAB ) ,
FALETES HOTEL , LAHORE .
BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA IN HIS SERIAL WISE AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN THE RAVIDASS PATRIKA ( PUNJABI WEEKLY ) , 615-L , MODEL TOWN , JALANDHAR CITY , PUNJAB DATED 20TH SEPT. , 1970 AND REPUBLISHED IN ITS ISSUE DATED 29TH JANUARY , 2008 ( UNDER SUB TITLE – ” POONA PACT 1932 – GANDHI AND DR. AMBEDKAR PACT ) AS BELOW :
” DURING THIS PERIOD , THERE WERE RUMOURS OF PAKISTAN AND DR. AMBEDKAR SENT SOME PUNJABI YOUNGSTERS WORKING AT DELHI TO US TO URGE THAT THE ADI-DHARAM MANDAL MUST CASTE VOTE FOR PAKISTAN . THE PUNJAB`S 10-15 TOP MOST MUSLIM OFFICERS ALONG WITH CHOWDHURY SUNDER DASS , PRESIDENT , MANDAL`S MANAGING COMMITTEE , MASTER GURBANTA SINGH AND 5-6 OTHER PROMINENT ADI-DHARAMIS IN 8 CARS AND JEEPS REACHED ( MY VILLAGE ) MUGGOWAL . THEY WERE WEL COMED WITH TEA IN TUMBLERS . BEFORE TAKING TEA , CHOWDHURY SUNDER DASS TOLD THE MESSAGE THAT PAKISTAN OFFERED 50 MURABBAS LAND , RS. 50,000 CASH AND TWO MINISTRIES . WE HAD TO CASTE VOTE FOR PAKISTAN . I FLATELY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THESE ALLUREMENTS AND THEY LEFT OUR HOME WITHOUT TAKING TEA ! DR. AMBEDKAR WAS ANNOYED ON OUR REFUSAL ( TO CASTE VOTE FOR PAKISTAN ) . AFTER PAKISTAN`S PARTITION , I ALONG WITH ( MASTER ) GURBANTA SINGH AND PREM SINGH ( M.L.A. FROM GURGAON , NOW IN HARYANA STATE ) WENT TO MET DR, AMBEDKAR AT DELHI . WE REACHED AT HIS KOTHI . WE WROTE OUR NAMES ON A SLIP AND HANDED OVER IT TO DR. AMBEDKAR`S P.A. TO HAND OVER HIM AS WE WANTED TO MEET HIM . DR. AMBEDKAR READ OUR NAMES AND CALLED US STUPIDS AND FOOLS AS WE DID NOT VOTE FOR PAKISTAN . AT THIS CHOWDHURY PREM SINGH GOT ANGER AND HE ABUSED DR. AMBEDKAR . HE BLAMED DR. AMBEDKAR THAT THAY WILL NOT LET HIM SALE PUNJAB“S UNTOUCHABLES FOR RS. TWO LACS TO JINNAH . DR. AMBEDKAR RETURNED IN HIS KOTHI AND WE RETURNED PUNJAB . WE GOT ACCEPTED OUR ALL DEMANDS FROM THE GOVTS. ( BRITISH AND AFTER PARTITITION GOVTS. ) .”
REVERED JOGINDER NATH MANDAL ALSO BLAMED DR. AMBEDKAR THAT HE MISGUIDED BENGALI DALITS TO VOTE FOR PAKISTAN . HIS STATEMENT OF BLAMING DR. AMBEDKAR IS DULY PUBLISHED IN J.N. MANDAL`S BIOGRAPHY `S 1ST OR SECOND VOLUME WRITTEN AND PUBLISHED BY MR. MANDAL`S SON LIVING AT KOLKATTA . I MET HIM IN 1995 AT KOLKATTA AND HE NOW COMPLETED THE BIOGRAPHY IN 7 VOLUMES IN BANGLA . MR. MANDAL`S STATEMENT BLAMING DR. AMBEDKAR WILL BE PRODUCED IN ENGLISH IN NEAR FUTURE .
THIS WRITE UP IS TO ATTRACT THE RESEARCHERS TO FIND THE ROLE OF THE DALIT LEADERSHIP AT THE TIME OF PARTITION OF INDIA IN 1947 A.D. SAHIB KANSHI RAM ONCE PUBLISHED A SPECIAL ISSUE OF HIS ENGLISH MONTHLY THE OPPRESSED INDIA TO HIGHLIGHT THE SAD PLIGHT OF THE BENGALI NAMO-SHUDRA DALITS LIVING IN THE DELTA OF THE GANGA DUE TO THE WRONG DECISION OF THE DALIT LEADERSHIP AT THE TIME OF PARTITION .
THIS RESIGNATION LETTER OF REVERED J.N. MANDAL AS LAW MINISTER OF PAKISTAN AND THE RESIGNATION LETTER OF REVERED DR. B.R. AMBEDKAR AS LAW MINISTER OF INDIA SHOW THEIR DISAPPOINTMENTS WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF BOTH THE COUNTRIES . LET US DO THE COMPARATIVE STUDY IN DEPTH TO FIND THE DISEASES , CAUSES AND THEIR REMEDIES OF THE DALIT PROBLEMS . THANKS .- C.L.CHUMBER
RESIGNATION LETTER OF JOGINDER NATH MANDAL AS FIRST EVER LAW MINISTER OF PAKISTAN !
Courtesy : http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Resignation_letter_of_Jogendra_Nath_Mandal
ANITA GUPTA said
Dear Mr. Chumber ,
I appreciate you and the M/s https://dalitnation.wordpress.com for a missionary fight against the evils and evil persons in every field . I liked your daring challenge as below :
THIS CHALLENGE IS FOR EVER TO THE EVIL FOLLOWERS OF THE RAPIST , RACIST AND FASCIST GODS !!!!!
We are with you all who fight for human rights and human dignity .
HAM said
thee is no fucking DAMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY SO DONT EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.
C . L . CHUMBER said
Dear Happy Hindu ,
I also need the same information regarding your good self to file a court case against you but you never supplied . You know my address and contact number as you already admitted in this blog .
h said
September 16, 2009 @ 2:45 am
You can keep lying for all you wish. Come to court and then talk about who spoke what.
hh said
Chumber,
I am not the person filing a case against you. It is someone else.
Technically you cannot file a case against me unless you have the capacity to go to the extent of extradition and such stuff because i am not an indian citizen.
You can certainly file a case against me, after we meet in court. That way it will also be easier for you to file a case against me.
You cannot cover up your Khalistan links. It is you that needs to be tried and court and jailed.
For now, provide your details so that we can go ahead with filing a case against you. See you in court.
nauamn said
ambedkar ki maa ki choot haram khor bhangi ke aulaad.
chamaron ki fauj ki aukaat kya hai saale bhikari chamar.
ambedkar madarchod tha aur tum saaale choti jaat keere makore
Kumarpushp said
you are showing your mother cunt nothing else.All muslims ruler had like your sister cunt .
naik said
Private sector never seen caste they see ability of persons & thats why sector is good & govt sector not good.
Reliance can find gas & why govt not found till. why railway in loss & not pvt transport.
knowledge is not on cast it is as in persons mind .brain. reservation means no proper person at proper place, why sugarfactories co operative not run successfully & why so many cains remains as it is in farm. this is the reason only.
In pvt sector they took proper person at proper place only.
lundbedkar said
Dear AMBEDKARS ASSHOLES
…FOR YOUR INFORMATION …AMBEDKAR HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING –JUST AS IN CASE YOU INSECTS DO NOT KNOW THAT HE HAS NOT WRITTEN THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION …. HE HAS JUST COPIED DOWN THE BRITISH … AND ADDED SOME POINTS LIKE THE DALIT RESERVATION….AND THATS ALLL…. AND AS COMPARED TO TODAYS ERA ….IT WAS JUST AS EASY FOR A 5YR OLD KID TO COPY PASTE IT ON THE COMPUTER….OHHHH I COMPLETELY FORGOT U FUCKERS DONT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT …JUST FOR YOUR INFO:- CTRL+A THEN CTRL+C AND CTRL+V……
SO DEAR ALL THE FUCKIN PARASITES (THE DALITS)
DO NOT BOAST ABOUT YOURSELVES WHEN YOU AINT GOTTA SHIT……AND NO FREAKIN…BALLS TO STANDUP ON YOUR OWN AND DO SOMETHING WITHOUT RESERVATIONS………AHAHAHAHAHHAHA… SO ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU SUCK AND ALWAYS WILL…..
RAJU RASTOGI said
please stop doing all this and dont talk trash about each others religions….its not gonna help u guys any good….
so be kind to humanity and stop this casteism….we live in the 21st century but you guys are still living in the period of mahabharata……hahah…its damn funny…and not influencing…..
thanks
rajesh
RAJU RASTOGI said
ab bas karo..
hinduismglance said
IN SATYA YUGA(GOLDEN AGE) EVERYONE IS A BRAHMIN(DESIRELESS AND EGOLESS).EVERYONE IN ARYAVARTA HAS BRAHMIN ANCESTORS.THERE WERE AN 80 MEMBER BODY THAT DECIDED THE RESERVATION RIGHTS TO BE GIVEN BASED ON JAATI(PROFESSION).JAATI(PROFESSION) IS NOT THE CASTE(VARNA/CHARACTER) OF HINDUISM.MAHATMA GANDHI DECIDED THAT RESERVATION BE GIVEN TO COBBLERS/ARTISANS/WEAVERS ETC TO HELP THEM IN ECONOMIC GROWTH.THE SO-CALLED RICH WHO CALLED THEMSELVES DALIT IS OPRESSING THE DALITS(BELOW POVERTY LINE PEOPLE) SNATCHING THEIR RIGHTS WHILE THE COBBLER IS STILL BAKING IN THE SUN TO MAKE THE TWO ENDS MEET.
anand said
Our basic education system is flawed ,because of which good students from backward class suffer. i know many people from backward class they complain that schools in which they studied where govt schools , and many days in a month teacher would not come. if good teaching is provided to our backward class brothers and sisters up to 10 & 12 then we will see future nobel prize among them. brain capacity not dependent on caste, creed or religion. any one who has got good education up to class 12 can become any one. i like to point out our former president and eminent scientist managed to become nation changer even when he was a poor muslim fisherman. you will achieve only when you want to become. do not depend on anybody. please do not insult person like mr.NRN since he has done a good job. and there is no reservation in usa or europe , see two tamil brahmins managed to win each nobel prizes outside india because of this reason.
this is our country we have to serve it do not demand any help in doing so. reservation in education is must. but not so in private run companies whose main goal is quality and profit.
REVEIL said
OH MY GOD !
Koolslp said
Dalitnation — Really sick…..people please dont respond to this bullshit stuff..
Sniper said
why don’t you people compete with brahamins and not crib about reservations. It is obvious that you have no chance against them. Compete or die.You people are still in india because of resevations otherwise you would have been wiped long ago.
Octopole said
What’s the matter? Too dumb to compete on merit. Your whininess is beyond compare.
REVEIL said
there is lot of opression of blacks in america and other devloped nations they never gave reservations
private sector will also be spoiled like that of government ! by this
ALL FREE PEOPLE
Kunal said
For all you know, Gail Omvedt must be an agent of the USA to try and break up India with the use of caste politics. The western powers are trying this for a long time. India is only powerful if we are united. If you want a job in the private sector use ur education quota and then go for interview and if you are saying they dont call you for an interview then start your own software company and sell your products to USA. I am sure Gail will help you being an American citizen herself lol.
Adarsh said
Then is there any reservation to brahmins in the IT industry? They are there bcoz they deserve the position. And he is there to take his business forward not to promote any religion or caste.
Upper caste said
Kya dalits sirf reservation ke base par hi job pana chahte hai? Qualification ke base pe nahi? Reservation toh goverment jobs mein bhi khatam kar dena chahiye. Mehnat karo, yadi nahi toh sharm karo
kamal said
I initially thought this was under humor and satire
Krishna Madhav said
Well- If the IT companies are so bad why does dalits wanna join? you can start your own company and recruit only dalits na.
sudhakar said
narayana murthys tearing the letter is an epitome of upper castes arrogant attitude towards the dalits. this attitude should change .my humble appeal to the upper castes everyone is equal ,dalits are also people.treat them as pars.
rajesh said
Why do untouchable people want to work in body massage companies to america.. they should work with indian body massage organizations like goverment sector industries.. where they could sleep easily and do corruption with out doing work, but in private sector every one has to work and need to progress nation in phenominal way(not a dalit nation).
eddy said
@dalitnation, why you people think that you can only be selected when you will get reservation. Dont you people think this thing decreasing your image. Why private company not wanted your type of gyz. Bcause you people dont have courage to fight with us in studies. You think you can only get seats by reservation. No . you are begging from us by this activity to give you seat and job. And we people are so good thats why we are giving you that seat or job. I think you have equal rights to study . never think of those people who now also admire for untouchability . you have to make your own image. By this we all can make our country developed from developing . so you gyz have to study hard make your cast to the upper hieght. Dont depend upon the reservation , bcause it will give you job but not respect. Think about it.protest govt to decrease reservation, not to increase. Thankyou
Dalitsfree said
You idiot. You need reservation in Pvt sector also??? ha ha. Free free and free. go get a life idiot. Learn how to do hard work. Your free education, scholarship everything is given by Upper caste TAX.
Dalits are chutiya said
The person who has written is a stupid moron because this article is based on pure assumption and Keep on blaming brahmins for next 200 years. Your own community will take the advantage of reservation by keeping you backward.